How do you think The Two Towers will end?

[Talandil]

What I keep seeing in my head is Sam banging on the doors, tears streaming down his face, screaming, "Frodo! Froooodoooooooooo......"

*fade to black*

[Hans_Schuder]

I'm not sure how Frodo and Sam's thread will end for TTT, but my guess is that the last we see of the character's in Rohan is that conversation between Aragorn and Gandalf at night, of which we hear a bit in the trailers and get a few more lines in the game after defeating the Helm's Deep levels.
*slightly SPOILERISH*
:king: It starts off (I'm paraphrasing) "Sauron is not yet above fear. He fears you Aragorn, etc." and then he tells him that Sauron does not suspect the danger of the ringbearer creeping towards Mordor secretly to destroy the Ring.

That's just my guess. I think that part could very well be in the middle. :)

[Miruvor]

Well, I think you will lose, Talandil. Why don't we make this a prediction game, then after Dec. 18th we can come back here and give ! ! ! hoorays ! ! ! :gofatty: :hooray: :whoohoo: notworthy :gofatty: :hooray: to whoever got closest.

I wish it would end with Frodo and Sam sitting in the rocky cliffs below Cirith Ungol, abandoned by Gollum, and talking about whether they will be mentioned in the stories of the ages, and Frodo says, I hope they include the way Sam talks, because he is so funny, Then Frodo laughs and it echoes through the crags.

But I suspect it will end with Mithrandir, Pippin, and Shadowfax riding off into the daybreak towards Gondor, after everyone else has determined their next path. (Although, they might make that the beginning of the next movie, if they are short on time.)

I hope they don't try to condense too much stuff into ROTK, and rush it, because that would be as disappointing as that dumb cartoon movie where they ended the whole thing at Helms Deep and left the audience saying "What? - Where is the rest?"

[Faramir]

A very cool ending on the Frodo and Sam half would be (sice there is no Shelob until ROTK) when they get to the cross roads and the sun is setting and Frodo sees the defiled statue, with the head missing. He then sees the head on the ground, with flowers growing around the top of it. Frodo says, "Look, Sam! Look! The king has got a crown again! They cannot conquer forever!" Then they start walkling to cirith ungol. The End (of TTT)

[TheRingBearer]

That's a really good one rearviewmirrorPJ.

I'd have them walking into the darkness when a huge shadow fills the screen, causing it to fade to black. It's Shelobs shadow and you still don't see her but you get the impression. People who haven't read the books will wonder what it was while we will be glad she was included :thumbs:

[Little Devil]

I sure that PJ wont disappoint us with a really naff ending! ;)

[Talandil]

True, Sam banging on the doors isn't until ROTK, but I figured that the Shelob scene and then Frodo's capture would make for a nice cliffhanger.
I agree with Little Devil that it will likely be fine, no matter what he does.

[NoldoR]

I had hoped it would end with Sam bangin on the doors, but it will not. Instead i think it will end with Sam and Frodo reaching the valley of Minas Morgul, and looking up on that mountain stairs.

[Polly Sandybanks]

Since it's a movie I don't think it will end right in the middle of something exciting.. endings like that are for soap operas. I think it will probably end sort of like the last movie ended, with Sam and Frodo talking and then continuing their journey. Or with some of the others talking. Probably.
I don't really want to think about the end of it though.. because when I see the end that will mean that I have to wait for a whole year.. AGAIN.. to see the rest. I'm not sure if I can stand that, but oh well. :)
Oh.. and I'll get my extended collectors edition DVD of Fellowship of the Ring on tuesday!! :) :whoohoo: I can't believe it!

[Little Devil]

Yay, only two days!!!!!!!! So happy! and 37 days until TTT comes out!!!!!!! veryhappy :whoohoo: :whoohoo:

[Kazren]

At first I thought that they'd follow the victors to Isengard, but now I'm not too sure. . . Something Peter Jackson said about the Helm's Deep battle ending ten minutes before the movie ends. How could they accomplish the "Floatsom & Jetsome" bit? They could never fit in the verbal duel between Saruman and everyone else in 10 minutes.

If Peter was way off on his timing, then I imagine Gandalf & Pippin heading for Minas Tirith, and Aragorn and what's left of the Elven contingent heading towards the Path of the Dead would rattle my little socks enough to drool ceaslessly for the next year in anticipation of RotK :D

[TheRingBearer]

Ooo the Paths of the Dead would be a great way to end it. It leaves the audienece wondering what is in the paths of the dead and draws their attention (for the time being) away from Shelob which I imagine PJ will want to keep secret for people who have not read the books.

[Sauron]

Well, Nothing I've seen so far has had anything with the Voice Of Saruman Chapter. So I think the last part with Aragorn and Company with be heading to Isengard with the music blasting(Much like FOTR) and then we'll see Frodo,Sam,Gollum going into Shelob's cave then Gollum's song starts playing

Sauron

[Luthien]

Hmm, I think it would be awesome if (since they are cutting Shelob until ROTK) if they at least had them just before they enter Shelobs layer, you know kind of creepy well that doesn't look like a good place vibe. I hope they don't put the palantir in ROTK that would be horrible.

[TheRingBearer]

The Palantir would have to be in TT i think because we've spent time bonding with Pippin through his ordeal with the urak hai so we do need to see what effect it had on him.
Welcome to the forums by the way Sauron and Luthien.

[Fatty]

Hmm I can't see him ending with Frodo and Sam about to mak eanother effort, as FOTR ended like that, people would be like.....not again. So I reckon it might end in Rohan, though waht about Denethor.....

I don't know about Flotsam and Jetson but certianly they filmed Merry and Pip in a store room, see down a bit on main page news for photo...I guess we will find out soon.

[TheRingBearer]

Yeah, ending with Frodo and Sam again might mirror fellowship. I think they could end it with the whole palantir part with Pippin and Gandalf or the voice of Saruman. The camera could slowly pan away from a defeated Isengard and fade to credits.

[Sauron]

John Rhys Davies said in an interview that Denothor(SP?) would not be in TT. To tell the truth, I want an action ending, Fellowship's ending was just right so the next two will need an ending of their own(I vote for Isengard Myself)


Sauron

[Fatty]

Well there is no sound track for VOS, however, it ould be they just arrive to see Isengard in ruins............else what is the store room, though agian they find it early on.

Also we know that Treebeard takes them to the 'local wizard' now I thought it will be Gandlaf though somoen emailed me and said Saruman, bu tI doubt he leaves Orthanc in TTT movie. So I am guessing it will be oh they think it is Saruman an dreally Gandalf.......then again this will look a bit weak as The Three Hunters will just have doen this scene.....lots to think about.

I am expecting big changes.

[Sauron]

Yeah, On my TT book, it shows Saruman looking out from a ledge, I always thought it would be the VoS part, though now with new pics it's most likely him looking over his army, though he is looking down.

If they stick to the book, the Ents will hate Saurman, Treebeard even loses his "Calmness" While talking about him, I doubt he would take M & P too see Saurman, It will most likely be Gandalf, Since PJ said no other wizards would be in the movies beside Gandalf, Saurman and Sauron


Sauron

[Quickbeam15]

eNTS.... WHERES THE ENT NEWS AND PICS OF ALL THE DIFFRENT ENTS?

[Narsil's weilder]

Of it is going to end in th strating of ROTK, why not it be when Pippin pledges to Denathor II.

[Narsil's weilder]

Actually a good ending would be The Nazgul flying over the party when Pippin sees into the stone.

[Varda]

i´ve heard the story ends in the sewers of osgiliath.
but i ask myself where they have put the one trailer scene with sam and frodo (you know where anything´s wrong with frodo, maybe he is injured or so - no idea) ..
maybe the trailer scene happens in the sewers but i don´t think shelob will appear in it.
...*think*

that´s a really good thread to discuss ...

:p
greetings
varda

[TheRingBearer]

Yeah we know Shelob will not appear :( but that sounds like a pretty good end anyway.

[Narsil's weilder]

I hope Shelob is in TTT or ROTK

[Orkybash]

I'd say its pretty much given that she will be. I mean she *is* too major a plot point for Peter to take out entirely!

[Ithielnor]

ok I don't know if this has been posted anywhere else, but this (http://www.aintitcoolnews.com/display.cgi?id=13872) gives an idea how it may end.

it makes sense.

[Lorien]

I think that it will end so totally different from the book. Rumors are said that Saurman dies in the Two Towers. I believe that we will see Theoden and his troops go back to Edoras while Aragorn and his troops head to the paths of the death while frodo and sam and gollum reach the crossroads and see the king with his crown.

[Talandil]

Actually, i just checked, and Shelob is in TTT...in the books anyway...I still wonder if PJ will end it in a cliffhanger.

[Darth Saruman]

its set up so perfectly to end on Sam running after Frodo and the door closes on him and they could have done a slow motion thing of Sam slamming into the door and falling to the ground......

and for people who don't know the story, they would have thought Frodo was dead.

UNFORTUNATELY, since Shelob is officially not in TTT but RotK instead, this ending will never be.

Some suit who only cares about the general audience and not the real fans, complained about Elijah and Sean not having enough screen time in RotK if the Shelob scene was to be in TTT....oh well it will still be awesome, but it was just so perfect!

[Pilgrim Grey]

Hi, I'm new here :) I'm usually from the COE, but I can't get it to work ATM, so here I am.

I'm not sure if it was just a mistake or something, but on the writer's commentary of the SE, PJ says that we don't see Minas Morgul again until ROTK.... If this is true then I'm guessing the VoS or the Sacking of Isengard won't be in either... mecry but I guess that means that we won't have any RSWD :grin:

[Polly Sandybanks]

I read that Aragorn will get his sword in TTT. It might end with that!?
ROTK will probably end with Sam coming back to the Shire to his daughter. That will be a peaceful ending. Ah.. I want to see that, but still I don't.. because when I see it it will all be over. mecry

[son_of_gondor]

I think it'll be a pretty simple case of gandalf heading to gondor and aragorn heading for the paths of the dead, but as for sam&frodo..... for all the stuff like the previews that Peter Jackson has given away, I think he's holding something back - something pretty dramatic I reckon, since I can't imagine it being another ending with them walking 'casually' off into the distance.

Maybe a hint at Shelob, Gollum going to see her to hatch his plan, so you get a bit of suspense? It'd make sense I reckon since we're reaching the climax in a year and 25 days.....

Scary cliffhanger, please!!!!

[Adamanta Baggins]

Originally posted by Darth Saruman
UNFORTUNATELY, since Shelob is officially not in TTT but RotK instead, this ending will never be.

Some suit who only cares about the general audience and not the real fans, complained about Elijah and Sean not having enough screen time in RotK if the Shelob scene was to be in TTT....oh well it will still be awesome, but it was just so perfect!

i know!! i'm so disapointed. it would have been the perfect ending!! so, does frodo not "die" then? cuz, in the trailer, there is that one part where you see sam freaking out and grabbing frodo's hand and he looks.... not too good. so maybe they're planning on having some other way for frodo to "die"? i dont know. i just think they should have left it the way it was in the books. they would have enough time too if they left out all those scenes in rivendell cuz of stupid arwen... grrrrrr.

i also heard that sauron was going to die in TTT? is that true?

-Adamanta

[Adamanta Baggins]

Originally posted by Darth Saruman
UNFORTUNATELY, since Shelob is officially not in TTT but RotK instead, this ending will never be.

Some suit who only cares about the general audience and not the real fans, complained about Elijah and Sean not having enough screen time in RotK if the Shelob scene was to be in TTT....oh well it will still be awesome, but it was just so perfect!

i know!! i'm so disapointed. it would have been the perfect ending!! so, does frodo not "die" then? cuz, in the trailer, there is that one part where you see sam freaking out and grabbing frodo's hand and he looks.... not too good. ( http://www.ccmbuzz.com/showthread.html?threadid=13336 ) so maybe they're planning on having some other way for frodo to "die"? i dont know. i just think they should have left it the way it was in the books. they would have enough time too if they left out all those scenes in rivendell cuz of stupid arwen... grrrrrr.

i also heard that sauron was going to die in TTT? is that true?

-Adamanta

[son_of_gondor]

i doubt sauron dies in TT - did you mean saruman? there have certainly been enough rumours - and that picture of a white wizard impaled on a very isengard - style wheel.....wellll..........

I think the sam freaking out stuff is probably dead marshes stuff - connected to that shot in the trailers of Frodo falling into the marshes.

But the official 'visual companion' books for the film end at helm's deep & osgiliath... considering the fotr books all missed out the amon hen stuff, I'm betting there's something big we've not been told. Gandalf & Aragorn confront saruman?? Frodo & Sam........? Dunno, but I'd still love there to be a hint at Gollum leading them into a trap in ROTK, to really build anticipation.

[Lady Melody]

I just wish the scouring of the shire would be shown... *sighs*

[son_of_gondor]

I dunno, I'm probably the only one but I've never been keen on the scouring of the shire, even in the books, but I don't think it'd make sense in ROTK, people watching would be like'what's this extra bit tacked onto the end after the good guys won???!!!'

So yeah, the Mirror of Galadriel scouring was enough for me, as great as PJ's Sauron related destruction looks on film. Roll on Minas Morgul and Mordor!

[Darth Saruman]

lord i hope they don't kill saruman in this one, that would be ridiculous, although if they don't show the scouring of the shire, when will saruman's character be resolved?

i am also thinking that there will be a hint of Shelob at the end...the second to last song on the soundtrack is entitled "Sam The Brave"....hmm

[A! Elbereth]

Originally posted by Miruvor
Well, I think you will lose, Talandil. Why don't we make this a prediction game, then after Dec. 18th we can come back here and give ! ! ! hoorays ! ! ! :gofatty: :hooray: :whoohoo: notworthy :gofatty: :hooray: to whoever got closest.

I wish it would end with Frodo and Sam sitting in the rocky cliffs below Cirith Ungol, abandoned by Gollum, and talking about whether they will be mentioned in the stories of the ages, and Frodo says, I hope they include the way Sam talks, because he is so funny, Then Frodo laughs and it echoes through the crags.

But I suspect it will end with Mithrandir, Pippin, and Shadowfax riding off into the daybreak towards Gondor, after everyone else has determined their next path. (Although, they might make that the beginning of the next movie, if they are short on time.)

I hope they don't try to condense too much stuff into ROTK, and rush it, because that would be as disappointing as that dumb cartoon movie where they ended the whole thing at Helms Deep and left the audience saying "What? - Where is the rest?"

I like that idea - a lot :thumbs: mecry... makes me kind of sad....:(

But I'm thinking PJ will not end the second movie the same way as the first - with just Frodo and Sam. I think it will probably end with Aragorn or Gandalf. :huh: but then again, my guesses aren't as good as some of yours.

[son_of_gondor]

Got to say, I think it's generally accepted that Saruman will die in TTT after the 'wizard on the wheel' photo that's been around since before FOTR.

I've heard more but won't give out any big spoilers on here for obvious reasons. Except to say that PJ said on the FOTR commentary that the Scouring won't appear for sure... he did simplify a lot of stuff in FOTR, so to me The Scouring Of The Shire was bound to go.

[Morgoth The Great]

i think that the two towers will end with the scene as aragorn meets merry and pippin in the ruins of isengart (i think, in the gallery, there´s a photo of this scene).that would be a nice ending:helms klamm is rescued, isengart destroyed and frodo has arrived at the gates of mordor.another possible ending would be the scene as gollum shows them the gates of mordor.

[Ithielnor]

Unfortunately, however, that ending is not likely as Faramir is allmost definitely in TTT, also that would leave Frodo and Sam about four or five days behind the rest of the fellowship. But it may end something like that at Isengard, only Sam and Frodo parting with Faramir or at the crossroads, as this would put them on or about the same date.

[Bess the Bard]

I'll put my two cents worth in. I don't think Saruman will die in TTT. Christopher Lee said in a recent interview that he didn't know when Saruman dies but Lee said he is going to appear in ROTK.

Given that the end credit song is Gollum's Song, I think the movie may end with Gollum, looking at the sleeping hobbits, having his moment of debate with "himselves" on whether to betray them to Shelob. Whether it's a suspicious Sam, like the book, or just Gollum losing the battle with himself, Gollum makes his decision to lead them to Shelob. Movie ends with Gollum leading them up the stair to Cirith Ungol, to an unknown fate.....

[Elfdream]

Have you all looked at the "Photo Guide" book? It tells the story of the movie (but I'm sure its not the whole thing!) It ends with Gandalf saying something to the effect of "All our Hopes are with two hobbits walking somewhere in the wilderness" ...that's not an exact quote. I don't have the book with me. The last picture in the book is Sam and Frodo walking in the sunlight and they look cleaned up which I assumed meant they had just parted with Faramir.

I thought if that was the way it ended, it would be pretty anti-climatic!

Elfdream

[son_of_gondor]

Yeah, the thing about the Photo Guide Books is that they do cut out a fair bit of the ending - look at the FOTR one, it ends with Lothlorien - so I'm betting on something more cliffhanger-y; I still favour hints of Gollum & Shelob conspiring. Or maybe they hobbits seeing the army come out of Minas Morgul?

I always wondered actually, with all the 4 minute previews and PJ giving so much to fans of the film, whether he's holding something huge back. In a way I did wonder whether Shelob not being in TTT was a total a lie and we're in for a massive surprise. Probably not, but I reckon there's one big surprise....

[Darth Saruman]

i am with son_of_gondor on that one...something has to happen with shelob, maybe we will see one of her legs come into the shot or something....

its also nice to hear, christopher lee will be in RotK and not die in TTT....you know they could still put him in the Shire, with out showing the whole scouring....maybe they'll make it so Saruman is about to do something to the Shire when the Hobbits return.

[Narsil's weilder]

According to a interview with PJ in TIME, TT will be the movie that most strays from the book.

[Sauron]

You got to think though, the ending has to go along with the end credit's music, though i haven't heard it yet, Gollum's song will be slow paced. I'm thinking another "We may yet Mr. Frodo" ending, with gollum saying something. I'm even thinking a ending like they had in the 1976 Bashki's cartoon version Those of you who hasn't seen it yet(Lucky You!!!) it ends with Frodo and sam following Gollum and Gandalf throwing his sword in the air at the end of Helm's Deep, though the overvoice won't make the mistake of saying "The forces of darkness was driven forever from Middle Earth by Frodo" without Frodo even destorying the Ring!!

[Narsil's weilder]

Originally posted by Sauron
"The forces of darkness was driven forever from Middle Earth by Frodo"

Actually the saying was, "The forces of darkness was driven forever from Middle Earth by the friends of Frodo."

[son_of_gondor]

Yep, the Bakshi version, that line should read:

"The forces of darkness was driven forever from Middle Earth by the friends of Frodo, along with any cash for the next part of this cartoon. Sorrreeeeeeeeeeee!."

[Aerandir]

Originally posted by Talandil
What I keep seeing in my head is Sam banging on the doors, tears streaming down his face, screaming, "Frodo! Froooodoooooooooo......"

*fade to black*

Well, I just saw this thread. And I like your endind Talandil.

~Aera

[Miruvor]

:o :elfeek: :o :elfeek: :o
Oh my gosh! That Lights Out Review really narrowed it down. But some of us here are pretty close. We'll see on the 18th for sure.
I'm so disappointed that the Pippin looking in the palantir scene will no doubt be left out, since the ring is seen by Sauron in Gondor. verymad

[TheRingBearer]

I know how it ends from a review. If you really want to know PM me, I think I can summarise.

[son_of_gondor]

Yes, good to see a tense ending coming - not unlike the one I was hoping for :)

[A! Elbereth]

I read the ending too...... I don't know if I like it or not, because I didn't read thouroughly, and I don't want to read it again because I want a surprise, even though I pretty much know what happens at the end for Frodo and Sam... didn't read what happened at the end for the others because I couldn't take in so much info.

[Miruvor]

No, that's OK, I got the gist of it from the review, but I don't want absolute specifics. Thanks though.

(It does sound like way more of a cliffhanger than the FOTR, which is a good thing! I know it will be awesome.)
:grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:

[Beren]

Here is how I would like it to end:
Sam thinks Frodo has been killed by Shelob. So, he takes the Ring, Sting, and the Phial of Galadriel. He then sets off to finish the quest alone. The last shot would be Frodo laying on the hill, presumably dead, after Sam has left. Then fade to the credits.

That would be a good cliffhanger because people who did not read the book would think Frodo was actually dead. Of course, they would ruin the secret in the ROTK previews. Just like they did with Gandalf. My wife was sad when Gandalf fell in Moria. I kept it a secret so she would be surprised when he returned in TTT. But the previews let the cat out of the bag. Oh, well.

And, by the way, the exclusion of Shelob from TTT is very lame.

[Miruvor]

Hey, welcome there, Beren. I think most of us would like to have it end closer to the book. Yours would be the ultimate cliffhanger. But we are making guesses (contest style) at how we think Peter J. will end the movie. I think yours will lose, according to the early reviews. Now, if Tolkien were making the movie, you might be right on.

[Mrs_Leg0Las]

I predict TTT will end with the credits...lol...j/k!

Listening to the last two songs from the TTT soundtrack, "Samwise the Brave" and "Gollum's Song," I think Gollum betrays the hobbits and they will enter into a creepy place (Cirith Ungol/Spider's Pass) or "something" will be lurking behind them...SHELOB! Listen to "Samwise the Brave." The score paints the mood for that particular scene. I think "Gollum's Song" will be used for the credits.

[Miruvor]

OK, I reviewed all the predictions and picked out the ones I think were closest. If I missed any good ones, feel free to add them starting as #9.

Go ahead and vote by number on which of these 8 you think comes closest to wining the gold, silver, and bronze.

1. Miruvor: I wish it would end with Frodo and Sam sitting in the rocky cliffs below Cirith Ungol, abandoned by Gollum, and talking about whether they will be mentioned in the stories of the ages, and Frodo says, I hope they include the way Sam talks, because he is so funny, Then Frodo laughs and it echoes through the crags. But I suspect it will end with Mithrandir, Pippin, and Shadowfax riding off into the daybreak towards Gondor, after everyone else has determined their next path.

2. PollySandybanks: Since it's a movie I don't think it will end right in the middle of something exciting.. endings like that are for soap operas. I think it will probably end sort of like the last movie ended, with Sam and Frodo talking and then continuing their journey.

3. Sauron: So I think the last part with Aragorn and Company with be heading to Isengard with the music blasting(Much like FOTR) and then we'll see Frodo,Sam,Gollum going into Shelob's cave then Gollum's song starts playing.

4. Son_of_gondor: I think he's (PJ) holding something back - something pretty dramatic I reckon, since I can't imagine it being another ending with them walking 'casually' off into the distance.
Maybe a hint at Shelob, Gollum going to see her to hatch his plan, so you get a bit of suspense? It'd make sense I reckon since we're reaching the climax in a year and 25 days.....

5. Darth Saruman: something has to happen with shelob, maybe we will see one of her legs come into the shot or something....
i am also thinking that there will be a hint of Shelob at the end...the second to last song on the soundtrack is entitled "Sam The Brave"....hmm

6. Bess the Bard: Given that the end credit song is Gollum's Song, I think the movie may end with Gollum, looking at the sleeping hobbits, having his moment of debate with "himselves" on whether to betray them to Shelob. Whether it's a suspicious Sam, like the book, or just Gollum losing the battle with himself, Gollum makes his decision to lead them to Shelob. Movie ends with Gollum leading them up the stair to Cirith Ungol, to an unknown fate.....

7. ElfDream: "Photo Guide" book says It ends with Gandalf saying something to the effect of "All our Hopes are with two hobbits walking somewhere in the wilderness" ...that's not an exact quote. I don't have the book with me. The last picture in the book is Sam and Frodo walking in the sunlight and they look cleaned up which I assumed meant they had just parted with Faramir.

8. Mrs. Legolas: Listening to the last two songs from the TTT soundtrack, "Samwise the Brave" and "Gollum's Song," I think Gollum betrays the hobbits and they will enter into a creepy place (Cirith Ungol/Spider's Pass) or "something" will be lurking behind them...SHELOB! Listen to "Samwise the Brave." The score paints the mood for that particular scene. I think "Gollum's Song" will be used for the credits.


(I think that WAS Gollum’s song over the credits - right? Mir.)