Anne Rice's Vampire Chronicles...heard of 'em? ;-)

[Lady Aerowen]

Tolkien is first with me, still, but some other books I have read recently have been the Vampire Chronicles by Anne Rice. If you haven't read them before, I am suggesting you do if you like..well vampires and immortality and things like that ;-)
This is actually a series..almost neverending it seems, because tomorrow (October 29th) she is coming out with another one. *falls over* The Series:
Interview with the Vampire
The Vampire Lestat
The Queen of the D***** (Erm..dont know if we are allowed to say it and all ;) You might know this one as the recent movie)
The Tale of the Body Thief
Memnoch The Devil
The Vampire Armand
Merrick
And some others..and then the newest one, coming out tomorrow is Blackwood Farm.

Hehe hope some of you know what I am talking about here. :)

[Daughter of Finarfin]

I like most of the Vampire Chronicals, but I could not stand Tale of the Body Thief. I think it was because it didn't feature the other vampires enough, and I don't really like David for some reason. You forgot to mention Pandora, which was very good IMO. I have yet to read Blood and Gold, the one about Marius, and he was one of my favorites, so I am going to get it soon.

[Lady Aerowen]

lol Well, I actually didn't like Pandora that much..and Tale of the Body Thief was bleh..*nods* David was bleh, too. Hehe It was kinda like...telling the story, in a series, of a totally new character that they barely mentioned in any other book.
Daughter of Finarfin- I take it Pandora was your favourite, hmm? I personally liked The Vampire Lestat or Queen of the *blep* ;) .

Are there any more of you out there who have read them? Tell your favourite one and some of your opinion on the worst/best in your opinion! :)

~Aerowen

[Daughter of Finarfin]

Queen of the Damned (man did they butcher it when they made the movie or what?) and the Vampire Lestat are my favorites too!:cool: My favorite chapter in the whole series is when all the main vampires meet in Marahet's cabin in the woods. It kind of like the Council of Elrond. I just love it when you have a bunch of extremely powerful and cool people all in one room.

Pandora was the last one I have read, so that's why I mentioned it. I also liked the Vampire Armand. Lestat and Marius are my favorites so any book with a lot of those two is fine by me! I never liked Interview With a Vampire that much. I think it was because I read the Vampire Lestat first and I came into reading Interview with a whole different viewpoint. I like Louis though. Claudia annoys me.

I agree with your thought on David. All of a sudden he became a main character and I was like huh?:huh: I guess he was in the Mayfair Witch series. I haven't read them so I have no idea.

[Lady Aerowen]

lol In Queen of the Damned, I think they kinda combined that with a bit of The Vampire Lestat..so it was all weird. Hehe The Council of Elrond and the..err.. Council of the Vampires ;)

I'd have to say Louis and Lestat are my favourites. *nods* And yea, if you read The Vampire Lestat first..that kinda messes up the point of view on The Interview with A Vampire, which was kinda boring, IMO. Claudia seemed sorta like David..she came in, but then she left..so yeah :P

Mayfair Witches..I have seen and heard of them, but I haven't read them either..couldn't help ya there. Hehe


~The Lady Aerowen

[Adunauriel]

I have read them all. Love them. When I read Merrick I was so mad when it got to the part where Louis made Merrick. Then put himself into the sun. I stopped reading it. Then started reading again. If they hadden't brought him back I wouldn't have ever read another of her books again. I love Louis that much. He's my Fave Character.;)

[Ilmarë]

:cool: .. Don't really have time to wax eloquent about these books just now... but I read 'em as much as i read LOTR. Just the most fantastic descriptive writing in Interview... and the characters... utterly compelling. LOVE Lestat!!:naughty: .. such a BAAAAAD boylol

[Daughter of Finarfin]

Originally posted by teddyjen25
I have read them all. Love them. When I read Merrick I was so mad when it got to the part where Louis made Merrick. Then put himself into the sun. I stopped reading it. Then started reading again. If they hadden't brought him back I wouldn't have ever read another of her books again. I love Louis that much. He's my Fave Character.;)

Louis died!?!!? And then was brought back? I'm confused. Is it similar to what happened to Armand in his book? I didn't read Merrick because I thought it was more about the Witch chronicles than the vamps. Is there a lot of vamp action in it?

I got a little tired of what they were doing to Lestat. Especially at the end of Memnoch the Devil. I haven't read Blood and Gold yet. Is there a lot of Lestat in that one? I know he had come out of his trance thing by the time of Pandora's book.

[Adunauriel]

I think you need to read Merrick. It's the combining of The Mayfair Witches & The Vampire Chronicles, Very good Book btw. Blood & Gold is about Marius. Also a very good book.:thumbs:
The only Vampire Chronicle I haven't read is Memnoch, I just can't seem to get up the nerve. Everybody I've talk to about it says it's a hard read.

[Lady Aerowen]

Uh huh..I heard Merrick was really good. I'm happy a few of you know what I am talking about here ;) Have any of you seen any of the movies/DVD's?

[Adunauriel]

I've Seen both, Interview & Queen. Stuart Townsend, much better lestat imo.... Stuart :drool: oops, yes I'll clean this up.. Just thinking about him in those leather pants:drool:. Ah not again, I just cleaned up the last mess.

Brad Pitt, Very good Louis.....:naughty:

[Daughter of Finarfin]

I skimmed through about three pages of Merrick once, but I didn't see any mention of any vamps besides David, so I didn't get it. It was rather a quick skimming, I guessed I missed the other vamps. I guess I will have to read it.

I didn't like Queen of the Damned, except for Stuart of course. I think Lestat was a great enough book that it should have been made into a movie before they did Queen. Stuart was better than Tom Cruise. Tom was just not how I pictured Lestat. I like Interview, the last scene rocked, even though it was completely different form the end of the book. Guns n Roses doing "Sympathy for the Devil" was awesome.

[Adunauriel]

David is mentioned, because he is sort of telling the story. You really should read it. It's very good. Trust me...:thumbs:

[Daughter of Finarfin]

You have inspired me! I will read it as soon as possible. I really have been meaning to read it, if only so I could get to Blood and Gold, which I REALLY want to read! I love Marius.

[Adunauriel]

Well I'm glad you'll read it. To have inspired you, that brings me joy. Thanx ;) :grin:

[Lady Aerowen]

lol I'm sorry, but Brad Pitt wasn't a good Louis, IMO (I think it was Brad..lol Oh whoever) because I mean the hair just..didn't go. It looked way too fake. And the end of Interview actually made me laugh. hehe 'I'll give you a choice I never had..' And what was really good about the Interview was that Anne Rice did the screenplay. Queen of the Damned was a good movie, too..but why can't I remember when Lestat went from blonde to black hair? *thinks*

[Adunauriel]

True about the Lestat hair thing. But then again even Tom's hair wasn't blond enough. Lestat's hair was almost White-Blonde, way long, & straight. On the Dvd for QotD they talked about the hair fact. They knew that Stuart wouldn't be able to pull off the Hair so they just did there best. For me thou on Louis hair, it wasn't that I ddin't believe it was Brad's cause at that time it was. Even if the color was dark, which Louis hair is amost black if I remember properly. Is that it should have been curly. Louis had curly hair not straight.

Other than this, Love both Movies (Stuarts just to Hot!!!), & Love the Books. :)

[Belaqua]

Never read the books, but i saw interview for the first time on wednesday. Lestat was....camp? Is that the right word for what i mean? Don't know, but he certainly didn't inspire fear in me. Was he supposed to? Boy, i'm just full of questions tonight. I thought Brad Pitt was pretty good at playing a tortured soul, but then i haven't read the book so the only reference i have to a tortured vampire is Angel from Buffy. And he is just whiny and annoying.

[Adunauriel]

To understand Louis you have to read the books. Oh, and just so you know. When, or if you read the books you'll understand the tortured part much better. There's a big difference as to why Louis is grieveing in the books, then in the Movie.

And yea Tom played the part kinda campy. If you want to see a better portrayl watch Queen of the Damned. Stuart Townsend does a wonderful job. (Except for the fact that he doesn't look like Lestat is described in the books.) I over looked that. He did a accent and everything.

Just so you know the Movie Dueen of the Damned was a combination of the Books The Vamire Lestat & Queen of the Damned. Since you haven't read them thou, you'll probably not care about that. I highly reccomend reading the books anyways.:)

[Belaqua]

I'll try and find them when i go to the library. I'm a cheap skate and can't afford to buy books.

[Adunauriel]

or you could check out a used book store, if you've got one near by.:)

My 300th post Woohoo!!!!:whoohoo:

[Lady Aerowen]

QotD was a bad combonation of The Vampire Lestat and QotD. lol I don't think they give enough info..and it's all jumbled-ish. I mean, they went back on Louis' past, why not Lestat's?

[Adunauriel]

Originally posted by Lady Aerowen
QotD was a bad combonation of The Vampire Lestat and QotD. lol I don't think they give enough info..and it's all jumbled-ish. I mean, they went back on Louis' past, why not Lestat's?

True, they should have made both Movies individually. It most definately would have been better that way...:) But I thought the movie was good anyways.

[Daughter of Finarfin]

They should have made Lestat a movie! Because it's the best one, goshdarnit! I knew I wouldn't like QotD because of that fact before even seeing the movie. The movie was just too jumbled. It felt too rushed. And they botched "The Council of the Vampires" scene! Ugghhh. I only saw it once, but was I mistaken or do they show Pandora die? I don't think they named her onscreen but I swear that she died and I was very confused. Can someone clarify this? I remember being mad that one of the characters died in the movie that didn't in the book.

Originally posted by Belaqua
the only reference i have to a tortured vampire is Angel from Buffy. And he is just whiny and annoying.

That's just too funny! I do definitely see Angel being based on Louis though. Especially the way he was when he was first introduced. Spike would be Lestat, I love them both.

[Adunauriel]

Yes, Pandora died in the Movie.. Stupid people for killing her. :angry: As did Mael... One thing I'll say on it thou is that she so for hasn't had a big role in any of the books since.. With the exception of Her book. She's not really in Armand that much. And I believe even Marius dosen't talk about her that much in his book. So as the books are right now. If they were to make another one, ( I personally would choose Merrick), she's not really going to be missed IMO. :)

[Ilmarë]

OMG!!!... I'm going out to rent the movie of QOTD today... and even tho Ronin has already told me to brace myself for how bad it is... what i'm reading about it in this thread is making me even more depressed.
QOTD is a combination of The Vampire Lestat and Queen of the Damned... and to do the film without looking at Lestat's past... how he came to be a vampire... is pretty shocking if that's the case. I mean, it explains why he's the way he is!!!!!!!!!!
As for Brad's hair in IWTV... fake??? Its his own hair!! He came right from doing Legends of the Fall into IWTV!!! Yeah, teddy... you are right... the whole reason behind why Louis is so tortured was never really explored in the first film... tho i thought Brad played him pretty well.. if a little 2 dimensionally.
Anne Rice DID originally write a screenplay for IWTV.. but it was "adapted" somewhat by the studio... so it wasn't really what she intended it to be... but even she says that Tom Cruise WAS Lestat for her... regardless of whether his hair was the right colour or not. I must admit.. i was incredibly pleasantly surprised by how good he was.
One thing i AM looking forward to in QOTD is how the soundtrack is used. *blushes*... hey, can i help it if i love Jonathan Davis??lol lol

[Daughter of Finarfin]

Ilmare, they do show a little of Lestat's backstory. It's mostly him meeting Marius and waking up Akasha with his violin playing. IIRC, they also don't show him having very much interaction with Louis or Armand. I thought that he should have talked to them more. The only people I remember him having much screentime with are Jesse, Marius, and Akasha.

[Adunauriel]

They cut out alot of the scenes they did of the Anchients as they called them. So that they would seem more misterious. Watch the Gag Reel. Funny stuff, but it shows some of the deleted scenes with the Anchients. There is also a deleted scenes reel, with other stuff.

I believe also that Brad did LotF after Interview, but I could be wrong. :)

Also incase you haven't read the books IImare, Marius isn't the Vampire that made Lestat. But, in essence that is almost how it happened.:)

[Ilmarë]

Sorry Teddy... but Brad did do Interview after he'd completed LotF. He was originally slated to do Interview first... but the Legends came first.
I've got all the books... Anne Rice companions... encyclopedia... so i guess you could say i'm a bit of a Vampire chronicles obsessivelol .. oh, and it was Magnus who made Lestat:thumbs:

[Adunauriel]

Originally posted by Ilmarë
Sorry Teddy... but Brad did do Interview after he'd completed LotF. He was originally slated to do Interview first... but the Legends came first.
....... .. oh, and it was Magnus who made Lestat:thumbs:
Ok, well I said I couldn't remember which came first. I just thought Interview did. Thanks for the info. And, I truely couldn't remember the name of the maker of Lestat. I just knew it wasn't Marius.:)

[Daughter of Finarfin]

How could you forget the creep that made Lestat? It certainly wasn't my beloved Marius.

[Adunauriel]

Originally posted by Daughter of Finarfin
How could you forget the creep that made Lestat? It certainly wasn't my beloved Marius.
I didn't forget him, just his name.:) I know that shortly after he made Lestat, and told him the barest of esentials that he set himself on fire. And, told lestat to make sure that every part of him truned to ash. Then after that was done that he was to spread the ashes far and wide. To ensure that he didn't come back. I remember quite a bit, just forgot his derned name.:)

[Lady Aerowen]

Stupid computer again..wouldn't let me on the whole weekend..anyhow. I got around to watching QotD again, and the Gag Reel was quite amusing. lol Umm..I can't remember the one section in the DVD Special Features, but there was a section that had extra scene things I think.. Hmm. What would all of you think about a 'The Tale of the Body Theif' movie? I personally would like 'Merrick' as a movie..hehe

[Lady Aerowen]

Sorry about this double post, but I have to get going here. One last thing to say:

I just finished that book, 'Blackwood Farm' that came out October 29th. Yes, it's good...but it's erm..for Young Adults. I'll give a little background.

It is about this dude named Quinn who is haunted by a ghost. (By the way this book is a kindof combonation of Mayfair Witches and Vampire Chronicles) Quinn is made into a vampire, and so this ghost becomes even more horrific. This novel can be confusing at times, because it goes back and forth in time. From Quinn's childhood to present-day and more. Quinn seeks the Vampire Lestat for a reason..(if I tell the reason it might give too much away..hehe) Now, there is also this place called Sugar Devil Swamp which also hides a secret...lol Yes, more towards the end Lestat comes in and so does Merrick Mayfair. Quite an interesting story, IMO, but not for the faint of heart..or those who don't like to read about *coughintercoursecough*. Augh I feel weird, but I have to tell you and I don't know what I am allowed and not allowed to say. ^^ But, there are several cases of that, and even one with the ghost..so, yes, the book can be disturbing. *nod* Overall, it was good. Hope someone else reads it!

Another note: Blood and Gold was 5 US dollars..o.O Was it that bad?!

[Adunauriel]

No, Blood and Gold was really good. Was it the paperback version? If not maybe they were trying to sell there overstock or somthing.

I would say thou that to me alot of Anne's books have some diturbing stuff in them. I am so going to have to read Blackwood Farm now. I was planning to before, but you've really made me want to now. The fact that Merrick is in it, that clinched it for me.

I too agree that if they made another movie, they should go with Merrick. :thumbs: :)

[Lintefaniel]

Anyone read the Mayfair Witches? Or The Mummy (or Ramses the Dam*ed)? I highly recommend the Mayfair Witches if you are into witches and/or geneology. Strange as it sounds, the lineage and connections she places on characters in her Mayfair Witches books to characters and places in some of her other novels is intriguing. Also her literary descriptions and lyrical romanticizing of the beauty of New Orleans can transport you to different eras in time. Her love for her birth city really shows in these novels in particular. Some of her best period pieces as well as use her creative juices.
I haven't read Blackwood or Feast of all Saints, nor Cry to Heaven or the whole of Servant of the Bones, but that's not to say I don't plan to! As for the Chronicles, all I can say is beautiful!! I love Lestat!! He's wonderful and my favorite novel is The Vampire Lestat. QoD the movie was ok for how it was done and I thoroughly enjoyed Stuart Townsend, but I love the book far better...As with nearly all books to movie cases!
But I must say, read the Lives of the Mayfair Witches......very very good
:thumbs: ;) :) :cool:

[Lady Aerowen]

Hmm.. I haven't read the Mayfair witches yet, but I think those were the like..2000 page paperbacks I saw. lol

Adunauriel- 'Blood and Gold' for $5 US dollars was indeed, hardback. I remember looking at that and thinking, 'Why is an originaly $26.95 hardback..now a $5 dollar hardback?' lol I doubt they had overstock, because that was the only one there...how confusing.

[Adunauriel]

I'm with you Lady Aerwen, it is confusing why they would sell a Hardback Addition for $5, but I will tell you it really is a good book. If I ever found it for $5 I would most definately snatch it up.:)

[Arwen]

I am a huge Vampire Chronicles fan too..I've read them all except Blackwood Farm which I am getting for Christmas. I loved the Interview movie...QOTD was fun to watch but had nothing to do with the actual story. Anyway I'm really looking foward to reading Blackwood Farm...I am currently rereading Queen of the Damned since I originally read it several years ago. I am saddened that no one else here seems to like Pandora..she is one of my favorite vampires and I loved her book!

:batty:

[Lintefaniel]

Pandora! I love that one. I'm especially a big fan of the "flashbacks"in each vampire book to the B.C. days of Alexandria and Egypt. I especially adore the Love/Hate relationship between Marius and Pandora. ;) :grin: :)

[Adunauriel]

I too love Pandora. I've totally posted that I love Pandora. It's a great book. One of my faves as a matter of fact...:) just incase I forgot to post I love Pandora...... I do.....:)

[Ilmarë]

Just started on "Blackwood Farm" ... so glad to see the lovely Lestat appearing so quickly..*sighs*.. gotta love that bad boy!:naughty: ;) lol

[Arwen]

Happy to hear others love Pandora too! :thumbs: I can't wait to read Blackwoood Farm...

[Adunauriel]

I'm glad to have let you know... I really loved Pandora, it's a great book IMO.... :)

[Lady Aerowen]

lol Arwen- I like that bad-smiley thing. Pandora's book was...a little dragging at some points. And you are right, Ilmare, Lestat did come in early in Blackwood Farm. Almost too early. ;)

[Adunauriel]

Yes Pandora was a little slow at times, but a great book none the less... I can't wait to read Blackwood Farm, it sounds amazing. I'll have to pick it up sometime soon......:batty:

[Lintefaniel]

OK, so please don't give away Blackwood for me too soon!! I adore Lestat, he's my favvorite character in all her vampire books. I haven't read it yet! She has another one coming out soon too I think....:wicked:

[Ilmarë]

:thumbs: You're in for a treat then Lin..:grin:

[Daisy Gamgee]

I love the Interview with a Vampire film, and from your posts, you've all convinced me to have a read of the books - but which one should I start with? Any suggestions?

[Arwen]

Read them in order:) Start with Interview, then The Vampire Lestat, then Queen of the Damned, then Tale of the Body Thief...that should get you going for a little while ;)

[Adunauriel]

I would reccomend a break after Queen of the Damned. Read something light, something that's a bit of a no brainer. Queen of the Damned is a bit dark, and can drain you a little.... Not that it's bad, it just a bit more graffic then the previouse two. Then you'll be refreshed when you start Tale of the Body Thief....:)

Just so you know the Order goes:
1. Interview with the Vampire
2. The Vampire Lestat
3. Queen of the Damned
4. Tale of the Body Thief
5. Memnoch the Devil
6. The Vampire Armand
7. Merrick

Other noteable books are Pandora & Blood & Gold. These two are part of Anne Rices New Tales of the Vampires

Enjoy.......;)

[Lintefaniel]

Has anyone read Christopher Rice's (her son) book(s) yet? I know he has one and I thought he was done with another. I haven't read it / them but i've heard great things. What's the genre and are they good? :)

[Ilmarë]

He has two out Lin. "Snow Garden" and "A Density of Souls". I haven't read them at all, so i can't help you out with what genre they are. Still trying to find out more.

................... Ok.. just found out... they are mystery/thrilliers!!:thumbs:

[Adunauriel]

Sounds interesting I might have to check them out...:)

[Lady Aerowen]

*didn't even know she had a son* *cough*

lol Does he write about vampires? Or just random people?

[Ilmarë]

lol Random people... hehehe. No, he doesn't write about vampires.. which is probably just as well, seeing as his mother is THE foremost contemporary vampire writer.

[bibi]

ah, the Vampire Lestat ! I loved that book so much. I think I read it 5 times now. So, great.

bibi

[Adunauriel]

Yes, The Vampire Lestat is one of the better Chronicles... I will always love Interview thou, cause I just Love Louis... He's my Fave..... ;)

[Ilmarë]

I love the character of Louis too Adun.... tho not many do. He is just so much the antithesis of Lestat... they work excellently well together.

[bibi]

I'm not really into Louis, because for me he was to whiny. I liked the arrogant yet still suffering way of Lestat. But of course Interview still is one great book :)

bibi

[Adunauriel]

See, for me Louis wasn't whiney, he was tortured.... I just felt connected to him, I felt his pain...... ;)

[Ilmarë]

I agree with you Adun... Louis was tortured by a wrong descision. It is easy to see why people think he's a bit whiny tho... I mean, HE had a choice..about whether or not to take the Dark Gift... Lestst didn't... yet he doesn't complain about it.

[Adunauriel]

I don't really think Louis had a choice either... I think Lestat was just pretending to give him a choice.... Lestat was going to turn him either way.... Louis knew this, so to save Lestat the effort he went willingly... Atleast that's how I see it.....;)

[Ilmarë]

Hmm... i don't know... I think Lestat wanted Louis... but could have just killed him just as easily. Ahh... we can agree to disagree perhaps??:grin:

[Adunauriel]

Yes, I think it's probably best......;)

[Arwen]

I love Louis too, but he does get on your nerves sometimes..Lestat is much more FUN :evilcool: :batty:

Does anyone else love the Memnoch the Devil book? I thought it was awesome..:evil:

[Adunauriel]

I have it, but have yet to read it..... I probably will eventually....;)

[Arwen]

You should read it ASAP! :evil:

[Adunauriel]

I'll read it when I get the chance...;)

[Lady Aerowen]

Hehe, I'm just so happy I found so many people, that not only have read, but liked them as well! *gives all that have posted in this thread a..special rarely given Aero-hug* ;)

So, do any of you know something about maybe future movies? Merrick would be awesome. *droll* Hmm, here is a question type-thing to keep the thread going:

If there were to be another movie, which should it be, and why? And who would play some of the characters?

[Ilmarë]

:grin: Aww... thanks for the hug, Aero!! I thought that Memnoch was a really excellent book... loved the concept of Lestat going to Hell!
Hmm... that's difficult to say Aero... I personally thought Tom cruise and Brad Pitt were fantastic in the movie of "Interview"... didn't really care too much for Stuart Townshend's interpretation... apart from the accent.
I'll have to dwell on this a little more.lol :cool:

[Adunauriel]

Thanks for the hug Aero.... I too will have to think on this question... Right now thou, I would say making Merrick into a movie would be really cool... I personally would still choose Stuart Townsend to play Lestat, I thought he did a great job.... But who to play Louis, that's the question.... Might I suggest Orlando?.....;)

[Ilmarë]

:thumbs: Good suggestion Adun!!

[Lady Aerowen]

Orlando as Louis.. *thinks* I dunno. It's possible. Then again, during these times you could probably throw just about anyone into that part. Hehe, But while you think, another thing to keep the thread going:

What about putting LotR characters and/or the actors who play them into roles of our vampires?

Lestat- I'd say Aragorn. They both kinda have that 'leader' thing going on lol

Jesse- I'd say Eowyn. I guess I'm heading towards personalities more than looks here. I choose Eowyn because..well, it seems to me as if (in the movie) Jesse has a 'thing' for Lestat, and in the movie (and books) Eowyn has a 'thing' for Aragorn. lol And they are both that 'warrior-maiden'/'shieldmaiden' attitude.

[Adunauriel]

Well, if were going to put LotR Characters into the Vampire rolls.... Then I'd have to go with Frodo as Louis, cause Frodo is tortured by the ring, and not giving into it's will... Eventually he does just like Louis did, when he made Merrick...... Or, something like that, I'm not sureI know what I mean...;) lol

[Lintefaniel]

FYI: I don't know if this has been said but NBC is making a movie based on the Lives of the Mayfair Witches, due out sometime next fall or Spring 2004. I don't yet know who will be cast in the roles but I have a fear of being disappointed and I am praying for a better effort then most Made for TV Stephen King movies are given. As for another Vampire movie, I would think it would be Body Thief or Merrick. Though I haven't read it all the way through, I think Memnoch would make a great movie as well. Orlando cast as a vamp would be a lovely idea, though I don't know how it would turn out on screen. But we shall see...you never know what Anne will decide to allow to be made into film......

[Ilmarë]

:( Made for tv movies give me the chills mostly... because they are so bad.
Tale of the Body Theif would make a really good movie... but I would love to see Memnoch the Devil as a movie. Hmm... I think Orlando would make a rather.. suave, seductive vamp....
As you say, Linte... Anne Rice is very protective of her Chronicles... with good reason, i think. It will be interesting to see if she gives permission for any more to be shot as movies.

[Adunauriel]

Well atleast 've got you guys thinking about Orlando as Louis.... I just think it would be really cool to see him in a dark roll, after LotR.... That's just me thou, you dont have to agree...;)

[Lintefaniel]

I think, Adunauriel, you would prefer Orlando in any fashion! But as for a vampire, it's all fine and well in our heads but on the screen it may not tell the tale. Here's a question, for those who have read the Mayfair Witches, who would be your dream cast? Or to keep it simple...who is your dream Rowan, Michael, and Lasher? (for the true fans, Oncle Julien, Mona, and Aaron as well. ) ;)lol :)

[Lady Aerowen]

I think if you go back a few pages, Lintefaniel, you will see not many, if any, of us have read the Mayfair Witches Series... BUt it's all good. Someone will come along. In the meantime:

I thought of a few more:

Pandora- Arwen/Liv Tyler. Small role. XD lol Just kidding. I don't know who would be a good Pandora. o.O

Claudia- I think maybe a hobbit would play this part..ehh. If we had Legolas play Louis..we'd have to have like a daughter or younger sister play her. Or at least, that is how I saw Louis and Claudia..

[Lintefaniel]

I pray do forgive that oversight! I should have checked before that last post...perhaps I have laid a challenge on some? I highly recommend these books. I must say, that if you have never been to New Orleans, as I have not, they paint a picture far more precious then any artist could achieve with a brush. For those who have been I do envy you, for I would love to visit the Crescent City and fall in love with it all over again. She weaves such a spell with these books that it's not easy to convey the way they make me feel into words beyond this...READ THEM!! You will love them...and if you don't oh well! I won't hold it against you..;)

[Ilmarë]

It was through reading The Vampire Chronicles initially that i fell in love with New Orleans. How i ache to visit that city.... to visit all the places mentioned in the books. Anne Rice has, as you say Linte, a way of weaving a spell over the reader... her descriptions of N.O. are wonderful.

[Adunauriel]

She does discribe N.O. beautifuly... I've often felt like I was there while reading her books....;)

[Lintefaniel]

Truthfully, I have a healthy obsession with the city, and as I said I have never been! I would love to hit Mardi Gras but my pocket book is thin enough as it is. I think I will celebrate this year, even though I may be by myself! I ordered Blackwood Farm and it should be here this week!! Boy oh boy!! I am dancing in my PJ's!!;)roflmao

[Adunauriel]

No, no Linte..... :nono: Please, don't dance in your pjs......;) lol Trust me people she truely is obcessed with N.O. it borders on scary....:elfeek:

[Mirkgirl]

mmm don't forget this thread is to discuss Anne Rice not pjs ;)

[Lintefaniel]

Yes'm I won't let the snippity Adun get me to express my dancing habits (or lack of). Does anyone know anymore about Anne's husband's illness?

[Ilmarë]

Linte... I'm sorry i have to be the on to tell you this... but Stan Rice died on Monday of a brain tumour... the same day i lost my aunt to Parkinson's disease. If you want to read any more... Anne has left a statement on her official website. :(

[Adunauriel]

Oh, that's not good....:(

[Ruthiel]

I recently finished reading The Vampire Lestat. I loved it. Have you ever heard of her book/series "The Witching Hour" or in the Mayfair Chronicles? Well, I don't recommed The Witching Hour. It's good, but it's also 1038 pages long. Which is just a little too much description for me. For like, 600 pages of that it's a history of *one* family, and it gets quite boring. I somehow got through it, but I wouldn't recommend it unless you want to spend a lot of time reading.
A book I would recommed though is The Cycle of Fire by Janny Wurts. I'm reading it again, and I love it. If anyone here loves adventure books, mixed with Egyptian or other ancient religions, then read Wilber Smith. My fav is River God and the Seventh Scroll.

[Lintefaniel]

Oh dear Ruthiel, you should not avoid a book because it's too long. We might never get the chance to read a book that would have an impact on our lives if we passed them by because their size is intimidating. Imagine if you had never read Lord of the Rings. It was originally meant to be a large one volume book. Tolkien intended it to be and his publisher insisted it be broken into 3 volumes. Mayfair Witches is my favorite of all her Witching Hour series. The chronology and geneology is half the fun of learning who the Mayfair family is! But like you said, if you're not into reading about those things, these books are definately not ones I would recommend. ;) ;) ;)

[Ruthiel]

I actually prefer to read long books, so I'm not really intimidated by size. It's just that I found there were too many details, but I still liked it. It was summer vaca at the same time though, I don't know if that influenced my reading or what? But It is a good book, although too much detail for me, and I like a lot of detail.

:elfqueen:

[Lintefaniel]

I see, I understand then! Have you read any of her other books? Meaning, The Mummy or Pandora? I have yet to read Violin or Vittorio. But I have enjoyed all of her other ones, especially Blood and Gold and Merrick.

[Ruthiel]

I haven;t but I want to. I've read The Vampire Lestat and saw Interview with the Vampire and Queen of the D***ed. And of course The Witching Hour.

[Adunauriel]

You really should read Blood & Gold, and Merrick... There both great books......;)

[Lintefaniel]

Merrick melds both the Mayfairs and the Vampire Chronicles. It's just brilliant and Louis's return to his base instincts really changes the view of his whiney personality. It's almost a redemption of his undeadness! He seems to accept that he is a base killer and his longing for humanity is not lost but it's kinda placed on the back burner as the book closes. I sure hope that she will elborate on his new outlook towards his vampire life. Blood and Gold is Marius's account of his own lifetime. He delves further into what he has done over the millenia of his existance. He is my second favorite of her vampires...First being Lestat!!! Feel free to agree or disagree with me, any of those who have read them.....;)

[Ilmarë]

Yes.. have to agree Lin... what she did with the character development of Louis was just exactly what was needed. I think its such a shame not to take time to appreciate a book because its too long or because someone tells you a character is whiney. As for her description of N.O. and its surroundings... Anne Rice always seems to get it exactly right. I don't find it too flowery at all.... in fact, it makes me want to go visit the place immediately.
Lestat ... well I find it difficult to understand why anyone would not like him as a character:rolleyes: ... I mean... he's the Brat Prince after all!!;) lol lol He fascinates me... constantly trying to figure out what is going on in his head.

[Ruthiel]

Well... I'm going to get my mom to drive me to the library A.S.A.P... asap being as soon as my horror book report comes around, so I can read it for that. :grins:

:elfqueen:

[Adunauriel]

Or, you could go and get one of them now... Kind of like doing a preemptive strike... That way you'll be able to read one of them now... J/k, you don't have to, I'm being silly......;) lol

[Ruthiel]

Yea, but my horror book report is in like may, and i normally don't read that far ahead.

[Adunauriel]

I was j/k you about buying it now... I understand about reading a book closer to when you actually need the Information. That way it's fresher in your mind.... ;)

[Ilmarë]

Ech... go get one of them now.. that way by the time May comes round, you could have read all of them... and have a choice on which to write about.:thumbs: ... assuming you like the books that is.

[Ruthiel]

I caught the joke, Adunauriel! :grin: Thanks for recommending them though. Christmas is coming... along with the release date for LotR:TTT!!!!!

[Lintefaniel]

Brilliant!! I simply adore Anne and I love it when the vampire bug gets catching!! Lestat is definative of all her characters she has written from her own likeness. Hurrah for the vampire bug and I hope you will continue to love her....!! ;)

[Adunauriel]

I too hope you keep reading her books.. I'm sorry, I wasn't sure you cought my humor... Most of the time it's obvious, but at other time it's very subtle... I was just making sure you knew....;)

[Lintefaniel]

Oh Adun, you and i know that subtlety is not your forté!! But yes, you can be easily misconstrued when you're being silly....But I still think you sparkle!!!!! :) notworthy veryhappy

[Adunauriel]

Thank you for your 'Sparkleing' reviews Linte. I'm glad you get my humor....;)

[Lintefaniel]

Of course, we all have to shine sometimes! I decided to put Twinkle lights up around my room...I must be a lunatic!! When is the full moon? I am supposed to recieve my copy of Blackwood Farm this week!!! Yaaaaaay!!! :whoohoo:

[Adunauriel]

Yeah, for you... Don't forget to let me borrow it...;) :thumbs:

[Lintefaniel]

Well you are a little presumptuous!! May haps I do not wish to share? Well let me get it first silly girl....;) lol

[Adunauriel]

I totally ment after you'd read it first...;)

[Lintefaniel]

So far it's wonderful!! I am in love with it already and I'm only 8 chapters in! :) ;)

[Adunauriel]

I bought myself Blackwood Farm, and I'm to chapter 5.. I love it already... Hope it only gets better..;)

[Lintefaniel]

I'm in love with Traquinn Blackwood....;)

[Adunauriel]

That's kinda scarey......:elfeek:

[Lintefaniel]

Why!? I don't find that scarey! I think he's wonderful and I fall for all of her beautiful characters....Plus, he's in love with one of my Mayfairs and that makes me very very Happy!! lol lol

[Adunauriel]

I finished it. It's a beautiul Book, I too love Quinn, I was J/k you Linte... It's strange now, to think that Merrick ended her life, I mean she did it in a Noble & Worthy way, but it's strange to think she wont ber there in the next book.... ;)

[Lintefaniel]

You dirty dirty!! I haven't finished!!
How could you!? How could you!?
mecry mecry
I must shake you when next i see you....that wll be your Christmas from me....:nono: shame on you....;)

[Adunauriel]

Well, I figured you would have allready finished it... Oh well, I can't change the fact that I posted it... Plus, it's not the complete end... I didn't give that away....;)

[Lintefaniel]

Tis' true you didn't give away the ending. I would have finished with you, but my Holiday Baking was reaching Marathon levels by Saturday Afteroon and I didn't have time to catch you up! But no to worry, I have finished it now and I am no longer so bitter with you. ;) :smooch:
I am soooooo anguished! But I will not give away anymore for fear that others may not have read this masterpiece. Also, in a previous post I think I elaborated upon the continuation of the Mayfair Witches as not likely to happen according to Anne. As can be seen in this novel, I was wrong and I would like to apologize! I can't wait to see what other wonderful stories will abound from this precious Legacy of Mayfairs and Blackwoods...;) :whoohoo:

[Adunauriel]

I hope her next book has Louis in it again.. I would love to know how he's been since getting Lestats strong blood...:)

[Daisy Gamgee]

I have just got Interview with a Vampire for christmas - am currently half way through, and througholy enjoying it. Its wonderfully written. Can't wait to get my hands on the following books in the Chronicles. :thumbs:
Is the Mayfair Witches a different set of books?

[Adunauriel]

I can assure you Daisy if you like Interview you'll love the rest of the Chronicles... They're truely great books.... Yes the Mayfair Withches are a seperate set of books... I haven't read them thou, so I can't really tell you what there about....;) :) :thumbs:

[Lintefaniel]

Just as Adun said, Mayfair is a completely seperate set but Blackwood Farm brings the two together so I recommend reading both at some point. The Mayfair Witches novels are my favorites (just incase I haven't said it before ;) ) and I have read them at least 4 times. Maybe more but I don't always count. Highly recommend all of them. I started Interview over again last week while reading Silmarillion simultaneously. It's precarious but it's enjoyable. But you must read the Lives of the Mayfair Witches sometime...I guarantee you'll enjoy it....;)

[Adunauriel]

Also Merrick brings the Mayfair Witches into the Vampire Chronicles... It too is a very good book, Definately worth reading....;) :thumbs: :)

[Lady Aerowen]

Sorry for my long absence, my Anne Riceian friends! I've been busy and the such. But, I'd still like to know who has picked up and read Blackwood Farm. ;) It leaves such a cliffhanger! *wants a sequel* I'm predicting her next book might be 'The Vampire Mona Mayfair' Or something about her. lol Well, I should be around more often now, talk to you all sometime!

~Lady Aerowen.


btw- love your little pic Adunauriel

[Adunauriel]

Thanks Lady Aerowen... I've read Blackwood Farm, and it's an amazing read.. Loved it, I can't wait to see what, or who her next book is about....:thumbs:

[Lintefaniel]

I was wondering if they are planning on putting her other book out in print.....Titled...The Master of Rampling Gate...some short stories. It's only out on audio book right now and I was really hoping it would go to print...know anything about that?

[Lady Aerowen]

Lintefaniel- I know nothing about that. Not that I don't believe you. lol Though, that title looks awefully familiar. Is there some kind of site you could give me so I could check that out? And you know how I said I should be around more often now? Well, my old computer crashed, but now I'm on a new one. :D Hehe

~The Lady Aerowen

[Adunauriel]

Well Lady Aerowen, the only site I can give you to check out stuff about Anne is her official site...Anne Rice (http://www.annerice.com) ... If you allready have it, then sorry...:grin:

[Lintefaniel]

What she said...;) That's all I got too...it seems it's just a short story or two but I was hoping for a paperback or something...anyway....;) Let me know what you find out...if anything...that is..;)

[Voroturiön]

I've read the VC up to the Vampire Armand and including Pandora and Vittorio the Vampire. Skipped Merrick - don't like witches. Need to read Blood & Gold. What is her newest novel about?

[Lady Aerowen]

By newest, Voroturion, do you mean Blackwood Farm? I mean, there could be one out I dont know about yet.. ;)

~Aerowen

[Voroturiön]

Yes, Blackwood Farm. How is it?

[Lady Aerowen]

Blackwood Farm...read it twice already ;) Okay, here is a brief;

This is just like all of the rest of her books, a sort of story told from the person's point of view. Our person this time is Tarquin Blackwood. He lives on Blackwood Manour, and he has a lot to find out. First off, he has only heard legends about Sugar Devil Swamp and his father. He does not remember his father, and everyone tells him he went into the swamp and did not return. So, on with the story.

First, Quinn is a pretty typical 18 year old man. The book starts off with him meeting Lestat, and then he launches into his story. Okay, blah blah, he ends up getting so curious, he travels to the Swamp, to find out a very interesting story about one of his father's lovers, which ties a few knots into the end of the story.

In the end, Quinn solves the mystery of Sugar Devil Swamp, and his father's story, and he even gets a girlfriend; Mona Mayfair. Nice twists included.


Well, that's a brief. Hope it's all good! :thumbs:

~The Lady Aerowen

[Lintefaniel]

If you like Blackwood Farm you might enjoy the witches after all...just incase...I'm gonna read Blackwood again when I finish Harry Potter IV

[Adunauriel]

Well, I guess it's time I admit I've read Annes 'Beauty' series.. All I can say is there definately unique...:grin:

[Lady Aerowen]

Oh! Are those the ones that are kinda about Sleeping Beauty? Or, at least that was the title of one OR SOMETHING. *doesn't know what she is talking about anymore*

But about the Witch Chronicles; I've read Merrick of those, even though that kinda had to do with Lestat as well.. ;) But that is the only one I've read. The other ones are like 1000+ pages long.. : /

~Lady Aerowen

[Lintefaniel]

Remember all of you who haven't read the Beauty Trilogy that Adunauriel has warned you.....They are unique. I read about 3 pages of the first one. Not even a cold shower would have sufficed to cool down that novel!! Good Lord people, Anne has a no holds barred attitude about kinky sex in these books and she will offend people with them. But, that's not her fault if your offended, she doesn't insist upon you reading them. Anywho, I don't plan to read them further but they are unique.

The Witches are still my fav's but you can read the previous posts of mine for those opinions..;):)

[Lady Arien]

Offense is in the eye of the beholder....

The "Sleeping Beauty" series is one of the hottest trilogies I've ever read...:elfeek: :elfeek: :elfeek:

[Lintefaniel]

I wasn't offended, just was interested. I don't get into that sort of read you know...;) But if you do go for it, take the opinions of those who have read them above my own humble opinion...;)

[Adunauriel]

Originally posted by Lady Arien
Offense is in the eye of the beholder....

The "Sleeping Beauty" series is one of the hottest trilogies I've ever read...:elfeek: :elfeek: :elfeek: Well, I wasn't trying to get people offended.. I was just bringing up that portion of her writing.. I found they to be very well written, but I'd most definatly say they are properly catagorized under 'Erotic'... :grin:

[Lady Aerowen]

Hehe, yes, Adunauriel I agree. I think of those I read a few pages of one, but don't think me..odd or anything they were well writen and yes they do belong under Erotic ;) But if you've read Blackwood Farm, Anne also has some...scenes of weird sex in there. So, just be prepared if you wish! I mean, they aren't like..-detailed- o.O But you know.

~The Lady Aerowen

[Lintefaniel]

Anne's a free spirit shall we say!! She belongs in her own realm!! And I think that is why she has such a following. I just adore her to pieces...;)

[Lady Aerowen]

I know. And you know you can just call her? She loves her fans ;) But one time (the first time) I called her with a friend; we go the answering machine and that is how I found out her husband had died *Tears* I mean, you'd think her next book might be depressing, but nope, she kept stride and made another great one. (Not that depressing books are bad, I guess I'm trying to stay she stuck with her style)

~The Lady Aerowen

[Lintefaniel]

I didn't know that! I knew you could get her recorded messages but i didn't know you could call her. How great! She is an incredible woman. I would love to sit down to coffee or tea with sometime..just to jabber about topics fo interest....she's really someone who strikes me as inviting.

[Lady Aerowen]

Track meets galore. Ahh. No worries, we're still 5-0 *whee* Annnyways, I think we need to keep this thread at least half-way alive ;) *thinks* Any ideas for a small discussion? : /

~Aerowen

[Lintefaniel]

Um, yes, the new movie!!!!!! The Witching Hour.....what can you find out about it? I have been all over the net and finding little so far till the Fall Season Schedule comes out for NBC
....how about you???

[Lady Aerowen]

I had nooo clue they were even making a movie! Must go googling and come back and give you all some links! :thumbs:

[Lady Aerowen]

http://www.salon.com/weekly/rice960930.html <-- there is something on it..from..six years ago..moving on!

A few minutes later.. BINGO! Anne Rice has announced that the lives of the Mayfair Witches will become a series on NBC. In her July 19, 2002 phone message, Anne said, "Oh, let me tell you about The Witching Hour. You've been asking me alot about that one. The Witching Hour is going to be primetime series on NBC. It will be 12 hours. It's being written by John Wilder, who did a fabulous job adapting Feast of all Saints. We have a whole team...Mark Wolper is the producer, John Wilder is the writer, I'm a producer, my beloved Ross is a producer Jennifer O'Conner, our contact person at NBC, is simply wonderful. We've had our first meeting down here in New Orleans, we're hoping to shoot in New Orleans. John is a very faithful adapter. He understands your feelings and mine. He's a very faithful adapter. It's going to be a wonderful adventure. If we shoot early next year, I don't know if we'll be Fall 2003; I don't know, I'm not sure, but it could be Fall 2002, it could actually be. it could actually come out in the fall. Twelve hours on t.v. in primetime on NBC and then of course it will probably have a life in dvd, also. But twelve hours for the three books of The Witching Hour."

I knew I had remembered something about that when I had heard her message.. *used to call that every day XD*

And then a little bit on The Feast of All Saints;
The miniseries The Feast of All Saints debut this past November (2001) on Showtime. The Showtime Original Miniseries Feast of All Saints stars Gloria Reuben, Peter Gallagher, Jennifer Beals, Ossie Davis, Ruby Dee, Pam Grier, Jasmine Guy, James Earl Jones, Eartha Kitt, Ben Vereen, and Victoria Rowell.

I knew I had seen 'The Feast of All Saints' on showtime, but I so did not relate it to Anne Rice at first! Argh! Whee, looking forwards to that now! :thumbs: How do you guys think it will be?

[Lintefaniel]

Gotcha!! I am sad though...cause that stuff I have all heard before!! I was hoping for more updated googled info...(not your fault it's the secrecy thing they have going on) I suppose I'll have to wait for the Fall Line Up to be announced in May...pfbbt

[Lady Aerowen]

Aww. I'm sowee. :( That is all I found..But May is not too far away! Tell me if you find out anything!

[Adunauriel]

Well whatever gets found out, I can't wait to see it....;)

[Lady Aerowen]

Have any of you seen The Feast of All Saints? Is it any good? *would think it would be, but hey*

[Lintefaniel]

I didn't get to see it but oh how I wanted to...when does it go to video? Cause that is the soonest I'll get it....With a cast like the one you listed...I'm certain it is great....;)

[Lady Aerowen]

I don't know when it comes out on video.. : / And I'm too lazy to conduct a google search at the moment ;) Hmm. It might still be on TV. lol We never know..

[Adunauriel]

Yep, it could be on TV again, but alas I don't have Showtime...:(

[Lintefaniel]

Let's google shall we?...*off to google for info on the afore mentioned..*

[Ronin]

Anne Rice....now there's a card. free spirit indeed ;)

I finished my first foray into her Vampire Chronicles about a month ago, Interview with the Vampire. fell in love with the movie a very long while ago, and thoroughly enjoyed the book. obviously i'll have to read more of the series to understand more of the mythos, which was one of the major failings of the novel, but thankfully stood on its own simply in the exploration of vampirism. thats what really made the book for me, capturing a lot of my own thoughts on page...really quite nice escapism, which she did wonderfully. she is a bit of a blowhard tho...loves the shape of her letters.

lol...i once read a part of Beauty in a book store when i was about 14, suffice to say i couldn't see straight, my face was flushed, and my image of sleeping beauty was ruined forever :rolleyes: but lets not forget, from the same woman who penned Exit to Eden ;)

[Lintefaniel]

Poor boy!! I read about 3 pages in my Aunts living room and still was flushed! At 26!! I adore Anne, though you do seem to have her pegged... She seems to like the way she writes as much as we do! But you have to if your any good at what you do....Besides, when your art becomes an outlet for pain, it's necessary in some cases. She wrote Vampire after her daughter died in 1977 (?date).

[Ronin]

*laughs*...well, 19 now, tho i'm doubting i'd still be that much prepared for...uh...what ms. rice has to offer ;) tho, ur aunt must seem to like it :rolleyes:
Ach, thats true, at times, such pain can be really alleviated by the outpouring of one's soul into words. definitely not begrudging her that. actually, it was this outpouring that really drew me into her world...*smiles*...just sometimes, became a little dickensian lol

[Adunauriel]

Actually Ronin, they weren't her Aunts books, they were mine.. I'm the owner of the Beauty series.. Linte is my cousin if you didn't know before... But Linte bought them for me.. After reading them, trust me I'm never gonna look at Sleeping Beauty the same way either....;) :blush: But I must add they are wonderfully written, and shall I say detailed.....:mmmm:

[Lintefaniel]

Yes, they are her's. OK, I googled away for the Feast of All Saints and it's coming to video release I found info stating June 2003 in Lion's Gate....I'll keep looking for a specific date...

Ronin, I think what draws me to her books is the way she describes the sultry beauty of New Orleans. It melts me and makes me long for a place I have never been to. We all have authors who do that for us....;)

[Ronin]

aha! so acquaintances all around! lovely to ...umm...become more informed. and yes m'dear...very, very detailed ;) actually, i should try and pick them up again...whilst that brief glimpse over i had, among many things, i noticed an extreme sense of despair, loss and hope which just fascinated me.

and u're right linte (or may i say lint, in a very non-insulting way) , she has a wonderful way of breathing a life into her work. if u have ever read Rosamunde Pilcher, her England and Scotland pulse with the lifeblood of centuries. :grin:

[Lintefaniel]

Double post and I am dancing for joy!!!:whoohoo: I finally found some info on the Witching Hour series. Mind you it's not too much but it's helpful. Here's an article from Variety Magazine...and the link to print it..if the link doesn't work....let me know..Enjoy...!!

Posted: Thurs., May 9, 2002, 10:00pm PT

Peacock's recipe: Stir Rice for 12 hours

'Witching' series' budget could hit $50 mil

By JOSEF ADALIAN


NBC has fallen under the spell of Anne Rice.
Peacock is developing the scribe's gothic trilogy "The Witching Hour" as a 12-hour limited series to be produced by the Wolper Organization and Warner Bros. TV. Likely budgeted at $40 million-$50 million, project will rep the network's most significant longform time commitment since 1980's "Shogun."

In addition, NBC has greenlit production on "1st to Die," a three-hour mini adaptation of the bestselling mystery novel from James Patterson ("Kiss the Girls"). NBC Studios and Michael O'Hara Prods. are producing.

Both packages were put together by CAA, which reps Rice, Patterson and several others involved in the projects. Rice is also repped by the Janklow-Nesbit Agency.

Commitments are the strongest evidence yet that NBC isn't totally abandoning longform, despite what some observers had figured after the net gave up its weekly movie franchise and significantly cut back on development.

"Contrary to popular belief, we're not out of the movie business," said Jeff Gaspin, NBC's exec VP of alternative/longform/program strategy. "We got out of the movie-of-the-week business, and it took us some time to redevelop our movie strategy."

Wilder will write

As for "The Witching Hour," John Wilder ("Feast of All Saints," "Return to Lonesome Dove") has been signed to adapt Rice's three early-1990s novels. Mark Wolper, Rice and Wilder will serve as exec producers.

"Witching Hour" tells the saga of the Mayfair Witches, a fictional New Orleans family with a rich history of supernatural freakiness. Trilogy consists of "The Witching Hour," "Lasher" and "Taltos."

"I'm thrilled to be working with NBC, Mark Wolper and John Wilder to bring this story to television in this way," Rice said in a statement. "A 12-hour limited series is the only way to properly tell this story, and I'm certain my readers will agree."

Peacock won't formally give the go-ahead to the project until it sees several hours of the script, but it's unlikely the net would snag the TV rights to the project if it didn't intend to produce it. Project is being targeted for the 2003-04 season.

Saving money and time

Gaspin said developing the three "Witching Hour" novels together as one 12-hour project will both save money and allow for maximum scheduling flexibility.

It's not the only megaseries in the works from a famous author: ABC plans to air the 15-hour Stephen King limited series "The Hospital" next season.

NBC may choose to air the "Witching" trilogy as three four-hour miniseries -- perhaps spreading them out during the November, February and May sweeps of the 2003-04 season. Gaspin said this approach would mirror the way "The Lord of the Rings" features are being rolled out.

Alternatively, NBC may air the 12 hours as a weekly series or over the course of one or two weeks.

All the alchemy

Gaspin said "Witching Hour" has all the elements NBC is looking for these days in longform: "Supernatural has worked incredibly well on TV recently, and this fits right into our strategy of presold, recognizable pop culture titles."

Exec also is high on "1st to Die," which will go into production soon for air sometime during the 2002-03 season. Emmy-nominated O'Hara ("Switched at Birth") is penning the script; he'll exec produce with former NBC movies topper Steve White.

Mini revolves around a femme homicide detective who teams up with three other female professionals to form a secret "Women's Murder Club" that investigates the serial killings of newlyweds. Patterson's book has already spawned a sequel, which means NBC could eventually turn the novels into a franchise.

Patterson franchise

"James Patterson is a brand unto himself," Gaspin said, noting the success his novels have had as feature pics.

While NBC will air a three-hour mini of "1st to Die," net plans to actually produce a four-hour project. Additional footage will be packaged with what airs on NBC, allowing a cabler to air a four-hour mini.

Other Peacock longform projects in the works for next season include a new adaptation of "Carrie," a possible "Lost in Space" remake and a Rudy Giuliani biopic.





© 2003 Reed Business Information © 2003 Variety, Inc.

[Ilmarë]

Ah Linte.. as you do so often, you express exactly what i feel. Reading the Vampire Chronicles did the same for me... made me desperately want to visit a place i had never been... literally made me ache to be in New Orleans... still does actually. She does love the sound of her own voice (if you can say that about a writer).. but what she does, she does magnificently.

[Lintefaniel]

I know, she can make a gal long for things she's never had (i.e. Sleeping Beauty..;)) And Ronin, no offense taken in the shortened Lint of my name...it's either way for me...:) Rosamunde Pilcher you say...can I pick one up in a library? That's my latest outlet for reads...I'm poor!! lol And does she write vampire or something else...cause I can do something else..;)

[Ronin]

Aye, she definitely does love the shape of her own type (?). Personally, there are better authors who can capture the scope and breathe of a nation, town, country, or people...i liked Interview with the Vampire for a very specific reason, even liked may be the wrong word.

*laughs uproariously*...ah lint, that made my day, and hey...if Sleeping Beauty can make a gal long, i've got no ground to complain ;) lol

Aye, u could catch Rosamunde Pilcher in the library, written dozens of very well known books. but, not in the least Vampires...more social and familial drama, so if u're looking for some tantatilizing suckling of necks, shan't find it there ;) wonderful writer tho, has really captured my imagination over the past few months :grin:

[Adunauriel]

Originally posted by Ronin
*laughs uproariously*...ah lint, that made my day, and hey...if Sleeping Beauty can make a gal long, i've got no ground to complain ;) lol Well, she didn't read all of the books.. Altho one can never be too sure what one may long for.. All I can' say if that I dodn't end up longing for that life after I finished the books.... Tho, there was an element that I did find rather intigueing.....;)

[Lintefaniel]

Well, I'm not saying that I liked Sleeping Beauty. I was using it as an example for some peoples inner desires not brought out until another expresses them in word. I most certainly wouldn't want The Beauty's lifestyle either, from what Adun tells me!!:elfeek:

No, Vampire isn't all for me Ronin, I do love to venture away from the blood thirsty race often.I'm a sucker for good old fashion Beautiful....no matter what the location....so I'll look into it!! :smooch: Thanks

[Ronin]

lol....elements, aye...i could think of some ;)

i would interested in trying more of SLeeping Beauty....that sense of hopelessness....strikes me now in just rememberance.

:grin: beauty in any location, i like that...i hope u find and hope u enjoy, i'm sure not for everyone...but a woman who can capture the majesty and excitement of art itself, of a paintstroke is everything

[Lintefaniel]

Guess what!! I was traysping through my tiny kitchen and glanced over at the nearest book shelf and LO' and behold!! My Uncle has a Rosemunde Pilcher Book!!
Winter Solstice!! So since I am going on a holiday to my parents house for a month ( I am disabled and can spare the time) I figured I will take the advantage!!

*Ronin, we could be fast friends you and I*

[Ronin]

lol...really? thats fantastic!! well, not that disabled, but for holiday and the time for a good book...nothing much more could be more enjoyable. Winter Solstice was actually my first foray, about a month ago i believe...should be an excellent introduction!!

hope u like :grin:

[Lintefaniel]

I'll let you know...;) Don't worry the disability isn't a depressing one...I'm just fine!! Thanks for the recommend...

Ta Ta!! :loveyou:

[Ronin]

:grin:...well, thats good to hear, and hey...vacation! ;)

lol...ta darlin' :wiggle:

[Adunauriel]

Ah yes, a book on Vacation.. I always try to take one or two with me.....:thumbs:

[Ronin]

i took 20 once for a two week vacation to the beach...*sighs*...at the end i resorted to drawing on the beach, cursing out those who walked all over my beautiful creations....so sad when one is bored ;)

[Lintefaniel]

You know, I prepare for a vacation with books and things like that too and always find myself enamored by other things or scandalized by unintentional behavior or worse still....(as you said Ronin) BOREDOM!! I say pack two books, prepare for the best, expect the worst, enjoy what life gives you...!! And have a jim dandy time doing it...!!lol lol

[Catz]

lol...........my idea OF a vacation is a wall full of books........actually...........i could holiday happily in a library ;)...........hmmm wonder if theyd do room service ;) lol
oh and , not that i mind ;) but arent you supposed to be discussing frilly jaboted vamps?
:catz:

[Lintefaniel]

Of course and i mean to that as soon as we finish discussing this holiday thing....
OK we're done!!!lol

[Ronin]

we are? dash it all....hmmmm...way too much of an energetic outlook on vacations lint, a good scowl goes a very long way ;) lol

[Lintefaniel]

Oh you know me....always thinking positive....lol I certainly wish someone would give more info on The Witching Hour series though....that article i put up was atleast a year old...(maybe 2)pfbbt

[Ronin]

well, i found one published 10 days after the one u have! i'm so...special lol

here (http://www.variety.com/index.asp?layout=upsell_article&articleID=VR1117864218&cs=1)

[Lintefaniel]

Yes, but I'll have to subscribe, and i am unable to do to lack of funds...(and I did the one time only thing already...):(

[Ronin]

lol...u poor, starving artist....women are so subtle ;)

"The Witching Hour," a trilogy of novels Anne Rice wrote in the early 1990s as a respite from her vampire chronicles, has found new life in print and will be adapted as a limited TV series that producer Mark Wolper is developing at Warner Bros.
The novels, "The Witching Hour," "Lasher" and "Taltos," introduced the Mayfair witches, members of a prominent and wealthy New Orleans family whose saga has woven its way into Rice's ongoing vampire chronicles.

Rice, repped by CAA, publishes a new novel once every two years or so. Her next novel, "Blackwood Farm," which comes out next fall, will feature both vampires and Mayfair witches.

The last book to unite the two series was "Merrick," published in 2000. Both series involve long, intricate family histories of the sort that may well be better explicated in a limited series than in a feature film.

"Queen of the Damned," which has eked out $30 million to date, focuses on the vampire Lestat, and his relation to the 6,000-year old bloodsucker, Akasha.

"Witching Hour" will be exec produced by Wolper and Rice.


AFTER A DOWNBEAT 2001, marked by political anxiety, slumping sales and downsizing, the book biz is showing signs of life.

John Grisham and a raft of "Lord of the Rings" tie-ins drove January sales to dramatic heights, with hardcover sales up 93.6% over last year, and adult paperback sales up 48.4%.

Amy Gwiazdowski, a spokesperson for the Association of American Publishers, says its too soon to say whether these figures augur well for a healthy 2002. Returns of books sold in January -- which can wreak havoc on a publisher's bottom line -- won't be measured for months, and Feb. and March sales statistics aren't yet available.

But returns also appear to be falling. In January, returns of adult hardcover books were down more than 20%, and returns of kids hardcovers were down 30%.


"LORD OF THE RINGS" may be an AOL TW franchise, but the book sales benefit the burgeoning publishing empire of Vivendi U.

VU bought Tolkien's publisher, Houghton Mifflin, last year, and promised shareholders tens of millions in synergistic cost-savings once the company was integrated with its other assets.

Agnes Tourraine, Paris-based chief of Vivendi U Publishing, said this week Vivendi had already achieved $40 million in savings involving paper and printing costs.

Tourraine also said the publishing company is moving aggressively into the console-based vidgame business. Universal Interactive is developing games based on "The Mummy Returns" and "Shrek."

But Vivendi U has yet to make the most of its film and lit synergies: The "Mummy Returns" novelization is published by an imprint of Penguin Putnam. And "Shrek," the kids book by William Steig, is published by Farrar, Straus & Giroux.


ANOTHER REASON FOR OPTIMISM is that Americans who steered clear of the Frankfurt Book Fair descended on London in droves last week for the London Book Fair, which opened Sunday.

Attendance Sunday was up 5.6%, and, most significant for those dealing in lit rights, the hall space reserved for agents and scouts is choked with traffic. This year, the fair has crammed 110 tables into the International Rights Center -- a hangar-like balcony in the Olympia Exhibition Center in Kensington. Last year, there were 88 tables.

That's a trend worth watching in Hollywood. The Rights Center is where buyers and sellers gather to pick over lists of forthcoming books from around the world. And there's a wealth of Hollywood execs attending this year, including staffers from Universal, Scott Rudin Prods., APG, Tribeca Films and New Line.

Date in print: Wed., Mar. 20, 2002

[Lintefaniel]

...u poor, starving artist....women are so subtle Bless you!! I sure wish I had been a little less subtle and more down right blunt!! That's more my style!! Please forgive my misrepresentation of self...;) HOWEVER!!! I do gratefully except your offer of the glorious article!! And I thank you ever so egregiously!! schmooooze.....:smooch:

[Ronin]

lol...*sighs*...adoration, so unseemly ;) :blush:

and there we go, we need much more blatancy in this world....a shocking tap of the head, lovely and refreshing!!

[Catz]

wheres that puke smilie when you really need it???
careful Ronin.......your head may not fit thru the door hon;) :p lol

Her next novel, "Blackwood Farm," which comes out next fall, will feature both vampires and Mayfair witches.

oh lord.............no!!!!! mecry pfbbt lol thats just overkill!!!
:catz:

[Ilmarë]

Not a puke smilie.. but maybe this will suffice:drool:
Oh.. and Linte... one thing to always remember...don't encourage him!!! .. his ego is out of control as it is ;) :p lol

Blackwood Farm... just can't get thru it at all..:rolleyes:

[Lintefaniel]

Originally posted by Ilmarë
Not a puke smilie.. but maybe this will suffice:drool:
Oh.. and Linte... one thing to always remember...don't encourage him!!! .. his ego is out of control as it is ;) :p lol

Blackwood Farm... just can't get thru it at all..:rolleyes: mecry mecry Oh Ilmarë!!! It's such a good one!! If you go for the gaudy that is...(but we can look to the Moulin Rouge thread for the answer to that onelol)

[Adunauriel]

Ah well if a Puke smilie is what you need...... http://members.iinet.net.au/~vroncol/Smiley_gifs/puke.gif There you go...... Ok I know it's totally off topic, but I couldn't resist......lol

[Ilmarë]

*hugs Linte*.. didn't mean to make u cry, hon... I promise.. i will try again.. and you can keep on my back about it when we chat, ok? Make me read it!:grin:
Oh, and Adun... nice smilie:thumbs:

[Lintefaniel]

Oh it's ok...don't worry!! I understand! I can't read Anne Frank! because I can literally place myself in her room during the War everytime I open the book...so you don't have to read it... no matter what the reason....*huggs* I will understand!!

[Adunauriel]

Originally posted by Ilmarë
Oh, and Adun... nice smilie:thumbs: I'm glad you liked it... I couldn't resist.... Oh, and you really need tto read Blackwood Farm... It's an excellent book...:thumbs:

[Ronin]

oooo....testy when it comes to the Holocaust? gosh i have some good books....utterly heartbreaking.

The Long Walk...breathtaking

[Lintefaniel]

No, Not testy really...very very empathetic...I don't know why. I honestly can see myself there. It's been that way since about my 11th year....but I do enjoy some books...very few....;)

[Catz]

but that empathy is what makes a book powerful and worth reading........if it isnt there......if i dont feel for and with the characters, then no matter how technically good a writer is.......theyve failed.
:catz:

[Lintefaniel]

Exactly...that's why I can't read Anne Frank!! I honestly can't get through the first part of the the first chapter without putting myself in her place....mecry...it's very emotional

[Ronin]

Testy...not exactly what i meant

But isn't that what a good book should do, totally enrapture u in the character's life and breath? All the more reason to read Anne Frank or the like....tears aren't to be ashamed of :grin:

[Catz]

thats the point really tho isnt it?
there are many books that i read where i bawl my eyes out out during.......and still more that hit me even deeper than tears.........and many arent easy to read, but avoiding that is to avoid the true magic of books.......the ability that they have to touch us deeply thru nothing more than words
:catz:

[Ilmarë]

Originally posted by Ronin
But isn't that what a good book should do, totally enrapture u in the character's life and breath? All the more reason to read Anne Frank or the like....tears aren't to be ashamed of :grin:

I don't think Linte was disagreeing that point, R... I understand what she means... I get completely emotionally involved when i read... and that does mean tears at times...and yeah, a good book SHOULD completely captivate you, so.. i'm agreeing with u i guess....*looks around*.. did i say that?:elfeek: ;) lol

[Cuiel Rilwen]

...not to barge in on you guys disgussing ...I've only read the Interview....once, yet....and I enjoyed it incredibly much, but I had to put even that down at times...use some time to devour it so to speak. But some stuff, books or movies, can be so captivating that its mind wrecking, in terms that it won't let you sleep at night and really bothers you...so I totally understand why you don't wanna read Anne Frank, Linte. I just know this is what you meant as well, Ilm, and you know what a wuzz I am! And no, I still don't wanna go to that camp!:brave:

[Adunauriel]

I've had to do that before Cuiel, put a book down to take it all in... I had read Interview - Queen of the Damned, so by the time I got to Tale of the Body Thief. I was totally drained, and still haven't finished reading it.. I know I'll have to eventually, but then again I haven't read Memnoch either.. Tho I have read The Vampire Armand, Merrick, & Blackwood Farm since... It's crazy what the mind will allow at times... Ah eventually I'll read the other two...:grin:

[Ilmarë]

Ah Memnoch... Lestat's descent into Hell... it was a difficult read... but i loved that book. Tale of the Body Thief is one of my favourite of the Chronicles.:cool:

[Cuiel Rilwen]

...I have so much stuff to read still...and been thinking I should read the next of the Chronicles in english rather than norwegian...still I have to read the Sil first. In english. I think it will take a while.:grin:

[Ilmarë]

Let me know if u can't find it in English, Cuiel! I read it (The Vampire Lestat) over Easter time again... was wonderful... made me realise how much i really missed reading the books.
Ah.. reading The Sil as we speak... :thumbs:

[Adunauriel]

I finished reading the Silm about a month ago... Love every minute of it... Even if it was a bit boreing at times...;)

[Ronin]

blah blah...vampires....blah blah blah...ummm...blah ;)

anywho, i completely understand what lint was saying and even cuiel...not wanting to experience such movies or books that will violate so emotively. its honestly the one reason that might keep me from seeing Irreversible. but then, i want that extreme...i want to be taken to those places, where my heart will be broken and perhaps remade. but thats...just me ;)

[Lintefaniel]

*GASP*!!! Tolkien boring...:elfeek: say it ain't soo? No, I have tried to read Anne Frank many times. I just can't get the sound of goosesteps and whispers of fear out of my head each time I get further and further into it. I know the story and I (for the stars only know) found myself enamoured with that aspect of the War for many years. Perhaps that it is why I cannot read the book...I studied too much on the persecution of Minorities and Jews during WWII.

I adore Interview....Vampire Lestat is my favorite and Queen is the penultimate!!
:wave:

[Ilmarë]

*brings in cushion from Moulin Rouge thread... whacks him over the head* :trout: .. ok, so its a fish.. not a cushion
Vampires.. just the most lucious, sensual, beautiful creatures in those books:batty:

[Adunauriel]

I know, I love the vampires.. I can't help but feel a connection to them..;)

[Lintefaniel]

BRAVO, BRAVO! Ilmarë, BRAVO!!!! :hooray: Not to be too harsh Ronin...of course you're loved..but remember this is the Vampire thread...so in essence..you just dug your own grave...:batty:

[Ilmarë]

*bows to Linte*.. why, thank you, my friend:cuddles: :smooch: .... dug his own grave.. Vampire thread...lol lol ... * tickles Ronin under the chin... tries to get rid of his pout*... awww, c'mon... you know we love u... *grins*.. even if you're vampirically challengedlol ;) :naughty:

[Lintefaniel]

I was going to say something along the lines of this the Resident Coven...but that would be Assuming too much...or maybe even something like opened his own wounds...??

[Cuiel Rilwen]

Originally posted by Ronin
i want that extreme...i want to be taken to those places, where my heart will be broken and perhaps remade. but thats...just me ;)

...bit of a masochist in you:mmmm: we should all go there of course...its just so that I don't want to repetedly! I will try occasionaly...only to chicken out ofcourse when it gets too heavy!:blush:

[Lintefaniel]

Ownly human!! I love reading for that very reason...it's the first of all other dimensions ever discussed about in this life...:)

[Catz]

it isnt masochistic at all i dont think..........its like love.......you hand a part of yourself over to another and you know that there are going to be painful episodes, but you hope that the end effect will be worth it
:catz:

[Ilmarë]

Cuiel... I think its slightly masochistic... but then .. isn't that the way of human nature? We all do things knowing that some of those things are going to bruise and tear at us... but we do it anyway. I guess the difference with literature, or movies for that matter, is that we have a choice as to whether or not to ... participate... in those feelings.... sometimes don't have that choice in real life.:rolleyes:

[Ronin]

i understand what u mean about studying too much, knowing too much Lint...maybe i'm just able to objectify it all. i've read all i could about WWII and the holocaust ever since i was 12, since the pictures...u know...since i was even younger. just went to Dachau about 2 years ago...i don't know, just me i guess. i like to be out of my comfort zone.

and i agree, slightly masochistic....but then, always been like that.

[Adunauriel]

I love being drawn into books.. I have one that Linte bought for me several years ago.. Still to this day, whenever I read it, it makes me cry.. I love it when I get emotionally involved in a book.. I think that should be a sign of a good book...:thumbs:

[Lintefaniel]

Yes, I didn't mean too!! :smooch: I adore reading, and I seem to envelope the worlds I venture to. I tend to enjoy being out of the comfort zone too, Ronin! But this is one exception I just cannot make. I simply cannot get through it.. it's too hard. I don't know how I ever watched Schindler's List but I did. I can't read it but I watched it! I have read "Night" by Elie Weisel and it wasn't as bad (don't know why) but I simply cannot read Anne, which really saddens me.

Anyway, enough about Anne and my issues...someday I'll conquer them and let you know!! My favorite book that I can alway go back to again and again and cry is Stephen King's IT! lol....Sounds strange...it's when Eddie dies...Can't do it..I always cry at that part and when they leave his body...mecry....and when Bev saves them all....mecry

[Catz]

the definition of masochism is that one takes pleasure in pain.......i dont think its a matter of taking pleasure in it as it being an inevitable consequence of life......and the counterpoint to the ups in a book......and there IS good pain too
like when you see or hear something so beautiful that its heartbreaking.......you simply cant contain it.....or as a friend of mine once put it.......sometimes you need to break things to make them change
:catz:

[Adunauriel]

An excellent point Catz, and yes I think we need the Highs & Lows of a book, or even movies for that matter.. That's what makes them interesting, and keeps us interested in them.. If a book is just flat with no high, or low points.. I think that's when we become bored, and stop reading it..

But, I've noticed one problem we've come across here, and that is that we've gone completely off topic.. I don't think I'll be misunderstood (atleast I hope not) when I suggest that maybe we get back on topic.. I'm thinking it's time to return to Ms. Rice...:grin:

[Lintefaniel]

Missus Rice...she is a Mrs.... Even if her beloved is passed on...You're right dear Adunauriel, thank for the reminder...But every now and then you never know when we might need a diversion like this...besides!! It might become relevant to the subject of Anne and her books in time as well!! ;)

[Adunauriel]

True, true, but I wouldn't be living up to my duties as a Mod if I didn't suggest a return to the topic... Then again, since other Mods were in on the off-topicness.. Then who am I to complain...;) lol

[Lintefaniel]

http://www.annerice.com/ph20030430.htm

BOYS AND GIRLS!!! AN Update on the Mistress's state of mind...She's got another Lestat Chronicle coming out and some info on the Witching Hour...Click here guys...you won't be disappointed...:hooray:

[Cuiel Rilwen]

Originally posted by Ilmarë
Cuiel... I think its slightly masochistic... but then .. isn't that the way of human nature? We all do things knowing that some of those things are going to bruise and tear at us... but we do it anyway. I guess the difference with literature, or movies for that matter, is that we have a choice as to whether or not to ... participate... in those feelings.... sometimes don't have that choice in real life.:rolleyes:

Certainly the ways of human nature is to be touched and to feel ...but what I was pointing at were the extremes...I don't mean that lifes odds and ends should be avoided to keep from being hurt...no risk no gain. And you're right, as we here are dealing with books and movies, I would sometimes choose not to be in that place of hurt. My reasons can differ from time to time, my life may be to tough at one time, or simply my moods too low, and in these cases I may watch or read the piece in question at another time. But if my experience with similar stories warns me about a piece...if something either scares me out of my wits, or leaves me in a state of disgust or anger or greef that affects me for weeks, not letting me sleep or participate fully in my life, then I just don't see the point in torturing myself.

Sorry Adun, just had to say this, I promise I won't wander off no more:blush:

Going to check that link, Lint!

[Ilmarë]

I get ya, Cuiel! Feel almost the same, actually. .. oh and Linte... thank you for that link.. i hadn't been in for a few weeks. Knowing that my beloved Lestat will be immortalised in print once again has brightened my day a bit!:grin:

[Lintefaniel]

Yippee :whoohoo:

[Ilmarë]

lol .. yup... double yippee!!:hooray: :hooray:

[Ronin]

pfbbt...whatever ;) lol

anyway, to the important stuff....i understand what u mean, catz, but an element of masochism is that true pain is pleasure. does that mean we like to see or read about a murder, a rape, or adultery? like hell, in fact. but, as i'm seeing this is all me, i want to be taken somewhere that scares me, disgusts me, or makes me hate. just as i want to be made happy, joyful, and ready to sing. life is mundane enough, those extremes are our way to feel. i understand completely someone not wanting to go to those dark corners...but myself, i can't help but do so. fight club....seven....is there any other reason i love david fincher? ;) american history x...i'm sure no one has seen that. ach, passion is hurt just as it is joy. i can't really separate the two...but its not possible, and for that, i may not enjoy...but i can savour and cherish. there is a difference.

[Mirkgirl]

How about making a thread about the 'masochism' in reading and let this thread stay on topic?

[Ronin]

No....*pouts*...no

btw, masochism relates heavily to Vamps...so pfbbt

[Lintefaniel]

ooooooooh, shame on Ronin.....;) :nono:

You make a point but so does Mirk and I think she is more right then you in this instance.. :) But you are loved...:smooch:

[Ilmarë]

Originally posted by Ronin
american history x...i'm sure no one has seen that.

Oops.. forgot to tell you... I HAVE seen American History X.... excellent movie.:thumbs:
You're also right about the fact that masochism relates heavily to vamps... i mean... look at Louis in the Vampire Chronicles... he's the biggest masochist in those books.. LOVES his pain.. embraces it even...tho he whines on about it and denies it.

[Lintefaniel]

Originally posted by Ilmarë

You're also right about the fact that masochism relates heavily to vamps... i mean... look at Louis in the Vampire Chronicles... he's the biggest masochist in those books.. LOVES his pain.. embraces it even...tho he whines on about it and denies it.

WOW!! I thought I was the only one who thoought that!! He lives to hurt...he didn't really want to die he wanted to continue hating himself because it made him feel closer to his brother again.
He's a sad sorry man that one...But I loved him sometimes..mostly for loving Lestat...(I'm off to the Train in an HOUR!!!):wiggle:

[Ilmarë]

No.. you're not the only one Linte... have always thought that about Louis... he revels in his pain.
Bon voyage!!!!!

[Lintefaniel]

BOYS AND GIRLS!!!!!:( what to do ??? I am so at a loss for words.....here...look at this link and tell me what your first thoughts are!!

VampireLestat and Elton John? (http://www.annerice.com/ph20030509.htm)

[Ilmarë]

My first thoughts... this could go either way... a complete success or a total disaster... I pray fervently not the latter!

[Lintefaniel]

I'm going to spam quickly...Ilmarë I've been ill that's why I haven't chatted....I'll PM you soon!!!:smooch:

[Lady Aerowen]

Daha, the owner of the thread has been away. Owner..maker..same thing ^_^ Anyways. Anything new on The Witching Hour? Has anyone else read Blackwood Farm yet? ;P Last time I checked, I was the only one on the thread who had. But I checked in..a few pages