Harry Potter

[White Lady of Rohan]

Maybe Snape will start spying for both sides. :huh:

[Eowyn]

I'm sure I read somewhere that Dumbledore is 150... or something like that oh found it the lexicon have got his birthday as 1840 hmmm...
http://www.hp-lexicon.org/wizards/dumbledore.html

Linya I completely agree with that statement oh and thanks for the links :thumbs:

Just out of interest what house would everyone here be in? I've done loads of quizzes and they all put me in Slytherin :naughty: well I've definately got the best head of house lol

[Mánalinya]

I'm a Slytherin, too. Definately the place to be ;).

[Eowyn]

Do quizzes put you in there Linya? because i haven't found anyone else that gets put in there by answering honestly.

[Mirkgirl]

taken that I'm ready to do about anything BUT write my german HW I went and took this quiz (http://www.thealmightyguru.com/Reviews/HarryPotter/Docs/Quiz-House.html) (being the first google hit and looking ok) and I got to be a Slytherin

[Mánalinya]

Yup, according to the quizzes, I am a true Slytherin, hehe. I actually was quite surprised the first time I was sorted into there, but it's happened a few times now, with different quizzes, so I guess it wasn't a mistake :huh:. But I don't mind :grin:.

[Elijah's Girl]

I took the quiz and I came out to be a hufflepuff Your in-depth results are:
Hufflepuff - 17
Ravenclaw - 11
Gryffindor - 9
Slytherin - 7
and then I took another quiz and it put me in Ravenclaw.....I am confused lol

[Eowyn]

oooh a Hufflepuff, don't see many of them.
I'm just glad I've got Mirky and Linya in the same house as me :grin:

[Ranewen]

Here are mine:
Ravenclaw - 15
Hufflepuff - 14
Gryffindor - 9
Slytherin - 6

Every time I take it I get Ravenclaw or Hufflepuff. :p

[Gwaihir]

Mine turned out like this:

Hufflepuff - 15
Ravenclaw - 15
Gryffindor - 9
Slytherin - 6

But I don't know much about any of these! lol

[Miriel Baggins]

Hufflepuff - 14
Gryffindor - 12
Ravenclaw - 12
Slytherin - 6

Weird. I don't know how accurate this test thingy is: loyal, dependable, hardworking? I don't know. I guess maybe so. But the descriptions for all the other probably fit me, too, in a way. :huh: Oh well. :) I'm a Hufflepuff. lol

[Eowyn]

There seems to be quite a few Hufflepuff's :huh:
my results for the quiz.
Slytherin - 13
Ravenclaw - 9
Hufflepuff - 8
Gryffindor - 7

hmmmm... what a surprise. lol but the thing is I wouldn't consider myself as determined... suppose I can be if motivated to though. :huh: although gryffindor last makes sense because I'm a coward lol

[Mirkgirl]

Well my detailed are:

Slytherin - 14
Ravenclaw - 11
Gryffindor - 10
Hufflepuff - 8

I'm deff not hardworking... didn't need a test to tell me that really.

[Ithildiel Noldoran]

A Question, seeing as this thread is about Harry Potter!! ;) Does anyone know when the 6th book is due?I hope we don't have to wait another 2 years to read it! :(

[Mánalinya]

As far as I know a release date has not been announced yet. But apparantly the book is coming along really well, so I don't think it'll be too long (then again, any length of time is too long :p).

[Ithildiel Noldoran]

As far as I know a release date has not been announced yet. But apparantly the book is coming along really well, so I don't think it'll be too long (then again, any length of time is too long :p).

*sigh*That's what everyone said about the 5th one and it took 2 whole years to see it in the bookstores at last!! :( :rolleyes: I hope it really is sooner this time! :grin: :) I hate waiting!!! :archer:

[Eowyn]

I suspect it won't be out before easter. There was a rumour it might be ready for christmas but JK has recently said on her site that she's still working on it and publishing it will take 4-5 months :( Ms Rowling is pregnant again but doesn't think that should interupt the books progress... kinda implies to me that it'll be writtern within 9 months ;)

[Mocha]

CBBC (http://news.bbc.co.uk/cbbcnews/hi/uk/newsid_3566000/3566714.stm)

BBC (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/3566812.stm)

They've posted about what JKR said in the Edinburgh Festival that JKR was in...she gave new hints and some clues...


I'm so excited! Halfway through she says...well that's better than none! And she says that it's her favorite book so far and that it'll answer a lot of questions. I don't want to post about her spoilers incase some of you guys would rather wait till it's out and read it before reading about the spoilers, though they're not that bad ;)

[Feebeefi]

I heard rumours that the 6th book should be out between next March and next May ;)

[Mocha]

oooh I hope so!

Btw guys, the secret door over at JKR's site has opened and if you work out the clues you'll get a piece of paper describing how the "Half Blood Prince" looks like. Hint: He sounds like the 'prince' of the jungle :p

[Blind-Guard]

Haven't been here for a while. Accidents and stuff, My face was half open, and jes it did hurt.

Anyway, I'm really excited for ook 6, can't wait. I've been reading book 1 to 5 for about 4 times in a row now, can't wait for movie 3 on dvd in november and for movie 4 in november next year. I at least hope book 6 will be out next summer or so.

[Eowyn]

Merlin's Beard where is the switch on JK's site? I've opened the door but I can't find the switch. ok I can be patient
*glares at computer*

[Mirkgirl]

mmm what site? I might as well take a look... itd be better than a german textbook for certain.

[Mocha]

Eowyn, look at the bottom end of the window's frame and move left from there till the middle of the door, almost, and then click at that place...that's where it is. Go to mugglenet.com to know more about how you can open it ;)

BG, I hope you're well now...


Mirks, it's on jkrowling.com ;)

[Eowyn]

Thanks Mocha i did eventually cheat and look on darkmark.com for the way to do it though. lol I'm sure I'd clicked there :rolleyes:

[Mocha]

No problem ;)

So, what do you think of JK's clue about the Halfblood Prince?

[Eowyn]

I really don't know what to think. It could be a description of anybody. Has she said it's the Half-blood prince somewhere? because we'll have a new DADA teacher and minister for magic so it could be one of them. :huh:

[Mocha]

I've heard all around that it's a description of the HBP himself. Now we know what he looks like, all we need to know is WHO he is, lol...JKR is going to drive me mad, not that I'm already mad to begin with :p

[Eowyn]

Interesting... now why would she do that? I mean why give the description not drive you mad. lol Although I agree with the last bit. Sh'es enjoying teasing us isn't she.

[Mocha]

She sure is, though I'd love to do the same with my readers one day if I ever have any :p


Her teasing and running away from answering certain questions only makes us more excited about buying her next book, so it's working out great for her lol

[Mirkgirl]

Now I think Eowyn might have her finger on somehting... did she ever SAY that it was a hint to who HBP is? It might as well be just some description of some other new character... because IF this is HBP he must be a new character... am I making any sense?

[Mocha]

I don't really recall JKR saying that her description IS of the HBP, so you guys might be on to something...it might be a description of her new character McLagaan (sp?)

[Eowyn]

It could indeed... there's also the DADA teacher... unless thats who McLagaan is. She did say that one of the DADA teachers would manage two years so I think it might be this new one. I can't see any of the others coming back lol let's see now,
dead, no memory, a werewolf, as good as dead, and sooo fired! lol

[Mocha]

lol there was a rumor spreading around that maybe Harry himself would be the DADA teacher...but I guess that McLagaan will be him. I really can't wait till Book 6 is out. Mom's got a theory that JKR has the sixth and seventh books all done and all, but that she's doing this "I'm still writing thing" to buy her more readers and to excite them more :p can't blame her for thinking like that when you see me and my occasional "JKR's release of sixth book" tantrums :p

[Mirkgirl]

Well the only one who could be back is Lupin... after all after the loyal deatheater in disguise and umbridge, the parents might actually think a werewolf an improvement... tho managing two years usually means they should be one after another so I guess this one's going to be in the seventh too

I don't think Harry'd be the teacher... it'd be a GREAT bend of rules and altho he did prove he can do it, getting the handsorted ones accept him as a teacher is not like teaching Slytherins for example.

If she has written them all I'm hoping she's fixing and rewriting them now. I mean the 5th could positively be better written.

[Eowyn]

yes I agree with the last statement. It could definately have been better writtern and I don't thin she's got them writtern or at least not completely but she must know how things go so it's just a case of fixing it all together and making it readable.

[Tirithel]

Just curious, perhaps I should read back a bit farther before asking, but is there a date set for the release of the 6th book? I'm running out of stuff to read, and while Tolkien is always a good re-read, I'm hungering for a little something new, if you take my meaning. :grin:

[Mocha]

No official date. Some people think it'll be out by early next year and some think that it'll be out once the 5th book is out as a movie and so on...but you can sign up on Barnesandnoble's 6th book list, they'll send you an e-mail as soon as there's an official date for the book to out on ;)

[Eowyn]

It'll be next year! Think positively Mocha!

It WILL be next year! It WILL be next year! It WILL be next year! It WILL be next year!

[Mocha]

Eowyn, been watching too much Wizard of Oz lately??? :p


I hope it'll come out soon, I really want to end with this...it's like an unsolved problem that I have in my head 24/7 :mmmm:

[Eowyn]

oh that's where it's from. Thanks I was trying to remember. :thumbs:

and I agree with the unsolved problem and I'm the sort of person that if you give them a problem to solve they go insane until they figure out the answer but I know if I figure it out I'll be disappointed. I'm willing Ms Rowling to make it as unpredictable as possible. After all that's why I loved the first 4 books.

[Mocha]

No problem :)


Yeah, I know, but I can't wait any longer! I mean it's been fun with us trying to figure out the clues and such, but let's face us, we're stupid. So unless Rowling shoves the answers under our noses, we won't notice a thing lol I hope she'll have it soon...

[Eowyn]

Apaarently some people have got it. As soon as I heard that I stopped reading people's theories. AS much as I want the answer I'd like it to unfold as I read the books. It'd be like being told how the Lord of the Rings ends! (which my sister did tell me when I was about a chapter away) All that reading and someone ruins the end. So I think I'll try and figure out the Snape and Lucius thing.

[Mocha]

Aww you poor thing, your sister ruined LoTR's ending for you?! Awww! I never knew how it ended till I actually read it, so I guess I'm lucky.
Even though some people have got it, it's hard to know who's right since there are a LOT of theories about JKR's work...so it doesn't differ if you read them or not, unless you believe in something 100%

[Mirkgirl]

Well after youve read all the theories and read through some of the book you'll actually find which one'd prolly be the true one and the rest will be spoilt I guess. If Im making any sense....

as to me, Im not reading any of it cause Im lazy

[Mocha]

I don't think it's that simple, Mirks. If it were that simple then people would have known what would really come along. The only person who keeps saying that some of the theories out there are correct is JKR herself. And since we *can't* read her mind, then we can never know which theories are correct and which are not...

[Eowyn]

yup I have read loads of the theories but I can pick out flaws in each one so if it turns out to be any of them I'll be really disappointed.

[Mirkgirl]

well prolly they only got some of it anyway

speaking of flaws... I finally finished the 5th yesterday... took a while but it was annoying around the end while theyre supposed to be *in a hurry* to save sirius. Anyways I found it odd beyond measure that the bloody curtain thing wasnt explained. Dunno about you but that'd be the first thing Id like to clear up if I was harry.

The whole book was a disappointment if you ask me, she better get some time and do better (and deffo shorter) work with the next one.

[Bane of Lunazra]

hey hP fans!
there wuz this site my friend took me to a year or so ago tht wuz absolutely amazing with harry potter book spoilers! for example: the absolute BEST one (which i think would be incredible) is:

the last line of the 7th book is suppose' ta be Hermione asking Harry:

"Harry, where is your scar?"

that's incredible - tht and one wuz tht ron and harry are related because Lily (harrys mom duh) had flaming red hair and wuz the "distant cousin" of the weasley family - they talk about the cousin in the 4th book i believe - its gr8 stuff!

[Eowyn]

well I've heard that "scar" is the last word of the book but I doubt the scar disappears, it wouldn't make sense and I can't imagine how or why that little bit would have gotten out.

as for Harry and Ron related again I doubt it but it does raise the question why is harry not in the least bit inquisitive about his parents? I would want to know and I would really have wanted to know why Voldie wanted me dead :rolleyes: and if Harry is related to the weasley's that would put a stop to all Harry and Ginny relationships lol

welcome to the site Bane of Lunazra :wave: may we shorten your name somehow? it's a lot to type :grin:

Mirky the 5th book is better the 2nd time you read it but I still think it lacks something... possibly a plausible plot I mean why would 6 kids go to the rescue of Sirius.... the book became very childish at that point... plus the death eaters should have easily won... and I suppose they would have if the order hadn't shown up hmmm...

[Mocha]

I've never read/heard or the Herm comment. The "Scar" word being the last word in the last book is official, JKR has said that herself.

I just want that bloody sixth book to come out...grrr!

[Mirkgirl]

Well it makes sense to make the last word scar but I guess it wont just disappear. prolly stop prickling (: Actually the first and last word of a lit work are supposed to be flashy and she didn't get too flashy w/ "Mr and Mrs Dursley" heh time to catch up :P

Hiya BoL (I am lazy) welcome to the forum :wave:

but it does raise the question why is harry not in the least bit inquisitive about his parents? I would want to know and I would really have wanted to know why Voldie wanted me dead
Well prolly he thought he + his parents were just the next in the line to kill... which still doesn't explain why he never wanted to understand more about his parents and specially his father... he knows close to nothing about his family after all.

Mirky the 5th book is better the 2nd time you read it but I still think it lacks something... possibly a plausible plot I mean why would 6 kids go to the rescue of Sirius.... the book became very childish at that point... plus the death eaters should have easily won... and I suppose they would have if the order hadn't shown up hmmm...
ugh Im not really intending to read it again. Plus I dont think I can dig up more from it even if I do (I have strong memory with books). That plot was plausible enough for harry imo. He had met voldster quite many times and got quite bold not to worry about him much. Actually if he was alone holding the profecy he wouldve had more of a chance to get out really. However.... the way the DE acted was childish. First they are some blundering hooded creatures who couple of kids defeat with easy spell, then they damage most of the OftP members and only D saves the day. Even with the underestimation in play it does seem a bit too much a change.

The problem with the 5th book:
1. the writting went down the drain. really she didn't do that good a job before either but this one was simply hard to read
2. it was too long. It only covers one year, EVEN if it's an eventful year there's only so much you can say about it. (noting that it only tells from what Harry sees.) Especially on places it looks like lotsa stuffing put there for the sake of more pages
- most stunning part - while *on the rescue* for Sirius. I think the whole details and relaxed writing will be too much even for a stroll in the park, let alone a rescue team.
3. The bloody mirror - even if we can understand that harry doesn't even think about it as he doesn't want to be the one sending sirius back to jail, why didn't sirius tell him off using umbridges fire when he has the bloody mirror? Maybe he was more happy with flashy breakins and there was Lupin but still he couldve at least hinted. Im sure he'd appreciate talking with harry more.
- more amnesia... How come neither Ron nor Hermiony thought of Snape? While it's understandable for the boys, Hermy usually is the voice of reason when it comes to that.
4. The bloody veil - even for the magical world disappearing behind a veil from where you hear people isn't quite normal. No matter how devastated Harry was there should be some curiosity or even some wanting to understand better what happened to Sirius.

As a summary about everyone in this book seems to be blundering in trance, the autor included. Hoping she to take her time and not hurry with the 6th and present a good book which will be worthy to be read for itself, not just because you enjoyed the previous ones.

[Mánalinya]

The only part I really didn't like in this book, was Grawp. Seriously, I thought that entire chapter was so stupid. It completely broke up the flow of the rest of the story. I think that Grawp should have been left out. And for someone as brilliant as J.K., it wouldn't have been hard for her to come up with another idea on how Harry and Hermione escape the Forbidden Forest later. I just think it was the most pointless idea. And even if she has something planned for him later (which she probably does, cuz she has a plan for everything), I'm not even interested.

I agree with you, Mirky. I think too much time was spent on unimportant stuff, trying to fill pages, instead of on the good stuff. There's too much left unexplained. I realize that our questions will *hopefully* be answered in the next two books, but I don't think it's right for a book to leave me with so many more questions than I had at the beginning, and feeling like none were answered.

I still thought it was a good book (and Eowyn's right: it does get better on the 2nd read), but I still can't get over a *slight* feeling of disappointment about the whole thing. All I can say is that I hope the next book exeeds all expectations. I guess all we can do is wait and see.

Oh, and she darn well better have something good on Snape in the next book, or I'll...I'll...I don't know, burst a blood vessel or something.

[Bane of Lunazra]

yah - you guys can call me ailnoriel or BoL - w/e they're both fine wit me - i still have to find that site... grrr... but i agree with eowyn on wut i said - i just wrote wut i remembered but i think tht wud be really neat for a twisted ending if harry's scar vanishes somehow - i reallly want the 6th book to come out tooo... *sigh* we just have to be patient - which sux.

but maybe his scar disappears or something after the final duel with voldi - idk im not jk rowling lol -

what do u guys think of the fact harry and dumbledore are the only wizards known so far that can perform magic without a wand?

i wanna no wut u guys think about tht - they related? lol no but tht wud be cool - get bck to me on tht - ailnoriel :cool:

[Mirkgirl]

mmmm I have to disagree about Gawpy... I found him one of the better things in the book... a logical continuation of his pets and logical present for Hagrid, who misses his father (the only family he ever had) a lot. Dont think he was there just to save the kiddies from the centaurs.

Anyways I have to agree that she better put more snape :grin:

[Eowyn]

oh they'll be more about Snape. I have to say i'd forgotten that Hermione never considers snape definately out of character for her.

BoL (it's shortest ;) ) I don't think they're related but you have a point they're the only ones we've seen do anything yet... I bet Voldie can too!

[Mocha]

I think that snape's eerie behavior is the number one reason why we want the sixth book to come out. I'm almost more interested with knowing what's so mysterious about him than how/why Voldi's still alive, almost being the key word here :p

[Lady Melanie]

Me as well...I want to know whose side snape is really on. I cant wait for the 6th book!

[Eowyn]

ok so the only reason we want the 6th book is because of Snape... she could write it all based around him and ignore the whole Harry and Voldie thing lol then we'd ALL be happy :grin:

[Lady Melanie]

yes, she could but that stuff just makes it more interesting. Besides I still want to know what happens with harry/voldie. I wonder how long the 6th book will be. I know JKR said it would be shorter but I cant help hoping it will be longer than previous books.

[Mirkgirl]

:brave: for "Snape and the halfblood prince"
subtitle "Enough of Potty"

What's that for only D. and Harry being able to do magic w/o a wand? After Nevilles elaborate story how his uncle tried whatnot to make him show magic but it only worked after he dropped him from the window? I don't think there were any wands involved and still he was SUPPOSED to do some reflex magic.

Also one Q from the silly corner: Why was Voldie supposed to die? I keep reading that some spell in the ministry shouldve killed him, but I dont seem to recall anything like that in the text itself.

[Mocha]

Well, Voldie's the erm only wizard I presure who's able to do the Adava Kedavra. He used that spell to kill Harry's parents and succeeded, but when he tried to do it to Harry, it reflected back at him instead of killing Harry, hence Harry's famous scar and Voldie trying to stay alive in different unknown ways to us. I don't recall something in the ministry that should have killed him, though...

[Mirkgirl]

ah that... it makes sense now.. thx mochster

[Eowyn]

I don't care how long the 6th book is so long as it's well writtern and answers some of my questions... and Harry isn't angry all the way through.

[Arwen_Evenstar]

I agree with you. I can't wait for it to come out:) And I hope it is good!

[Mocha]

lol, yeah Harry's gotta deal with his anger management class :p

[Miriel Baggins]

I don't care how long the 6th book is so long as it's well writtern and answers some of my questions... and Harry isn't angry all the way through. Amen, Eowyn! :hooray: Talk about annoying --- I almost just called it quits on the whole Harry Potter franchise when I got stuck in that fifth book. I thought it was a bit plotless, too. But Harry just drove me over the top. :(

Still, I'm really excited about the next one!!! :grin:

[Eowyn]

I'm glad you agree. So who actually thinks Harry will be calmer in the next book? anyone? lol

[Lady Melanie]

I dont know if he will be calmer, I mean he does have a right to be angry. He seemed a bit calm at the end of book 5 though when he was talking to Luna. But anything could happen

[Eowyn]

well fingers crossed he'll at least have improved a little. I really shouldn't be siding with Lucius and Bella at the ministry... although I didn't like Bella when she crucio'd Neville. I like Neville he's a sweetie.

[Lady Melanie]

Neville really is a sweetie. I felt really sorry for him when he went to see his parents and Harry, Hermoine and Ron were there. Harry and Neville are really quite similar.

[Eowyn]

Yes, it's heart breaking. I think it's worse for neville though because that is the way he will always remember his parents. At lest Harry can build ideas of his own about his parents. Although I don't like Harry's dad.

*gives Neville a big hug*

[Lady Melanie]

Why dont you like James? I think hes okay, but I suppose everyone makes him out to be a great hero except snape of course.
I think Neville has an important part to play in the next 2 books. It must also suck that he has to live with his gran. He was very brave in book 5 though.

[Eowyn]

oh Neville will play a big role that much is becoming clear.

AS for James well it was the glimpses of him when he was younger. I hated the way he and Sirius acted. So arrogant.

[Mocha]

I agree with Eowyn, I hated how he and Sirius used to gang-up against Snape and all. There was no reason what-so-ever for them to beat Snape up, even if he looked and acted so annoyingly...

[Eowyn]

:) yeah Mocha agrees! :hyper: Although I suspect Snape may have given them a reason at some point. At least I hope so because otherwise there really was no call for it.

[Lady Melanie]

Well it said in the book that Snape used to curse them so maybe they were just getting their own back? Im sure if we looked inside James's memories we would see a different side of the story.

[The Scottish Elf]

James did it for one reason or another - Snape did have it in for him, and he couldn't just sit back at let him. Maybe he defended himself, and just found it too easy. At any rate, we know he changes because Lily married him, didn't she? He was a decent person, even if he was a bit of a jerk at school. I think somethings going to happen to prove to Harry his dad was a good person - he still needs his father as a "support" figure, if he doubts his father he's going to doubt himself. James'll come though, if for the only reason that Harrry needs him, or at least definately will in the coming two books.

[Mocha]

Hmm it was either mentioned in the books, if not then it's in my head...but I think that Harry and Ron's treatment of Malfoy is the same as James and Sirius's treatment of Snape...so maybe Snape was like Malfoy as was a troublemaker and a source of annoyance for J&S...just a thought...

So far I've seen that Snape has treated HP fairly due to the fact that HP's father was a jerk towards him...


As for Eowyn's hyperness about me agreeing with her, then I can say/do is this: :smooch: ;) you're such a sweetie!

[Mirkgirl]

erm I'm sorry yall but Sirius was a spoilt brat, who thought that just hating his parents made him cool, even if he was acting like them, James was the usual sport star and was actually in awe to Sirius (as the torture to make Sirius less bored, there IS a reason why this scene popped up in the book) and Lupin was actually too confused to do anything on his own and just followed the flow telling himself its not that bad, and what's more important - it wasnt his fault or responsibility... not that that's bad or that that;s much different from most schools. THey did change, we know that for sure and one should have more respect for a person who was a brat and changed then to a person who was a good nicey kid all the way round and can get enough of it and explode any moment.

We have the facts that in his early years James was jinxing everyone cause he could. We CANT compare that to Harry and we CANT compare that to Harry mostly because he was brought by his cousin pushing his head down the toilet.... I don't think the only reason Dumbledore had to send Harry there was the blood magic... there was also the lesson what being a victim is.

Anyways I dont have a problem with HArry being angry most of the time...if I was Harry I'd be demolishing the furniture long before year 5.... makes sense for him to be angry, makes sense for him to make mistakes all the time (doesn't explain why Ron and Hermy do that too tho), makes sense for him to feel like his heads going to explode. Those anger surges are actually VERY on place, at least I can relate to them (:

[The Scottish Elf]

I think we only saw one scene of their seven years (Snape and James) at Hogwarts, which you can't really judge from. Looking only at that, Malfoy seems far worse than Snape was then, and James worse than Harry, but then look at what Sirius and Lupin said about James. And I do think Snape gave them a reason...maybe because he was just so horrible to James. lol

I also definately agree with Mirkgirl on the anger thing - I'm just glad I'm not in his place!

[Miriel Baggins]

THey did change, we know that for sure and one should have more respect for a person who was a brat and changed then to a person who was a good nicey kid all the way round and can get enough of it and explode any moment. Well said, Mirky! With what information we have so far (from the books), you seem to be right on target. I don't know if Rowling will give us more of their stories later, and prove them to have been less of the spoiled brats they seemed in the fifth book, but I agree that to have been like that, and then to change so radically --- well, more power to them. (And, perhaps, to Lily? I'm sure she had a great deal to do with the change in them.)

About Harry's "anger complex" thing: Sure, I'm not saying he didn't have every reason to be exploding every second at whoever happened to be nearby, I'm just saying that it got annoying, after however-many-tons-of-pages of it.

So, I came over here to discuss a bit about the sixth book. Scottish Elf posted a link to a Rowling interview (go to the Harry Potter thread in the Other Movies forum), which stated that there were two questions we should be asking:
1. Why didn't Voldemort die? (Instead of 'Why did Harry live?')
and
2. Why didn't Dumbledore kill Voldemort in the Ministry of Magic at the end of the fifth book?

Thoughts, anyone?

[Eowyn]

As for Eowyn's hyperness about me agreeing with her, then I can say/do is this: :smooch: ;) you're such a sweetie!

:blush: awww you're a sweetie too!

I agree with Mirky that Sirius was a spoilt brat. I also think that although it's true that the Harry, Ron and Draco situation is similar it isn't the same. It's almost reversed. Harry is picked on by Draco in a similar way that Snape was picked on by James.. almost anyway, the younger generation do seem to provoke each other before they started hexing each other lol

[Lady Melanie]

I have always wondered why Voldermort didnt die at the end of the 5th book.
I think what happened was that Voldermort possessed Harry and then while taunting Dumbledore, the other ministry wizards arrived. He realised that he had to leave because:
1. He had blown his cover and everyone would now know that he had come back.
2. He probably would have been defeated if he had gone up against the ministry wizards and Dumbledore so instead he fled with Bellatrix because he could not defeat them with only one death eater.
I think Voldermort believes in strength in numbers.

[The Scottish Elf]

This is a copy of the post I wrote on the Harry Potter thread in the other movies thread, on the same subject:

I always presumed Dumbledore knew that he couldn't kill Voldemort, and the curse may rebound on him, just like it did on Voldemort the night he tried to kill Harry, because of the prophecy. It talks of "the one who has the power to defeat the Dark Lord" (or something along those lines) - as if the only one with the power to kill him, therefore not including Dumbledore. Of course, this could just mean one of the ones, and JKR wants us to look for something else, but I don't think so - this just makes sense.

I know - regards to the second question, if it was some kind of complicated spell that hadn't been previously mentioned, we'd never be able guess it, so why would JKR be prompting? I keep thinking about book two, (as its related to book 6) and how he used the diary. Maybe because he split himself up somehow, with some of himself somewhere else, you couldn't actually kill him until you killed both parts, just severly weakened. (I would talk more, but I don't have much time at the moment!)

And also, who do you think is the Half-Blooded Prince? JKR said it's not Harry or Voldemort, so I'm frantically searching my brain for other possiblities. Of course it could be a completely new character, but what about...Nevile, Dumbledore or Krum??? Interesting thought.

[Eowyn]

oh thanks for popping that in here :)

I like your idea about him splitting himself in two. definately interesting but I suspect the plotline Ms Rowling has will be complicated. Someone we think is dead probably isn't... or maybe it's the opposite and someone we think is alive is actually dead lol You never know with her. :rolleyes:

As for Dumbledore not killing Harry it's probably just because of the prophecy. That is actually still bugging me. It's very oddly phrased and she has admited that it was very carefully worded. hmmmm...

[Mirkgirl]

1. Why didn't Voldemort die? (Instead of 'Why did Harry live?')
My guess is:
A) part of him was in young potter (L-A-M-E)
B) one (or perhapse even more) of V's attempts to keep himself alive worked

As you can guess B is my call. Also we have it from the prophecy step 1 - marking, step 2 - someone killing someone. Can't mix the two steps (:

2. Why didn't Dumbledore kill Voldemort in the Ministry of Magic at the end of the fifth book?

Obvious - knowing the prophecy it's obvious that whatever there's to happen it wouldn't involve him [D] killing V so why try. Nothing to win and quite a lot to loose, as one of you mentioned, maybe even his own life.

As to the HBP, if that description was his he's prolly a new char.

[Eowyn]

very clearly explained there Mirky ;) and I agree.

[The Scottish Elf]

definately interesting but I suspect the plotline Ms Rowling has will be complicated. Someone we think is dead probably isn't... or maybe it's the opposite and someone we think is alive is actually dead lol You never know with her. :rolleyes:

As for Dumbledore not killing Harry it's probably just because of the prophecy. That is actually still bugging me. It's very oddly phrased and she has admited that it was very carefully worded. hmmmm...

Yes, knowing JKR, it will be very complicated! However, I am still willing to try and guess...(it's fun :grin: )

Hmmm, carefully worded...I shall have to go back and read that again. I've also been listening to HP2 on tape (its guilt-free, as I'm not "wasting time" reading, and doing other things. Apparently I read too much - is that possible???) but I need to read the book I think to do some serious contemplating :)

[Eowyn]

lol excellent plan there. Listen to them instead of reading them lol Let me know if you pick anything up.

I enjoy guessing but I hate it when I guess correctly so I'm not trying to hard. I'll discuss things with people but I'm desperately trying to stop my mind from drawing it's own conclusions.

[Mocha]

Great theories, guys! :thumbs:

I just hope that JK will finish up soon. Can anyone guess how many times I've mentioned that?! lol


;) @ Eowyn ;)

[ranehdel]

Personally...I don't like good ol harry...I'm not into that wizzards, spells, and junk...

[Eowyn]

Great theories, guys! :thumbs:

I just hope that JK will finish up soon. Can anyone guess how many times I've mentioned that?! lol


;) @ Eowyn ;)

I'd say about the same number that I have mentioned it lol ;)

[Mocha]

I don't consider that a lot, do you? We should mention it more, Eowyn :p


I really really want to finish with this stuff...JK is one ruthless author, she's killing us without even caring :p

[The Scottish Elf]

If you go onto JKR's website - www.jkrowling.com its really good! - she says that when she's not writing, she's updating her site, so either way we win! (I'd still rather have the book tho ;) )

Ok, I know this may sound very far fetched ( lol ) but I was reading the fourth book this morning and thinking about the Half-Blood Prince. What if it's Hagrid? He's half-wizard, half-human even, his mother was one of the rulers of the giants (I think - which may explain the prince bit, and who knows who his dad was?) and, as the main storyline was going to be included in second book instead of the sixth, it makes sense as the plot was partly based around what happened to Hagrid 50 years ago...

Yes, I know it may be completely wrong, but I really do enjoy guessing.
I enjoy guessing but I hate it when I guess correctly so I'm not trying to hard. I'll discuss things with people but I'm desperately trying to stop my mind from drawing it's own conclusions.

I know how you feel - I figured out prior to the release of the fifth book that Sirius was going to die (it just made sense in my mind) but I really do love guessing and trying to work things out to give up and not do it! lol Especially when you can discuss them. Well - am I completely driven mad by my love of HP, or is this one of the occasional times I actually make sense? (genuinly interested, really! :p )

And am I the only person who writes really long posts on here? :grin:

[Mocha]

Two of the people who went to the Edinburgh (sp?) Festival that JK was in asked her in person if Hagrid is the HBP and she said no to both of them.

lol, and you're not mad, TSE, you're just a fanatic ;)

[The Scottish Elf]

That's okay then, nice to know. :grin: Not Hagrid, then, hmmm...Oh, well. Now, who else could it be...

And, yes, you did spell Edinburgh right - well done! :grin: (A short post - yeay!)

[Elijah's Girl]

I am going mad over this book! I here it is not going to be longer than the o.o.t.p but as short as the g.o.f. I hope she finishes it soon!!!!
Also I have heard that the g.o.f. movie is set for November 2005!!!! I can't wait!!!!

[Bane of Lunazra]

That's amazing! I totally cant wait for the fourth movie to come out - but i hope they dont mess up the tasks and make them with bad graphics - especially the part with the lake task and the merpeople - i absolutely loved that chapter - also the dragons and harry trying to get the egg from the horntail - its gonna rock! :rock:
cetcha l8tr - BoL

[Elijah's Girl]

I saw a pic of the Dragon scene at www.mugglenet.com it looks accurate...I hope they have the events in order like in p.o.a. they had the broom thing at the very end!!!! That made me soooooo mad!!!

[Bane of Lunazra]

yea! i no... esecially since P.o.a. is my favorite book - i am totally an animagus/ marauders fan. but anyway, i really enjoyed the time turner sequence but i thought some of the details they left out about the history of the marauders and sirus were annoying - especially when they mix up the order - thanx for the site im gunna check it out if my power doesnt go out again... *darn 'cane* its goood stuff . wut did u guys think of the way the actors looked in the third movie compared to the 2nd? i wanna no cetcha l8tr - BoL

[Mirkgirl]

Dean might make sense for the HBP... maybe that ginny part at the end was a hint (it was him wasnt it?)

And while I know that we cant do w/o mentioning the movies, for pure movie discussions please go to the movie thread (:

[The Scottish Elf]

Dean might make sense for the HBP... maybe that ginny part at the end was a hint (it was him wasnt it?)

Ok, maybe I'm being kinda thick, but can you explain what part you're talking about? I'm kinda skeptical about the idea of the HBP being another student - other than the main characters (Harry, Ron, Hermione, Nevile, Draco) I don't think any other the other students are, I don't know, important enough?(Nevile being the only possiblity) The HBP is going to be an important character, and if that was going to be another student, it would mean Harry would no longer be singled out so much, taking away some of our sympathy for him. Harry's always going to be very different from his peers, another student being the HBP just wouldn't make sense. (if you get what I mean) There's the possiblity that the HBP is a teacher, but I'm still inclined to believe that he's someone outside of Hogwarts. Just because he doesn't have a starring role in Hogwarts, doesn't mean he's not a very important character to the storyline - maybe a death eater?

My opinion, anyway.

[Mocha]

I think I heard somewhere that JKR mentioned that the Half Blood prince is going to be in the seventh book, too. So whoever he is, he's gonna stay till the last book!

[Feebeefi]

I think the HBP is going to be a new character imho.
I think the HBP is going to be half blood so it can';t be Dean since he's muggle born.

Just my thoughts ;)

[Mirkgirl]

"Fatherhood is a question of trust" as my dad loves to say. ;)

Anyways, Ive just seen theories about Dean flying around and with that bringing him into play the end of hp5 it might make sense. However a new char might be more logical, or Snape as she keeps on that that'd be the book he's in a lot.

[Eowyn]

i had a really random thought. JK never actually said the HBP was alive... very unlikely I just thought it would be a really cruel thing for her to do lol

[Lady Melanie]

I think its going to be a first year and that first year is somehow going to impact on Harrys life. I wish JKR would tell us who it is!!!

[The Scottish Elf]

Yeah, Snape's always gonna be around he's great:P But JKR has been hinting at his parentage - we know he's not muggle born, as he was a death eater, but could easily have been half-blood. Hmm...

About Dean - he is half blood. His background was originally going to be included in the Chamber of Secrets but it was cut, and now lives on JKR's website.

"Dean is from what he always thought to be a pure muggle background. He was raised by his mother and stepfather; his father walked out on his family when he was very young. He has a very happy life with a number of step-brothers and -sisters.

"Naturally when the letter came from Hogwarts Dean's mother wondered whether his father might have been a wizard, but nobody has ever discovered the truth: that Dean's father, who had never told his wife what he was to protect her, got himself killed by death eaters when he refused to join them. The projected story had Dean discovering this all through his school career. I suppose in some ways I sacrificed Dean's voyage of discovery for Neville's, which is more central to the main plot." JKR

Read my post earlier, about why I don't think it's going to be a student, but I could be wrong.

[Eowyn]

oh yes I read that too and then I felt really sorry for Dean and decided he needed hugging nearly as much as Neville.

[TurambaR]

What is the difference between Half-blood and Half blood?!? I don't get it.... pfbbt

[Eowyn]

Half blood just means they don't have a purely wizarding family. I don't think it matters if you put 'Half-blood' or 'Half blood'

[Lady Melanie]

Half blood means that one of your parents is not a wizard or witch.
I was wondering what is going to happen to Grawp in the 6th book. Im sure he is going to be important some how. I was also reading Fantastic Beasts and where to find them and was thinking about the basilisk. If Harry is a parselmouth, cant he just breed his own army of basilisks and use them to take on Voldemort.
Please excuse my wondering mind. :p :p :p :p :blush: :blush:

[Bane of Lunazra]

there's nothin wrong with ur wondering mind lol - i think that wud be awesome if harry wakes up one day, realizes his true potential, walked outside and called for the aid of many serpentsin parelmouth, and began his conquest for power... *mwuhahahahaha* but then again, i think strangely like tht - ;)

[Mocha]

I think that you guys would be happy to check-out JKR's FOA section, she's answered a lot of new questions along with the Poll question concerning why Dumbledore (sp?) sent the "Remember my last..."


:hyper:

[Lady Melanie]

I have checked out that whole site. however the "do not disturb sign" is never off when Im there, so I havent got any new clues to the 6th book at the moment.

[Mocha]

there are no clues concerning HP6, but she's answered some fan questions on her Frequently Asked Questions page :)

[Lady Melanie]

Thats true but she hasnt answered the questions that I want answered. lol
like why did Snape decided to turn to the good side?
I also want to know how Lucius Malfoy proved that he wasnt a deatheater and didnt go to Azkaban?
I think that Lucius Malfoy is just as mysterious as Snape.

[Mocha]

Well, these are very important questions. It would be hard for her to answer them since they're have a main part in her following books...


Lucius as mysterious as Snape? Hmm, I don't think so. Lucius is very evil with evil motives behind his actions. Snape keeps surprising us with being evil but having different motives behind his actions which sometimes turn to be for a good cause that he'd do even though he wouldn't like doing it...imho :)

[Mánalinya]

I have to agree with Mocha. Lucius is not nearly as mysterious as Snape. He is not a very complex character at all. Not that he's entirely flat, either, just not complex. He's just an evil, arrogant, power-hungry sadist.

Snape, on the other hand, seems to have endless layers. He keeps doing things no one expects, and when you do expect something, it's always done for a different motive than what you thought. Everything he does just adds more to the mysterious aura around him, and makes him so much more fascinating. Every new bit of information revealed about him only leaves us with even more questions. (Hehe, how can you tell I'm a Snape lover? :grin:)

Anyway, I'm not knocking Lucius, because I actually quite like him, for some reason or another :rolleyes: - I just don't think he's nearly as deep and intriguing as Snape. No competition whatsoever (IMHO, of course ;)).

[Lady Melanie]

The main question I want answered about Snape is why did he betray Voldemort? We are told he was a dark-arts lover, so it seems natural he would be one of Voldie's most loyal supporters so what made him change? This question is really bugging me, I hope it gets answered in the 6th book.

[Eowyn]

Linya how can you say that about Lucius?! oh right because it's true lol I think Lucius is mysterious but not as much as Snape. The question I'd most like answered is why Snape and Lucius seem so friendly towards one another.... it's killing me!

[Lady Melanie]

I would also like to know the answer to that question and why the minister and Lucius are friendly. Maybe Lucius said he was acting under the Imperius curse and thats how he was never sent to Azkaban.

[Tári Celebrindal]

Just read a few minutes ago that Rowling would be killing off another character in book 6. :( Here's the link:

http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/art-main.html?2004-10/08/11.00.books

[Mirkgirl]

WEll she should kill some... after all look at that pic of the prev order - you cant expect to have a little war with voldie and then everyone to go home safe and sound to tell their grandchildren the story.

It was said that Lucious was one of the first that gave up Voldies cause and said they weren't acting according to their free will. Knowing that Lucious is actually a rather slippy sneaky fish no wonder he acted swift when the wind changed.

As to Snape, I don't see why just because he's fascinated with dark arts he should be voldies supporter. One might be fascinated with guns but against the guy who has the biggest gun and ready to use it.

[Eowyn]

ok of course characters will die... on both sides I suspect.. I think Wormtail's going to get it at some point...and I really worry for Neville and Dumbledore :( Obviously Voldie will die... possibly Harry although I don't think she will because really the books are aimed at kids. I can't imagine the ministry will just slam the DE's back into Azkaban at the end of all of it though.... but again kids book so can't think of any other option.... yet.

[Mocha]

I think that someone *really* close to Harry will die...like Ron or Herm...now that would be a tragical thing...erm *ducks before the HP, Ron and Herm fans run after her with broomsticks*

[Eowyn]

lol
*watches Mocha duck*

Actually you might have a point. JK's commented that people always ask her if Ron will survive but never if hermione will because people assume she will.... now that would be cruel... I doubt she'd kill them though.... oh another person i'm worried about is Arthur Weasley.

[Ithildiel Noldoran]

I would also like to know the answer to that question and why the minister and Lucius are friendly. Maybe Lucius said he was acting under the Imperius curse and thats how he was never sent to Azkaban.

And that's probably what he did...Malfoy is a rather...sly and slippery character, I think, he can always get himself out of any tightspot!!

As for who's going to die in the 6th book...I hope Bellatrix Lestrange doesn't make it! I have to say, I worry for Neville, too! He showed us a totally different face in 5, don't you think?

[Mirkgirl]

well prolly we'll see a weasley go... I doubt itd be ron tho... as long as its not ginny its okay with me really :cool:

[Ithildiel Noldoran]

Well, then, I hope it's Percy! Never liked him, anyway!But I hope he makes amends with his family before he goes-much more tragic this way!

[Lady Melanie]

I was actually thinking that it might be Percy as well. I dont think JKR would kill off Hermoine.
But you never know. It would be just cruel to kill off Harry's godfather and then one of his best friends within 2 years!
It might be someone in the order. Maybe its Lupin?
Below I am pasting some facts that Mugglenet claim to know about books 6 and 7. well its more like facts that will be revealed.

Random facts about the book
- By the ends of books 6 and 7 "you'll have all the back story you'll need", says JK Rowling, and a prequel will not be necessary
- There will be a new Minister of Magic, no more Mr. Fudge.
- We will find out what happened to Hagrid's half brother Grawp. He will be a bit more controllable in book 6.
- The Dursleys are in the next book, but Harry's stay with them will be the shortest yet. In book 5 he stayed for 4 weeks, so we know his stay will be less than 4 weeks.
- Cho Chang will not be a romantic interest of Harry in Book 6, however there will be a "little romance" for Harry says JK.
- In books 6 and 7 we will find out exactly why JK killed off Sirius.
- Harry becomes even more powerful in book 6.
- In books 6 and 7 we will find out why Dumbledore trusts Snape.
- We will find out what happened to Wormtail AKA Peter Pettigrew
- More about the animosity between Snape and Sirius will be revealed in the last 2 books.
- JK has said that giving away the form of Snape's boggart and patronus says too much. We'll definitely find out what Snape's worst fear is, and it'll be important.
- Hermione and Draco will NOT end up together in book 6 or 7.
-We will find out what exactly Dudley saw when he looked at the dementors.
-The reason Voldemort and Harry both didn't die when Voldemort tried to kill Harry, will be revealed.
- We will see more of Draco's mother, Narcissa Malfoy, now that Lucius is busy.
- We'll learn more about Harry's scar in the last 2 books.
- Moaning Myrtle will make an appearance again, as will Tonks.
- More about Voldemort's birth will be revealed, thus helping us understand why he is so evil.
- Muggles begin to notice "more and more odd" occurrences in book 6, says JK.
- The wizarding world is really at war in the sixth book.
- Harry will tell his dearest friends about the prophesy after it sinks in to him.
- We will learn more about Harry's relatives, including his grandparents (though JK says they aren't really important to the story)
- We will find out what happened to Sirius's motorbike.
- Book 6 will be shorter than the 5th book (or at least JK's 99% sure, but will not swear on her children's lives)
- There will be no "new" nationalities of children at Hogwarts. Hogwarts is a British school, and JK says that adding foreigners for the sake of it is not in her plans.
- During an interview, when JKR was asked in which Hogwarts room she'd like to be for 1 hour, she said it would be a room in which Harry has been before, but doesn't know its importance. Yet. (this could have happened in book 5, but we're unsure)
- It's very important in the plot that Harry has his mother's eyes, and that her wand was very good for charms.
- During an interview for Kids BBC, Victor Greensteet (reporter) asked Rowling if Harry would have a dragon for a pet. This is what she replied: "You can't tame a dragon, no matter what Hagrid thinks. It's simply impossible. So no. He has more common sense. He MAY have a different pet in the future, but for now, I won't say anything else". (This could have been buckbeak, but I'm sure we can expect more pets)
- In the same interview for Kids BBC, the reporter asked J. K. if Harry had ever used the internet, and this is what she had to say: "No. They (the Dursleys) won't let him go near Dudley's computer, and Dudley is the only one who has a computer. They hit him if he gets too near to the keyboard. So the answer would be No. I use it a lot, but Harry doesn't. Wizards don't really need to go on the web. They have an even better way to find out what's happening in the outside world, which I think is a lot more fun than the Internet, but I'm going to keep quiet on this one."
- The choice between what's right and what's easy will be a pillar of the plot in Harry's last 2 years at Hogwarts
- Harry's parents' profession will be a big part of the plot.
- Something HUGE will be revealed about Lily Potter.


Here's some more interesting stuff as well....

Rumors that Have Been Put to Rest

-There will be no character named "Icicle," and JK said that she didn't recall saying there ever would be.
-Dumbledore is not a relative of Harry
-Harry is not related to Voldemort and he is not related to Salazar Slytherin.
-Lily Potter is not alive.
-Lily was not a death eater
-No prequel books are planned (no books before Harry's time at Hogwarts)
-Crookshanks is not an Animagus
-Neville is not the son of Peter Pettigrew (where do these people come up with this stuff?!)
-Remus Lupin does not have a twin brother.
-JK does not have any parts in the films
-Harry Potter will not be the new Minister of Magic



General Facts Not Disclosed in the Books

-Prefects can take points, Ron got it wrong in OotP, which makes him a pretty poor prefect eh?
-Fred and George Weasley were born on April Fool's day (no joke).
-Ginny Weasley's first name is Ginevra and she is the first female Weasley born for "several generations," says JK.
-Author Weasley has 2 brothers.
-Molly Weasley's maiden name is Prewett.
-Crookshakes is half Kneazle.
-The infamous Weasley cousin who was cut from the books was called Mafalda. She was in Slytherin.
-Dean Thomas's father was killed by Death Eaters when he refused to join them. Neither Dean nor his mother know this.
-Dean Thomas's was called Gary in the first drafts of the Philosopher's Stone
-Harry's middle name is "James."
-Hagrid, Lily, and James were in Gryffindor. (Hagrid was NOT in Hufflepuff.)
-Lily Potter's maiden name was Evans.
-There are about a thousand students at Hogwarts. (True, that doesn't seem right, but J.K. said so, and she's the boss.)
-James Potter was a Chaser on the Gryffindor Quidditch team. (They said he was a Chaser in the books, Seeker in the movie.)
-Hermione's birthday is September 19th, Ron's is March 1st.
-James Potter inherited lots of money, so he didn't need a well-paying profession.
-James Potter inherited the invisibility cloak from his father.
-Witches and wizards have longer life spans than muggles.
-The Gringott's goblins' return the muggle money they acquire back into circulation.
-The approximate value of a Galleon is about five pounds ($7.30 or 8.00 Euro), though the exchange rate varies.
-Dumbledore is 150, McGonagall is 70 (and is really an old softy, just doesn't act like it), Snape is 35 or 36.
-Hogwarts school motto, "Draco Dormiens Nunquam Titillandus," means, "Never tickle a sleeping dragon."
-If placed in front of a mirror, the inscription on the Mirror of Erised ("Erised stra ehru oyt ube cafru oyt on whosi") reads, "I show not your face but your hearts desire."
-The happiest people do not become ghosts (therefore we can take it that ghosts are people that died while sad, angry, etc. Myrtle was teased, Nearly Headless Nick didn't have his head completely chopped off, the Bloody Baron was...lonely?)
-The Hogwarts teachers do not stay at Hogwarts during the Christmas holidays. Filch, Hagrid, and Dumbledore do.
-A few of the Hogwarts professors have spouses, but that information is restricted for reasons we will find out about later.
-To remove the tail that Hagrid gave Dudley in the hut on the rock, the Dursleys went to a private hospital where the staff was very discreet, and said that a wart had got out of control.
-Aragog is an Acromantula (see "Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them").
-Dragons can't be domesticated, no matter what Hagrid thinks.
-There's more to the cats in the story (Crookshanks, Mrs. Figg's cats, Mrs. Norris, etc.) than meets the eye.
-The animal an Animagi turns into is a reflection on his/her personality.
-For Hagrid, keeping dangerous creatures is all about overcoming something that could kill him.
-Azkaban is in a sea north of the North Sea. A very cold sea.
-You can do unfocused and uncontrolled magic without a wand (like when Harry blows up Aunt Marge), but to do really good spells you need a wand.
-Muggle school is not required for wizard children prior to attending Hogwarts.
-A magical quill detects the birth of every magical child, and records it in a book; Professor McGonagall sends an owl to each child when he or she turns 11.

[Lady Melanie]

Sorry for double posting but Ive been looking around and have found some more interesting stuff.

I found an extract from book 6 which JK posted on her website. Its describing someone, supposedly the half-blooded prince.

He looked rather like an old lion.
There were streaks of grey in his mane of tawny hair and bushy eybrows;
He had keen yellowing eyes behind a pair of wire-framed spectacles
and a certain rangy, loping grace even though he walked with a slight limp
If this is describing the half-blooded prince, it has to be a new character because no character that I can think of looked like a lion.

I also found some stuff people are expecting to happen in book 6 (besides what I already posted.)

1.Harry turns 16
2.The Ministry of Magic will deliver free of charge the "Guide to elementary home and personal defense" to all wizard familys. (We assume Harry will get one)
3.Harry will recieve his Owl's results. (Ordinary Wizarding Level's)
4.Harry will need new books for school, presumably we will find out what Wizard Professions he is looking into other than Auror. The same goes for the other 6th years.
5.A new DADA (Defence Against the Dark Arts) teacher will need to be found to replace yet another lost teacher from last year. Perhaps the real Mad-Eye?
6.Griffindor Quidditch Tryouts for open slots. They will also need a new captain
Currently it stands like this.
Seeker - Ginny Weasley
Keeper - Ron Weasley
Chasers - Alicia Snippet and Katie Bell
Beaters - Andrew Kirke and Jack Sloper
Assuming Harry is allowed back Ginny said she will try out for Chaser and the lineup will be.
One person will need to be found.
Seeker - Harry Potter
Keeper - Ron Weasley
Chasers - Ginny Weasley and Katie Bell
Beaters - Andrew Kirke and Jack Sloper
7. Neville will need to get a new wand
8.Dumbledors Army will either be desolved or continue presumably as a school club. Perhaps the name will be changed from Dumbledores Army to something like the DADA Club.
9.Draco will be on a war path, Even more than usual for two reasons. One Harry named his father as a death eater and Two for him and the DA turning him into something looking like a slug at the end or book 5 on the train home.
10.Major background info on Harrys family, Snape, and Voldemort will be revealed.
11.While buying new books for school Harry might visit the new Weasley Wizard Weezes.

[Mocha]

There will be a new Minister of Magic, no more Mr. Fudge.
It won't be Aurthor Weasley ((JK said so on her site))

- In books 6 and 7 we will find out exactly why JK killed off Sirius.
Oooooooh, inTEResting!!! :hyper:

- In books 6 and 7 we will find out why Dumbledore trusts Snape.
I've always wanted to know that!

- JK has said that giving away the form of Snape's boggart and patronus says too much. We'll definitely find out what Snape's worst fear is, and it'll be important.
Hmm, I have to go and re-read what Snape saw as his Boggart and Patronus....eeeek!

- Hermione and Draco will NOT end up together in book 6 or 7.
Who said they would!? LOL!!!!!!

-The reason Voldemort and Harry both didn't die when Voldemort tried to kill Harry, will be revealed.
Do you think that this has a major part in the book's plot?! Naaaah! :duh:

- We will see more of Draco's mother, Narcissa Malfoy, now that Lucius is busy.
:flamer:

- We will find out what happened to Sirius's motorbike.
Is this important?!

- It's very important in the plot that Harry has his mother's eyes, and that her wand was very good for charms.
And we've read this for about what? A dozen times or so in the books?!

The choice between what's right and what's easy will be a pillar of the plot in Harry's last 2 years at Hogwarts
Easy= joining Voldie and getting it over with. Right=Not joining Voldie...

- Harry's parents' profession will be a big part of the plot.
Ooooh!

- Something HUGE will be revealed about Lily Potter.
I didn't see this one coming...really :angel:



The description you posted that JK had behind her "Secret Door" is what the people at mugglenet call "The Lion-Man" I believe...

[Elfdaughter]

Aha - The info on Snape will be good....

[Mirkgirl]

- We will find out what happened to Sirius's motorbike.
Is this important?!
Well it's intriguing if nothing... it's how the books start after all... and also it's a sign of sirius' character really. Flying motorbike is something that requires the right mindset to have.

- JK has said that giving away the form of Snape's boggart and patronus says too much. We'll definitely find out what Snape's worst fear is, and it'll be important.
Well telling out someone's protector image and worst fear is always saying too much... what'd REALLY intrigue me is what he'd see in the mirror of Erised tho...

The choice between what's right and what's easy will be a pillar of the plot in Harry's last 2 years at Hogwarts
Easy= joining Voldie and getting it over with. Right=Not joining Voldie...
I'd say easy = give up... don't think join voldie is even a choice... I guess it'll have something to do with the profecy tho... maybe self-sacrifise?

- Hermione and Draco will NOT end up together in book 6 or 7. Who said they would!? LOL!!!!!!
I believe that's the movie advertising fault... and one has to admit that IRL the couple looks rather good. The guess this to happen in the book is idiotic tho

Any guesses on the new minister? That witch that was fascinated w/ harry's patronus and had a niece in Hogwarts seems like a likely choice to me... just throwing a guess there tho (:

[Elfdaughter]

Hmm... I would LOVE to know what Snape's boggart and Patronus would be...

As to the minister - I haven't a clue, though Mirky's idea seems reasonable...

[Ithildiel Noldoran]

Wow! I just can't wait to read the 6th book!! ;) The suspense is really killing me!!! :cool:

EDIT: I hope Lupin isn't the one who dies...I like him too muvh! Hey, maybe HE can be the New DADA teacher...He has been, after all, the best at the job, so far!! ;)

[Lady Melanie]

There will be a new Minister of Magic, no more Mr. Fudge.
Okay, if the minister is not going to be Arthur, could it Amelia Bones? Or it could even be Amos Diggory? Or it could even be Percy (shudder). I wonder how the minister is chosen?

Cho Chang will not be a romantic interest of Harry in Book 6, however there will be a "little romance" for Harry says JK.
Could this possibly be Ginny?

We will find out what happened to Sirius's motorbike.
This probably isnt important but it would be interesting to find out what happened to that bike. Maybe Hagrid still has it?

The choice between what's right and what's easy will be a pillar of the plot in Harry's last 2 years at Hogwarts
I agree with Mirkgirl here. I think that this revolves mainly around Harry giving up, leaving and not fulfilling the prophecy and fulfilling the prophecy and not quitting.

Harry's parents' profession will be a big part of the plot.
I wonder if they were aurors? But surely someone would have told Harry already if they were?

Hagrid, Lily, and James were in Gryffindor.
But surely Sirius and Lupin were in gryffindor too?

There's more to the cats in the story (Crookshanks, Mrs. Figg's cats, Mrs. Norris, etc.) than meets the eye.
I wonder what this could mean? They are all half-kneazle?

5.A new DADA (Defence Against the Dark Arts) teacher will need to be found to replace yet another lost teacher from last year. Perhaps the real Mad-Eye?
Perhaps Lupin?

[Tári Celebrindal]

Well, I was wondering, the stuff that will be explained in books 6 and 7...well, they're the ones that are left to explain, right? I mean, without reading these facts, I would be expecting those in the books because in a nutshell, those are the ones left that need explaining. :huh:

[Mocha]

Yup...I think lol

[Elijah's Girl]

Thanks for the info guys :) I am glad of this...My friend at school keeps bugging me about this lol

[Mouth Of Sauron]

This might have been posted in the previous 43 pages, but it means looking through them all!

Can someone explain this to me:

In book 4, it says that the maid came down in the morning to find all three Riddles dead, which I presume was Tom, and Mrs and Mr Riddle. But Tom is Lord V, so how did he come alive again? or was the 3rd person not Tom? :huh:

[Lady Melanie]

I have also wondered about this but as far as I know it hasnt been answered. Maybe LV made a copy of himself?

[The Scottish Elf]

When V's father found out V's mother was a witch, he left her, eventually to die after giving birth to V. His father then remarried, therefore the three Riddles killed were Voldemorts father and his father's "replacement family" - V's step-mother and step-brother (or possibly sister). Voldemort never hated his mother, but hated his muggle father for rejecting him, his mother and magic for a pure muggle family.

[Lady Melanie]

oh so thats why! thanks SE!!!!

[Mánalinya]

Personally, I don't think Voldemort's father ever remarried. In the first chapter of GoF it says, "Elderly Mr. and Mrs. Riddle and been rich, snobbish, and rude, and their grown-up son, Tom, had been even more so."

The way I understand it, the "grown-up son Tom" was Voldemort's father, who, after leaving Voldy's mother, went back to live with his parents.

I'm not sure if we're ever told exactly how old Voldemort was when he killed his father, but I don't think he was very old. In the previously quoted chapter it also says, "...the only person [Frank] had seen near the house on the day of the Riddles' deaths had been a teenage boy, a stranger, dark-haired and pale." I believe that this is Tom/Voldemort, probably still a student at Hogwarts, or recently graduated.

If this is the case, then the "grown-up son Tom" cannot possibly be his half-brother, because Voldemort was born first (his father's "first" marriage, if he had more than one). Also, that would mean that the "elderly Mr. Riddle" was really Voldemort's father, and I think there's a little too much age difference.

And you will also remember that Voldemort (I believe it was in the Chamber of Secrets), mentions that he was named after his father. This means that his father's name must have been Tom.

But anyway, that's just how I understood it.

~Linya :)

Edit: After posting the above, I just found another quote in the book:
[Voldemort speaking to Harry] "You see that house upon the hillside, Potter? My father lived there. My mother, a witch who lived here in this village fell in love with him. But he abandoned her when she told him what she was...he didn't like magic, my father...
"He left her and returned to his Muggle parents before I was even born, Potter, and she died giving birth to me, leaving me to be raised in a Muggle orphanage...but I vowed to find him...I revenged myself upon him, that fool who gave me his name...Tom Riddle..."
Goblet of Fire, pg. 560-561

[The Scottish Elf]

Yeah, that actually makes more sense than my explanation...I can't remember what I first thought when reading the book...probably the same thing as Lady Melanie, just too eager to get onto the rest of the book to care about it lol!!

[Mouth Of Sauron]

So Elderly Mr+Mrs Riddle and Tom was Voldemorts grandparents and father? Have I got that right? If it is right, then it makes sense.

Thanks for clearing that up. notworthy

[Lady Melanie]

I can't remember what I first thought when reading the book...probably the same thing as Lady Melanie, just too eager to get onto the rest of the book to care about it lol!!
yup....that was me! I just wanted to find out what happened next that I glanced over it! Thanks for the explanation Manalinya!!!

[Mirkgirl]

oddly enough I was certain it was the remarry thing but SE had answered before me :doh:

[Eowyn]

Edit: After posting the above, I just found another quote in the book:
[Voldemort speaking to Harry] "You see that house upon the hillside, Potter? My father lived there. My mother, a witch who lived here in this village fell in love with him. But he abandoned her when she told him what she was...he didn't like magic, my father...
"He left her and returned to his Muggle parents before I was even born, Potter, and she died giving birth to me, leaving me to be raised in a Muggle orphanage...but I vowed to find him...I revenged myself upon him, that fool who gave me his name...Tom Riddle..."
Goblet of Fire, pg. 560-561

yup that's it... I knew it was explained but I haven't got that book It's my favourite and I don't own a copy :o

[Mánalinya]

It's my favourite, too :). As much as I love them all, ever since reading GoF for the first time, I've always thought it was the best one.
I'm really looking foward to the movie, despite a few worries about how it'll turn out.

[Ithildiel Noldoran]

GoF was the first Harry Potter book I read-I got to read them alittle...upside down, I guess! lol -and I lived it!! I can't wait for the film...I hope it does the book justice!!

[The Scottish Elf]

I'm kinda worried about that, because GoF is such a long book, they're gonna have to skip loads of it out because, as its primarily a kids film, they can't have it 4 hours long... mecry It would be quite cool if it was though... :p

:o Eowyn, you don't have a copy of GoF?!?! Poor you. Go out and buy one now! I've actually got two copies of the first three and one each of the fourth and fifth :rolleyes: :p

[Mouth Of Sauron]

I had two copies of PS, one of CoS, one fo PoA, two of GoF, one of OotP. I had to buy another GoF coz my other one was falling apart the amount of thimes I had read it!

[The Scottish Elf]

Yes, my original PS/CoS were paperback and falling apart, so my mum bought my them and PoA in nice, fabric covered hardback copies with JKR's signature embossed in gold lettering on the front :grin: I bought the last two just after they came out, so had to be in hardback. I really should get a new GoF though...some of the pages are falling out! :rolleyes: At the rebirthing scene as way! mecry

[Eowyn]

I'm working on it I will get a copy just as soon as I find a cheap one. :grin:
your mum bought you what? They're expensive and nice and you don't read books like that! they're there for display! What happens if they get messed up when you read them?

I wonder why GoF seems to be the one that needs replacing lol ;)

[The Scottish Elf]

I know...I still kind of read my old ones :rolleyes: They look nice on my shelf! And I lent my PS copy to a friend and she split coffee and her brother split orange juice and a hundred other things on it and its all stained and wrinkly! mecry So I really needed another one...I read the PoA fancy copy yesterday! (the fact that my brother has permently stolen my original copy grr...he says he needs some of my books to make his bookshelf look more grownup, so he stole 7 of my books! My bookcase is overflowing anyway, so I guess its not that bad lol...)

Cause GoF is fab! I prefer OotP (just slightly, perhaps cause theres more of it;)) but I haven't had time to read it that much yet! When I first got it, I read it twice before letting any of the rest of my family read it - they took ages!!!

[Eriu]

I like each book for a different reason ^.^ I hated it when OoTP came out, I had to wait a month before I Got it,b ecause they only released it in hardcover and I couldn't afford it. (Being poor sucks, books a a privelage and a luxury as far as I'm concerned.) I notice a biggggggggggg change in Harry's feelings now. Rowling has done well advancing the teenage hero's life as we know it. Can't wait for the next chapter, but that brings us closer to the end! :o It never really ends, I mean look at where we are? Tolkien is passed over the sea (as I put it) and movies go on, but we keep dreaming...so when Rowling's books have their day, we'll go on dreaming...of a castle where anything is possible ;) Now if only I could someday be a writer such as that! *sighs and dreams* :blush: Glad there are some HP fans up here, finally came over this way, I'm always in the Pony.... O.o

[Elfdaughter]

EEK! OK, this may just be a rumour, but it may also be a massive spoiler - so look away now if you don't want to know!!!


SPOLIER












Remember how we were told that the prophecy could have been about either Harry or Neville? Well apparantley Harry dies in book 7 and Neville grows up to be the really powerful one. I'm not so sure, but JKR isn't saying anything to either confirm or deny it - this may be old news to you, it may not, but it's new to me....

[The Scottish Elf]

Ok, 1. It's a childrens book, I doubt Harry is gonna die, if not for that reason, but that JKR will probably be hunted down and murdered by angry fans otherwise! lol

2. It also says that The Dark Lord shall mark him as his equal (or something along those lines) so therefore - as V choose and tried to kill Harry - (and Dumbledore confirms this) the prophecy could only apply to Harry. She can't say outright that Harry won't die, because for many it would ruin the suspense, but I think it's highly unlikely at any rate.

[Elfdaughter]

Yeah, that's what I thought!! And I totally agree with number 1! Puls it'd be a bit of an anti-climax - we've followed Harry for so long, and Neville hasn't really been mentioned that much. I think it's just pure speculation.

[Lady Melanie]

My favourite book is GoF. I like OoTP but when I start reading GoF, I cant put it down, no matter how many times I have read it before. I always find something new in there to think over. lol. The wait for HBP is going to be terrible especially when it gets to about a month before it comes out and they put all the posters out and everything. I would break into a bookshop(I think the bookshops get it a week before but are absolutely not allowed to open the boxes?) just to get a copy before it came out because of the anticipation. Just joking!!!! :grin: :naughty: :grin:

[Lady Melanie]

sorry for double posting...missed the 15 minutes cutoff..
ED, will please post the link to where you found the info on the spoiler.
I have always thought that Harry will die in the 7th book to save the wizarding world from Voldemort. I know that fans around the world will probably go mad, I will as well, but I think that is just what has to happen. JKR has said that she will not be writing any other HP books after the 7th one. One possible explanation for this is that Harry is dead.

[Mánalinya]

Hm...
It's my personal opinion, also, that Harry will die. It's definately not a guaranteed - none of us but J.K. knows for sure what will happen - but I think it is a very likely event.
I've read a very fascinating editorial called the "Changeling Hypothesis" (I don't have the link right now, but if anyone's interested in reading it, let me know and I'll send it to you). I really think it makes a lot of sense - entirely too much sense - and according to it, the only way for Voldemort to die, is for Harry to die.

I just thought of something: you mentioned, SE, about how Voldemort marked Harry as his equal. Well, if this is so, and they are equal, then how can one of them kill the other? The prophecy states that, "either must die at the hand of the other for neither can live while the other survives." I believe that J.K. chose her words with great care. I think the fact that [the prophecy] never directly comes out and says, "one of them will/must kill the other" or "there will be only one surviver" is a clue in itself. We've seen evidence that Harry and Voldemort cannot both survive. The world just isn't big enough for the two of them. But, if both of them die, by each other's hand, the prophecy is fulfilled, right?

Another thing, that I'm sure I've mentioned somewhere before, is Dumbledore's line in OotP, when he says to Voldemort, "Indeed, your failure to understand that there are things much worse than death has always been your greatest weakness" (OotP, pg.) At first I thought he was only talking to Voldemort. But after I read it a couple more times, I've come to believe that, though he said it to Voldemort, it was also meant for Harry. Not that he was saying Harry already had this weakness, but as a hidden warning that he should guard against it.
We scarcely need any more reminders that Harry and Voldemort are very much alike. It's pointed out to us in pretty much every book. But Harry has a few things Voldemort doesn't (such as friends, love, etc.). I believe one of the keys to Harry defeating Voldemort is for him to overcome the weaknesses that they both could so easily share. One of these is the fear of death. I'm not sure that Voldemort will ever understand that concept, but in order for Harry to "win", I believe it is crucial that he [Harry] does.
And if he does; if he learns that there are worse things than death, and that death isn't so horrible and frightening after all, why should he not die? There are things worth dying for, and I think Harry will find this out. He's a hero. That is also pointed out throughout the books. He has a thing for "saving people". So what better than to die to save the world?

There's more I can say on this topic, but I have to go, so I'll stop for now ;).

~Linya

[The Scottish Elf]

I don't want Harry to die!

I'm still not sure...it all makes alot of sense, but it wouldn't be a "happy" ending for most people, and I think - as JKR doesn't plan to write any more books - she would want to finish the books completely - like in all the other books, you've got the Dumbledore talk and the Hogwarts express home to come back from after the climax. I still think its a children's book, and however adult it gets, an ending like that would be just too adult.

Oh, and could you send me/post the link for where you found the argument? Thanks :)

[Eowyn]

yes but I'd love to see her do it. I really don't think she will and if she does they'll never make it as a film :rolleyes: too scary for the little kids. The only characters deaths that I ever cry over are animals! for example All dogs go to heaven I am NEVER watching that again! However if the books or films killed of humans I never cared. Odd isn't it :huh: Linya I'd like the link too if you don't mind. Kinda want to put work off for a bit longer. oh and you haven't been back on Secret Alley to pick a character :(

[Eriu]

Dang, quite a speculation. :o Well however she ends it, well I'll be a there a readin' it fer sure. ANd I'll cry because it's come to an end. I cried at the end of LOTR, not for Frodo going away but because it ENDED and I hate that. Oh well, the "road goes ever on and on." With us :grin:

I went over to Secret Alley, erm I dunno if I can get into that. Playing a pre-done character. Eesh...I dunno, I'm weird....I did "me" up as "my" Slytherin character, yes yes my dark side. Not evil, just...a bit-different. You can see it over in my gallery if ya'll like ^.^ Anyway, very viable dicussion here. Hum....I'm wrapped up in several books right now. HP is one of them lol I love HP because it makes me laugh lol *taps fingers thinking now*

[Elfdaughter]

sorry for double posting...missed the 15 minutes cutoff..
ED, will please post the link to where you found the info on the spoiler.


Just something my friend said - I'll try to find out where she got it from.

[Tári Celebrindal]

I've read a very fascinating editorial called the "Changeling Hypothesis" (I don't have the link right now, but if anyone's interested in reading it, let me know and I'll send it to you).

:wave: I'm interested! Thanks in advance, Mánalinya!

Well, I think it will be amazing if JKR kills off Harry in the end, but it won't be totally unexpected. It's going to be sad, granted, but that possible situation reminds me of something said about heros, that it does not hurt if they die early, it even helps stamp them into people's memories, and makes them like gods...Harry dying would be tragic, but you know, if ever JKR does do it, you know it would be worth it.

[Mocha]

Mana, isn't that editorial on Mugglenet.com?? I could have sworn that I've read an editorial by that name over there....hmm....

[Eowyn]

mugglenet.com and darkmark.com both have some great theories.

[Eomund]

well, it is also possible that most of the chars except Ron, Mer, and Har would die....

and about 6th book somewhere(????) was sain that Dumbledore would die...

[Mocha]

http://cartoons.sev.com.au/Sev-Space/Hairy-Plopper/s775

Very funny comic about Harry Potter :p

[Eomund]

that is funny....you earn twice as much as he

[Lady Melanie]

hehehehehe, thats funny!!!
thanks Mocha!!!

[Mocha]

don't mention it ;)

lol, I like the way they did Snape's hair...very close to the real style :p

[Mánalinya]

The North Tower (at Mugglenet.com) has a couple articles about the "Changeling Hypothesis", but this is the original article that Maline's were based on: http://www.redhen-publications.com/Changeling.html. It's one of the most fascinating theories I've read (and believe me, I've read a few). Sorry it took me so long to find the URL ;).

Eowyn, about Secret Alley, I'm sorry I never got around to picking a character yet. I am still interested, I've just been incredibly busy lately. But I will try to do that as soon as I can ;). Are there still characters available?

Anyway, enjoy the article ;). Let me know what you think.

[The Scottish Elf]

SA's got loads of characters left, but I think that you should be able to make up someone from scratch if you want to, as long as you make up a plasible background and story. Of course, there are loads of characters who you know almost nothing about, and can develope the character however, so it doesn't really matter...At any rate, there are still lots of free characters.

I haven't read the article yet - it's in my favourites, and will be read as soon as I have time! lol

[Elfdaughter]

Yes, but we REALLY need main characters too!! We need a Harry, apart from anything else!!

[Eowyn]

firstly Mocha thanks for the link I've been trying to find that site for weeks! I couldn't remember what it was called :(

secondly Linya thanks for the link. That should stop me doing any work this morning :hyper: and as SE and ED have both told you there's loads of characters left so don't worry. ;) See look at me nt encouraging Linya to become a DE :grin: oooh actually that reminds me I have an amusing link
*disappears to find link*
found it! If you like that one there's another 6 but no sign of any new ones yet. btw best to read them in order.

http://www.deviantart.com/view/6817513/

[Eomund]

nice ones...

[Mocha]

Which site, Eowyn? The comic-strip one??? Sure, don't mention it ;) I'm just glad that I found people who loved it as much as I did :grin:


Don't you guys think that it's about time for Rowling add something new to her site?! Long time since any new stuff... *pouts*

[Lady Melanie]

i know!!! I wish she would update soon! Maybe at the end of the month she will update. Maybe we will get another clue to the 6th book!
*crosses her fingers and hopes*

[Eowyn]

ooooh don't get my hopes up! Hey has everyone seen HP-Lexicon's fantastic timeline! It's very good. Still lacking a lot of stuff but I assume it will be added later and all the important bits are up anyway. The links below ;)

http://www.hp-lexicon.org/timeline.html

btw Lady Melanie have you recently signed up on Secret Alley?

[Lady Melanie]

ummm...no. can you post the link to it please. Is it an rpg?

[Elfdaughter]

Yip. http://secretalley.proboards30.com

Sorry, Eowyn, but you were offline!! lol

[Lady Melanie]

sooo many characters, I dont know who to choose!

[Elijah's Girl]

Thats a cool site I am joining right now :) How do you spell Pansy's last name?

[Lady Melanie]

Parkinson?

[Elijah's Girl]

I dunno but I will use it thank you soooo much Lady Melanie :)

[Lady Melanie]

okay, it was my pleasure. I have applied for Rita Skeeter but I dont know how soon they will let me know.

[Elijah's Girl]

okay, it was my pleasure. I have applied for Rita Skeeter but I dont know how soon they will let me know.
Congrats :) I see you have become Rita!I saw your first post and I couldn't help but post back ;)

[Lady Melanie]

hehe, thanks but beware! Your'e secrets are never safe from me!!!

[Elijah's Girl]

lol but I can give you all of Potter's secrets!!!

[Mocha]

I knew that something was going to happen to JK's site today, since it's Halloween and such, so I went to mugglenet.net as soon as I came online to see if I were right...and I AM!!!!!!

JK OPENED HER DOOR!!!!

I'm opening it as I post this.... :hyper:


Btw, in order to open the door, you'd have to wait for Peeves to visit, which takes a couple of minutes...*is waiting*

[Eowyn]

Got it! ok chapter 14 is so about the dark arts teacher! and definately linked to that description she gave earlier.

[Mocha]

Are you sure? Some people say that chapter 14 is too late for an introduction of the DADA teacher...

I wonder what chapter six is going to be about...since it's got Draco's name on the title then I presume that something evil's gonna happen as soon as the story of the sixth book starts! :p

[Lady Melanie]

okay so there are 3 chapter titles.
Chapter 2 :Spinner's End
Chapter 6 :Draco's Detour
Chapter 14: Felix Felicis
Spinner's End? Something to do with a spider? Aragog maybe?
Draco's Detour? How can he take a detour?
Felix Felicis? I dont know if this is the new DADA teacher Eowyn. If it is introducing the character as the new DADA teacher, why would it be in chapter 14? Wouldn't it be earlier?

Oooooooooooooooo.... the suspense!
Now I am even more excited!!!!!!!
Hurry up and finish the book JKR!!!!

[Elijah's Girl]

do you think Draco is going to actually be nice? *gets a disgusted face* My Draco go Soft? I hope not. OMG I can't wait for this book this is almost as bad as waiting for the RotK EE lol

[Mocha]

'almost' being the keyword here :p

I'm so excited about getting my RoTK EE cause this time I can get the one that has the pressie with it...I didn't buy the former ones that had pressies so I'm so happy! :grin:

HP6 comes as the second thing on my list of "Things I can't wait till I get" :p

[Eowyn]

lol hadn't thought of comparing it to EE RotK but you've got a point ;)

I think Felix Felicis will be the DADA teacher you have to agree that he's the guy from the description at least!

and chapter 14 isn't necessarily late. Not if the chapters are short or it takes a while to get to Hogwarts. Although apparently this book will have Harry's shortest stay at the Dursleys which might mean he goes to stay at Spinner's End....
*kicks herself for not remembering that sooner*

plus they need to get their OWL results and apparently we get more stuff with Draco... she did cut out a scene at the Malfoy mansion which she said she may put in later... maybe that's it hmmmmm.... and I refuse to think of Draco as a good guy. Lucius Malfoy is his father for goodness sake!

[Lady Melanie]

Well Ive been looking at ppl's theories on Mugglenet. here are some:
Draco's detour: I had to look for "detour" in both my bilingual and monolingual dictionaries. A detour is not to go the direct, shortest way, but the way in which you deviate yourself not to go through the shortest path. Sounds ominous to me. Well, we already knew Draco was doomed, but some of us still had a little hope, if not for his redemption, at least for him to become an interesting character. But chapter 6 is too soon for him to switch sides, so certainly his "detour" will have a negative connotation of "deviation". Pity, really. At least I hope he'll be really cunning once in his life.
people are also saying that Spinners End could be a place. Some think that there is going to be an attack at the Dursleys and Harry will be taken to Spinners end.
Some people think that Felix F is a name of a spell... something to do about happy cats? (Latin meaning)
Apparently chapter 1 of book 6 has been written for 12 years, so most ppl reckon its backstory.



here's what fudge says:
Quote:
Quote:
< "Pettigrew died a hero's death. Eyewitnesses - Muggles, of course, we wiped their memories later - told us how Pettigrew cornered Black. They say he was sobbing, 'Lily and James, Sirius! How could you?' And then he went for his wand. Well, of course, Black was quicker. Blew Pettigrew to smirthereens . . .

and here's what sirius says:

Quote:
"Just before he transformed," said Black. "When I cornered
him, he yelled for the whole street to hear that I'd betrayed Lily and James.

sirius cornerd peter. what a better place to corner somebody than a dead end!

Spinners End?

[Eomund]

well, felix f is lucky or happy (at least my latin dictionary says that) but what if Draco would kill his father, become the most loyal servant to Dubbledore and then betray him in the end fighting harry....

[Eowyn]

oh please! That's never going to happen. Draco is not a good guy and hopefully never will be!
*crosses her fingers and starts chanting "Draco will not turn good!"*

spinner's end... flash backs... could be... hmmmm...

Felix Felicis could be a spell but... it doesn't make any sense for it to be that.... why would you want a spell for a happy cat? To use on McGonagall lol... oooh maybe Mrs Norris finds herself a lover lol oh dear I'm going to sit down and wait for the sugar to wear off. My mind is coming up with silly things now :hyper:

[Mocha]

lol *gives Eowyn a warm glass of water in attempy to calm her down a bit* ;)


Draco good? No friggin way!!!!! lol that'd be the day! lol
Felix might fit the description we got, but it's not always so...just remember that JKRowling always tries to make our heads spin...and this is no random act of the opposite ;)

[Lady Melanie]

lol mocha, when you said JKR like to make our heads spin, I immediately thought of spinners end.

[Mocha]

I know, I thought about it too and I was going to comment about it but then thought that it would have been not so funny :p glad that you found it interesting....though I think we're gonna go "chapter title ape" till we get more info from JKR :p

[Elijah's Girl]

oh please! That's never going to happen. Draco is not a good guy and hopefully never will be!
*crosses her fingers and starts chanting "Draco will not turn good!"*


*Joins in with the chant*
Well since this is going to be a shorter book than the 5th and they showed chapter 14 and there is probably around say 30 chapters....that gives me hope!!!! I am going to buy it the day it comes out!!!!

[Eomund]

well, who wont

[Eowyn]

Thank you for the warm water Mocha ;) Ive calmed down... a little :)

awww she wouldn't do that... would she? I mena why would she set it up so beautifully only to change the plan.... ok another theory then if Felix Felicis is a person then maybe it's the new minister for magic? Still think it'd be the DADA teacher though. GoF introduced the DADA teacher in chapter 13... haven't checked PoA yet.

oooh this is slightly random but I was collecting data for my final year project and I came across a funny species name Cancer Cruicius... (I think) I know there's a snail that has the Cruiciatus in the species name too lol oh and since the release of HP several species have been named after characters... like Dumbledore and Voldemort... I'll let you know if I find them ;)

[Mocha]

wow, that sounds so cool!!! I'd never thought that they'd be named like the HP characters!!! lol


Now, who'd like to calculate this with me? I've been thinking that on JKR's Eidenburgh(sp?) gathering, she said that she was halfway through writing Book6...now, the book is known to be less than Order of The Phoenix, so it's less than 800 right? If she's halfway through, then she's finished about 400, which leaves 400...if she writes one page a day, then she should be done by about this time next year...add a month or two for the editting and publishing...that leaves us with Christmas 2005!!!! :hyper:


What do you guys think? (lol, I've been having a lot of free time lately, could you have guessed that? :P )

[Lady Melanie]

I think that JKR is about 3 quarters a way through the book. And I also think it will be released in June/July 2005. Its the summer at that time (well in the northern hemisphere at any rate) and its holidays for most children. I dont know why I think this. I just have a feeling it will be released then.

[Mocha]

oh I so hope that it'll be right, LM!!! :hyper: :hyper:

[Eowyn]

It'll be next summer. LM have I discussed this with you before? Well I'll add another reason. JK's pregnant but she said it won't interfere this time so I think she's planning to have it completed before she gives birth which means christmas to easter time I think and so it would be summer again. :hyper: hopefully after I've finished my degree so there's no temptation during my finals. :o

ok Mocha Aranel would like to know why you haven't joined our role-playing site? Secret Alley?

[Lady Melanie]

ummmm I dont know Eowyn. Maybe we have discussed it before!
Ooooo yes Mocha, you must join SA! You can be terrorised by Rita Skeeter(yours truly.) Speaking of terrorising, I must get around to Bella!!!

Anyway..back on the book. The OoTP was released in July I think. Maybe it will be the same for HBP, maybe it wont. I wont be able to wait until Christmas 2005! I'll go crazy!!!

[Elijah's Girl]

I have just sent an owl about being Professor Sprout :)
So wish me luck lol

[Lady Melanie]

Good Luck Elijah's Girl!!!!
And yet, we still have no Harry!

[Elijah's Girl]

I know!! How can you have a role-playing site without a Potter?
Oh and I just read over the characters(we have no Ron for one) But teachers get a classroom I didn't see that the first time!

[Eomund]

role-playing??????

well i think (was OotP released last summer for you) that i received it in October...anyway who is the hbp

[Eowyn]

Yes Eomund I help run a Harry Potter role-play site called Secret Alley. I've mentioned it a few times before. tI'll post the link below if you'd like to have a looksie. :)
http://secretalley.proboards30.com/
LM a word of warning Bella will not tolerate annoying reporters... plus she's in hiding :p hehehehe! Anyway what in middle-earth would you ask her?

I have a question for people. in OotP Bella is appalled that Harry would speak the dark lord's name and mention that he's half-blood. How many (if any) of the DE's do you think know that Voldemort is a half-blood? Not many people actually connect him to Riddle so I don't think it's many... just wondering what other people's views are.

[Eomund]

maybe only his ,ost loyal srevant (wormy)))

[Mocha]

I think that only Dumbledore (sp?) Harry and a few selected others (don't know who for sure) know that fact...

[Elijah's Girl]

Well I am only on for a min. but I came to tell you I got my owl today...and you are now looking at the new Professor Sprout!!!

[Eowyn]

Ah welcome professor ;) lol I hope you set them lots of homework :evil:

[Eomund]

and you are who???

[Eowyn]

on Secret Alley? I'm Bellatrix Lestrange :evil: sooooo much fun. lol You should join us. ;)

[Eomund]

i joined but id say that there are so many CHARACTERS missing...(im finnigan)

[Eowyn]

oh that's who's finnigan lol I had noticed we had a new character. well welcome then ;) and steer clear my character and the dark lord and you should be fine ;)

anyway back to hp..

Mocha do yuo think Malfoy knows? he did have voldie's diary :huh:

[Lady Melanie]

hey great! a teacher!
I dont think that the DE's know that Voldie is a half-blood. Well they didnt until Harry shouted it at them. I mean it would like spoil his whole pure-blood theme.
Im Rita Skeeter by the way!!!

[Mocha]

Mocha do yuo think Malfoy knows? he did have voldie's diary :huh:

Well, there was no mentioning of it anywhere...But why would Malfoy know about it? Voldie controlled his diary and therefore it wouldn't have been easy for Malfoy to know such secrets about him. Remember that Voldie's diary isn't like any ordinary diary... ;)

I also believe that Malfoy didn't and still doesn't know about it. If he did know then he would have not followed Voldie in the first place, even if Voldie's that powerful...we all know how much of a racist Malfoy is :rolleyes:

[Elijah's Girl]

awww thanks everyone:rose:

[Eomund]

id say that maybe Voldies clean everyones memory who finds out!!!!!

[Eowyn]

why would he do that? They either continue to follow him or die lol anyway the DE's are only in it for the power. If they thought Dumbledore would give them more power they'd switch in a second :rolleyes: ok maybe that's not quite true but they're definately in it for the power to some extent :huh:

[The Scottish Elf]

Yeah, I don't think any of the DE would know - too scared to ask. I think because of his views they just assumed he was pureblood, especially as how he won't let any mudbloods or half-bloods join him, except in exceptional circumstances.

I don't know...they joined Voldemort because they shared his views on muggles, and also for power. Dumbledore doesn't want and won't give out that kind of power, but then even when Voldie was weakened and returned, they came back from "supporting" Dumbledore. I don't know...getting confused now...

I haven't been back to WotR in a while - so much has happened! I'm Narcissa on SA by the way, in case anyone was wondering :grin:

[Eowyn]

You haven't been on here for a while have you :) but I've been speaking to yuo on SA so I hadn't noticed lol

ok so we don't think the DE's know about voldie being a mudblood lol sorry it had to be said.

ok have you all heard about the boy who wouldn't answer the exam question because it was about the Harry Potter books. It was worth 30% of the exam :rolleyes: the reports below
http://iol.co.za/index.php?set_id=1&click_id=13&art_id=qw1099314721930B232

[Mocha]

lol, yeah I read about that! I mean, even if I believed that a book is against my beliefs in a way, then I'd give them my own pov about it...I'd never igore the question once and for all!!! :S :S :S

[Eowyn]

I know it's stupid isn't it lol I'd never risk failing an exam just because I didn't feel I could morally answer the question :rolleyes:

[Eomund]

depends in what....

[Eowyn]

well it's in English but would you really fail an exam just because you felt the question was immoral? especially in a language subject which so many employers value?

Anyone got any news about book 6?

[Eomund]

Does it mean that i know the main chars???

[Lady Melanie]

Well I dont think the guy failed the exam.It was all over the news because it happened here. The thing is he had been reading the book in class the whole year. Why didnt he say something about it before the exam? He must have had to answer questions about it in literature tests? I think he was probably looking for attention.

[Eowyn]

I bet it was an excuse because he couldn't answer the question :rolleyes: lol

[Eomund]

maybe but maybe not....maybe he wanted it... and in SA, we must rob students

[Elijah's Girl]

um....my pc blocked SecretAlley and I can't go there anymore...I don't know how to send an owl to Albus and I need to make a resignation letter...what should I do?

[Lady Melanie]

Eomund.... I dont understand your reply. Do you mean he wanted the attention? In SA, we must rob students? Of what exactly?

[Eomund]

Eomund.... I dont understand your reply. Do you mean he wanted the attention? In SA, we must rob students? Of what exactly?


just students...

but maybe he did WANT attention and he believed in his believings... I think that if one fool of your class would say that LOTR is unetchical you would do something...

[Eowyn]

um....my pc blocked SecretAlley and I can't go there anymore...I don't know how to send an owl to Albus and I need to make a resignation letter...what should I do?

EG if you don't want the character anymore just let me know because I'm admin on there so I can delete the account and such :) Your computers just mean why would it block SA?

[Eomund]

you - a mod...

UNFAIR

BTW: Who was or is EG???