The Ring

[Orkybash]

Anyone else seen this? I saw it and loved every minute of it. It's just my kind of storytelling.

Of course, the only downside is I've only got until Friday to live... :p

[Lord Raistlin]

It was a chinese movie

[Sindarin]

It was a pretty good film. The ending really freaked me out. :elfeek:

[Orkybash]

Originally posted by Lord Raistlin
It was a chinese movie

Not anymore! Haven't you heard of the remake?

And BTW, the original Ring was Japanese, not Chinese.

[Belaqua]

Is this a new film, 'cause i saw a film called "ring" in the tv guide and it sounds a lot like the one you're talking about. Except its on the tv on filmfour on thursday. But i've seen one on the net called "the ring" thats coming to cinemas. BTW, the one on the tv was made in 1998.

[Ronin]

well, just to explain a little bit:
originally, The Ring (Ringu) was a Japanese atmospheric horror film that was made in 1998. Ringu 2 (first sequel) was made in 1998 as well and then Ringu 0: Baasudei (second sequel) came out in 2000. became a smash hit throughout Asia and a small cult hit in the English speaking world. and of course...then the American remake!!

completely agree Orky, loved everything single minute of the hour i was in the theatre...wonderful, wonderful movie...Naomi Watts was absolutely brilliant in it. can't really say enough about how incredible every aspect of the movie was. but the frights....damn good and damn original :grin:
btw...i was supposed to die 2 days ago :rolleyes: ;)

[Nessa]

roflmao

I saw it a few days ago, liked it very much! There were a few moments that scared me.......... a little....... but not as much as the friend I was with. :rolleyes: She screamed her head off, I had to smack the girl a few times. ;) lol

[Little Devil]

Whats it about?

[Lord Raistlin]

ghost movie are cool!

[Gowpon]

Originally posted by Lord Raistlin
It was a chinese movie

Can't you distinguish the difference? It's Japanses...but an American version...

I heard that it's hella scary...:o

[Orkybash]

Originally posted by Little Devil
Whats it about?

A weird, nightmarish videotape that kills you when you watch it. After you finish the phone rings and a voice on the other end says you have seven days to live.

No, I didn't give anything away there, they establish all that within the first five minutes of the movie!

[Ronin]

Pretty much it....but a little more than that....fantastic movie itself, and then a great horror story.

a must see! :grin:

[Catz]

mmmm ive heard a lot of good stuff about it....course im still waiting for it to be released here:rolleyes: pfbbt lol ...as per usual......but it sounds like my kind of movie:thumbs: and i like Naomi Watts....fine actress...
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[Ronin]

yeah, she is pretty bloody marvelous :grin:
'd u ever see the Japanese original kitty?

[Catz]

sure did....the bit with the well was disgusting, wasnt it? i mean....under the circumstances, would you jump in??? uggggghhhhhh just thinking about it makes my flesh creep...tho ive not seen the sequel
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[Ronin]

lol...well, in the American version ms. Naomi didn't exactly jump in....must see the Japanese version after all ;) lol

[Catz]

mmm you must...just as i have to see the american one.....when they finally release it here..........
incredibly atmosheric......not a jump up and scream movie but a slow creeping horror movie.....a half a worm in your apple movie ;) lol
:catz:

[Ronin]

lol...true enough, tho i believe the American version...while creating a bloody amazing atmosphere...also relies on a few heavy scares...but nothing that it feels forced. love to hear what u think of it.

[Catz]

yeah i very much want to see it....itll be interesting to be able to compare the two, from pretty much polar opposite styles.
Japanese horror tends to rely more on the sloooow build up of tension.....till youre sure that that was waaaaay too easy but youre not sue why, and youre on the edge of your seat waiting to find out lol
i love pychological horror:naughty: ;) lol
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[Ronin]

oh, it is that...one reason why i want try and get more involved with Japanese horror, love that slow psychological buildup...i mean, look at stock American films...don't u feel sorry for me ;) lol

[Catz]

lol quit fishing for sympathy you!!:rolleyes: lol
im trying to get hold of the 2nd sequel at the moment...(the japanese one)i always find theres something flesh crawling about oriental horror movies.....not in yer face....but things like what they leave out, if you get what i mean.......like a slug on bare skin.......*shivers*
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[Brindlescruff]

I was terrified....I screamed a LOT...I was supposed to die last night, though, and I'm still here....

[Gowpon]

lol lol lol lol

Seems like it's really scary...I won't pay 7 dollars to scare myself...:naughty:

But I think the American version is better than the Japanses one cuz people have more money here, so they can work on those special effect stuff more.

[Catz]

well no thats not true....effects dont make a film scary...its knowing whats frightening that makes a film scary...not seeing is always worse than seeing.....not knowing is worse than knowing.....the unknown is scary...its that half worm in the apple....or the cold chill of something crawling on your bare skin....;) :cool:
its that skin crawling well scene lol
i loved the japanese version...they didnt have much in the way of effects but they used what they had well...
:catz:

[Ronin]

absolutely, we've been given example after example that money does not a good movie make. if it were true...American film industry would have far much more kudos ;)
however, in the case of The Ring...the FX actually added to the depth of fright instead of simply providing cheap thrills. glad u enjoyed it as much as i brindle! and gowpon...so worth the 7 bucks mate :grin:

ach...i need more japanese films in my diet!! :rolleyes:

[Catz]

yeah if that were true the SW prequels would be GOOD movies lol lol
ive gotta see the american ring.....just to compare the two.
and yeah Ronin....its fascinating to see the different path that Japanese film has taken from American mainstream film.....a different sensibility entirely....
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[Ronin]

different culture, different walk...thats why i'm always fascinated by foreign movies...always an injection of some part of life that we're missing here in the States.

lol...if FX made good movies...the SW prequels would be Oscar winners!! hmmm...kind of slap in the face that they don't win for FX tech specs don't u think? :rolleyes: ;)

[Catz]

yeah its a breath of fresh air to see another way of looking.....like the lightness of touch that good French movies all have in common....its a quirky gentle touch that very few american movies can muster....or the mordant wit of british film.....dryer than London gin.......and while the pervasive nature of American pop culture means that almost no movie today is free of some american references, im glad to see that there are still distinct differences in movies
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[Ilmarë]

Ok.. Japanese horror.. not something i know a whole lot about. Can u reccommend anything for me to watch as a starter?

[Catz]

well to be honest Ring is probably as good a place to start as anywhere.....still has the japanese flavour but isnt as obscure as some can be...plus with the release of the american version its easy to get hold of...tho the same cant be said for the first sequel which im STILL trying to find lol
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[Ilmarë]

lol Lord knows how long it'll be before we get The Ring here... if at all... but i'll try to track it down. Thanks Catz!
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[Luthien]

Oh my gosh! I am the hugest scary movie freak and that movie scared me like crazy! Get this I covered my eyes a few times AND I screamed once and I haven't done either of those since I was four. Very good movie! :thumbs:

[Ronin]

Thats fantastic Luthien...always great to hear how wonderful movies affect us!! especially how they can scare us silly :grin:

[Catz]

hmmm now i have to wait to get to see the american version.....ive heard heaps and heaps of good stuff about it....*sighs* now i just have to wait.........and wait.............and wait.........and wait......lol:rolleyes: lol
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[Ronin]

awwww....poor thing...lol :thumbs: ;)

[Catz]

your sympathy overwhelms me honey:rolleyes: lol roflmao lol
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[Ronin]

oh, but it always does lol ;)

[Catz]

oh always honey:rolleyes: lol roflmao lol
so just to give me an idea of how long im gonna have to wait.....when was the American version released in the States?
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[Ilmarë]

lol nah.. really sweetie... you're just overwhelming...period ;) lol lol. Really looking forward to seeing this... next year sometime:angry: lol lol

[Ronin]

American version was released October 18th i do believe.

poor things...y'all must really hate these late release dates ;) lol

[Catz]

pfbbt pfbbt lol i live in hope.....its already been released in Oz so if theres any justice in the world at all, it shouldnt be too long till it gets here.....fingies crossed;)
:catz:

[Ilmarë]

Yeah... double thatpfbbt ... late release dates for me are... generally... 2 or 3 months after they're released in London.. unless its a huge film.... but pfbbt again!

[A! Elbereth]

I went to see The Ring last night..... I still would say Jeepers Creepers was far more scary. This film just made you jump through the ceiling... I swear my heart almost stopped at the beginning... *shivers* It wasn't as bad as some movies. But it was good, and when I came home I made sure to stay clear away from the 5 TVs in my house.... :elfeek: :o

I am one of those people who usually aren't affected by horror films, but I too ALMOST covered my eyes because I had a feeling they would show that girl's face from the beginning again.... Katie I think her name was... the faces scared me....

The ending where 'you-know-what' comes out of the 'you-know-what' wasn't as scary as I though it would be though lol

Naomi Watts has very close resemblance to Nicole Kidman...

[Catz]

from what ive seen and heard the american movie sticks very closely to the japanese version......which is excellent..........im just wondering if having seen the japanese one a few times will lessen the impact a bit........but we shall see.......SOON hopefully lol lol
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[Ilmarë]

:grin: Have managed to track down a copy of the Japanese version on dvd!!! SO looking forward to seeing it!

[Akiba]

Originally posted by A! Elbereth

The ending where 'you-know-what' comes out of the 'you-know-what' wasn't as scary as I though it would be though lol

really cause that was the scariest part for me , the movie itself wasn't as scary as I thought it would be but it was still really good I stayed clear of the tvs that night too but my little cousin came over and turned one on without me knowing and it was all static so automatically I thought "Samara!!!!" it was scary but it wore off after about an hour then I thought about it and it didn't seem scary at all (the movie)

[Ronin]

lol...i love that...was definitely the best scare movie of the year...even of the past few years...thing is, holds up as a movie, excellent stuff :grin:

[Catz]

what ill be interested to see......and what seems to be the case, is whether or not the American version can do as the Japanese one does.....and scare you silly with nothing much......its all build up and atmosphere.....like fear itself........cant wait to see this.......
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[Ilmarë]

Hmm.. ok.. i've now seen the Japanese version... and i have to say i was pretty disappointed in it. I LOVE psychological horrors...which build up and turn the screw... but i didn't find this very unnerving at all. The tv images of the well were a bit unsettling ... and the bit with you-know-who- crawling thru the you-know-what.... but that's it. Spent most of my time thinking what a bad mother the main character was!! Can't wait to see the American version to compare.

[Ronin]

wait....did u see The Ring or Ringu?

[Catz]

well as i say.......theres a certain mindset to japanese film........it can be difficult for westerners to get involved in it if they arent used to it........plus much of the build up comes from the flouting of Japanese convention...........but i find i still have certain images from that movie in my head as clear as day.........but being a person who draws, i tend to be quite visual................the japanese version has quite a cult following tho i didnt enjoy the sequel, but after all, we all have different tastes.......................itd be a boring world if we all agreed:cool:
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[Tári Celebrindal]

i saw the japanese film (ringu) way before i knew there was going to be an american version. i've seen the ring a week ago, and i have to say i liked ringu better. i thought there were just too many loud noises in the ring, and i did jump out of my seat a few times because of it but...i thought i had more fun with ringu. it was sort of campy but it freaked me out. maybe it's because the element of surprise was still there.

[Catz]

mmm Tári youve put your finger on why it was so creepy for me too there.........it was so ordinary looking......and kind of amatuerish looking tho that suited the story i felt......it almost seemed corny........yet this weird stuff keeps happening...never anything huge......but instead, a piling of one seemingly inconsequential thing on another......a slow process that i found genuinely unsettling......but like i say.....different strokes ;)
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[Ilmarë]

Yeah.. just as well we don't all like the same thing.. would be so boring.
It was Ringu i saw, hon...and i do understand why it perhaps was unsettling for you guys... it just wasn't as unsettling as i expected or hoped for.... and i don't need loud noises to unsettle me... in fact.. much better if there aren't any;) :grin:
Will be very interesting to compare the two versions tho.

[Ronin]

have yet to Ringu...must....see.....it....:fanboy:

[Brindlescruff]

The Ring made me lose sleep and therefore I am angered by it.

Was good overall, though. But I hated the little boy.

~brin

[TheRingBearer]

The original looks more freaky but i haven't seen neither

[Galadhrim]

Aaaaargh! I'm so stupid! *bangs head against wall* The Ring scared the hell out of me, and then I go and read all this! Someone won't sleep again tonight... I want my mommy... mecry

Seriously, I loved the movie. It's so brilliant and creepy. But I was told the original version is whey scarier than the american one. I will NOT be seeing that one... :elfeek:

[Tári Celebrindal]

oh but you should!!! :thumbs:
you only live once... lol

[Blind-Guard]

I saw the original, SCARY! I wonder how the new version is.

[Galadhrim]

Originally posted by Tári Celebrindal
oh but you should!!! :thumbs:
you only live once... lol

Exactly. And I'd rather not deliberately scare myself to death with a movie... roflmao

[TheRingBearer]

O.k give me your honest opinions. Should I see this film over half term?

[Catz]

lol which one?
but in all seriousness Ringu is excellent........and from what ive heard Ring is fabulous too so id say yeah.........see either or both lol
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[TheRingBearer]

Oh yeah sorry I meant the new one as its out at the cinema. Right then i probably will, no doubt i'll be getting bored.

[Blind-Guard]

Well, if the Ring is anywhere nere the feeling the original has to me it has to be scary. And I thought Nightmare on Elmstreet was scary! lol

[Tári Celebrindal]

i suggest you watch the japanese version first, if you haven't seen both.

[Catz]

mmm agreed.......ive just come back from seeing the US version and was pleasantly surprised........the Japanese version is simpler..........thats no disrespect to that movie either.....it was first so the US version HAD to add a bit to it........and i think the substitutions that were made(those whove seen both know what i mean) made sense for an american/western audience.......i must admit at first, for the first half hour or so, i thought "OMG theyve just copied it" but then the changes started.......and yeah, the US version led you along a little more than the Japanese on.......sort of explained itself more.........but it didnt detract from the story........and the US version DID rely a little much on the BOO!!!! moments, but i expected far worse so i didnt mind that........it was overall a lovely little homage..........they obviously loved the original.......those little touches, like the Japanese scroll painting in the house.......of a volcano, or the lighting of the scene with the little boy in his cousins room, or the use of the rain.........all in all well worth seeing

[Tári Celebrindal]

catz, have you seen ringu 2? the us version put ringu 1 and 2 together in the ring.

maybe that's why i found the american version lacking. they compressed 2 movies in two hours and of course they had to remove details from the separate movies.

but i have to agree with you that the little touches that the ring added were nice. i especially liked the horse scene; although i admit i found it too gruesome (what happened to the horse), it was a touch befitting of a scary movie.

[Arwen Undomiel]

i didn't think the ring was very scary and apart from the end of the film, i wasn't at all frightened or impressed - although i would much like to see the japanese version 'cos i've heard it's superior and far more chilling. how was ringu 2 incorporated into the new version of the ring, tári?

[Tári Celebrindal]

the medical side of the ring was from ringu 2, also the girl in the mental institution who was afraid of the tv; and the explanation on why the videotape was killing anyone who watches it.

i don't think i explained it very well...but i've forgotten quite a bit from the ring already, and all i could clearly remember is the japanese version :blush: . you'll really have to see for yourself...:grin:

[Arwen Undomiel]

errrrm... okay, i have to clarify one thing that i never fully understood about the ending; rachel wasn't killed because she copied the tape after watching it, and that's why aidan's copying it at the end, right??? so, in order to survive, each person who watches it just has to copy the tape?

[Tári Celebrindal]

Yes, exactly! :grin: That's one of the most important events of the movie. The Japanese title, when translated into english, means Ring , and refers to the ringing of the phone after watching the tape AND the figurative ring the tape makes: sort of like a ripple in a pond, it goes on and on and never ends because a copy needs to be made (Like what Rachel did) and passed on to the next person.

The English title referred to the mouth of the well when seen from below ("When you die you see the ring").

It is also interesting to note that in Ringu, the woman gave the copy she made to her dad in order to save her son (thus creating more emotional impact) but in The Ring they didn't show who Rachel gave the tape to.

[Little Devil]

I've seen the trailer several times and it really freaked me out, but it looks really good though.

[Arwen Undomiel]

i think it's all a bit stoooopid, with the copying-of-the-tape-to-survive and all... :(

[Catz]

well that IS a matter of opinion............if you look at it, its as logical if not more so than most other horror/ghost movies......and in fact i found that the one part of the american movie that i liked least.......the way they tried to explain things.......in Ringu, it happened......you just had to accept it.......you have to suspend your disbelief......be willing to exist in a time and place where such things can happen...and engage your own imagination
oh and btw.........its not just copying the tape that does it......its copying it and then getting another person to see it......thus spreading the cancer of the tape......making the victim an accomplice in the crime........tainting the innocence into evil to save itself........made an ally of Samara.....i thought it was very neat........very twisted and ironic
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[Arwen Undomiel]

hmmm, maybe i need to watch 'ringu' to be convinced. i know it was on terrestrial t.v. last year, so it'll hopefully be shown again some time soon.

[Lady Aerowen]

Well, just last night I rented and watched The Ring. Now, this was a movie. It wasn't as complicated as I've seen some, but you had to remember things about the tree, the Tape, the Phonecalls, ect. lol One thing about this movie, there was a slight pattern in the sound. There'd be a period of time towards the end of a scene, where it got quiet, but you wouldn't notice (or rather, I didn't..) and then the beginning of the next scene, something would slam. ;) I'd also have to admit, that time she crawled out of that TV...jeez. Well, what did you guys think of the movie?

~The Lady Aerowen

[Grima Wormtongue]

meh i voted very good, althoguh id more of put it inbetween average and very good. there was some really good stuff in it, very wierd movie which i like, but IMO they relied too much on startling loud noises to scare. and the part when she got out of the tv was kinda cheesy. i bought it yesterday, i liked it and it was good but some prts i disliked. i also tried watchign ring 2 last night but it was movieng kinda slow and i was tired. and im currentyl DLing ring 0 which is supposed to be REALLY good.

[Catz]

ok guys.......we already have an active thread on the Ring and Ringu, so i dont think we need another one........so im gonna merge this with it
thanks
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[Woodland Gal]

has anyone seen that movie???... i thought it was quite scary nstuff but there was some parts i didnt understand lol....they never said who had made the tape......what the little girls problem was lol.....
but still it was a kool movie anyone agree?
i was like:mmmm:

i thouht that when the girl died...the way she loked was just not right!:o
:stomper:

[Bonos-Girl]

i saw the trailer again today...i really have to watch it but it looks really scary...:elfeek:.....

[Enelya]

i loved that movie soooooo much.but 7 days after i saw it i seriously was scared to death(im suprised i didn't die that wayroflmao )

[Morgothian]

I hated this movie what made sence nothing who was who and why did they do that, Im very confused

[Galadhrim]

Well, I wanted to vote for "very good", but accidentally ended up voting for "best". Well, no matter, I do love the movie.
And I'm still gathering courage to watch the original. I'm almost there... *gulp*

Morgothian - if you make your questions a bit clearer, maybe someone can answer any of them? Or at least share their opinion.

Oh, and Enelya - roflmao. I know exactly what you mean... lol

[Ronin]

aye....shoot away Morgothian, i'm sure we could clear up a few things

[Enelya]

im glad im not the only one Galadhrimlol

[Bonos-Girl]

ok..i saw it earlier (i say saw...i had my hands covering my hands for most of it)...it was really cool...but treally scary..it didn't help there were only 5 of us in the cinema and we were all really giggly...y'know when you're really scared you go all kidna giggly? well...by the end we were all doing that! lol

it was really cool though...but i didn't want Noah to die...out of all teh people in the film, the annoying mother, the freaky kid who seems surprised by what they did even though he diodn't tell them what he knew...and Noah dies...he was so cool....

[Enelya]

yah i wish noah didnt die, he was cool

[Arwen Undomiel]

yeh, he was, like, the only good thing in it! lol lol

[Bonos-Girl]

lol...it was so scary when samara came out of the TV...i was screaming run at him....he was just crawling....idiot! lol he was :flamer: hot though!!

[Woodland Gal]

yea thats what i was saying why didnt the run?....he like half crawled and tripped a few times.......yea i hate dit when she came out of the tv ...i was freaked out lol...

[Bonos-Girl]

with her hair over her face and stuff.....she reminded me of Rebecca (Kate?'s friend at the beginning)

[Enelya]

that scared me so bad. but did you see her feet they were like so nasty an wrinkly, though that may just have to her being trapped in a well for like a week.

[Bonos-Girl]

i know...it was gross....eugh.....it must've been awful trapped in a well for a week though...just slowly dying....

[Woodland Gal]

i no when i saw becca i was like she looks like samara!...quite scary and weird...yea it mustve been gross...yuck

[Arwen Undomiel]

yeh, like samara's coming out of the telly at noah, and the idiot just stares at her whilst scrambling backwards - run for the friggin' door, you arse!!! lollol

[Enelya]

yah i dont get why he didnt just runlol

[Arwen Undomiel]

films, eh??? they never change... :snooze: lol lol

[Bonos-Girl]

if he ran he might have stayed alive...but she would've got him in the end.....

[Enelya]

true, but still it just didnt make sense why he didnt run though

[Arwen Undomiel]

wouldn't he have survived if he'd managed to get to rachel's house and copy the tape???

[Enelya]

but see they woudnt have known to make a copy unless he died.......this is confusing me:p

[Bonos-Girl]

yep...she only worked out that to survive you neeeded to copy the tape by thinking of what she did that Noah didn't and seeing the tape under the chair (was it a chair? i can't remember...)

although...if he'd escaped she'd have known that he'd almost been killed and they may have worked it out...but he wouldn't have been able to go to sleep or anything for however long it took....hed probabnly have dies anyways...

[Arwen Undomiel]

see?! the whole film's just stooopid... lol lol

[Bonos-Girl]

how does that mena that the film is stoopid?

it just means that unfortunately Noah would probably have died anywys...

[Enelya]

besides wouldnt it be to late for him to make the tape? cuz they only get a week.

[Bonos-Girl]

exactly, if he hadn't been killed then then he'd only have a few hours or summat left to work it out....

[Arwen Undomiel]

Originally posted by Bonos-Girl
how does that mena that the film is stoopid?

it just means that unfortunately Noah would probably have died anywys...

because it leaves too many questions and what-ifs (highlighted by the fact that we ourselves can't come to one conclusion about what would have happened if noah had legged it outa his apartment)... and i thought the film was utter ****, so, in my opinion, it IS stupid... lol lol lol

[Enelya]

i can tell that you loooooooved that movielol ;) jkjk

[Arwen Undomiel]

yeh... like a hole in the head. roflmao roflmao

[Bonos-Girl]

but surely all films have 'what if' elements..you can't say that because people can't decide what would happen if.... taht its dumb.

in that case history is dumb, there are many what ifs and noone can say for sure what would have happened.

[Arwen Undomiel]

...hence the fact that i said i thought the film was stupid coz i disliked it so much...

[Bonos-Girl]

i don't get it.....nevermind...

[Arwen Undomiel]

right... FOR ME, the whole film is stupid coz i thought it was cack, and the ending was also a load of tripe.

[Enelya]

do i need to separate you two?lol jkjkjkjk

[Arwen Undomiel]

not at all... i'm just clarifying what i was saying earlier for BG.

[Catz]

well, saying its cack isnt really telling us much is it? while were all entitled to an opinion, its also nice to have some reasoning to back them up
ok you say that you disliked the open endedness of it, but i think thats WHY most people......and definitely myself, liked it........thats real........one of the things that i truely loathe about your typical hollywood horror movie is the " and now we explain the whole thing for the benefit of the hard of understanding" scene........i dislike being patronised by a movie....and it was refreshing in this case that the viewer was left to draw thier own conclusions
and the ending is another correspondance with the title.......its another "ring".............Samaras evil spreading out like ripples from the centre.......so i thought it was a good finish
i also loved the fact that the original in particular, but the remake too........didnt have to rely on gore, which frankly gets really tired after a while......it relied more on the images.......unsettling and surreal.........who can forget the smile on the face of the woman brushing her hair?
Killing Noah also added to it because you thought that it was over...........that theyd made it. cos shed lived so you thought that he would........and because hes the last person you expect to die........rather than being number three in the teenagers in peril, due to get it in various messy ways horror genre lol
but yes......if you want a "BOO!!!" horror movie then you wont like this......this is far more subtle than the bogey man with the knife picking off the dimwitted teens one by one.......not that they cant be fun.........theyre just not great movies
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[Galadhrim]

Originally posted by Catz
one of the things that i truely loathe about your typical hollywood horror movie is the " and now we explain the whole thing for the benefit of the hard of understanding" scene........i dislike being patronised by a movie....and it was refreshing in this case that the viewer was left to draw thier own conclusions


*gives Catz a standing ovation*
That is exactly what I hate most about Hollywood horror movies! verymad

Originally posted by Catz
Killing Noah also added to it because you thought that it was over...........that theyd made it. cos shed lived so you thought that he would........and because hes the last person you expect to die........

I completely agree. I was already all "Ah, here we go, they're holding hands, stupid hollywood ending, argh...!" and then they go and kill Noah. Great ending, if you ask me... :thumbs:

[Arwen Undomiel]

catz, i've already given my reasons disliking 'the ring' earlier on in this thread, so i see no point in re-iterating myself. :rolleyes: in my opinion, it IS tripe, and i know i'm not the only one. FOR ME, this film wasn't frightening nor chilling; wasn't stimulating nor thrilling, and certainly wasn't anything more than hype. :snooze: so, for my part, end of.

[Bonos-Girl]

wow! that was a great post/speech Catz!!

i totally agre...although it would have been nice to end it after she was rescued from the well so that Noah wouldn't have died. it made it a better and more thrilling and suspensful film....

the only thing i don't understand was why did she get pushed in teh well after she had copied the tape? surely she wouldn't have been killed so why bother pushing her into the well? did samara just want to be found or something?

[Galadhrim]

I was wondering the same thing, Bonos-Girl. It made sense while I thought it was going to be one of those 'the ghost just wants to be free' things, but as that wasn't the case... :huh:

[Bonos-Girl]

she wanted to be heard....so why did the woman get thrown into the well? why not Noah?

[Catz]

well..........my take on it is that she was a threat to Samara.......because Samara was linked to her son.....the implication being that he inherited his pyschic abilities from his mother.........which means that she was the one person likely to figure out how to stop her from spreading her evil, so tipping her into the well was an attempt to kill her......i dont think Samaras motive was ever to be heard.......it was to revenge herself on the world
thats one area where i preferred the original.........in that, she actually went into the well voluntarily, because they thought that finding Samaras remains and giving them proper burial would end the evil.......heheh but the hair in the water is almost enought to put you off wet hair for life isnt it
:catz:

[Galadhrim]

Yeah, that makes sense, Catz. :thumbs:

And the wet hair - oh yeah! Quite... ew...

[Bonos-Girl]

yep...i was scared of taking a shower after i saw it cos there's loads hair round the plug hole...yech! lol

that makes a lot of sense thaks Catz! i wanna see the original now...although i kinda dont cos i'll be really scared as well....