Star wars

[Lord Raistlin]

Do you like Star wars? I like Star wars very much. It is very cool. But I no so like the Star wars 2 - Attack of the Clones. The love part is a bit fake.

Not like Aragorn and Arwen. So real so sweet.

The old star wars is good!

[Belaqua]

I love Star Wars! I'm like a walking SW encyclopaedia! Quite sad really.

[TheRingBearer]

I like the new one (number 2) but the best is definatly the empire strikes back althought the best lightsaber fight is in the phantom menace

[Darth Homer]

The Empire Stirkes Back is by far my favorite. But, I love all of them.

Here are my rankings of the films:

1. The Empire Strikes Back
2. Attack of the Clones
3. The Phantom Menace
4. A New Hope
5. Return of the Jedi

DH...out

[Belaqua]

atotc and tpm sucked! In comparison to the others anyway

[Bonos-Girl]

iuagree...the trilogy is great....but then they did the prequels....why doesn't anyone ever learn that prequels never work?!! :huh:

[Belaqua]

Beacuse they are blinded by the promise of money!

[Sindarin]

I really enjoy Star Wars alot. My favorite SW film is Episode V.

Although I'm in agreement the first two prequels are okay, I still like them just fine. :)

[Lurtz]

actually lord, its episode IV a new hope, not IIII. a new hope is my favorite.

[Lynx]

the original trilogy was the best, its hard to pick which one I liked out of those the best, but I voted for Return of the Jedi because I like the Jabba the Hut scenes, they were awesome.

But I have to say that the best fight between goodguys and badguys was between yoda and count dukoo that was awesome. The only good part in attack of the clones, imo.

[Quickbeam15]

A O T C!

[Tar-Ancalimë]

I love them all to death... I am not so much a Star Wars freak as a LotR freak, but I still love ST.

I voted for the first one (in my book, the first one means the first one made, not chronologically) because when I saw it (I was really young) it totally blew me away. I loved it and I have been faithful to the series ever since... tho you will never hear me say "The last two ST movies sucked" I might add that they weren't quite as good.

[Lord Raistlin]

I am a Star wars and LOTR and Dragonlance freak!!!!! I love tham. I like is Boba Fett!!!! he is so cool!

[Mirkgirl]

I love the old trilogy. Ep 1 was not that bad, but cannot be compared. I haven't seen Ep2 yet.

[Sindarin]

Believe me, you should. :)

[Tar-Ancalimë]

yeah, you should... seriously... it's not as good but it's good :)

[Bonos-Girl]

omg.....someone who hasn't seen all the series!!! episodes 1 and 2 were never gonna be as good really...for one they are prequels...and secondly they don't have harrison ford in them!!

[Little Devil]

Aotc and Tesb are my faves.:)

[Tar-Ancalimë]

harrison ford... :drool: oh man hes the best isnt he?

hmm... someone who likes AotC... cool :thumbs: i guess that's nice to know there are people out there who like it the best... deserves some recognition...

you know what makes me mad? people who saw TPM and then are like "Star Wars sucks!!!" because ST is not all about TPM... *sighs* I just had a loooooooong conversation with someone about that

oh well... its their own loss...

[TheRingBearer]

Episode 3 should be great to wrap it all up and to provide the needed link between the two generations of films. I can't wait to see Anakin fall to the dark side.

[Lord Raistlin]

I can't wait to see Anakin fall to the dark side too. But I want to see more on Obi-wan. He is so cute!

[Little Devil]

Ewan Mcgregor! I like Hyden Christian, he's cute. ;) :loveyou:

[Daisy Gamgee]

I enjoyed both aotc and phantom menace, although preferred aotc. I personally didn't see anything wrong with them, but then i'm not a huge freak (not meant to offend anyone) on the other 3, although i enjoyed them 2. my fav characters are obi wan (Ewan) and Hans Solo:drool:

[Lord Raistlin]

my fav is boba fett, obi-wan and yoda!

[Ronin]

love the SW franchise...with ESB being one of my favorite movies of all time, but honestly, the prequels are nothign but disappointing and seemingly nothing but money makers. i'm thankful, at least, that the direction is slightly changing to the darker side of the universe...and just hoping that in the 3rd prequel, its as dark and terrifying as it should be.

[Bonos-Girl]

i couldn't have put it better myself ronin....to put it bluntly the prequels are **** to say the least.

[Ronin]

well...except for the Hobbit...of course ;)

[Lord Raistlin]

I got the boba Fett autograph!

and guess what I just got

Peter Jacksone Autograpg!

[Bonos-Girl]

omg..how...where??

[Lord Raistlin]

I send a letter to peter jackson by snailmail. and I got two photo him sign and my name is on it.!!!!!!!


I got about 59 autographs.

[TheRingBearer]

I love Natalie Portman. Hubba hubba :grin:

[Ronin]

good Raistlin, we do envy thee! see, thats whats so cool about PJ...he actually takes the time to make fans happy. enjoy the sigs! :grin:

and...who doesn't like Portman? rhetorical question of course ;)

[Catz]

Peter Jackson is still a small town NZ boy at heart....doing what he loves to do....and i get the distinct impression hes rather bemused by all of this.....but hes a lovely guy...i have in fact met him......many years ago for about 5 mins lol lol long before he was famous...
and i think that the Star Wars prequels have proven one point beyond doubt......you can have the best effects in the world and the highest of production values.....but if you dont have heart, you dont have a movie....
:catz:

[Lord Raistlin]

I a,m waitting for Elrond's autograph!

[Ronin]

utterly, without thepassion and love for the material u're trying to relate from page to screen...how could one ever succeed? and i think PJ et al proves that time and time again. and the fact that the most unassuming guys typically handle all the sudden attention and fame without blinking an eye...but with a slight smirk.

[Catz]

it also i think illustrates the dangers of homogenising material for the mass market....PJ makes no bones about the fact that his movies are HIS ME and HIS interpretation of the story....and they have that unified vision very strongly thru them.....whereas the Star Wars prequels seem made by committee....with a bit of everything in them to appeal to the widest possible audience..
i think the courage to make your OWN vision is a part of being a great director.....perhaps Lucas needs to be a bit more hungry? a bit more desperate to make HIS movie....which of course he isnt any more....
Hopefully the last one will be the charm...theres ample opportunity for drama....as to whether or not it will eventuate, or just be watered down for the masses is hard to say
:catz:

[Ronin]

well, personally, Lucas' hunger for his own movie seemed to falter at Return of the Jedi...the Ewoks are still one of the most disgustingly cute things ever created by man ;)
i think there's a great deal of hope (a new hope...haha, bad pun) for the 3rd prequel...that James Earl Jones will be revisting the Vader voice hopefully cements that a little bit. tho u'd like to think that Lucas doesn't want his voice for the cheap fanboy thrill right at the end of the movie...obviously, it will be that...but hopefully something much more resonant and threatening. tons of potential for a dark, hopeless movie...if only Lucas can give us what ANH and ESB were and still are.

a lot of that courage is just that...courage to portray ur own vision, inspite of what the populous thinks it wants and what suits thinks the populous wants. that is, truly, what makes PJ's vision of M-E so fantastic...his and Fran's interpretation and no bones made about it. very, very few filmmakers like that and even fewer have the voice that so many others have.

[Catz]

mmm its courage indeed.....especially in these days of finances ruling the creative process....tho i guess thats the thing......that you do NOT allow it to rule that process....
its such a pity that now he has the chance to make movies with modern tech, that it appears that Lucas has already made his best....and i really wish i didnt keep thinking that the production of these sequels had more to do with cash flow, thn having a story to tell....
i guess if you have to fight for your story, youre that much more committed to it.....if it comes too easy, then it all to quickly degenerates into self indulgence....at least, thats how it looks to me...
:catz:

[Bonos-Girl]

i always wanted one of those ewok flying motorbike things.....i still do!! lol

[Ronin]

does that mean u haven't yet Bonos? :o

well, i think its both...Lucas gets the chance to tell the story that he's been itching to tell for 30 years and he gets to make a whole heckuvalotta cash, along with awing his own kids. nice to have that...but not like he's benefiting the SW universe. one can hope that he redeems himself by the 3rd prequel and abandon everything to simply tell the story...but sad to say, not sure it'll ever happen. he likes the dark forces way too much ;)

[Catz]

Ahhhh so the rumours are true!!!:elfeek: ;)
George Lucas is in fact the dark lord Darth Braindead!!!:o....luring the innocent to the dark side by boring them into insensibility first.....
explains a lot you know....:rolleyes: :naughty: lol
:catz:

[Ronin]

lol ....and i thought the fanboys were rough!! :elfeek: :naughty: ;)

[Catz]

you should know better ;) :fanboy: lol
hey its just a theory....you must admit it has more than a little accuracy:rolleyes: lol
:catz:

[Tar-Ancalimë]

no actually catz :grin: i dont admit it...

I am a die-hard SW fan and nothing will seperate me any my love of and loyalty to ST!!

:elfqueen:

j/k (mostly)

[Catz]

yeah....well, i was, up till the "prequels"...and i know a lot of people whove turned off the franchise now, or who reserve their affection for the original trilogy....
which is quite sad.....they could have been great, they are adequate...mostly......heheheh
:catz:

[Tar-Ancalimë]

well fine then! :battle: deserter!!

KIDDING! :grin: just cause I love SW... yes even the prequels... doesn't mean i will hate you for not loving them... i know a lot of those people too, but most of my friends love them as much if not more than I do. Yes even the prequels. I remember when AoTC came out, there were thirteen of us... I didn't know everyone but that didn't matter... we went to the midnight showing... then again at 6 pm... then again at 11 pm! in the same day! it was the funnest day... and I am consistently loyal... even tho I think the prequels are not as good, I still think they are good.

[Ronin]

and now the polar opposite of fanism...adequate, such a "nice" for the context ;)
personally, the prequels don't diminish what the original trilogy gave and still give fans...yet only a reminder to what is a sad continuance and degredation from Return of the Jedi. hope for the third, but not much...Bad Lucas, Bad! pfbbt

[Ronin]

i saw FOTR thrice on opening day...now that was the coolest day i've ever spent at the movies :grin:
i don't really think its a question of loyalty to SW. if anything, one would've hoped that Lucas had some loyalty to the fans so as give us the space opera saga that we had all been dreaming about...instead of succumbing to big money. the SW movies aren't just movies...and u can't say AOTC is just a good movie, its judged on whether or not it can hold up to the original trilogy...in no way can it. AOTC and TPM are cultural pieces that will fade away quicker than the film they are printed on.

[Catz]

lol hes such a fanboylol
i have to agree that Lucas showed a blatent disregard for the fans that had made his prequels possible...and yeah loyalty is one thing...but flogging a dead horse is another....Star Wars will still be being loved and wached when its 50 years old.....pity you cant say the same for the prequels...tho the last one may be better......im not holding my breath, but ill wait and see...
:catz:

[Tar-Ancalimë]

actually Ronin, I can say AotC "is just a good movie" w/out comparing it to the originals... and I do :)

I was joking about the loyalty thing... I'm sorry my jokes are so stupid lol

[Catz]

he has a point tho.....its hard to take AOTC on its merits(and i have to be honest here and admit that i dont think it has that many lol ) when there is the original to compare it to, and i cant help but compare them and im sure many others do too....and they (the prequels)come up so damn hollow and souless in that comparison....but yeah, its a matter of taste and personal bent (and while i may not be entirely bent i definitely have a skewed outlook lol)
:catz:

[Ilmarë]

Originally posted by Ronin
[AOTC and TPM are cultural pieces that will fade away quicker than the film they are printed on. [/B]

Yeah, i would definitely agree with that. The original trilogy is fantastic.... but AoTC and TPM were ....adequate at best. I never watch the video of TPM any more... just can't bear it... especially Jar-Jar Binks.
Oh... by the way, sweetie.... you double posted..... naughty fanboy!!!!:fanboy::nono:..careful in future.. or you shall be severely chastised....:elfeek: .. thanks hon.:wicked: :cuddles:

[Catz]

ahhh well i was gonna deal with that (and it was done when i wasnt avaliable)....but ill leave it now.....id hate to see all those smilies go to waste:rolleyes: lol
and the only chastising in here will be done by moi, if and when i feel the need.....heheheh dontcha looove power?? lol lol
just money talking with the franchise i feel...but then its amazing.....find the right trigger and you can get just about anyone to betray anything.....you just need to find the key that pushes their buttons....and i think in this case Lucas took the dosh over the story, mores the pity....
:catz:

[Ilmarë]

Hey... no problem Catz... it was my pleasure to help out a bit.:thumbs: .... and yeah, it would be a shame to see the smilies go... they're cute.
Us mods keep a watchful eye out across each others threads and forums.... chastisement is a perk of the job... especially with fan boys;) lol

[Catz]

well, its my job to look out across the forums actually lol and thanks, but i think i can handle it:rolleyes: lol you guys have your hands full with the armies after all;) lol
anyway....ill be interested to see if the final prequel can manage to salvage some sort of legitimacy....it should be dark.....the question is.......will it be dark enough? will Lucas have the courage to go all out? or will it be toned down for the mass market?....we shall see.....
:catz:

[Ronin]

i swear...will i ever get away from the whipping!!?? :elfeek: :naughty:

well, of course u can Tar...doesn't mean its right tho ;) nah...but i really can't think of AOTC nor TPM as movies simply by themselves. they are prequels to one of the greatest series of movies created...so they should be judged...and so they have fallen because they cannot compare on iota.

tho i fully admit i am a fanboy lol :gofatty:

and completely agree, just hope the 3rd prequel is as dark as it should be...i mean, the Empire is taking over...everything falls apart...Padme should die (should, but it won't happen) and hope is all but lost. i just fear that what was done to tone down the destruction of the Tusken village will be done with the 3rd movie...hmmmm....inquiring minds want to know :rolleyes: ;)

[Belaqua]

I just don't think they captured the same feel with the new films. I saw ROTJ first, so for me, that will always be the best

[Ronin]

then u should've seen ESB first...by far the best, in my very humble opinion of course ;)

[Belaqua]

esb is v.good and i really do like it, but rotj i just love. After i first saw it i watched it over and over for a week afterwards. Just realised that i really am quite sad! I seriously don't think that anyone can beat me in SW fandom here. Someone said something bout the prequels being souless and hollow. Word to whoever said it. Even Qui Gon croaking seemed... off. And Jar Jar, only one word for that...ACK! Oh my God, you killed Star Wars! Ahem

[Catz]

dya really think theyd be daft enough not to kill her character off?? after all its a big part of the set up to the original movies....one of the big motivational pushes....
then again....this is the man who created Jar Jar....Lucas...upon youre own head be it!!!
:catz:

[Belaqua]

I take it we're talking about the log here? Nah, they won't kill her off, wouldn't be surprised if they had her going off to some remote corner of the galaxy and not dying when the twins were young like Leia said. Does anyone read the novels? Or is it just me thats that sad?

[Tar-Ancalimë]

lol I have to admit I will be pretty furious if Padme doesn't die... I mean, come on! I haven't read the novels, Bel. Can anyone tell me how she's supposed to die?

[Belaqua]

no idea whatsoever. But she has to die in the film! Lucas can't let her off the hook! No! Its not allowed!

[Ronin]

ach, but u're right..from the man who gave us Jar Jar...i wouldn't doubt that he would try and end the movie on a "happy" note by allowing Padme to just float off into the sunset...argh...i hope not!!

[Little Devil]

That'll be weird......

[Catz]

it would be weird..........it would be a cop out......but it would be a hoppy ending....and we all know how fond Hollywood is of "happy endings"......and i dont really know if Lucas cares enough about his movies to fight it.....i hope so....but....theres always JJB.........
:catz:

[Ronin]

ever heard of Damn Nation's "Jar Jar Binks Must Die"?? bloody great song :grin:

[Lord Raistlin]

Jar Jar Binks is nuts

[Belaqua]

Jar Jar is without a doubt the most annoying and awful Star Wars character in the whole series. I think they tried to make a 3PO style sidekick but it failed and there is a song about Jar Jar? You have to be kidding me!

[Adunauriel]

:cool: I like all the Star Wars movies, but I'm not a Junkie. I agree that the Love stuff in Episode II was a bit over done. I also think thou that it was required, but maybe just a little too mushy.
I liked the fact that Jar Jar wasn't in Episode II very much. He's a bit anoying

[Catz]

heheheh you have to love those sentiments "JJB must die".......its just gotta be good, y'know? lol lol
and yeah ive heard of it, ive just never actually heard it.....mainly cos any mention of the revolting lop eared monstrosity tends to make me homicidal:rolleyes: lol roflmao lol
:catz:

[Ronin]

well, the fact that the actual song is about commiting the homicide of the long eared freak of nature...tends to lessen the shock of hearing JJ's name over and over. love the song :grin: lol

[Daisy Gamgee]

A Jar Jar song??roflmao
I must admit, I thought he was kinda funny, for like the first 10 minutes or so....

Has anyone read the books? Are they worth a read?

[Belaqua]

Yeah, the books are good if you like sci-fi. There are an awful lot of them, so its better to borrow them than buy them

[Adunauriel]

Or you could try Used book Stores if there are any in your area. You would probably find them pretty cheap.

[Ronin]

a great song, very ubber cool :grin:

hmmm...never really interested in the books, rather let my imagination take over where i'm the main character ;) lol

[Catz]

Hmm.....*moves away from Ronin.......just in case...... * :rolleyes: lol
ive read one or two of the tie ins to SW and i have to say the quality is really variable, as is often the case with tie ins....but ive found some of them id read as novels happily and others that were a waste of the paper they were printed on......kind of the luck of the draw i think....
:catz:

[Adunauriel]

:) I think that's true of most kinds of books. Some are great like "I'm sure everyone here will agree" The Lord of the Ring trilogy. And some others are a waste of paper as you put it Catz. I always hope thou that whenever I pick one up to buy that it will be a good one. if not then that's why I like Used book stores. Cause I can just get rid of it and get somthing else in return.:grin:

[Darkjedi]

I love them all, you should put that in your poll. I went with RoTJ for my favorite.

[Aerandir]

I like um all, but I said 6 (ROTJ)

~Aerandir

[Ronin]

i still say ESB! :grin:

*stands with hands on hips*...what've i done now?? :rolleyes:

ach yeah, right there teddy...such the same with every books. there are utter classics, the words themselves worthy of any penning...and then others...more useful for fuel for the fire. lol...i actually did that once :grin: lol

[Catz]

nothing.......*looks innocent and wide eyed as only a kitten can*.....did i say anything???;)
just staying out of the way in case you decide to start "letting your imagination take over"....those plastic light sabres pack a whallop!!:naughty: lol :p
*gasps* and you ................burned a book ?????? you heretic you!!!! what was it?...(i have to admit....i have been tempted):elfeek: lol

[Ilmarë]

Nah... ESB is THE ultimate Star Wars film... an absolute classic.... found ROTJ a li'l bit cheesy to be honest.lol

:thumbs: YAY!!! plastic light sabres at dawn.. i'm into that... mine makes all the sounds too;) lol

As for book burning... depends whether or not we're talking multiple copies of "Moonfleet" or notpfbbt

[Catz]

hmmm i cant decide between SW and ESB..the first one just has such a sweet almost naive quality...and after all it was our first taste of the SW universe....and ESB.....well it IS the best in terms of plot and development......
i caNOT burn a book...not even a trashed out old one.....im terrible lol lol
:catz:

[Adunauriel]

I too will say ESB is my fave..... Agree with Catz about the nieve quality of the Original SW. Love it too...Gotta say thou I love the Ewoks.

Never burned a book, but have read some that are burn worthy.:thumbs:

[Ronin]

absolutely tho, there is the greatest tie up between ESB and ANH...that naive quality, as u say, its just wonderful. ESB, for filmmatic reasons, is one of my favorite movies of all time...yet ANH really did begin everything, that simply cannot be denied.

and aye....burned a book did i!! actually, i only burned the corner edge of it...couldn't bring myself to go through with it :rolleyes: lol

[Belaqua]

I still say that Rotj is the best. Yes, it is cheesy, but its cheerful and sweet. I like ESB better than SW, which didn't impress me as much as the other two because it doesn't have the same level of character interaction as the other two. You burned a book!? Wow. I don't think i've ever wanted to do that. Oh wait...Moonfleet. Awful book and boring as hell, but i couldn't damage it cause it was a school book. Damn english teacher. I don't get why she made us read it when she clearly had better taste than that. Later on in the year we read Lotr, but only got up to the part at Bree.

[Ilmarë]

Yup bel... Moonfleet.. just awful.... tho i wouldn't ever burn a book... no matter how bad it was.

The only thing i can really remember about Moonfleet now was when the teacher made people in the class read sections out aloud... and one guy in the class described someone as "warming his hands on the brasierre".... lol roflmao roflmao

[Ronin]

ach...i only burnt the edge! nomatter how much i loathed it, couldn't bring myself to consume the whole thing!! lol :rolleyes:

[Catz]

WHEW!!! somehow i didnt have you pegged as the book burning typelol lol
God i cant even burn old NGs...hehehe i end up reading em;)
i think all of the original movies have a heart and charm that makes it hard to pick a favourite...something sadly lacking in the prequels...
:catz:

[Ronin]

lol...well, glad to remain consistent. :grin:...after all, words on pages...can at least appreciate that, even if the words are loathsome :rolleyes:

[Belaqua]

I'm not quite sure what it is that makes the prequels so...off. It has to be the acting. is it just me or is Natalie Portman a log? I mean, she really is wooden. There was just no chemistry between her and Hayden at all.

[Bonos-Girl]

i noticed that too.....a magazine put in an interview with hadyn that they had a real chemistry but i couldn't see it at all.....it was cool though.

[Belaqua]

WHAT! Somebody thought that they had chemistry?! you mean twiggy and the plank? Was that person blind? Did they watch the same movie? Sorry about the rant, but the new films have just killed my hopes for SW completely.

[A! Elbereth]

I liked the old Star Wars as well :grin:

[Ilmarë]

:elfeek: Sorry but Natalie Portman doesn't even have the presence of a log...... more like a twig.lol lol

[Ronin]

yes....decrying SW once again, i love it!! :grin:

Natalie Portman...was perfect in TPM because of how distant she could be, now this...just not working at all when its her passions that spell doom for the universe...i mean, really, lets let go a wee bit ;) lol

[Catz]

Portman is a good actress tho....normally....so i cant help wondering if its a directing problem or perhaps the editing....bad editing has killed many a fine performance......or maybe that young HC has all the charm of a day old dead fish *hides behind the couch* sorry but he really has no presence at all does he? but then again in this neither does she.....:huh: lol
yeah too long building up the sense of her control, and then expecting it to be believable that it would just break down like that......without any prior glimpse of the fire that would make that possible.....Lucas does not do love very well does he?
:catz:

[Adunauriel]

Yea, I personally would blame the lack of emotion in the "love" on GL. To me it seem like how a guy would write about love. Over done when it doesn't need to be, and not done enough when it should be.;)

I think Natalie's a great actress. She was wonderful in Where the Heart Is.

[A! Elbereth]

Well, I just won the Spiderman DVD and the Star Wars Episode II DVD on trekstopdvd.com - Isnt that interesting now? Figures I win this instead of the FOTR DVD in August...

[Bonos-Girl]

i've never seen any other natalie portman films (i don't think) so i can't really comme nt on wether it was good or bad in sw.

[Ilmarë]

pfbbt Portman is an ok actress... and in these films she's just way out of her depth. She's shared the SW screen time with fine actors...and has been proven lacking. She got away with it more in TPM... because of the whole Padme/QA thing. She wasn't helped by HC tho.... serious miscasting going on there.... absolutely NO chemistry whatsoever.... no passion. They were embarrassing!!! Lichen has more charisma than the two of them put together.

[Ronin]

lol....lichen, now i love that analogy. and have to agree Hayden, while i love the name, has some serious growing to do in terms of maturity as an actor. now while there were some serious and very obvious conflicts of chemistry between the stone and the stick (lol) - Hayden, i thought, had momentsof brilliance as Anakin...tho it was only for a few seconds, that brief flash of his eyes...or the timber of his voice. was perfect...in just that brief flash.

and Portman...admittedly i haven't seen much of her work besides SW...she has her moments, but - her break into passion was much too abrupt. Lucas has failed once again...first with the cuddly ewoks, and then, and then, and then :rolleyes: lol

[Ilmarë]

Yeah.. i agree with you there. HC did have the occasional second or so of brilliance.. but when you consider the importance of the character... Anakin's descent into the Dark Side...GL has a lot of apologising to do for that casting descision, that's all i'm saying.lol .. a lot of apologising to do.. period... especially for Jar Jar Binks!pfbbt verymad

[TheRingBearer]

Return of the Jedi is on tonight :thumbs:
8:00 on ITV for those in Britain.

[Little Devil]

It was very good! ;) I like those fuzzy furry things (no idea what they're called) there cute!

[TheRingBearer]

EWOKS!! They're the best :grin:

[Ilmarë]

Ewoks!! ... ewww... their glassy little eyes freak me out:elfeek:

[Catz]

ewoks are definitvely the spawn of satan:o ;) lol
:catz:

[Adunauriel]

I'm with Bearer, & L/D. I loved the Ewoks. There too cute.:)

[Belaqua]

Lucas can do love some of the time. After all, Han and Leia were good. Hayden was so-so. As for the Ewoks, i'm not sure whether they deserve a rant or not. Admittedly, their pathetic stone clubs would have done nothing against stormie armour, but they do have their moments

[Bonos-Girl]

ewoks are soooo cute..they're all furry and fluffy...and they have cool flying motorbike thingeys!!!

[Catz]

no.....the speeder bikes were the Storm Troopers....the ewoks *shudders* were stone age......
how can ANYone LIKE those teddybears from HELL?????:elfeek: :o :elfeek: :rolleyes:
lol lol
:catz:

[Ronin]

the one and only reason that there is a reason to like Ewoks is that fact that they took some intiative against Storm Troopers. apart from that...curse Lucas for ever thinking them up...to think they were only created for the pleasure of his children...its...its...its unnatural!!!! :elfeek:

so says ronin :rolleyes: lol

[Catz]

*catz tries to think of a polite way of putting what she wants to say......*
its no good.....this is too sick, even for me.......*shudders violently* EWOKS!!!!!!!! Urrrrrrrggggghhhhhhhhhh
:catz:

[Ronin]

i think we've come to the conclusion...sacchrine in Star Wars BAD!! ;) :rolleyes: lol

[Ilmarë]

Absolutely...pfbbt .. *still shuddering at the thought of the glassy - eyed little freaks*.... the stripey ones are the worst, y'knowlol

[Ronin]

and they were supposed to be the barbarians!! the ones with skulls wrapped around their necks...even they were cute!!! ;)

[Ilmarë]

They were just double freaky... kinda like hairy mint humbugs... with attitude!

[Catz]

weeeeell..........Lucas WAS going for the dichotomy between thier appearance and the danger that they posed.....unfortunately what it came off as, is an episode of "when teddybears attack"......uggggghhhh
tho he got one thing right i guess.....i know several peeps who think that the ewoks are the scariest thing in SW :rolleyes: lol
:catz:

[Ronin]

lol...please, please don't tell me u just used the word peeps...lol :rolleyes: ;)

Lucas and his attempts at dichotomy...well, they don't have the greatest track record together.

[Catz]

awwww gimme a break herepfbbt
ive got heaps of forums to keep an eye on, allow me the odd slip into pop culture:rolleyes: lol roflmao lol
mmmm Lucas doesnt do subtle too well really, does he?
:catz:

[Ronin]

buts it U slipping into pop culture...american pop culture even!! its just so not cool lol :rolleyes:

no...i think he can't because of that beard and those blasted plaids...effects him.

[Catz]

i shall attempt to avoid any further steps onto the slippery slope that is US pop culture thenlol, as it disturbs you so much.....dont say i never do anything for ya :rolleyes:lol
ahhhh plaid irradiation....that explains a lot:o lol ;)
Lucas is at his best doing slam bang comic book space opera....he falls over his own pretentions the minute he tries for subtlety......stick to what youre good at mr Lucas!!! lol
:catz:

[Ilmarë]

lol Wearing plaid and trying to be subtle... that's definitely where he's going wrong. Such a contradiction... no wonder he falls flat on his face when trying for subtlety.lol

[Ronin]

why thank u dear kitty, that is rather...helpful :rolleyes: lol

u know, both of ya are right...Lucas is the master of the obvious, handling the romance of Leia and Han well because it was just that...obvious. ech...he ain't one for art house flicks, thats for sure ;)

[Catz]

well not unless they do one about plaid:rolleyes: lol
:catz:

[Ilmarë]

lol Can just see it.... "Star Wars... A New Plaid".... maybe he should have a go at thatlol

[Ronin]

lol...now thats a funny one, plaid...its just another way to bleed the masses ;) :rolleyes:

[Little Devil]

hehe. lol

[Ilmarë]

lol...now thats a funny one, plaid...its just another way to bleed the masses ;) :rolleyes:

:elfeek: Now that's a scary thought... world domination in the form of plaid...Tho..just think... stormtroopers in natty little plaid outfits... lightsabres with plaid beams...:elfeek:

[Catz]

EEEEEEEEEK!!! "the plaid be with you"
"the plaid is strong in this one"
worse still..........
"use the plaid Luke!!"
"i have a very bad plaid about this"
aaaarrrrrggghhhh........
*catz runs away to wash her brain out*
:catz:

[Ilmarë]

lol lol lol roflmao roflmao roflmao lol lol lol

[TheRingBearer]

I got the episode 2 dvd the other day :thumbs:

Its got some great special features and of course the film is good ;)

[Ilmarë]

lol " I cannot teach him.... the boy has no plaid"
" Look at me. Judge me by my plaid do you?"
Ah... gotta love Yodalol lol :cool:

[Aerandir]

I'm Yoooda, I'm a sollldier!

~Aera

[Ronin]

mmmm....Who Da Man? Yoda Da Man!! pfbbt

[Ilmarë]

:elfeek: :rolleyes: Ummm... okay... *sidles slowly away from Ronin as quietly as possible*.. U really worry me sometimes.... and i mean really ;) lol :trout: .... maybe that'll knock some sense back into you;) lol lol

[Ronin]

oh u just try it Ilm...lol...:rolleyes:

actually that was the tag line for a recent commericial here in the states for the Star Wars Ep. II dvd...isn't that frightening?! pfbbt

[Catz]

Ummmm........in a word.........
YES!!!
:elfeek: :o :o :o :elfeek:
:catz:

[Ilmarë]

lol TRY it?... I thought i already had honey... and pretty darn successfully too, I might add;) lol .... but just incase....:trout:

[Ronin]

*laughs...trying to look hurt...for at least her sake* lol...;)

believe me kitty, even worse seeing it!!! horrible!!!!!! pfbbt!!!!!!
ewwwwwwww :elfeek:

[Catz]

Awwww i feel for ya sweety...............:smooch: lol
no, really ...........i DO..........:rolleyes: ;) lol roflmao
:catz:

[Ilmarë]

Originally posted by Ronin
[B]*laughs...trying to look hurt...for at least her sake* lol...;)

:nono: Laugh now... but you know you're SO gonna pay for that... later;) lol

[Darth Saruman]

I am such a Star Wars defender, and will go to the grave believing that movies like Lord of the Rings would not have been as great as they are if it weren't for George Lucas.

Although i'll admit FotR was a better movie(i.e. acting, script) than all the Star Wars movies...i still would take the Star Wars saga to a desert island over the LotR trilogy.

It just means more to me....(i also realize i would need a tv and electricity on that desert island.)

[Ronin]

I'm sorry, i really have to point this out...the Star Wars Trilogy was George Lucas' Lord of the Rings. He could not purchase the rights to Tolkien's namesake...as was the case for the Hobbit and subsequently Willow.

u would not have Star Wars without the Lord of the Rings ;)

[Catz]

Agreed Ronin........and actually most people who loved FOTR LOVED Lucas' trilogy too..........its just like many of them.......i think he should have stuck with a trilogy...these prequels have, rather than adding to the wonder of the originals, tarnished them by association......and i think thats very sad........
Loved the originals..........truely dislike the prequels.......
:catz:

[Ilmarë]

:thumbs: agree... absolutely.. tho' don't know about tarnishing the originals... for me, they will always be head and shoulders above these prequels.

[Ronin]

yeah, don't know if i could go so far as to say the prequels tarnish the granduer of the trilogy...just, lessens the magic as Lucas tries to extend it in all directions.

ech...should have never have done...or at least, should have never written the scripts himself ;)

[Ilmarë]

:elfeek: OMG... I find myself about to agree with you again Ronin... wait a minute..*Ilm runs out ... then back in with an extra large trout... wallops herself with it...:trout: ... then waits a few seconds*
Nope.. its no good... i do agree with you.lol lol ... you must be doing some weird mind control thingy!!;) lol lol roflmao

[Catz]

picky pickylol.....thats what i meant really anyway.......the thing is i cant think of StarWars now without that damned Binks thing intruding.......misbegotten offspring of lucas and a PC that it is!!!:o lol ......not that i enjoy the originals any less
:catz:

[Ilmarë]

verymad Binks... wouldn't ya just like to travel back in time and erase him from the hard drive of Lucas' pc and memory??? I hate Binks pfbbt pfbbt pfbbt

[Polly Sandybanks]

What's so terrible about Binks? I like him. :)
I like all of the movies, by the way, though I think I prefer the original trilogy. I wish they'd release it again as a DVD box or something. :)

[Ilmarë]

pfbbt Binks... YUK!!lol
George Lucas has already said he won't be releasing the originals on dvd until he's finished with the last of the prequels... so we have to wait for a few more years, Polly!

[Cuiel Rilwen]

I belong to the first Star Wars generation, and I still love it! Remember standing in a very long line for tickets at the first one, and having a great crush on both Mark Hamil and Harrison Ford for weeks afterwards!:grin:

[Ilmarë]

:thumbs: Yay!! Me too Cuiel!! Absolutely besotted with harrison Ford the first time I laid eyes on him!lol

[Wilwarin]

Binks is my nick name. I have several friends who call me that all the time (probable because I used to always quote him) I don't hate him, but I do agree that he's not the BEST character. And I'm glad he isn't in AOTC very much.

Gosh! I read you're posts and it sounded like you were talking about me! :grin: I'm glad your not though.

[Little Devil]

hehe....Binks is cool, I like him but he does tend to be quite annoying after a while. ;)

[Catz]

lol a BIT??????........id hate to see what you thought a LOT annoying is:elfeek: ;) lol
:catz:

[Wilwarin]

You can't deny that he is one of the best CG characters ever created though, can you? (I'm not comparing him with Gollum yet, as I have not seen enough of him to make a jugement).

[Catz]

ummm yeah.....i can lol........i just thought the character as a whole was a mistake, never mind the CG aspects.......the bumbling sidekick schtick is a bit........old ......plus the fact that i dont find "how wuuuude!!!" to be particularly funny.
And the CG was also not the greatest.....the colour match was bad in places and the lighting not consistant, nor was the movement of the ears, or whatever they were........just not a good idea all up imo......*shrugs*
:catz:

[Ruthiel]

Just to let you know Lord Raistlin, 4 in roman nuerals is IV, not IIII. It goes
1- I 2 - II 3 - III 4 - IV 5 - V 6 - VI 7 - VII 8 - VIII 9 - IX 10 - X

Just trying to be helpful! I love StarWars though. It rocks!

:elfqueen:

[Ronin]

yeah, have to agree with catz here, sure...Lucas' CGI with Jar Jar may have been somewhat seamless (i still have issues with how ill-placed he is within the environment) - but the character itself, which is the judge of all things...was PATHETIC. that is the level by which Binks is measured, and thats it.

[Idaila]

I love starwars it is a very nice movie. But i really don't like to read the books their not really that great it i soooo much better to watch the moives.

[Bena]

I'm what you'd call a Star Wars purist. As LOTR purists are those people who believe in the original story, or Tolkien's books, Star Wars purists believe the original story, Lucas' films. I don't read the Star Wars books, I don't know why, I just never wanted to leave the universe far, far away that I fell in love with. I love the Star Wars films, I always will, yet I fear they're losing their rank as #1 in my heart with Peter Jackson creating such incredible films.

[Ilmarë]

Originally posted by Ronin ]yeah, have to agree with catz here

NO!! You DO surprise me!!;) lol lol lol
I can understand why you feel that way Bena.. about the first 3 films... these last 2 prequels... just not a patch on the original trilogy IMHO.

[Cuiel Rilwen]

I totally agree, although they're good, they are lacking something compared to the old ones...maybe its humor, maybe its Han Solo!:grin:

[Bena]

It is Han Solo! That's it, the missing piece to the puzzle that is the prequels. We need the smooth, yet shady character-a bad guy who you just can't help but love. Lucas tried to do this with Anakin, but it's just not the same when it's a teenager, and especially not when it's a Jedi. Jedi are supposed to be the honroable sheriffs, but it's the lone guns, like Solo, who actually make the wild west, or the universe in this case, fun.
(Hope I didn't use too many metaphors in this post!:))

[Cuiel Rilwen]

Oh, yeah thats the terrible fact of life! We love the naughty guys!:naughty: lol

[Ilmarë]

lol At least u know what you're dealing with in a naughty guy... its the quiet ones you really have to look out for;) lol

[Cuiel Rilwen]

Still waters have the greatest depth, eh? You sure are right about that!;)

[Querarien]

in order:

Return of the Jedi (close thing)
Attack of the Clones
A New Hope
The Empire Strikes Back
The Phantom Menace

Phantom Menace is just abomination of all things Star Wars, although Lucas is of course forgiven as he gave us AOTC, reason I like AOTC and ROTJ is mainly for the character chemistry, which I think was lacking in some of the others.

[Ronin]

*looks baffled*....u would consider AOTC and ROTJ the better of Empire Strikes Back?

[Catz]

lol now youve done it Querarien......tho i cant believe youve got AOTC second up :o lol
:catz:

[Gwaihir]

I marked The Return of the Jedi but I actually like all of the Star Wars Trilogy. Episode I and II are too different from the old ones. Especially II because it overuses CG. And the romance is not well done. Anakin is sooo uncool and stupid!!

[Ronin]

Its not that its just different from the old series....its just....BAD

[Pinklotus]

I like the "old" Star Wars Triology ... they had Heart ... the new ones are nice but .... they are frail .... in 20 years you will still talk about the "old" triology and then you will laugh about the "newer" one

[Ronin]

the new ones aren't even "nice".....like on old, frail woman who just fell down the steps of the empire state building.....bad ;)

[Pinklotus]

Originally posted by Ronin
the new ones aren't even "nice".....like on old, frail woman who just fell down the steps of the empire state building.....bad ;)

pitiful ?

[Ilmarë]

*looks bewlidered at Ronin* ... WHAT?????

[Cuiel Rilwen]

hearnoevil

[Catz]

lol couldnt have put it better myself.......and i know what you mean Ronin, tho it think its more like a faded old tart wearing waaaaaay too much make up hon ;)
:catz:

[Ronin]

roflmao...perfectly said....thats just too good ;) lol

[Daughter of Gondor]

Attack of the Clones

Yoda fights
Blackmail, prisoners, love, deception
Who wouldn't love it?

[Ilmarë]

Me! And that wasn't Yoda... it was some cgi imposter!!

[Daughter of Gondor]

Whatever thou sayest

[Ilmarë]

lol Just my humble opinion, Bow!!

[Daughter of Gondor]

I'm not saying anything! Honestly, you have a right to your opinion and I have a right to not agree with it.

[Ilmarë]

Absolutely... t'would be a very boring place if we agreed all the time...:grin:

[Daughter of Gondor]

Now that is something that I agree with.

[Rumil]

Originally posted by Catz
.......the thing is i cant think of StarWars now without that damned Binks thing intruding.......misbegotten offspring of lucas and a PC that it is!!!:o lol ......not that i enjoy the originals any less
:catz:

lol very true. I consider it a great shame that Binks wasn't put to bed with a nasty computer virus. BTW has everyone seen the Jar-Jaromir skit. It is on humour (i think) check it out - it's fab!!! (and you can quote me on that one)

[P.K. Brandybuck]

I grew up with Star wars and I have to say the newer movies seem empty comparably.

[Tinong]

this thread is sooooo great! :fanboy: my god! look at that! thats not right, smiles shouldn't do that!! like i was saying, Im sure one day about 20 yrs later we'll be sitting around and see an advertisement for the hobbit or the Silmarillion. its destined when a movie gets that big, to make "prequels" but really who actually believes he always planned to make more?

[Ronin]

Bow, there's good taste and bad...and i'm sorry, watching a classic puppet turned into a bouncing monkey is just not good taste ;) lol

considering lucas planned 6 more instead of 3...i'd say he certainly wanted to make more

and only if the rights for the hobbit and the sil are bought

[Catz]

monkey? i thought he looked like a flea myself.......boing.......boing......boing,boing... .....boing..........roflmao
yeah and i see the fact that Lucas decided to stick with three as definitive proof of the existance of the divine:rolleyes: roflmao
:catz:

[Ilmarë]

Amen to that