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Arwen Elf
July 28th,2002, 03:45 AM
Is it just me, or is there something really sweet about Elijah as Frodo? His skin, in the movie, is poreless and he has an adorable, childlike face. He looks as though he came from a Botticelli painting.;)

A! Elbereth
July 28th,2002, 05:49 AM
Fortunately, it isnt just you. Its true. And just to keep the record straight - his face is very attractive haha:loveyou: Besides he is really sweet, and I'm sure everyone on this site would agree with me when I say that no one could do a better job at playing Frodo than Elijah Wood. He is truly gifted:loveyou:

And welcome Arwen Elf! I hope you enjoy yourself here, as the rest of us do

legolaslover
July 28th,2002, 04:03 PM
Of course there is something about Elijah, he plays a perfect hobbit. He is cute.

HobbitFriend
July 28th,2002, 05:26 PM
I don't think they could have picked a more better actor then Elijah to play Frodo... It's so perfect! :loveyou:

A! Elbereth
July 28th,2002, 06:14 PM
Wow. Legolas you are now on my list.... A Legolas lover saying Elijah is cute......what next? lol just playin

TheRingBearer
August 8th,2002, 10:53 AM
Yeah Elijah is definatly the best Frodo there is or could ever be. It should be interesting to see how he makes the character change throught the films.

Rosie Gamgee
August 11th,2002, 02:20 AM
I'd have to say Ditto to all! Elijah is the perfect Frodo. But he usually is perfect in any role he plays! He is either just a really good actor, or he is a sweet person in real life! (or it could be both!;))
In any case, he scored with me!


:smooch: :stomper: :smooch: :stomper: :loveyou: :loveyou: :loveyou:


:elfqueen: **Rosie**

Sindarin
August 11th,2002, 03:18 AM
Personally, Frodo is the ultimate LOTR protagonist.

Elijah did an absolutely fantastic job at portraying the heroic Hobbit. :thumbs:

As far as living in a Middle Earth fantasy, Frodo is the foremost loyal and true friend of every LOTR fan.

A! Elbereth
August 11th,2002, 03:22 AM
Ahhhh Frodo Baggins... How do I love thee? Let me count the ways....

:elfeek: WHOOPS! :blush: didn't know anyone was paying attention!....hehe

Gowpon
August 12th,2002, 08:48 PM
roflmao roflmao roflmao ;) ;) :p lol :) :grin: lol :p roflmao :blush: :grin: :) ;) lol

A! Elbereth
August 12th,2002, 08:53 PM
Well, at least someone enjoyed my Frodo version of Shakespeare!

Like the smileys, Gowpon? lol

A! Elbereth
August 14th,2002, 11:07 PM
Swoon here lol


I just LOOOOOOOOVE FRODO! LOVE THOSE EYES! LOVE THAT CUTE SMILE! (too bad I only see it in the beginning) OoOoOoO The eyes! The voice! yummy! :loveyou:

Isn't he great!?!? :loveyou::smooch::loveyou::smooch::loveyou:

Nessa
August 14th,2002, 11:59 PM
You've basicly said it all, so I agree. ;)

Pil
August 15th,2002, 11:44 AM
DEAR GOD....NOT ANOTHER FRODO SWOON FEST!!!!!!!!!!!! :o

(IT'S GOOD IN MODERATION BUT MY HEAD CAN'T TAKE ANY MORE! :huh::()

Nessa
August 16th,2002, 12:19 AM
*shoos Pil off to the Merry thread*

Leave it to the pros, dear. ;)

Frodo is perhaps the most lovely hobbit in existance. Dark curls..... porcelain skin..... blue eyes.....

*collapses*

Sindarin
August 16th,2002, 02:13 AM
lol roflmao

Sindarin
August 16th,2002, 02:16 AM
Although I don't love Frodo, I do think he's a really cool guy.
:cool:

Pil
August 16th,2002, 12:56 PM
:cool:

*looks angrily at nessa* I WILL NOT BE SHOOED! :battle:

I'm just having to spread out my afection over many threads...so much to keep up with! I agree though...his skin IS very porcelain....do u reckon it's really like that or was most of it makeup? :huh: :loveyou:

A! Elbereth
August 16th,2002, 06:04 PM
hmmm Maybe I should go off to your Merry thread and beg God to send it away hmmm? I think that's what Nessa was trying to point out lol...

mmm Frodo... the essence of LOTR.... blueness......:loveyou:

*drifts off* :loveyou:

Nessa
August 16th,2002, 10:47 PM
Originally posted by Pil
:cool:

*looks angrily at nessa* I WILL NOT BE SHOOED! :battle:

..his skin IS very porcelain....do u reckon it's really like that or was most of it makeup? :huh: :loveyou:

Just kidding around, Pil! lol I'll take you up on that sword fight, though! :battle: ;)

Well, he defiantely wore make-up, but I don't think he wore all that much as his skin usually looks like that.... I have another reason to think he didn't have too much heavy make-up but I don't think I shall bring it up here as it is a swoon threas and people might get upset if I pointed out a flaw..............

A! Elbereth
August 16th,2002, 10:48 PM
Its ok Nessa, I'm sure I've heard worse things on another board I chat at. Do tell, and if not, PM me and tell me :)

Wilwarin
August 17th,2002, 08:29 PM
Well, I guess I can't say anything more than what you guys have already! But I agree with all of you on every point!

FRODO LIVES!

Wilwarin
August 17th,2002, 08:33 PM
Gosh! I can't agree with all of you more! :loveyou:

But careful, Sam will kill us if we try anything! ;)

A! Elbereth
August 17th,2002, 09:39 PM
I already have :naughty: NO NO NO! :o :o :olol

*ahem* If only I had a ring right not to vanish with....;) lol

A! Elbereth
August 17th,2002, 09:40 PM
mmmmm I looooooooove that: Frodo Lives.... :loveyou: you bet he does!

Goldilocks
August 19th,2002, 04:13 AM
If you want to see THE sexiest picture of Elijah Wood, click on the link below. BUT BE WARNED: if you are not prepared to drool openly, cry out: 'OH MY GOD!" like a mental patient, or snap into a brainless coma because you cannot tear your eyes away from the screen, DO NOT OPEN LINK!

You've been warned. For bold onlookers, enjoy!

http://www.mostbeautifulman.com/gossip/elijahwood.shtml

Miruvor
August 19th,2002, 07:27 AM
You are SO right!
:elfeek:

A! Elbereth
August 19th,2002, 04:11 PM
hehehe I KNO... I have seen that picture before. It is soooo sexy! :loveyou:

Too bad we don't have a drool smiley hehe

Gowpon
August 19th,2002, 08:40 PM
He certainly doesn't look like a hobbit this way...lol :naughty: ;)
But he IS SEXY!!!
Well, I don't think he's tall, perhaps a little bit short...(plz don't kill me!! :o )
I like him! lol

Gowpon
August 19th,2002, 08:41 PM
Elbereth, do u know u sound like a hungry woman who just "accidently" spotted her prey? lol

A! Elbereth
August 19th,2002, 10:21 PM
Perhaps ;)

And hey, I like it that he's short... because I'm short too lol

Pil
August 20th,2002, 12:40 PM
He's....probably shorter than me...but there would be little in it!

A! Elbereth
August 20th,2002, 04:41 PM
Lij is 5'6 for your information..........

but... hmmmm I'm going to fish out a few Frodo pics

Ilmarë
August 20th,2002, 07:32 PM
Originally posted by Sindarin
Personally, Frodo is the ultimate LOTR protagonist.

Elijah did an absolutely fantastic job at portraying the heroic Hobbit. :thumbs:

As far as living in a Middle Earth fantasy, Frodo is the foremost loyal and true friend of every LOTR fan.

*falls on her knees in gratitude*
Sind.... thank you, thank you.!!! This is actually ON topic....!!!!!:thumbs:

:elfqueen:

A! Elbereth
August 20th,2002, 07:54 PM
Sorry Ilmare... everything I could think of that was on topic was already said... hehe

All i can say is that I agree. lol

Ilmarë
August 20th,2002, 08:41 PM
NP A!E.... just trying to keep the minds from becoming *coughs*... too "creative";)

:elfqueen:

Rosie Gamgee
August 23rd,2002, 05:47 PM
Sorry bout this, but I hate that pic :trout: As much as I love Elijah, I really do hate it. Sorry!:blush: I can't help it!


:elfqueen: **Rosie**

A! Elbereth
August 23rd,2002, 06:08 PM
What's wrong with it?

Rosie Gamgee
August 23rd,2002, 06:34 PM
I just hate it!!! It's like a really hot guy trying to look hot so he cancells himself out!!!! :p (try and figure that outlol )



:elfqueen: **Rosie**

A! Elbereth
August 23rd,2002, 08:03 PM
I'm sure he was payed to pose that way anyayz

But this is a Frodo thread! Personally, my personality fits better with Frodo's than it does with Elijah... but yeah Frodo is so cool! :thumbs: :loveyou:

Nessa
August 23rd,2002, 09:56 PM
Rosie, I agree! I don't hate the picture, but he looks much better when he's just being his normal, slightly geeky self. :loveyou:

Frodo became my favorate character upon reading Rotk...... his dedication and bravery, his intellect and pacifism..... I adore him more than any other character I've read before.

Tillia_hobbitlass
August 26th,2002, 04:16 PM
By the stars! I was hoping to find some Frodoistc!! Blue eyes fair skin dark hair!! By the Valar! Sweet stuff!
Yes I do love my frodo and gives him hugs every hour!
Frodo:Oh no.....
ME: *Grins* Any one else want to give hugs?
Frodo: AhHHHH!!!!!! Sam!!!
ME: Should that scare me?
Sam: Comes in with human sized papaers....homework papers!!*
ME: AHHHHHH!!!!!

Tilly

Hobmom
August 29th,2002, 02:42 AM
:grin: My very first post on this very cool looking beautifully designed board and site MUST be on my dear Frolijah's thread.

Found it through a link at Imladris where I swoon for Lij regularly.
OK let the swooning begin!


There are NO Fro pics here..well THAT has to change!!!!!


http://web.kcnet.org/arielshouse/angeleyes04.jpg
:loveyou:

Rameces
August 29th,2002, 04:18 AM
*droolage*

must...have...frolijah...

*hugglez picz of elijah wood*

my whole room iz a shrine to elijah! lol :p :grin: :) :thumbs:

A! Elbereth
August 29th,2002, 04:45 AM
Ah yes, the beauty of Frolijah.... :loveyou:

That picture is magnificent! Thank you for sharing it with us!

Lady of Rohan
October 6th,2002, 01:06 AM
well someone pointed out that there are no frodo threads! how shocking, after all, he is the main character, the ring bearer, the most gorgeous guy in ME, in other words, the most worthy of a thread worshipping him!

So I hereby start one!

Sindarin
October 6th,2002, 02:38 AM
At least now we have a Frodo thread.

alexphy
October 6th,2002, 07:02 AM
Frodo lives!

Nessa
October 6th,2002, 08:05 AM
Well, I do indeed love Frodo more than words express.....

but we do have Frodo threads, two or three of them, (and even a lonely Sam thread!), its just that they've been neglected and fallen to the second or third page. :(

:thumbs:

Pil
October 6th,2002, 10:26 AM
Yeah...but even if you go searching...like i did...they're like...WAY....down there...it's nice to have a fresh thread! :)

http://always.ejwsites.net/images/broadway.jpg

On this site they commented on how his hair looks lighter...he's probably dyed it a bit...what's the verdict? I prefer lij with black/brown hair...it shows up the pale skin and blue eyes better...with blonder hair he looks more surferdude and less mysterious... :huh: :smooch:

Pil
October 6th,2002, 11:01 AM
http://always.ejwsites.net/images/hannahscan.jpg

OMG! :elfeek: :o :elfeek:

I'm sorry if this ruined the day for any frodo lover out there...it certainley did mine! :elfeek: :o :elfeek:

Nessa
October 6th,2002, 03:13 PM
What's the matter, Pil? ;) Not ready to embrace the geek in him? Thats what he looks like a lot of times when he's not posing or all snazzed up.........

I think he's adorable. :p

Estel
October 6th,2002, 04:32 PM
"with blonder hair he looks more surferdude and less mysterious"

Hey, he IS a surfer dude these days!

Pil
October 6th,2002, 04:50 PM
I suppose....i just love the whole...elven fair...dark/pale...big blue eyes.....ah! Too much! :loveyou:

I know Nessa...it's really amusing when stars get caught when they're not expecting it... :)

Nessa
October 6th,2002, 05:43 PM
He's so cute when he's candid.......

Angry Frodo! Don't ask me why I love this pic:

http://www.warofthering.net/photos/tttspecial/imagepages/image163.shtml

And for the complete story of Elijah's new film Try Seventeen: (It sounds great! But don't read it if you don't want the whole thing spoiled!)

http://www.lilithofsherwood.com/Lij/tiff/try17synopsis.htm

Lord Raistlin
October 6th,2002, 05:48 PM
Frodo is cute. But the eyes is like Golf balls/

Tary
October 6th,2002, 07:34 PM
I like frodo

A! Elbereth
October 6th,2002, 08:51 PM
I have an over-abundant love for Frodo :loveyou:

I like that picture you posted of Elijah, Pil. I think his hair looks great.

Ah... and angry Frodo, I've always wondering how Elijah was going to do it, him being so sweet and all, but that certainly answers my question ;)

These last 2 weeks I have been glued to my computer reading Frodo fics, and I can't seem to pry myself away. Its a permanent habit now... but there's no problem there. ;) lol

Ilmarë
October 6th,2002, 09:11 PM
Ah A!E... hooked on Frodo fan fics, eh? There are worse things you could be hhoked on, mate:elfeek:
Now, while i'm a Leggy girl thru and thru.... i can appreciate the loveliness that is Frodo Baggins.... those huge baby blue eyes.... just lovely:angel: :angel:
:elfqueen:

Lissuin
October 7th,2002, 12:28 AM
OOOOOOHHHHH!! the eyes are what get me! Elijah's big blue eyes, and orlando (real) big brown eyes......*sigh* when they chose Elijah for Frodo I knew right away that he was perfect. His acting talent is beyond words along with his looks :naughty:

by the way, loved the pics!

:elfqueen:

A! Elbereth
October 7th,2002, 02:46 AM
Tis was the eyes that got me at first, but now its more than that. Now that I have read the book so many times in such a small period of time I understand Frodo as if I've known him. It really is amazing. But his eyes are still one of the most beautiful things I have set my own eyes upon.

Firith Evenstar
October 9th,2002, 03:07 AM
mm. i knew at nine years of age i liked(err..loved) him. yes. i've been a fan that long. (is 18 now) and his eyes are just fabulous. i had eyes like those wheni was little, so i was like, 'hey..he has eyes like me...hey..he's cute too...i like him!" lol

he's so wonderful. and he's real ya know? i'm glad people are finally noticing him. then again.....now he gets more attention...from other girls...eep.::o

Lissuin
October 9th,2002, 03:56 AM
Do you think......we should try to do something about keeping Elijah to ourselves? May hide somewhere?

What do you think?

:elfqueen:

Rosie Gamgee
October 18th,2002, 01:21 AM
Originally posted by Pil
http://always.ejwsites.net/images/hannahscan.jpg

OMG! :elfeek: :o :elfeek:

I'm sorry if this ruined the day for any frodo lover out there...it certainley did mine! :elfeek: :o :elfeek:


What a dorky pic. but nothing could make me love him less :p(except maybe smokingpfbbt )

A! Elbereth
October 18th,2002, 02:13 AM
Dorky.....DORKY????? *counts from 10 in her head* I will not blow up... I will not blow up.... lol jk

*ahem* He looks fine ;)

Bonos-Girl
October 18th,2002, 05:40 PM
i love him in all pics...:drool: but i prefer him with darker hair.....that 'dorky' pic you posted pil looked more like the guy who played spiderman (omg...i can't believe it...i can't remember his name.....total mind block!!!) than he usually does....maybe its the fact that in spiderman he plays a total 'dork' as you so eloquently put it!!

A! Elbereth
November 1st,2002, 10:10 PM
Tobey McGuire was his name....

Well well well.... I care not to look at this picture when I can stare at Frodo pictures - *stars singing* - all day long until the sun goes down!!! Maybe even make a few Frodo graphics and then a few Frodo stories and then maybe a few Frodo songs.... that's all I have been doing lately...:rolleyes: :grin:

Nessa
November 5th,2002, 02:20 AM
More Power to you, A!E!

This thread needs some action! Come now ladies, need you be reminded of those stunning features?

http://always.ejwsites.net/images3/frodonew9.jpg

Or those crystaline eyes?

http://always.ejwsites.net/images/pics44.jpg

A! Elbereth
November 5th,2002, 02:27 AM
*faints* FRODO!!!!!!!!! :loveyou: :drool: pwetty pwetty pwetty!!!!

:grin: :grin: :grin:

The glow of the fire accents his lovely soul so vibrantly, does it not?

Nessa
November 5th,2002, 02:35 AM
It do, A!E, it really, really do! :loveyou:

Tar-Ancalimë
November 5th,2002, 02:36 AM
i know! my fav scenes with him are when he first meets Strider... and before the other hobbits catch up :loveyou: he is soooo fine right then, with the glow on one half of his face, and the other in shadow... esp with the expression on his face of mingled suspision and fear... sooooo adorable!!!!!!!!:loveyou::):grin:lol

A! Elbereth
November 5th,2002, 02:38 AM
AHHHHH! :loveyou: :loveyou: :drool: :drool:

I'm going mad with -dare I say it?- nawwww....

yummy.... :flamer:

Lissuin
November 5th,2002, 10:09 PM
Originally posted by Nessa
Or those crystaline eyes?

http://always.ejwsites.net/images/pics44.jpg [/B]

Can somebody say.....WOW! :elfeek: That pic gives me chills for some reason he just seems so.....so...wow! Hard to describe him!
:)
Ok so if you had to Describe Elijah in ONE WORD what would it be?

:elfqueen:

A! Elbereth
November 5th,2002, 10:33 PM
Promising

Nessa
November 6th,2002, 12:21 AM
Good one A!E! :naughty: :angel:

I like this idea, Lissuin, glad that pic worked for you. ;)

Hmmmm..... one word.....

How about 'angelic'? Too feminine? Statuesque?

Can you settle for 'tasty'? 'Perfect' might do it. :grin:

A! Elbereth
November 6th,2002, 01:55 AM
Thank you, you are too kind *bows* ;) lol

He certainly is angelic though :loveyou:

Nessa
November 9th,2002, 11:25 PM
Angelic is right! :loveyou:

Check out this Wood pic from EW (though I'm sure most have seen it by now):

http://www.warofthering.net/images/newsimages/entertain2.jpg

Mmmmmm........ that unruly hair... those blue eyes.... rather dorky velvet shirt...... faded jeans ( :drool: )...... and incredibly sexy shoes! I want those shoes, drat it!

*ignoring the fact that Liv's arm is draped over his leg*

Tar-Ancalimë
November 9th,2002, 11:35 PM
damn why is she so pretty? i hate her :(

yeah... back to elijah... heehee :drool: lol he's pretty hot... um the shoes are just shoes?

Nessa
November 9th,2002, 11:38 PM
JUST SHOES?

Those are truly the hottest shoes I have ever seen. :drool: for the shoes.

Liv? Liv who? I've forgotten already. ;)

I'd like to know why they're looking in different directions. :huh:

But I guess I wasn't the one who posed them. If I had been....... :naughty: :angel:

A! Elbereth
November 10th,2002, 12:08 AM
I love this pic! But what are those blue thi......wait!!! Those ARE his eyes!!!!! :drool: :loveyou:


And that velvet shirt is sexy :naughty:

Tar-Ancalimë
November 10th,2002, 12:13 AM
yes i dont know any liv :angel: (god i hate her...):grin:

um but... sexy... shoes??? i really dont see how his shoes are sexy! :huh:

Lissuin
November 11th,2002, 03:55 AM
hold up here! sexy shoes?roflmao

Nessa
November 11th,2002, 05:59 AM
Oh, admit it everyone, those are the sexiest damn shoes you've ever seen! :loveyou: :drool:

The velvet shirt on the other hand, is quite blech, IMVHO. It looks to stuffy all buttoned up that way........ Had I been posing him it would have been the first thing to go (and probably wouldn't have been replaced). :naughty:

A certain elf princess would be the second...... :flamer:

Special Edition Spoilers:
Just read that there is a scene in which Aragorn is singing the Lay of Beren and Luthien in Elvish (!) and Frodo wakes up and inquires about it, proving that our darling learned hobbit does in fact speak Elvish! :loveyou: Looking forward to this one. ;)

Bonos-Girl
November 11th,2002, 05:40 PM
mine would have liv taken away first...then we'd do somethin about the rest of it....just in case it wasn't perfect enough already!!

Tar-Ancalimë
November 12th,2002, 02:21 AM
yes take that elven imposter away pfbbt

i dont have too many problems with the shirt (tho yes none would have been better :naughty: ) but i still dont get the shoes part they are just regular shoes oh well i suppose i never will see the light here. ah ha but neither will lisusin lol

Nessa
November 12th,2002, 03:10 AM
Ah well, I suppose I am only a lonely shoe fancier. :( lol

At least Tar agrees with me about the shirt (or lack there of). :naughty:

Have you seen the cover page? I didnt' post it because it looks so silly, they attempted to make Lij look taller than Liv, it looks like he's standing on a crate. :rolleyes: It seriously would have looked better to just have her taller.

Tari Lightfeather
November 12th,2002, 03:45 AM
Oh Frodo is Cute!
i have lots o posters in my room of Frodo
they are fun to stare at!

Togo Bleecker
November 12th,2002, 05:16 AM
i seemed to have stumbled into frodo land..fear not..i am a frodo fan myself as for the previous pic..eh..i have seen better but any elijah pic i must admit is a good pic..yes of course the shoes are sexy (they are chuck taylors!! they have always been!!). Liv looks like she is trying to untie his shoe..*-snicker snicker-* and boy there seems to be ALOT of pictures with those two together..i wonder if that means something anywho..i best be off before i get egged or something for suggesting things im sure people may not want to hear...*-scoots off to rewind her lotr tape to the rivendell part where frodo is sleeping-*

A! Elbereth
November 12th,2002, 05:21 AM
Originally posted by Nessa
Ah well, I suppose I am only a lonely shoe fancier. :( lol

At least Tar agrees with me about the shirt (or lack there of). :naughty:

Have you seen the cover page? I didnt' post it because it looks so silly, they attempted to make Lij look taller than Liv, it looks like he's standing on a crate. :rolleyes: It seriously would have looked better to just have her taller.

I was going to note that too! Poor Elijah has to stand on a crate to look more masculine-ish.... for me just a glimpse at his nose would suffice... lol

Hey hey! What do you mean you do not find his shoes sexy?! They are VERY sexy, right Nessa? ;) Anything Elijah wears whether it be the velvet shirt to a tight surfer's suit :naughty: is sexxxxxxyyyy roflmao

Tar-Ancalimë
November 12th,2002, 05:26 AM
awww well if you put it that way, El... gotta agree :loveyou: lol

as for Liv+Elijah... that is just too improbable *hope hope* as she is a huge flirt and he is smart :grin:

Frodo's Love
November 12th,2002, 10:08 AM
:-D
Frodo is my favourite, of course... I adore him for all that he is...
:-)

Nessa
November 12th,2002, 11:02 AM
Wow! I wait all day for people to post, and you all wait unitl I'm asleep. lol

I'm glad you're all seeing the light about those shoes! (Chuck Taylors, eh Togo?)

Don't worry people who don't like Liv, she's engaged, has been for years. To someone else I mean. :o ;)

Tight surfer suits, El??? Oh, I've seen those pics! :drool:

Two new Frodo lovers? :wave: Welcome Frodo's Love (I adore the name) and Tari Lightfeather!

Bonos-Girl
November 12th,2002, 05:04 PM
whos's she engaged to...they must be very brave...they live in coinstant fear of being sucked up by those ginourmous lips (ok...i can't spell ginormous....)

Togo Bleecker
November 14th,2002, 05:05 AM
yah chuck taylors hehe, im not sure if thats their offical name, but when my friend got a pair of bright pink ones that what she swore they wore..but anyway, welcome new frodo lovers!

Frodo's Love
November 14th,2002, 11:21 PM
Thanks al lot, Nessa and Togo... :)

A! Elbereth
November 15th,2002, 12:59 AM
Finally some more Frodo lovers to stand up with me! Nessa and I have been quite alone in the Frodo fancier's area.... thanks for showing up!

*panicks* Too many Aragorn fans!!! :elfeek: Legolas fans ahhhh!!!! lol ;)

Togo Bleecker
November 15th,2002, 02:52 AM
WAY too many legolas fans..though from one frodo fan to another i have a question to ask you guys...my sister told me that elijah wood is gay..NOW before you jump up and scream how horribly injustice that is...or how wrong it is..let me tell you why i think she is wrong even though she was going to send me a picture of elijah and his "boyfriend" i told her i did not think it was true, and she went on about how orli was gay, so was dom, and "sam" (she didnt know his name was sean) well THEN i caught her saying .."YAH RIGHT sean is married and has a daughter who is going to be in the movies..." so..as you can see this can go both ways, she claims to have proof that i yet to see, but she obviusely did not know what she was talking about when it came to sean astin. ..What do you guys think about this? cause i for one have been getting alot of grief about this gay rumor from my friends who are legolas lovers ("at least my guy isnt GAY!" dont worry i defend elijah/frodo till the end in EVERY battle). True...or....False? :huh:


P.S. -Sorry if this is off topic, cause i know this is a FRODO's lover thread..and this is kinda about elij...

A! Elbereth
November 15th,2002, 03:13 AM
This has been asked so many times and the answer is NO! Elijah is not gay! Have you seen the pictures of him frenching his old girl friend and having a lovely ol' time with her behind? lol That is enough proof. People jump to conclusions so quick, I tell ya. Someone is really exaggerating to go as far as saying all the hobbits are gay. :rolleyes: The only gay fellowship member is Ian Mckellen! The end. lol

Tar-Ancalimë
November 15th,2002, 05:02 AM
yes... hes not gay... :) which means, ladies... we have a chance! lol

ah thats ok... frodo, elij, same thing! lol mostly anyway

and yes! youre so right! waaaay too many leggy lovers :rolleyes: i ask you, what is so much greater than all the other chars about a guy who has few lines and a small, tiny role in the books... this verses the main character!!! lol again, i ask you.... ;)

A! Elbereth
November 15th,2002, 10:38 PM
I almost feel too 'non-original' for liking the main character, because most girls always fall for the main character. But because there are more Leggy and Aragorn fans I don't feel as stupid as in a regular, 'not as interesting' movie.

But there is still something...hmmm I can't explain - Frodo is awesome, and not because he is the main guy. He's just....mmmmmmm :drool:

roflmao

Togo Bleecker
November 15th,2002, 11:06 PM
well my big debate with the legolas fans is: i counted how many lines he has, it is roughly 27ish, well its a three hour long movie, he doesnt even have 10 lines per hour.. frodo EASILY has that. Therefore he is not a main character and should be eliminated...BUT then of course they are betting he has a bigger role in the next moive, which i suppose is true. The battle between frodo and blondie...elves and hobbits it could last a century.

Tar-Ancalimë
November 15th,2002, 11:10 PM
yes the thing about lines in the movie... MOST OF THEM ARE PJ'S!!!!!! :rolleyes: he just looks fine, that's all!

A! Elbereth
November 15th,2002, 11:12 PM
well, a main character is usually in the number of 1-2 people... I would say that the second person depends on the movie/book. In all the book/movies Frodo is the main, but in ROTK Sam is definetly beside him in that category, but I haven't figured out the first two

thought, I daresay there are some who disagree with me here? But after all, this is a Frodo thread ;) lol

Togo Bleecker
November 15th,2002, 11:30 PM
yes i whole-heartily agree, not just one person can be a main character there are always people around him, and in this one...wow there are ALOT,, but i just dont think legolas is a big one, big as say aragorn, or gandalf

Frodo's Love
November 16th,2002, 08:00 AM
I also cannot explain what precisely makes Frodo seem so special to me, but it is definitely not his position as a main- character... He has got a certain power and kindness on him that a Legolas will never have...

Togo Bleecker
November 17th,2002, 06:15 PM
he has the whole fate of middle earth on his shoulders...something legolas doesnt have...

A! Elbereth
November 17th,2002, 10:30 PM
That is more of a bad thing than a good thing.... lol

But it is good because he was the only one who could endure through the quest with the ring around his neck. :grin:

Oh yes, we love Frodo :loveyou: ;)

Tar-Ancalimë
November 17th,2002, 11:03 PM
yeah! lets see legolas bear the ring! lol

Togo Bleecker
November 17th,2002, 11:37 PM
it would consume him in record time..hah!

A! Elbereth
November 18th,2002, 02:41 AM
hehehehe lol

Togo Bleecker
November 18th,2002, 03:26 AM
if elves can die of a broken heart just imagine what a ring of power would do to them!! *-gasp-* anyway back on topic, umm yah frodo *-oddly is struggling to think of something to say about him-* you know i finally just realized *-if anything people will get a kick out of this -* that the whole reason frodo's clothes are better than say Sams is because Bilbos rich and the whole reaons bilbo's rich is because of Smaug the dragon and the dwarves. I just got done reading the hobbit for the first time (can ya tell?) but before hand i always thought it was kinda unfair that frodo's clothes were better than sam's.. :huh:

Nessa
November 19th,2002, 03:28 AM
(As Sam's resident obsessee), I think his clothes are just great! If you mean Frodo's are higher quality, than I suppose that can be agreed upon, but somehow I don't think Sam would care about things like that.....

Frodo's Love, we know how you feel, girl! Keep posting here, I beg you! Are numbers are few! :)

I think we can all agree that we prefer Frodo to Legolas, which is probably why we're posting in the Frodo thread. ;) I personally like the charactor of Legolas both in the book and the movie and admire Orlando Bloom for a job well done. He just doesn't do anything for me.

El, back me up on the following, dear! Frodo in the ext. version: Mouth-wateringly beatiful! Absolutely most gorgeous new shot of him came in The Green Dragon when one of the older hobbits (possibly the Gaffer) told him to "Keep your nose out of trouble and no trouble will come to you." And he gives him this kind of wink and smile expression, with a slight raise of his glass.... *eep*

And Elijah in the extra features! OH MY.

Tar-Ancalimë
November 19th,2002, 03:32 AM
dude! frodo is completely better than legolas. and that expression, i completely agree, nessa! :loveyou:

aww whats not to love about frodo?

Togo Bleecker
November 19th,2002, 03:55 AM
a wink! he winks! ooo i cant wait to see the new scenes they sound so wonderful, i am envious of all you people who have seen it or owned it already, but dont worry i can wait....:):):)

A! Elbereth
November 19th,2002, 03:59 AM
Originally posted by Nessa

El, back me up on the following, dear! Frodo in the ext. version: Mouth-wateringly beatiful! Absolutely most gorgeous new shot of him came in The Green Dragon when one of the older hobbits (possibly the Gaffer) told him to "Keep your nose out of trouble and no trouble will come to you." And he gives him this kind of wink and smile expression, with a slight raise of his glass.... *eep*

And Elijah in the extra features! OH MY.

You said it Nessa! The Green Dragon scene and The Passing of the Elves are the best, but if you wanna smile, and not cry your eyes out from the Elves scene.... GREEN DRAGRON HERE WE COME!

Elijah was.... how can I say this.... PERFECT in the extras.... I loved it when he talked about how Ian shared a trailer with them, and that Elijah and Dom would blast their music in the morning, and then Elijah made an 'Ian impression' of his protesting! I nearly fell out of my chair laughing!

(my favorite though, is still when they talk about Elijah and his unusual sleeping habits - and that yawn! awwww :loveyou: )

Bright Shadow
November 19th,2002, 04:50 AM
frodo's pretty cool, if not naive
thats all right, hes the ring bearer, so we better like him

A! Elbereth
November 20th,2002, 03:29 AM
Well, who couldn't like him? Even those who would pick Frodo as their last favorite (my friend) has to admit he's simply adorable :loveyou:

Frodo's Love
November 20th,2002, 09:29 AM
:loveyou: :loveyou: :loveyou:

Togo Bleecker
November 20th,2002, 01:42 PM
i have to agree frodo is adorable but heres a tough question for ya who is cuter elijah (the man behind the hobbit) or frodo?

Tar-Ancalimë
November 20th,2002, 02:06 PM
frodo IMO... elijah is adorable but frodo just has that.... hobbitish look about him lol

Nessa
November 20th,2002, 02:38 PM
I care much more about Frodo, its the charactor that makes him worth while. :loveyou:

Elijah is adorable as well, and he provides a little bit of sexy that I can't really see in him wile he's playing Frodo........ but I find it difficult to swoon hardcore over a perfect stranger, unless its only for their looks. I feel like I know Frodo through and through, so I definately prefer him.

I absolutely appreciate Lij for bringing him across well. I can't wait to see what he's like in TTT.

Eoliah
November 20th,2002, 06:47 PM
Originally posted by Nessa


El, back me up on the following, dear! Frodo in the ext. version: Mouth-wateringly beatiful! Absolutely most gorgeous new shot of him came in The Green Dragon when one of the older hobbits (possibly the Gaffer) told him to "Keep your nose out of trouble and no trouble will come to you." And he gives him this kind of wink and smile expression, with a slight raise of his glass.... *eep*
.

someone can take a screenshot ? or a photo ? and post it ?

Tar-Ancalimë
November 20th,2002, 07:36 PM
oooooh he is so adorable yes yes he is :grin:

hmmm screenshots... how would one go about taking one? :huh:

A! Elbereth
November 20th,2002, 10:13 PM
I have screenshots! You simply play the dvd on your computer and press a button that takes pictures while the movie is playing :grin: Here's a few pictures from The Green Dragon scene - all Frodo of course ;)

http://content.neopets.com/guilds/s/shimmers8888/shimmers8888_0744569001037830033.jpg

http://content.neopets.com/guilds/s/shimmers8888/shimmers8888_0550643001037830259.jpg

http://content.neopets.com/guilds/s/shimmers8888/shimmers8888_0681716001037830364.jpg

Oh, I find Frodo so much more appealing than Elijah. Although Elijah is still awesome, Frodo has that innocence and wisdom (Elijah has it too, but in a different way) that you don't see anywhere else. Nessa explained it fairly well.

Eoliah
November 20th,2002, 10:32 PM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by A! Elbereth
I have screenshots! You simply play the dvd on your computer and press a button that takes pictures while the movie is playing :grin: Here's a few pictures from The Green Dragon scene - all Frodo of course ;)

http://content.neopets.com/guilds/s/shimmers8888/shimmers8888_0744569001037830033.jpg

http://content.neopets.com/guilds/s/shimmers8888/shimmers8888_0550643001037830259.jpg

http://content.neopets.com/guilds/s/shimmers8888/shimmers8888_0681716001037830364.jpg

Oh, I find Frodo so much more appealing than Elijah. Although Elijah is still awesome, Frodo has that innocence and wisdom (Elijah has it too, but in a different way) that you don't see anywhere else. Nessa explained it fairly well. [/QUOTE

Wow !!! thank you, thank you very much fot that lovely picts !!! I've no DVD player nor the DVD movie, so I can't see those new scenes....
In the third one, I really looove the way he is laughing. (I don't know why, but It makes me laught the same way)

As you do, I prefer Frodo than the actor. Of course, E Wood is very good at playing the role (he has the exact look I think) but now the film is over, the actor is no more Frodo for me. The actor goes on it's way (playing other people), but Frodo remains.
In fact, as I think about that, I discover that it is the character Frodo that I love, not the actor...

Nessa
November 20th,2002, 10:35 PM
GORGEOUS pics, El, thanks so much! :grin:

*sigh*

:drool:

A! Elbereth
November 20th,2002, 10:44 PM
Your welcome, as always! *bows with a napkin in her hand due to the massive droolage in the screenshots* :drool:

Nessa
November 20th,2002, 10:52 PM
It is getting a little messy.....

You mentioned liking the part in the DVD special features where the cast spoke about Elijah sleeping everywhere and anywhere at any time, didn't you, El? Did you see him asleep in that messy room with stuff piled everywhere? It was so cute, but I had to wonder where the heck he was!

I was hoping they'd show him asleep on the nose of that statue head at Amon Hen, I saw a cap of it once (I'm sure I posted it somewhere) and its the most adorable thing I've ever seen!

:loveyou:

A! Elbereth
November 20th,2002, 10:55 PM
This pic right??? (http://content.neopets.com/guilds/e/elbereth1368/elbereth1368_0287745001037330844.jpg)
Isn't it cute? It makes my heart skip a beat :loveyou:

You mean to say he didn't do that on purpose? Elijah really fell asleep on the statue?? lol if that's true I may faint of all the cuteness floating around in my head thinking about it ;)

P.S. Wow this is a very beautiful sample from the TTT soundtrack!!! http://media.soundtrack.net/twotowers/11.mp3

Herenyë
November 22nd,2002, 02:25 AM
elijah wood is cute......he looks really good with black hair.....his blue eyes makes me melt........:drool:

A! Elbereth
November 22nd,2002, 04:20 AM
They better, or his eye's very existence would be in vain. ;) :drool:

Nessa
November 22nd,2002, 06:46 PM
lol PutriLeggie!

So, its a snow day, and I've had nothing to do but cruise the net for pics. ;)

Here's a shower pic from The Bumblebee Flies Anyway: (Thats not too pervy, is it?)

http://gallery.ejwsites.net/galpic/gallery/movies/1999bumblee/ewbumblebee130.jpg

This one is just too interesting to keep to myself:

http://galleriy.ejwsites.net/galpic/gallery/tv/guest/letterman/121202-06.jpg

This is a nice close-up of his face, very serious though. And tan. And sweaty. Oh, just look for yourself!

http://gallery.ejwsites.net/gallery/closeups/stylish/celebexch2.jpg

And finally, this. Its just about the sexiest thing I've ever seen.

http://gallery.ejwsites.net/galpic/gallery/closeups/stylish/raggedjeans.jpg

Now that makes me mad. verymad Spend all kinds of time trying to find the highest quality pics, and it turns out the site doesn't like there pics accesed directly. :rolleyes:

Never mind. :(

A! Elbereth
November 22nd,2002, 10:02 PM
awwwwwwwwwwww see that's why I upload all the pictures that I show on here (which actually takes a lot of time ;))

GO ELIJAH....:grin: :mmmm: GO FRODO :grin:

Pil
November 22nd,2002, 10:27 PM
I think i've found a fan to contend with your fan status A! Elbereth! :elfeek:

Nessa
November 23rd,2002, 12:56 AM
Who do you mean, Pil? *puzzled*

Here's a pic of poor, totured Fro. :(

http://www.theonering.net/movie/scrapbook/large/5161

A! Elbereth
November 23rd,2002, 03:26 AM
Originally posted by Pil
I think i've found a fan to contend with your fan status A! Elbereth! :elfeek:

What's that supposed to mean? Are you saying there is someone out there who could do better at being a Frodo fan than me? When I spend over 4/6 my free time doing activities somehow realted to him? roflmao....seriously though ;)

Herenyë
November 23rd,2002, 03:34 AM
Nessa....i saw some of it and omgsh!!! he is HOT.....Blue eyes......*melts*.......heehee........=)))......TH X!!!!!!.......

Nessa
November 23rd,2002, 06:14 AM
Originally posted by A! Elbereth
When I spend over 4/6 my free time doing activities somehow realted to him?

You do know that 4/6 simplifies to 3/4 do you not? lol (Only kidding!)

But really Pil, I have met very few whose dedication to Frodo rivaled Elbereth's. ;)

I'm glad you enjoyed, PutriLeggy! :grin:

Herenyë
November 23rd,2002, 07:40 AM
Frodo is hot........*:drool:*.......

Frodo's Love
November 23rd,2002, 01:07 PM
I understand all of you very good! Frodo is always on my mind and I' m obsessed...:loveyou:
It's good to see that I'm not the only one! Frodo also means much more to me than Elijah does, though he's portraying Frodo excellently :thumbs:
And yes: Frodo IS hot! :naughty:
* dreams away*:)

A! Elbereth
November 23rd,2002, 06:04 PM
Originally posted by Nessa
You do know that 4/6 simplifies to 3/4 do you not? lol (Only kidding!)

But really Pil, I have met very few whose dedication to Frodo rivaled Elbereth's. ;)


OK.... ok maybe I am not the greatest at math.... :blush: lol But at least you get the idea! ;)

Ithielnor
November 23rd,2002, 07:18 PM
You do know that 4/6 simplifies to 3/4 do you not? lol (only kidding)
ummm.....................
I HOPE you were joking there, because 4/6 actually simplifies to 2/3 (I'm really getting to have serious doubts about the inteligence of the people on this forum lol J/K, don't trout me)

Eoliah
November 23rd,2002, 11:18 PM
Here is a photo that I just discovered.

http://groups.msn.com/_Secure/0WADeAiocnBl886UlLt7G9Bfcpxuh2VLJsoPUhx42EkuVnp0Y7 fGWpkK2!QXKqrSkoEJXaiOZ0nzDkGlD57ibNuYi5d9pkLrq2Dz GpKcMcAuQ9XyBUHUeuEa6yxZPUrk9RQAAAP****8/fgandalfrod.jpg?dc=467537332

(sorry for the bad format of the link : you just copy and paste on the location bar of your browser and it should be OK)

tell me what you think. I really love it. We can, really feel the big friendship of the two. It's very moving, very tender I think...

Togo Bleecker
November 24th,2002, 12:48 AM
aww the link didnt work for me

Tar-Ancalimë
November 24th,2002, 12:52 AM
if you really really want it... that badly... the only i think itll work is if you copy those three lines up there into the box here, manually take out the lines separations that automatically come with the copy from up there... then take that, copy it, and THEN put it into the address line or your browser....

A! Elbereth
November 24th,2002, 01:04 AM
Originally posted by Ithielnor
ummm.....................
I HOPE you were joking there, because 4/6 actually simplifies to 2/3 (I'm really getting to have serious doubts about the inteligence of the people on this forum lol J/K, don't trout me)

lol Nessa, I suppose you are where I am in the math category? lol ;)

Nessa
November 24th,2002, 03:11 AM
:blush: Of course I knew that, guys! Iwas only joking! Ha! Ha! :blush:

(Alright, so I'm not the brightest poster in the place. :rolleyes: lol )

Sorry Eoliah, I couldn't see the pic, even after I typed all that in to my browser thing. :(

Herenyë
November 24th,2002, 04:34 AM
Tar-Ancalime, i didnt understand wat u were talking about....*confused*

A! Elbereth
November 24th,2002, 05:12 AM
Nessa that was adorable! lol

ermmmmm, yeah will back to Frodo - yum... heh heh... lol :blush:

Frodo's Love
November 26th,2002, 03:22 PM
Originally posted by A! Elbereth

ermmmmm, yeah will back to Frodo - yum... heh heh... lol :blush: [/B]

:naughty:
By the way, A! E, do you have a link to your fanfics? * very curious, indeed*

A! Elbereth
November 26th,2002, 09:47 PM
Well, FL, I suppose it depends on if you like angst or not. I tend to have more angsty fics than happy ones. But don't get me wrong. I have 1 finished fic and one work in progress fic that end or are happy. There is more than one link, and I don't want to clutter the site, so perhaps you could PM me and I would be happy to give you the links :grin:

Firith Evenstar
December 5th,2002, 04:38 PM
I look around here and do not see anything to worship him!

that's okay. I will worship you. WIth your cute frodo-esque ways. poor frodo. no one loves you. i do tho. :(.....:o:rolleyes:

Bonos-Girl
December 5th,2002, 05:34 PM
WHAT?!?!?! noone loves him.....are you blind?!?!??! how can noone like him...that is completely untrue :drool:....frodo!!!

Firith Evenstar
December 5th,2002, 05:43 PM
i mean, there's no thread devoted entirely to him! that's real love man :loveyou:

Ilmarë
December 5th,2002, 06:25 PM
Ach, we love Frodo... we do!! It's just that we get a bit caught up with the Elves and Men at times. 'Lij has THE most gorgeous eyes I've ever seen!!!:naughty: lol

Frodo's Love
December 5th,2002, 07:48 PM
There is a :loveyou:Frodo-thread :loveyou: in here already (must be on the second or third page now)...
Look at my name- who do you think I love the most?! ;)
:drool:

Eoliah
December 5th,2002, 08:52 PM
Originally posted by Firith Evenstar
I look around here and do not see anything to worship him!

that's okay. I will worship you. WIth your cute frodo-esque ways. poor frodo. no one loves you. i do tho. :(.....:o:rolleyes:

Hey ! I'me here !!!!!!

Do you really imagined that Frodo is alone ?
And why "poor him" ? Ok, ok, he went trhu dramatic events, having a hard time in the book. But the hard times lasted only the time to read the book (or to see a film). And we can say that if Tolkien has created some sadness for Frodo, we can also create hapiness fo him too. Who can prevent us to do that ?

We can change things and play a little game. I just begin : you want Frodo to be happy ? I'ts possible ! First, let's make him a present to show him that we are fond of his good nature. Here is mine present :

http://silhoue.free.fr/FrodoThings/roses.jpg

and second : let's see if he can smile again :

http://silhoue.free.fr/FrodoThings/smile.jpg
Don't you think i'ts working fine ? :-).

So, wake up and let's dream and let's be a little bit romantic and magic...

Wilwarin
December 5th,2002, 09:12 PM
Was that really a smile? It looks more like a.......hmm.......I don't know what it looks like.

But I like Frodo! I really do! He is my favorite hobbit.......next to Sam of course!

A! Elbereth
December 5th,2002, 09:48 PM
You would have to be crazy to not get at least a hint of what I feel for Frodo ;) lol

I should hope everyone would know by now what I do all day? :p roflmao

Firith Evenstar
December 5th,2002, 09:52 PM
yay! This is our Frodo Worship Thread!

A! Elbereth
December 5th,2002, 09:55 PM
*worships endlessly* Although.... I was <i>already</i> worshiping him for a while. It's amazing how creative you can get to make a shrine with just some paper, a printer, and a few posters .... heh heh heh.....

:loveyou:

Firith Evenstar
December 5th,2002, 10:00 PM
tell me about it! he's all over my room! :drool:

Tar-Ancalimë
December 5th,2002, 11:57 PM
here (http://www.warofthering.net/forums/vbulletin225/upload/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1205), here (http://www.warofthering.net/forums/vbulletin225/upload/showthread.php?s=&threadid=637), and here (http://www.warofthering.net/forums/vbulletin225/upload/showthread.php?s=&threadid=441) are all the frodo threads that have been in this forum... they all died.... i cant believe, the main charater of the lotr cant keep enough interest for an active thread...lol but we'll do better on this thread, right? ;)

A! Elbereth
December 6th,2002, 04:30 AM
Well, at least I tried to make one, and usually I am the last to post on the Frodo thread before it is abandoned... at least it's happened before, and I would die when no one would reply - because I wanted to talk about FRODO!

But I don't mind there being more then one thread for him... who wouldn't? :huh:

Frodo's Love
December 6th,2002, 06:12 PM
:mmmm:That there were Frodo-threads who "died" doesn't mean that there are no more Frodo- lovers in here, right? I will never stop worshipping him... it's simply too late now to do that:smooch: :)

I'm still here:wave:

By the way, A! Elbereth: I like your stories very much :thumbs:

A! Elbereth
December 6th,2002, 07:34 PM
Frodo fans who die out aren't really Frodo fans, now are they? lol ;)

Thank you, FL :grin:

Eoliah
December 6th,2002, 11:01 PM
Originally posted by Frodo's Love
: I'm still here:wave:


still here too
lol

Frodo is a hero :loveyou:

A! Elbereth
December 7th,2002, 08:31 AM
And without any doubt!

Anyone else hear the 'insane' Frodo rumors for TTT? (I won't say too much for those who want a spoiler free inviornment).... Has to do with Sam... ya know... *panics*

Frodo's Love
December 7th,2002, 10:44 AM
I've heard about the rumours, too... and I hope that it isn't true.:angry: The fact that there should be a lot of scenes that are not similar to the book worries me a bit.
Now, we have to wait and see... I mostly fear that I cannot stand to see Frodo suffering more and more...mecry
*swears to herself not to look at any spoilers or trailers anymore*

Nessa
December 8th,2002, 03:41 AM
Page 2? :(

Ladies, where art thou? Elbereth? Frodo's Love? Anyone???

*sigh* So.......Elijah got a new haircut. Shaved his head, really. He's left with a crew cut and sideburns. Thrilling, isn't it?

Tar-Ancalimë
December 8th,2002, 03:55 AM
heh. every one went to the 'poor frodo' thread. seeing as how this one was dying i dont have great hopes for the other one. lol oh well... frodo still rocks lol

Nessa
December 8th,2002, 04:10 AM
Why go to the 'Poor Frodo' thread when there is still a perfectly good one right here?

Tar-Ancalimë
December 8th,2002, 04:14 AM
cause this one was on the second page, and the person who started the frodo thread didnt see it. i could merge them though. theres like, four total ...

Togo Bleecker
December 8th,2002, 06:13 AM
im confused..i think i will just stay with this one...

Tar-Ancalimë
December 8th,2002, 06:18 AM
well theyre merged now. sorry about the confusion. back to frodo worshipping now lol....

Togo Bleecker
December 8th,2002, 06:20 AM
right... *takes out her shrine and shoves togo in a closet* j/k i dont have a shrine..im not THAT bad although i would love a poster..that would be nice, i would hang it on my ceiling that way i can look at him when im trying to fall asleep and listening to my lotr soundtrack (that has become such a habit its not even funny anymore..i cant sleep without it). i think for now my bookmark does me fine justice..i smile everytime i open my book and frodo's staring back at me..and on the other side..sam!!!

A! Elbereth
December 8th,2002, 06:48 AM
I have a shrine, although its not on my walls, its just a 200 page scrapbook as well as the 30 fan fiction stories I printed out that were all about him... (and most of them are as long as a novel, give or take 300 pages :o)

I also listen to the TTT and FOTR soundtrack every night before I go to bed... addictive, isn't it?

Sometimes when I wake up at night I have to turn my lamp on and turn it to the wall and look at Frodo's face on my poster, or else I won't fall asleep lol

Tar-Ancalimë
December 8th,2002, 06:51 AM
mm i have a shrine in my head ;)... and i listen to the fotr soundtrack every night when sleeping too... dont have ttt yet, i suppose i will get it on the 10th :huh:

Frodo's Love
December 8th,2002, 09:06 AM
Originally posted by Tar-Ancalimë
mm i have a shrine in my head ;)...

:grin: I've built up a shrine in my head, too.... It's a very big one, actually!roflmao
And I've also created a lot of "bad habits" (not "hobbits":p )
:loveyou: :loveyou: :loveyou: FRODO!!!! :loveyou: :loveyou: :loveyou:

*ehem* ;)roflmao lol

Eoliah
December 8th,2002, 12:46 PM
I generally spend my evening time chasing every picture of Frodo I can find. Especially fan art, some on them are beautiful.
Have already about 500 pictures of him.

He really is sure a very good fellow !
When I come back from the office, I just have look at him (screen wallpaper and screensaver), and feel better.
Strange how he can have such a powerfull effect on people.

I think that between the actor and the role, there was a kind of alchemy that make the Frodo character come to life. Although that when I think about it, it's not the actor who have that effect, but the character. EJW is a perfect Frodo, but the footage ended, he is no Frodo anymore, (although he is handsome), he has now his own life, and the Frodo character has gained his own life too. I do'nt mean to shock people, I appreciate very much the performance of EJW, but that's the way I feel it : when it come to find which one has such effect on me, I find that's the character, not the actor.

Nessa
December 8th,2002, 01:28 PM
Actually, Eoliah, I think thats the general opinion around here: People mostly seem to prefer the charactor greatly over the actor. I surely do, so you're not alone! ;) It only makes sense to be more attached to someone you know better, and thats Frodo. I adore Elijah, and he's extremely attractive to me, but I'm far less attached to him than dear Frodo.

Wow, I feel like quite a slacker while all of you have shrines and all. I guess mine must be in my head, as well. ;)

Frodo's Love
December 8th,2002, 02:42 PM
Nessa and Eoliah: perfectly said! :) I also prefer the character, not the actor. But I really appreciate Elijah's way of giving "life" to Frodo like he does it!
I'm also one of the people collecting all pictures from Frodo I can find. :loveyou:

Tar-Ancalimë
December 8th,2002, 02:47 PM
well I personally think that fictional characters are much more influential and atrractive than real life actors... you get to know the character so much better than you could ever know some one real... and the character is a lot moe reachable than the actor... in all cases, I prefer charcters over actors :)

I collect pics I think are really good... I have only a few of Frodo... I don't try to get every one I can find, generally I save a pic only if it strikes me in some particular way :grin: oh well, thats not a bad thing, is it...;)

Frodo's Love
December 8th,2002, 03:06 PM
Strangely enough nearly all pics of Frodo have an effect on me... :) Yes, I know that I'm really fanatic about him :blush: :wiggle:

Iarfirithwen
December 14th,2002, 09:19 AM
I think thats the mark of a talented actor Eoliah. While ppl sometimes have trouble separating two ( a character from an actor) I don't here. The Elijah I have seen in interviews is a different person to Frodo played by Elijah. And that s the way it should be. Look at a great actor like Cate Blancett all her character portrayals have been so completely different. She really can morph into any character in an amazing way ~ and I think thats the mark of trully talented actor. I think Elijah did an amazing job. And while it is the character of Frodo that we love from LOTR the Frodo in the films in heavily influenced by the actor and his (and PJ's) interpretation of the character from the books. A different actor would have produced a different Frodo. He might have done the same things but the expressions and nuances would have been very different and so would Frodo. (e.g., could you imagine Leonardo DiCaprio or Macauley Culkin as Frodo?)

Nessa, you're right. I quite like Elijah's new cut, and stubble. I think it makes him look a little older. Did anyone else watch the MTV TRL (http://www.warofthering.net/downloads/miscfootage.shtml) segment with Elijah and the Mariah Carey comment :elfeek: ~ it cracked me up.

Frodo's Love
December 14th,2002, 03:02 PM
Originally posted by Iarfirithwen
could you imagine Leonardo DiCaprio or Macauley Culkin as Frodo?


No way!!roflmao

Herenyë
December 15th,2002, 02:41 AM
*freaked out ... shocked*

.:whisphers:. Leonardo is cute thou but Macauley isnt he is freaky *no offense thou* .:whisphers:.

A! Elbereth
December 15th,2002, 03:46 AM
When I have nothing better to do, I make Frodo icons, banners, webpages, ficlets, and drawings... because... I'm in complete admiration of him...

I would not be doing that if Leonardo was Frodo.... I would be rather upset lol Besdies, he wouldn't fit in with the hobbit description... more like a corrupted elf hehe roflmao

Iarfirithwen
December 15th,2002, 04:06 AM
Originally posted by A! Elbereth


I would not be doing that if Leonardo was Frodo.... I would be rather upset lol Besdies, he wouldn't fit in with the hobbit description... more like a corrupted elf hehe roflmao
A! Elbereth, do you mean a corrupted elf like an .. orc ?

roflmao

(maybe that was a little unkind.)

I don't mind Leonardo et al, but Elijah's Frodo is the Frodo I always imagined. So yes I like the way Elijah gave life to Frodo ... and I like his interpretation. I can't wait to see the changes in Frodo over the three films.

A! Elbereth
December 15th,2002, 04:14 AM
Originally posted by Iarfirithwen
A! Elbereth, do you mean a corrupted elf like an .. orc ?

roflmao

(maybe that was a little unkind.)


If you want it to mean that... I was implying he Leonardo had too many errors to make a flawless elf...

Unkind to whom, may I ask? ;) Leonardo, or the orc? Poor orc has to be compared to Leo... or to me?

Iarfirithwen
December 15th,2002, 04:18 AM
Oh good ness not you. I was suggesting that I was being a little unkind to Leonardo for suggesting he looked like an orc (which I don't think he does...I was just playing with words ...what you said). I know what you meant (in that out of all of the races his face kind of is in the direction of an elf but isn't quite right for an elf). I was just having fun with the words which happened to be a description of orcs ... corrupted elves:)

A! Elbereth
December 15th,2002, 04:19 AM
I would think the orc would be more offended lol

Iarfirithwen
December 15th,2002, 04:25 AM
Ooooo ;)

I notice in the Hobbits Worshipping thread you just said you spoke to Elijah on Thursday. Like wow. How amazing! Where and how?

A! Elbereth
December 15th,2002, 04:58 AM
Msn chat :grin: Even though it wasn't exactly speaking

BTW.... Did you all know that Tolkien got the name 'Frodo' from a mythical hero that was nearly forgotten? I found that quite interesing...

Eoliah
December 15th,2002, 10:25 AM
Originally posted by A! Elbereth
Msn chat :grin: Even though it wasn't exactly speaking

BTW.... Did you all know that Tolkien got the name 'Frodo' from a mythical hero that was nearly forgotten? I found that quite interesing...

Yes, of course.
I copy you these lines founded somewhere on the web (sorry, don't remember where) :

"Frodo is a real name from the Germanic tradition. Its Old English form was Fróda. Its obvious connection is with the old word ‘fród’ meaning etymologically ‘wise by experience’, but it had mythological connexions with legends of the Golden Age in the North ….. "

Frodo's Love
December 15th,2002, 10:33 AM
Originally posted by Eoliah

"Frodo is a real name from the Germanic tradition. Its Old English form was Fróda. Its obvious connection is with the old word ‘fród’ meaning etymologically ‘wise by experience’, but it had mythological connexions with legends of the Golden Age in the North ….. "

Yes, I also read that. It's not long ago, BTW. (I think two or three weeks ago :p ) And the name fits in very good to the character of Frodo, in my opinion...:) "wise by experience"- it couldn't have been better said :thumbs:

Togo Bleecker
December 17th,2002, 01:57 PM
you know, the more i see elijah the more i begin to like frodo more..im definantly a frodo fan more than a eljiah fan my friends think im crazy because i go around saying frodo is cuter than elijah..but hey at least it makes them laugh. If ya cant dazzle them with your logic humor them with your wit

Firith Evenstar
December 20th,2002, 09:21 PM
WOW! I was melting whenever he was on screen. I think he gets better with each film if its at all possible! oh..he should play darker roles more often...my Lord....heart hurts. mmm. sorry. >< He did reeeally good is all i'm trying to say. heh. :loveyou: :drool:

Frodo's Love
December 20th,2002, 09:24 PM
I have to wait to figure it out... wait... exactly 17 hours and 21 minutes :drool: :whoohoo:
:)

A! Elbereth
December 20th,2002, 09:44 PM
Elijah did extremely well. Now I know what Elijah's fellow actors, as well as PJ were talking about when they said it was hard to believe Elijah, at so young of an age could make such an impact. Wow. I was watching for eye expressions, because they keep saying you can tell what he's feeling through his eyes, and it's amazing that Elijah is only pretending to be Frodo, but he can make it seem real. His acting isn't fake its so real...

Which is why I love Frodo so much. He puts such effort into it, which leads to us Frodo obsessees... :loveyou: :drool:

Nessa
December 20th,2002, 09:46 PM
Firith and Elbereth, you two are killing me. You really really are. :mmmm:

"Wise by expierience," could that be any more perfect for him? Magnificent!

*Checks her watch* Two hours to go! :grin:

Togo Bleecker
December 21st,2002, 12:33 AM
i just got back from the film and to advoid giving anything away im just gonna say...girls...he wont let ya down, he certainly didnt let me down

A! Elbereth
December 21st,2002, 05:40 PM
Me neither.... actually, I am going mad sitting here talking about it while my sister is going to go again today. That will be her 4th, and I've only gone twice!!! I need to watch Elijah's excellent performance! verymad

Arwen Elf
January 7th,2003, 11:25 PM
I haven't said anything about Frodo in a long time, so I think it is about time to vent!:drool: I think that since I've seen TTT, I've grown very much in love with Frodo, much more so than before. He has a certain je ne sais pas that I cannot grasp. I don't know, but something just draws me to him. He's there but he's not. The ring is getting to him and I'm screaming "NOOOOO!!!"mecry I really can't say any more, except:loveyou: :loveyou: :cuddles:

Frodo's Love
January 7th,2003, 11:32 PM
Arwen Elf, beautifully said! I've just come home from seeing TTT again... and he left me breathless again :loveyou: :cuddles: And he is so unearthly *swoons*

Arwen Elf
January 7th,2003, 11:37 PM
Apparently we both have a desire to violently kiss him (:cuddles: )lol I'm just chock full of hobbit love today!:loveyou:

Frodo's Love
January 7th,2003, 11:40 PM
lol I'm full of hobbit love actually every day :loveyou: Frodo :loveyou: :smooch:

A! Elbereth
January 8th,2003, 05:33 AM
Originally posted by Arwen Elf
I haven't said anything about Frodo in a long time, so I think it is about time to vent!:drool: I think that since I've seen TTT, I've grown very much in love with Frodo, much more so than before. He has a certain je ne sais pas that I cannot grasp. I don't know, but something just draws me to him. He's there but he's not. The ring is getting to him and I'm screaming "NOOOOO!!!"mecry I really can't say any more, except:loveyou: :loveyou: :cuddles:

He's quite a hobbit to leave you without speech, correct? I cannot blame you, for Frodo really is utterly desirable. Just get a 'lovely feather pillow' (;)) and hug it - pretend it's him! (better than wishing, I suppose - if you are as desperate as me, you would do it as well) roflmao

Frodo's Love
January 8th,2003, 11:09 AM
I want to take poor Fro in my arms so badly! One of the scenes in TTT that brings me to tears is the one Gollum bringing the rabbits to Frodo. In the corner of his left eye a tear is blinking when he opens his eyes... mecry
Oh my. I want to hug it away!!!! :(

A! Elbereth
January 8th,2003, 12:52 PM
Oh yes, I mentioned that in another thread. Here's a picture of it.

Frodo tear (http://versaphile.com/caps/ttt/coney/coney08.jpg)

Frodo's Love
January 8th,2003, 01:16 PM
It breaks my heart... just as those new pictures from ROTK... mecry

A! Elbereth
January 8th,2003, 10:35 PM
Often my mind wanders to things that could have gone wrong, like Frodo dying on Mount Doom, or at Shelob's Lair, and it is usually in an unconvenient place where tears are streaming down my cheeks. mecry

Then I think about the Havens! Argh!

By the way, I am making a website called Haven Sent, dedicated to Frodo. It is mostly a story archive, but there are plenty of other things as well. It should be up soon, too! *eee!*

Frodo's Love
January 9th,2003, 07:35 PM
"Haven Sent".. . that' s a wonderful title :thumbs:
Please tell us when you are online :)

legolastheawesome
January 11th,2003, 04:55 PM
are completely adorable, but they seem to be getting bigger, like Gollums

*shudders*
:o

Arwen Elf
January 11th,2003, 05:51 PM
Who DIDN'T cry when they thought that Frodo was dead and that Sam had to carry on?mecry Which brings me to the question, which Frodo do you like better: the one from the movie or the one from tha book. There is a difference.

Tar-Ancalimë
January 11th,2003, 06:38 PM
heehee agreed they are totally awesome (by the way gollum's eyes are ugly) but i think this comment best goes in the frodo thread ...


Arwen Elf i love elijah and his character in the movie, but youre right, there is a difference!

Frodo's Love
January 11th,2003, 07:11 PM
I also love Elijah playing Frodo, he does it wonderfully... and magical! He is absolutely cute by the way... but Frodo in the book is my favourite. His kindness, wiseness, his way to carry his burden... it's simply too much to sum up, even in those wonderful movies... So I go for book-Frodo with the looks Elijah gives to him :loveyou:

A! Elbereth
January 11th,2003, 08:54 PM
I like Frodo in the books the best. I like to read Frodo because there's more to find out. Frodo isn't made as wise in the movie, as he is in the book.

But I must say, that I love how he looks in the movie. So whenever I hear Frodo, I do always think of Movie!Frodo in a physical sense, but I always take his personalities in the book to heart.

TheRingBearer
January 11th,2003, 09:27 PM
I think I get what you mean. For me, when I read the book or parts of it now I always have the image of the movie characters in my head. I think that's why my mum was a little reluctant to see FOTR cause she had had the same image of the characters for years and didn't want them spoiled. But she saw it and loved it so everything worked out fine :)
*sighs* There i'm done lol

A! Elbereth
January 12th,2003, 06:52 AM
*sighs* Yes, I know. It's all I can say.... lol

Eoliah
January 12th,2003, 12:32 PM
Originally posted by Arwen Elf
Who DIDN'T cry when they thought that Frodo was dead and that Sam had to carry on?mecry Which brings me to the question, which Frodo do you like better: the one from the movie or the one from tha book. There is a difference.

Although E. Wood plays wonderfullu Frodo on the screen, I prefer the character in the book. P Jackson has done quite a good work, but tI don't agree with him for he way he emphazises the pains and the drama on the character. I find that in the book, Frodo is less victimized, having more strengh to struggle.
(for example : the trance scene when Frodo did almost give the ring to the nazul. The "Frodo of the book" would have never done such a thing !).

Indeed P. Jackson, has been tempted to make "his" point of wiew of the character, and the ROTK will probably surprize Frodo fans. I read on an interview (in a french mag) that he emphazis a lot the "black" side the ring had on Frodo. Making him almost dead or destructed. Even E. Wood admitted (in an interview) to be amazed and impressed the way the character appeared on the screen. That is to say that P. Jackson will show us a Frodo who had become the shadow of himself. And it's on that point that I DON'T AGREE AT ALL with Jackson. (sorry for the caps, I'm really angry about Jackson to distort so much some sides of the character. Look at what he did about Faramir...).

Yes, Frodo had paid a loud price for his quest, but in the book he managed to get an almost normal life anyway. Yet, he was changed, still suffering, but he wasn't transformed into a kind of "ghost" . :mecry: :mecry: :mecry:

So, Frodo of the book is for me the "real" one... but with the look of the character of the film, which reflect quite his inner beauty.

Tar-Ancalimë
January 12th,2003, 02:59 PM
yes, exactly! the film is just for images, to me the book is really for how the characters are... with the images of the movie!

Togo Bleecker
January 13th,2003, 01:00 AM
i love the way frodo is in the book, and i love they way he is in the movies, i think the only thing i like better in the movies rather then in the books i adore is the relationship between sam and frodo, because peter jackson made it seem more of a loving friend and in the book they are always servant and master. i know thats how tolkien intended it to be and im not knocking it because i love the books i just like the way the movie made sam and frodo better.

Togo Bleecker
January 13th,2003, 01:00 AM
ohh and wow i didnt even notice the tear when gollum brings the rabbits..how sweet!!!!

Tar-Ancalimë
January 13th,2003, 01:03 AM
tear? sweet?

i thought he just looked sleep-deprived, thats the way i look every time i wake up lol

Togo Bleecker
January 13th,2003, 01:06 AM
aww well i was thinking that maybe he thought it was sweet that gollum brought him a present....definantly must of misinterepted that, sleep deprived is probably more accurate my mistake

Tar-Ancalimë
January 13th,2003, 01:17 AM
lol dont listen to me i happen to be prejudiced against gollum and sweet being in the same sentance ;)

Togo Bleecker
January 13th,2003, 12:12 PM
lol well in a very demented way gollum can be sweet, guess im kinda like frodo and bilbo and pity him, espeically after seeing how he is portrayed in the movie

Nessa
January 14th,2003, 01:26 AM
I absolutely took Frodo's attempted smile as sweetness...... trying to encourage Gollum's attempt at goodness even through his disgust..... poor Frodo starts to squirm when he's tearing it. Blech.

I prefer the character of the books as well, PJ has made several directorial decisions that, however much sense they make, hurt how Frodo is percieved, imho. But I also think that Movie Frodo is a lot more than image.... Elijah's very real to me. I look into his eyes and see Frodo there, a character that I cherish, and I am thankful for that.

Togo Bleecker
January 14th,2003, 04:51 AM
here here i agree!!

Frodo's Love
January 14th,2003, 08:23 AM
Frodo's smile at Gollom can simply move me to tears... even if it's sad... even if it shows his endless kindness and his pity on Gollum... mecry

:cuddles: Frodo :cuddles:

And Nessa, I agree with you about PJ's changes in the movie. Although I love the films, I would have liked to see more of Frodo's book-character, which has so much more aspects than are shown in the film. (okay, I know there is but restricted time to put all the scenes into a film) Frodo has got a main-part as the Ringbearer, if not THE main-part. And I don't doubt about Elijah's ability to play that also... it's amazing, but I never doubted for a minute as I saw the films that he IS Frodo, he points him out incredibly real on the screen.

Togo Bleecker
January 14th,2003, 12:56 PM
i must admit now after reading some other opinions that my opinion is a tad bit biased, because to the horror of true tolkien fans out there i saw the movie first so i never really got exposed to book frodo (i love we way we refer to them as book frodo and movie frodo) and my first veiw was of elijah. But hey the one thing i must say about seeing the movie first is it did what peter jackson hoped it would, got many people so wrapped up in the movies they went out and read the books and hey now im obsessed!!

A! Elbereth
January 14th,2003, 10:25 PM
Oh, I saw the movie first as well, but it didn't ruin anything for me. I find that whenever I read LOTR I have to try really hard to make Frodo look like Elijah. Even though I have seen the movie first, I still have this different picture in my head. The blue eyes are always there, though. ;) Reading LOTR a dozen times in 6 months is enough to pound the book image of Frodo into my head...

Movie Frodo seems to be more of a yummy character, while book Frodo tends to be the wise (not to mention, original ;)) character.

I always imagine Frodo writing in the Red book, and having papers lodged everywhere in the study. The cuffs of his sleeves blotted with smudges of ink, and his handwriting strong, yet delicate and unmistakable. I can think of no other way to describe how I think he would smell other than the smell of parchment, ink and pipeweed; all familiar and welcoming smells of Bag End, that I think he left behind when he went over the Sea.

Sorry, I just had to share my vision. ;)

Togo Bleecker
January 15th,2003, 12:20 AM
no dont apologize! your vision is wonderful

Nessa
January 15th,2003, 12:55 AM
*wipes tears*

Wow, El, i literally got all bleary there....... About how he smells... I completely understand! Could I hug you? :grin:

Actually, I saw the movie first as well, and it took me some time to seperate the two Frodos, and I don't know if I've gotten it completely sorted in my head. I see Movie Frodo exactly as Book Frodo, just minus............ Argh, that not right! I mean to say the Frolijah to me is just Book Frodo with the Book Frodo qualities hidden underneath..... Ack! Thats as close to it as I can come right now.

My mental picture of Book Frodo is fairly close to Elijah's Fro, same eyes, hair, stature (except at the beginning when I see him with more pudge ;) ), but I can't help but make him look older.... even if physically speaking he would still be about equivalent to Elijah, its just how my mind works.

A! Elbereth
January 15th,2003, 03:25 AM
Yes, hugs are welcome lol ;)

Well, yes with the hair and eyes etc it is the same, but when I get carried away in my reading, I realize I am not picturing movie Frodo... when I read slow it looks more like Elijah.

(P.S. Lots of Frodo pics from TTT here)
http://versaphile.com/caps/ttt/index.html

Arwen Elf
January 15th,2003, 11:03 PM
Whoa! I just saw the pictures that you mentioned, Elbereth, and I know it sounds stupid, but I went through a variety of emotions. In some pictures he's frightening, in others he's overwhelmingly sad, in others he lokks like a Christ-like martyr. By the way, that's how I imagine Book Frodo, as a martyr, sacrificing himself for the "common good". I think, in certain scenes, Elijah does well in conveying that persona. When I saw the picture of him almost giving up to the Naz-gul, I thought I saw the martyr of Middle Earth.mecry I don't know, catch me if I'm being too sappy.:huh:

Togo Bleecker
January 18th,2003, 04:35 AM
nah your not being sappy, ditto to all the above!

A! Elbereth
January 18th,2003, 05:23 AM
There is clearly no proper word in the english language... no, I correct myself - no proper word in any language to describe him...

Togo Bleecker
January 19th,2003, 01:08 AM
i agree no word can match frodo they can only remarkably get close

Frodo's Love
January 19th,2003, 08:40 AM
yes, it's something amazing around Frodo to be felt, but not to be put into words... that seems to be impossible...
i realize that I also try to decribe it, but I seem not to be able to... but I think you can all understand what I mean?! ;)

A! Elbereth
January 19th,2003, 07:45 PM
I've tried many times to describe it in small vignettes (which I, shamefully regret that I threw out), and even though it is frighteningly close, it isn't close enough. At least we *know* it without the words needing to be said. :loveyou:

Frodo's Love
January 25th,2003, 09:45 PM
???
Where are all of you Frodo-admirers?????
:huh: ;)

Arwen Elf
January 25th,2003, 11:47 PM
YES! Stand up for your hobbit! Do I hear "FRODO"? NO! I DON'T! Say it with me: "frodo, Frodo, FRODO, FRODO!" Can I get an amen here?. . . Maybe not. . . . lol

Togo Bleecker
January 26th,2003, 12:05 AM
AMEN

Eoliah
January 26th,2003, 01:27 AM
Originally posted by Frodo's Love
???
Where are all of you Frodo-admirers?????
:huh: ;)

I'm here !
Frodo can count on me...

Frodo's Love
January 26th,2003, 08:18 AM
Originally posted by Arwen Elf
Can I get an amen here?. . . Maybe not. . . . lol

Of course you can get (another ) one. ;) Here it is:

AMEN
roflmao

:loveyou: FRODO :loveyou:

Togo Bleecker
January 28th,2003, 04:28 AM
you i know i find it so ironic we have no words to describe frodo (i agree...he is rather undescribable) but 17 pages of jabbering about him lol

A! Elbereth
January 28th,2003, 04:40 AM
I find it absolutely believable. You can never run out of things to say about Frodo. He's too versatile.

:loveyou:

I got a nice TTT-Frodo poster yesterday, and my-my does it look lovely on my bedroom wall! :drool: lol

Togo Bleecker
January 28th,2003, 04:42 AM
has the same poster probably on her closet door- my closet is behind my door and my door is often open so everytime i close my door i always seem to forget frodo is there with his staring beautiful creepy at 5 o'clock in the morning eyes