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TheRingBearer
November 8th,2002, 11:25 PM
We've been discussing how TTT should end so why not how the next one will open. I know its a loong way off mecry :p but that hasn't stopped me thinking about how it could begin.
I think it should fade into Gandalf riding across the plains with Pippin on his back :thumbs: What do you think?
Pil
November 9th,2002, 08:14 PM
I dunno...i think they should have the whole merry/theoden thing first...not that i'm partial to a bit of the old dom... lol
Bonos-Girl
November 11th,2002, 06:41 PM
well....it does kinda depend on how ttt finishes...
b3n
November 12th,2002, 05:09 AM
TTT should end with sam running at the door and having it slam on him with a large boom..
..and ROTK opening with gandalf and pippin right towards minas tirith
Blackdragon
November 17th,2002, 07:13 PM
Shelob isn't going to be in TTT, so that ending won't work. :(
Orkybash
November 18th,2002, 06:48 AM
I like the black screen and lyrical words they used for the opening of Fellowship, I hope Peter uses it in TTT and RotK!
Here's my vision of the RotK opening... it should start with a black screen, like Felloship, with Aragorn's verse said over it (you know "All that is gold does not glitter/Not all who wander are lost...") Then, since they changed around how Aragorn getting Anduril, I think it should open with him recieving the sword. It would be a fitting symbol of his kingship, given at the beginning of the movie where he reclaims it, and a logical transition from a poem that talks about the broken sword being reforged. That would just be the coolest opening ever, though something tells me PJ's going to do something completely different than the black screen for the next two movies...
Blackdragon
November 22nd,2002, 04:55 AM
Wow Orkybash! That would be a truley amazing beginning to ROTK, you have a really good imagination.
TheRingBearer
November 22nd,2002, 10:55 AM
Yeah that is a good opening except I think Aragorn is getting Anduril in TTT. I'm not too sure cause in the trailer you see Arwen taking the shards of narsil...
Orkybash
November 22nd,2002, 06:11 PM
Thanks, blackdragon! I acutally read a long time ago that he'll get it in RotK, but that may have been changed. Who knows what the significance of the Shards of Narsil scene in the TTT trailers is? Or if that's even Arwen (probably is, but :huh: )
Bonos-Girl
November 23rd,2002, 02:46 PM
i think it's been confirmed that t is arwen and she will give it to him in tt.....sorry
Orkybash
November 23rd,2002, 05:17 PM
Ah, OK. I must have avoided that spoiler.
Still, I think the "all that is gold" poem would be a great way to open it!
Polly Sandybanks
November 23rd,2002, 05:36 PM
I like that opening Orkybash. :)
I think it might be easier to guess the opening of ROTK when we've seen the opening of TTT.
Ah.. I can't wait!!
Gil-galad Elven King
December 15th,2002, 10:58 PM
Originally posted by TheRingBearer
We've been discussing how TTT should end so why not how the next one will open. I know its a loong way off mecry :p but that hasn't stopped me thinking about how it could begin.
I think it should fade into Gandalf riding across the plains with Pippin on his back :thumbs: What do you think?
i agree this is how ROTK should open
Keverzwijn
December 16th,2002, 12:32 PM
OK, I think Rotk will open with a big bang. PJ likes big openings to get people's attention(battle at the prologue in FoTR, Gandalf vs Balrog in TTT). So Rotk will probaly do the same. Now what is big enough to start of with. I was thinking about Shelob but that would need al little introduction so it might take to long. What else is possible. I havent seen TTT yet but I've seen many spoilers that I kinda know the story. Anybody has an idea?
Pilgrim Grey
December 16th,2002, 01:20 PM
Well, apparently, TTT opens (SPOILERS!!!)
with some establishing shots of the Misty Mountains, and then heads straight into Moria
(END SPOILER!!!)
So I think PJ's going to give us a rollercoaster opening, possibly the whole Isnegard/Voice of Saruman thing? (I hope that isn't a spoiler)
EDIT: Whoops, you guys don't have spoiler codes here...
Sméagol
December 30th,2002, 03:57 PM
I think rotk should start with a recollection of certain events that happened in the preceding film just like ttt did and like fotr did also. Then a wide or panoramic shot of gandalf riding to isengard and seeing tHe RETURN OF THE KING just like for ttt and FOTR. And we could here again what gandalf said in ttt : "One part of your journey is over, another one begins" The poem of aragorn could go well in trailers. Anyways my 2 cents!
Rumil
December 30th,2002, 06:33 PM
Originally posted by Pilgrim Grey
So I think PJ's going to give us a rollercoaster opening, possibly the whole Isnegard/Voice of Saruman thing?
yes i think he will go for the big impact opening and breaking Saruman's staff might well be it.
Veefy
December 31st,2002, 01:10 PM
How about Saruman dying within the first couple of minutes?
Draennon
December 31st,2002, 01:39 PM
Barad-Dur. It will begin with a pan of a nazgul (the Witch King) riding to Minas Morgul and then a shot of Minas Morgul's gates opening as Sauron's final attack on Gondor begins....
PJ and his team shout be able to milk this for all it is worth.
Hedon
December 31st,2002, 06:22 PM
As said before, PJ likes to start the movies with a bang. Both FotR and TTT started with moments of relative tranquillity though. I imagine the movie beginning with a pan into Minas Tirith, and to Denethor. Him standing over the Palantir in trance. Then the image of the forces of Mordor being unleashed, and Denethor recoiling back in horror. That way both Minas Tirith, Denethor and the imminent battle are established early on.
Mr Shirefolk
January 1st,2003, 01:02 AM
I think The Return of the King will open with the continuation of the flooding of Isengard. Then Gandalf et al will appear on the horizon and once Aragorn appears the ROTK logo will come on screen.
What will happen to Treebeard? Surely we will only see him in the first few minutes of the movie?
Keverzwijn
January 1st,2003, 02:23 PM
These last two replioes have good points. They both sound as a possibility to me. Altough I do think there not gonna dismiss Treebeard early on in the movie. But there will be a big opener, so this could be Denethor or Sarman.
Iorlas
January 3rd,2003, 10:34 AM
Though most likely it will begin with Saruman/Isenguard stuff, I think it would be awsome to have it begin with a Denethor sequence of him seeing Mordor's splendor and then seeing Faramir let Frodo and Sam and have him say anything that is cool and dramatic.
Huan the Hound
January 5th,2003, 12:11 AM
PJ has said that he wants the films to play like one, as if you went for a year long popcorn break and came back to your seat in the theater.
originally posted by Draennon
Barad-Dur. It will begin with a pan of a nazgul (the Witch King) riding to Minas Morgul and then a shot of Minas Morgul's gates opening as Sauron's final attack on Gondor begins....
PJ and his team shout be able to milk this for all it is worth.
I very much agree with this as the opening for RotK. This would make the most sense from the way that PJ is putting the films together. He started with attention grabbing scenes on both films which then leads to hobbit centric scenes. Both films also ended with a Frodo and Sam scene as well.
The Witch King retreating back to Minas Morgul with a report of the Ring being in Gondor will begin the massing of Sauron's armies towards Minas Tirith. All of this of course would depend upon added scenes and explainations of Minas Morgul in the extended version of TTT. :grin:
Faramir
January 5th,2003, 12:21 AM
That would be a good opener, because we really haven't seen much of Sauron's armies, besides the Easterling's and Southron's.
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