Favorite BAttle

[PrinceImrahil]

Throughout all of Tolkiens works, there have been dozens and dozens of battles. Which is your favorite?

[PrinceImrahil]

I don't know if I actually have a single favorite battle. I would say the Silmarillion is my favorite battle/series of battles. That is for the most part what the entire story is. Everything that happens revolves around the war with Morgoth.

[Fatty]

I think mine has to be the Pelennor fields. Mostly because I like Theoden a lot and it is there that he rides to great renown. :-)

[Pil]

Fatty - I love you! :loveyou: We think the same mate! I LOVE the battle of the fields of pelennor...but everyone knows that already!

[Gil-Galad]

lol

My favorite battle would have to be Helms Deep and pelanor feilds. I like helms deep because it is an exiting battle, and pelanor ferilds for the same reason.

I also like the battles in the sil because of all the great tactics used.

[BlackArrow]

I'd say Pellanor Fields and Helm's Deep.

[Mirkgirl]

I like Helm's Deep in LotR

Also what comes to my mind is Battle of the fords of Isen, the one in which Theodred dies.

Anyone for the Battle of the Five Armies?

[Gil-Galad]

Nahh, but6 i like your other choices. The battle of 5 armies was good thyought, but not favorite good.

[Mirkgirl]

I don't actually like it, I was just wondering what's the opinion of the others on it.

[Orc]

My favorite is probably the Battle for the Fords of Isen from UT, mostly because it is one of the most detailed that Tolkien wrote. From the LotR proper, it's a toss up between Pelenor Fields and Helm's deep

[Pil]

I LOOOOVE the Battle on the Fields of Pelennor, cos so much happens and i could really imagine myself in it. :loveyou:

Second is Helm's Deep, but it was a tad dark for me! Good detail though! :elf:

Third is the Battle of the Five Armies - Mirkgirl! I like it! entdraught

I think it was a really good perspective to have it described from the point of view of an innocent(ish) person who wasn't quite sure what the bigger picture was. That was a really good angle for the whole of the Hobbit! :)

[Mirkgirl]

There was way too much philosophy in Battle of Five Armies and way too little action IMO.

[Gil-Galad]

I agree.

[Elentari]

My favorite is The Battle of the Pellenor Fields. There is so much going on, such strategy! Here we have men of Gondor, Prince Imrahil & the knights of Dol Amroth, King Theoden & the Rohirrim, Aragorn & his entourage, which includes Rangers of the North, Legolas, Gimli, the sons of Elrond.....WHEW! I'm out of breath reciting them all! And let's not forget the featured performers; Merry & Eowyn!
On a literary level, too, this is one of the most exciting chapters in the story. When the horns begin to blow, signalling the arrival of Rohan, I always get teary.....:king:

[Gil-Galad]

You forgot the orcs...

[Elentari]

........sorry Gil; I was concentrating on the good guys. Of course, they couldn't have had a battle without Orcs, could they? Silly me.....;-)

[PrinceImrahil]

U forgot Forlong the Fat...

[Gil-Galad]

And the fishermen...

[Elentari]

:read:
Sorry guys; guess I'd better go back and study more!:embarras:

[Gil-Galad]

he he. Not to mention the archers...

[Elentari]

Hmm.......baiting me, eh? Careful, my fine Elven-king, or I just may turn a few elven archers loose on you!
:archer: :archer: :archer: :archer: :archer: :archer: :archer:

Of course, I'm just kidding...................:elfqueen:

[Finrod Felagund]

Dwarf and Orc War, you have to love wars of vengence. Nobody rejoicing, just doing a grim job and killing all those that have wronged you and yours

[Algamesh]

I would have to go with Helm's Deep. I mean, the Pelennor Fields was an epic all-out assault with many different skirmishes and various victories and defeats. Helm's Deep had that "heroic" element ... the Forces of Good were vastly outnumbered and beaten back. Cornered with no hope in sight! But, being the stuff of legends ... Fate wove the web of victory though all of Isengard's vast strength was present. I particuarly like the quote from Theoden when they are relentlessly driven back:

"The end will not be long," said the king. "But I will not end here, taken like an old badger in a trap. Snowmane and Hasufel and the horses of my guard are in the inner court. When dawn comes, I will bid men sound the Helm's horn, and I will ride forth. Will you ride with me then, son of Arathorn? Maybe we shall cleave a road or make such an end as will be worth a song - if any be left to sing of us hereafter."

[Mirkgirl]

You put it better than I could (:

Helms deep all the way (as LotR is up)

[Illuvatar]

I'd have to go with Helm's Deep as well....

Nothing like a good head lopping competition to liven up a battle!! :flamer: Muahahaha

After that the battle of Peleor fields due to all of the multitude of campaigns and stradegies taking place.

[Gil-Galad]

Always liked helms deep. My favorite part in the two towers.

[Pil]

I still think the battle of the fields of pelennor is MUCH better! :knight:

Helm's deep was too...simple...pelennor need more thinking. :read:

However...i did enjoy leggy and gimli's little competition! roflmao

[Maedhros]

I will have to disagree with you all. My favorite battle in the world of Tolkien is the Fifth Battle that ended up with the Nirnaeth Arnoediad.
I remember that Maedhros (fav. character) was prepared to bring the War back to Morgoth. Their plan was that Maedhros would show himself in full force in the east, bringing out all of the armies of Morgoth so that his friend and High King of the Noldor would come from the west and as with a hammer and anvil grind Morgoth's armies to dust.
I remember when Turgon suddenly saw that his brother Turgon had come to war
But now a cry went up, passing up the wind from the south from vale to vale, and Elves and Men lifted their voices in wonder and joy. For unsummoned and unlocked for Turgon had opened the leaguer of Gondolin, and was come with an army ten thousand strong, with bright mail and long swords and spears like a forest. Then when Fingon heard afar the great trumpet of Turgon his brother, the shadow passed and his heart was uplifted, and he shouted aloud: 'Utúlie'n aurë! Aiya Eldalië ar Atanatári, utúlie'n aurë! The day has come! Behold, people of the Eldar and Fathers of Men, the day has come!' And all those who heard his great voice echo in the hills answered crying: 'Auta i lómë! The night is passing!'
And just for a moment I thought, can it be, will the Noldor be able to defeat Morgoth in battle.
Unfortunately, it ended up in disaster thanks to the treachery of Ulfang and my friend Fingon died, but it was a glorious battle indeed, because the Noldor tried to defeat Morgoth.

[Tar-Ancalimë]

I liked Pelennor Fields! :)

[Bonos-Girl]

can i choose the war at the end of the hobbit.......everyone else seems to be choosing lotr battles....

[Orc]

Actually, that is considered a battle rather than a war and is refered to as "The Battle of Five Armies".

Even if you considered it a war, you're more than welcome to choose it

[Bonos-Girl]

good point......hmmm.......i don't know what my favourite WAR is.

[Gil-galad Elven King]

my faveorate battles are the seige of Barad-dûr and Helms Deep

[NoldoR]

Jup, the vengance wars between the dwarfs and the orcs are damn good!! So brutal. But my favourite battle takes place on the pellenor fields. I allways get a tear in my eye and shiver when aragorn comes to their rescue!

[Narsil's weilder]

I enjoyed Helm's Deep when i read it with Legolas and Gimli's competition. The Battle of Pellenor Feids was sad, so many charecters either dying or being hurt. :elfeek:

[Voroturiön]

The Wars of Beleriand!

[Alatar]

Well i think it is Hard to Choose,
But my favourite Battle would have to be Bilbo with sting fighting the spiders in Mirkwood in the Hobbit, that was such a good battle........even if it wasn't on as large a scale as Helms Deep or the others:thumbs:

[Periantari Andruil]

Battle of Bywater! that was the last battle of the War of the Rings... that one is my favorite...

The Battle of Pelennor Fields was also cool...i like the fact that Eowyn and Merry teamed up to defeat the witch king :thumbs:

and in the Hobbit, the Battle of the Five Armies :thumbs:

[Gil Galad]

Id say itd be, the Nirneath, just the way the men of Dor-Lomin held the rear gaurd while Glorfindel and Ethecelion gaurded the flanks of the Kings retreat, and on the eastern front the Dwarves of Belegost(i think) fighting the fire drakes,and there Lord geting crushed by Glaurung, b4 the dragon feld and then the dwarves simply lifted up ther lord and walked of the feild lamenting and nobody dared go near them. the War of Wrath was very good to the way Morgoth released the Dragons and the assault of theWest was stayed and then Earendil came with the Eagles and he threw down whatshisname the black and crushed the peaks of thangordrim. i liked the battle of the five armies,i liked thorin comin out of the mountain and getin peirced with arrows but still fightin on and almost coming to the gaurd of the head orc guy, and the fili and kili(i think) rushin to defend his body but getin slain themselves. the bear man (im very bad with names) was cool the way he he ripped through the gaurd of the leader of the Orcs and broke him and then carried the body of Thorin to safety

[Legolos_Greenleaf]

My favorite is the battle of Helm's Deep. It is very descriptive and I like the way they described the fortress. It was neat when the Eorlings make their final charge!

[Nameless Eye]

IT would have to be the War of the Ring. Yup that was my favorite war witha ll those battles in it!

2nd would be Nirnaeth Arnoediad because it was the most disastrous of the Wars of Beleriand. So many people lost... mecry mecry Then there was the traitorous evil easterlings :verymad: :verymad: ! I was :) that the dwarves were not falling to glaurung! So many emotions

[Hobbit]

I agree with you on Nirnaeth Arnoediad: it's such a cool part of the story (well: not for the elves of course but for the story)

The last alliance is cool aswell: the biggest battles after the War of Wrath and cool commanders.

[Lasgalen]

From LotR, I liked best the Pelennor Fields. Eowyn slaying the witchking.

From Sil, the Fifth Battle is probably my fav, although they have so many it is hard to single one out.

[Alatar]

yeah alot of the battles in the Sil are very large and very interesting, my favourite most proberly the 5th battle aswell it was very interesting to read about

[Hobbit]

Yeah the fifth battle was great. I love the part where Gothmog battles Fingon but can't beat the elfking on his own: it shows the strenght of the Fingon and shows why he's called "the valiant"
I like the part with Húrin giving Turgon and his elves time to escape aswell.

[Gil Galad]

actually i love the lost tales version of the Fall of Gondolin is amazing, its just so well described and so heart felt

[Lasgalen]

I haven't read Lost Tales (looks like I am going to need to read it) so for me, the Fifth Battle in the Sil is my fav.

[Gil Galad]

yeh it is brilliant aswell in fact i think all the battles in the sil are amazing

[Ereinion]

I don't remember how they called it,but I really loved the battle when the Valar came to Middle Earth to fight with Morgoth...The one where Earendil came from the sky...That was something...

[Alatar]

That was the 5th battle, War of Wrath, were the Valar came to ME to attack Morgoth and were victorious (i think that was it, i need to do a re-read:thumbs: )

[Gil Galad]

wasnt that the War of Wrath???? yeh that was brilliant, when the Vanyar were ferried accroos to middle earth by the Teleri of Aqualonde and they and Foinwe drove back the hosts of Angband





sorry Alatar, i didnt see your reply b4 i wrote this

[Alatar]

it says War Of Wrath :grin:

[Ereinion]

I just checked too...The War of Wrath it was....Morgoth was overthrown and the Silmarils taken from him....

[Gil Galad]

ah but then the Sons of Feanor had to go and marr the victory with there favourite pass time.....Kinslaying

[Ereinion]

lol And after that you go and trust them to be in you bodyguard.... I don't know,I suppose they're just to devoted to their father.....I also loved the battle of the Last Alliance,where Sauron was defeated....

[Lasgalen]

Originally posted by Alatar
That was the 5th battle, War of Wrath, were the Valar came to ME to attack Morgoth and were victorious (i think that was it, i need to do a re-read:thumbs: ) Actually, the 5th battle is the Nirnaeth Arnoediad.

[Alatar]

i thought the Nirnaeth Arnoediad was part of the 5th battle:huh:

[Gil Galad]

yes it was teh way the 5th battle ended, the War of Wrath would have been the 6th battle (altho it lasted bout 90 years or something, so its more of a war then a battle)


iv got them well trained Ereinion, plus the halls of Mandos did them good

[Lasgalen]

According to my Sil index. Nirnaeth is "the name given to the ruinous fifth battle"

[Gil Galad]

unnumbered tears, it was terible, i still have scars from it

[Ereinion]

Guess you didn't have Lasgalen with you back then,did you?
So the War of Wrath would be war nomber six then.....

[Gil Galad]

no ididnt im sure he cud have healed me.

[Lasgalen]

I don't know if War of Wrath would be battle 6 or a separate war. :huh: I think it is a separate war because they call it War of Wrath as opposed to Battle of Wrath.

[Ereinion]

Good point....but why would this war be any different then the other ME wars? Because of the Valar partisipating?

[Alatar]

Because it was one of the most terrible wars and one of the largest

[Hobbit]

I thought this one was different becouse the five battles of Beleriand were the Noldor facing Morgoth and co, while in the War of Wrath it are mostly the Vanyar (with some help from the Valar and the other elves and three houses of men) that did the trick.
After the fall of Gondolin the Noldor lost their war against Morgoth and then the Vanyar are called to action in a whole new war. At least that's how I considder it.
And Alatar is definatly right about it being one of the most terrible and largest wars.

[Lasgalen]

That makes sense. Not too many Noldor left by the time of War of Wrath. And until that point, the Valar had not participated (except Ulmo giving his warnings)

[Gil Galad]

the Valar did not participate in the war of Wraith either, only Fionwe (atleast i think) represented the Maia in it

[Lasgalen]

The Valar were at the 5th battle. They are the ones who bound him with Angainor.

[Gil Galad]

i thought it was Fionwe that beat his crown into a thingy for his neck. and was it not in the first battle after the comin of the elves that he was bound in Angainor

[Lasgalen]

The same chain was used again. "then he was bound with the chain Angainor, which he had worn aforetime."

[Gil Galad]

oh yes i remember now, thank you Las

[Ereinion]

I don't know if it can be classified as a battle,but I also loved the destruction of Gondolin...It was so sad,with all the dragons and balrogs...and the betrayl even makes it ten times worse...those poor guys didn't stand a chance....

[Gil Galad]

yeh that was a brilliant battle, especially in teh book of lost tales, it almost had me in tears

[Ereinion]

I have to read that book...I'm reading the "unfinished tales" now,but there are no wars in it so far....

[Gil Galad]

no it just deals mostly with the children of turin*wipes tear from eye* and the Lay of Luthien