Harry Potter - warning spoilers for OotP

[Sindarin]

Does anyone else enjoy it?

Personally, I liked reading the novels and thought the first film was excellent, and I am looking forward to seeing the second forthcoming movie later this year. :thumbs:

[A! Elbereth]

I'm sorry... but I cant stand Harry Potter becuase of all the witch craft and evil ressurections... yuck! I dont want to be the thorn in this thread but ewwww

[Sindarin]

That's okay, I appreciate and respect your opinion. entdraught

[Beregond]

I like the books, but I didn't like the movie much. It seemed like harry just sat there and smiled. But then again, it seems like thats all Frodo and Neo did. (In FOTR and the Matrix, repectively.) I dunno. I'll have to watch it again.

[A! Elbereth]

Are you saying that Frodo did nothing!?!?!? :flamer:verymad:angry:ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!! ahhhhhH! ahh! HOW DARE YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.......
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Hey! And I defend Neo too! He saved the deathy-looking, bummer world! HES THE ONE!!!!!!!!!!!! aaaaaaaahahhahaha
(Mr. Anderson.... The name.... is NEO... BAM!)

......never insult the great Frodo and Neo!

[Lady Arien]

My son and I have read all the Harry Potter books and are eagerly awaiting the next movie. The first one was extremely well done....no liberties being taken with the story (something we can't honestly say about FOTR, can we?) As a great believer in all things magickal, I fear no thorns, though it seems they pop up all over the place, even when they're not needed.

[Bonos-Girl]

I loved the books and the film.
professor snape is gorgeous. (don't take the **** like a certain friend of mine, pleeeeze!!!).
He was really cool and did anyone else think he looked ever so slightly like ozzy osbourne????

:flamer: :flamer: :batty: :batty: :batty: :batty: :batty: :batty:

[Pil]

Ok NO!!!!! Do not insult Ozzy Osbourne! :batty:

Sindarin, i love harry potter (the books) too! Unfortunately the first book is not my fav so i didn't enjoy the film so much. The second book is better though and my fav is the third. How bout u? ;)

[Catz]

A! Elbereth....please dont diss witchcraft when you obviously dont know anything about it, ok? its a legitimate religious choice for many people and ok, it may not be your bag, but do it the respect of knowing something about it before you slag it off, please......*smiles*...here endeth the rant....HP is a piece of FICTION...it just amazes me how many people get so worked up about it......

[Bonos-Girl]

yeh, any form of paganism (especially wicca) is a religion and has been for years. Many people think that it is not a legitimate religion or that pagans worship the devil, this is by no means true, wicca (the most popular form of paganism) believe in a god and goddess and would never think of hurting someone. there is a rule that they live by and that is that whatever you do it will come back to you threefild, basically if someone is really horrible then they will get that done to them 3 times but if they are nice then the kindness will come back to them 3 times.
sorry to go on for such a long time but i feel that this had to be stated.

[Lady Arien]

I have a great bumper sticker on my car "Don't hold strong opinions about things you don't understand".....thank you, ladies....I couldn't have said it any better....except for, "An it harm none, do what ye will"

[A! Elbereth]

:oWell I have a different opinion about if it harms people or not... but if i say my opinion i know exactly what you will say or think becuase well... everyone who I warn about the Harry potter books shove it back in my face kinda like what just happened... dont get mad at me... I'm just a christian with very strong opinions about what i believe in. I dont take any offense of what people say to me about that... so you can say what you will :) If I tell you all the millions of reasons why I stay away from HP you will probably murder me with words :) Please accept my apology

And if you say HP is kinda like LOTR I will scream becuase it isnt... Tolkien was a christian too and theres something in the story that....I'm sorry never mind

at least someone repects my opinion... and catz if you want me to respect your thoughts... your gonna have to respect mine. ok??

[Illuvatar]

Well, before this gets WAY too off topic.:p

I must add my two cents.:)

I am also christian, and catholic-christian ta' boot! And from what I understand, that means that I must be tolerant of all other human beings and not be judgemental over anyone elses beliefs.

With that being said, I rather enjoyed Harry Potter!! I thought it was more geared for children that FOTR is and that's perfectly fine. It had a decent story line and the special effects were kewl as well!!:thumbs:

I believe that there are many other forums on other sites in which to discuss religion and or politics. And we also have a forum entitled The Prancing Pony where you can discuss whatever your heart desires. This forum was not created for that use.

Thanks,
Illu

[A! Elbereth]

*SIGHS* yes sir......*sulks*
argh i have so many things to say

[Mirkgirl]

There's nothing that wrong with the movie HP... I didn't enjoy it much, but a it's decent film.

But all the HP crazy kids make me hate it...

And about the changes books-movie, I haven't read HP books but they were written about the same time the film was out so no wonder there was not much change, they were (I pressume) written to be filmed.

[Lady Arien]

Actually, the first book was written in '97....Rowling's success was actually a fluke....she never dreamed that it would become so popular (I read a story about her in a magazine somewhere). Even as an adult, I find the books very entertaining. Sure, the merchandising is overboard, but that seems to happen with everything these days....we jumped on the bandwagon for Halloween last year, but I must admit my son was an adorable Harry! I guess it really appeals to me because Harry is such the underdog in the mortal (Muggle) world, and boy, can I relate!

[Bonos-Girl]

omg, thers this site and it claims that the harry potter craze was formed in the mind of satan himself....There is this huge essay arguing this point....what is the point??? let the people who like it read it I say.

[Pil]

Actually, one of the reasons that both harry potter and lotr appeal to me is that the characters do not seem to follow religions (at least not so outrightly that it is completely obvious and actually MAKES their character). I think that is why both films appeal to a wide range of people...no-one is offended or put out. :) Not that i have a problem with religion being included in film...sometimes that can be very powerful. :elf:

[Ilmarë]

Illuvatar....thank you!:grin:

[Bonos-Girl]

i agree with u pil, the fact that there is no obvious refernce to religion means that a wider range of people and cultures will enjoy it.

[Illuvatar]

Quite welcome Ilmare!!

We are never alone.....

:cool:

[Pil]

Huh? :huh:

Oh well... so, what everyone else's fav book out of the series? My fav's the third. :)

[Bonos-Girl]

i like all of them but my favourite is the prisonar of azkaban (or however it's spelt!!) i like the idea of a map whih shows where peole are and everything...i wish i had one....

[Tinuviel]

Chambers of Secrets creeped the hell out of me! I think the build-up of suspense was well paced and very tight. And the fact that there were parallels between Tom Riddle and Harry Potter, even though both were supposed to be mortal enemies, actually made me pause and think.

Amidst a backdrop of fantasy and children as main characters, there are many serious issues and themes that are reflected in the Harry Potter books.

ack, perhaps I'm reading too much into it..... :grin: plus, I'm a staunch member of the Harry Potter fandom

Prisoner of Azkhaban was my least favourite, though i find the scene where Sirius begs Harry to calm down and believe that he was not his enemy very very moving and powerful.:(

*tinuviel, off to post something on-topic this time *

[A! Elbereth]

uh...... I agree with it being satanic... ARGH! Dont hurt me! And dont get out the fish!!! ahhhhhhh...

[Catz]

*smiles* then dont make fish slappable comments.....no one here has said anything about satanic except you lol

Ahh i think i'll join you Tinuviel.....
:catz:

[A! Elbereth]

actually if you go a little farther back... CATZ.. you will see bonos-girl talking about something with that subject on hand... why dont you....take a look lol

[Lady Arien]

If you take a look, Elbereth , you'll see that she made reference to web site that makes the claim that Harry Potter is satanic, and that someone else claimed it was sprung from the mind of satan himself.....personally, I don't think he's smart enough....:read: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[A! Elbereth]

:oI take it that you dont thouroughly enjoy my company, Lady Arien. Please excuse me for saying so, but I want to ask you to try to be a little more kind. :( hearnoevil

I think you greatly misunderstood Arien. I want to make clear I wasnt accusing of 'claiming' that anyone had said it was satanic.

But to get back to the subject... has anybody heard about the other, i think, 4 movies they are making for Harry potter? I mean whoa

[Pil]

I think that the whole thing will probably fizzle out...harry potter's story line isn't strong enough to sustain all the hype...lotr, now WE shouldn't have a problem! I only hope the thickos out there don't get confused about how *gasp (sarcasticly)* there are TWO different stories going on....ooooo....

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaanyway...harry potter....hmmm... :embarras:

[Bonos-Girl]

i like the bit in prisoner... where they release the dragon so that it doesn't get killed (that is prisoner...right???)

[Sindarin]

My favorite book so far would have to be the Goblet of Fire.

[Bonos-Girl]

omg, i can't remember the story at all...no prizes for guessing what i'm gonna read tonight then...

[Pil]

The dragon is soooo cute! Hagrid's so sweet to love it so much! :dragon:

[Bonos-Girl]

wouldn'y you if you had a :dragon:

[Pil]

Well....as a welshy i am partial to the old :dragon: - only in red! :p

[legolaslover]

I really liked the books and I thought the movie was very close to it.

[Black Rider]

Oliver Wood is hotttt.

thats all my friends and i got out of that film.
oh, and something about a boy named potter...

[Tinwë]

Harry Potter is my second favorite movie ;) I've read the books around 3 times, and I've seen the movie countless times :king:

[Black Rider]

the books are cute. it took me 3 days to read all four of them, though :p

[Goldilocks]

Whew! Glad we finally strayed from that whole 'religion' issue.

I'm reading the books again, and no, am certain. Prisoner of Azkaban is favourite. Hate Dobby. Reminds me too much of Jar Jar Binx, the way he always refers to himself in 3rd person. Don't think anything can be more annoying. "Dobby don't want Harry Potter to get hurt."

Ugh.

Who's your favourite professor? I like McGonogall(doesn't look right, but can't be bothered to check) because she is so fair, but strict. Very good teacher. I also like Snape, simply because his seething anger is so hillarious to watch (in film as well as in head). I find people who get so angry about things that don't really matter completely hillarious. Not meaning anyone in particular.....other than Snape, of course. Yeah, right. Snape.

And lastly, Professor Lupin. I mean, can you feel any sorrier for the guy? He's so pittiful. You just gotta love him. :loveyou:

[Black Rider]

the actor who played snape is hot. well, not in that role, but in dogma he is hot

[Goldilocks]

Alan Rickman's not really my type. I did like him in Sense and Sensibility, though. Not to mention Galexy Quest. He's a great character actor, I think.

[Black Rider]

i agree

[Ringwraith]

Originally posted by Sindarin
Does anyone else enjoy it?

Personally, I liked reading the novels and thought the first film was excellent, and I am looking forward to seeing the second forthcoming movie later this year. :thumbs:

I watched it and I liked it, bu it's not the kind of movie I'll be able to watch 3 or 4 times.

[Nessa]

Originally posted by Black Rider
the actor who played snape is hot. well, not in that role, but in dogma he is hot

You think so too? I thought I was just strange!

Anyway.......... I enjoyed the books greatly, and the movie wasn't too bad... it stuck with the book quite a bit, but to me it just didn't have the same feel as the books. I've see the previews for the second one, though, and it looks pretty great.

[Goldilocks]

It does look good. Can't wait to see who's playing Voldemort. Ooh! Don't you think the guy who play's Wood is cute? Too young for me, but no harm in looking.

[Nessa]

Oliver Wood! That is the high point of the film for me. I think its the accent that does it.......

I think they even showed a young Voldemort in the preview, or at least we heard his voice. I'm rather looking forward to it, it will pass the time until Two Towers, anyway. ;) Don't much like the look of Dobby, though.

[Goldilocks]

HATE DOBBY! Couldn't STAND parts in books about stupid house elfs. They shame the beautiful word that is "Elves" Too bad they didn't all look like Legolas. Now THAT would've been interesting.....:naughty:

[Nessa]

lol

Then you would want them as servants to be sure....... :naughty:

I had no problem with the character of Dobby, I think he's pretty darling myself... I just don't like that cgi job they did on him...

[Goldilocks]

Well, I knew they would have to digitalize him, judging from the description in the books.

Have you heard when the next book is supposed to be coming out? Last I heard it was June 2003.mecry

[Nessa]

Well, I've already waited this long for it... I guess another YEAR won't hurt. :rolleyes:

Yeah, I figured Dobby would be digitilized, just didn't imagine it done that badly. :grin: But to be fair I only saw him for a moment.

[Goldilocks]

My brother has both the HP trailer and TTT trailer downloaded in his computer. I try to restrict myself to once a day to TTT trailer. Nummy....;)

Dobby does look slightly odd, I agree. Can you believe how much Daniel's voice has changed? As soon as I saw the preview I thought: "Well, someone's hit puberty."

[Nessa]

Thats what I thought during the preview! Harry and Ron's voices have gotten considerably deeper. It will be interesting to see how much they grow up during the course of the films (especially Wood, :naughty: ).

The man who directed the first two isn't directing the third, that makes me worry about uneven continuity and so on....

[Goldilocks]

I'm with you with Wood, girl!:naughty:

Yeah, I heard about Chris Columbus (What were his parents THINKING?!) not directing the third one. I did hear Kenneth Branagh has been offered to direct the "Prisoner..." which I think would be just as good. He is a talented directer.

Also heard that Ewen McGreggor was being considered as the role of "Professor Lupin" for "Prisoner..." as well. That'd be good too. I like Ewen...:naughty:

[Nessa]

MMMMMM....... Ewan.... you and me both!!!

He might do well as Lupin! (Keep the accent, keep the accent!) They need to find someone real good for Sirius, too. I always imagined him hot underneath the dirty. ;) Erm, talented, too!

I'm glad to hear Kenneth Branaugh is talented, Prisoner of Azkaban is my favorate and I'd like to see justice done to it.

[Arwen]

I'm very excited for the 2nd movie..I already bought the 1st and have read all the books multiple times! I agree that they better get someone good for Sirius and Lupin...Ewen isnt not exactly what I pictured in my head..but I'd give it a chance ;)

[Goldilocks]

I've just finished the third book again, and after Bridget Jones, I'm on to "Goblet of Fire" again. Who's your favourite characters? Mine's Fred and George. They always crack me up! "Bighead Boy"lol

[Nessa]

Ron! Along with Fred and George.... so darn funny! lol They were terribly underused in the movie, but Ron was good. He acted how I thought he should, even if he doesn't look how I imagined.

[Arwen]

Fav characters..hmmm...I love a lot of them...favs would prolly be Harry, Dumbledore, Sirius & Hermione though :)

[Goldilocks]

Roweling's been quoted that more characters are going to die in the upcoming books. Who do you think is doomed? My money's on Dumbledore, Cho Chang, and Sirius.

[Pil]

DUMBLEDORE?! But...that's like saying gandalf will die...and NOT return! ( :blush: ) Maybe the same thing will happen...he'll return as the voice inside the hat...or as another ghost for the school... lol

[Little Devil]

K, I think that Hagrid might die or someone like Ron, actually i hav no idea. My friend's sis is friends wiv the guy who plays Percy and she knows who dies apparently but wont say. grrrrrrrr....... :verymad:

[Daughter of Finarfin]

I think Snape will die saving Harry... no, seriously I have no idea and would rather not think about it. I want to be surprised.
I agree with anyone who said they like Alan Rickman. Did you see him in Dogma? He was hilarious! And no one could be more creept as the Sheriff of Nottingham than he was in Robin Hood Prince of Theives.

I really think that Harry might go evil before the end, but that is kind of predictable and Star Wars-esque so we'll see.

[Nessa]

I shall say it again. I adore Alan Rickman in Dogma. ;)

Regarding upcoming deaths..... if Sirius dies I am going to be quite upset. As far as the rest goes, I'd prefer not to think about it. I was shocked enough when......... never mind. :)

[Goldilocks]

No, if anyone is going to turn evil, I think it's Ron. In the last book, she always went on about how jealous he was of Harry. Harry and Ginny are totally meant to be, don't you think? His mother has red hair too.

[Pil]

OOOOOOOOK.....(the red hair thing) :huh: :o

I agree....ron will go evil and harry will be forced to kill him for the good of mankind....or mugglekind........you know what i mean! :)

[Goldilocks]

No, I don't think Harry will kill him. Ron will turn back at the last second, kind of a wizard's Star Wars thing.

[Galadriel]

I did like Harry Potter. I liked the books a lot. i have read them adn thought that it was a great story but a little childish. I think the LOTR books were better. I have seen the movie and thought it was great and can't wait for the next one to come out.

[Goldilocks]

You are not alone, Galadriel. I think everybody on this site would eagerly pay $500 to see TTT tomorrow. I sure as hell would.

As for Harry Potter, I'm more looking forward to the next book, rather than the film. Enjoy the films, but like the books better.

:)

[Black Rider]

hmm. i liked the movie better. i thought it was a better story for a film than a book. but i did like how they developped some of the characters more thoroughly in the books, that's always better about them

[Gowpon]

OH MY GOD!!!
Am I the only one that thinks Harry Potter isn't worth a penny compared to LOTR???? verymad verymad
The books are well done...but I JUST CAN'T STAND THE MOVIE!!!
I don't know what'S good about the movie! Well...this is my PERSONAL opinion ok? I think the movie is just...just for 3-year-old kids (because they don't know what a GOOD movie is! All they do is scream and clap when they see brooms flying around, or should i say---sweeping in the air!)pfbbt pfbbt

LOTR RULES!!!!! :brave: :brave:

[Goldilocks]

Well, yes, Gowpon, but c'mon, who's comparing the two? It'd be like comparing "To Kill A Mockingbird" with "The Mayor of Casterbridge." They're just two completely different genre.

[Gowpon]

Don't tell me that it's like comparing Aragorn and Legolas!!
No! I say don't!!!verymad verymad

......what the heck am i doing...making fun of myself...lol
Just don't want to talk about HP anymore...pfbbt

[Nessa]

Alright, then don't! ;)

I didn't like to Harry Potter movie much, either, but I enjoy the books. Of course they don't compare to Lotr, but its fun in its own right.

[Ringwraith]

Originally posted by Nessa
Alright, then don't! ;)

I didn't like to Harry Potter movie much, either, but I enjoy the books. Of course they don't compare to Lotr, but its fun in its own right.

Harry Potter is too childish.

[Goldilocks]

Know what you mean, Ringwraith. Definitely felt that they weren't geared towards people our age. Enjoyed them as fluff, but that's about it. I didn't get half as wound up as when I read the end of ROTK. Man, did I sob!

[istari]

I think Harry Potter was OK, but it didn't live up to the books.

[Pil]

I think i've lost most of my original interest in harry potter. i'll read the lastest book again before the next one comes out to keep up with things...but i don't see how it will keep going for seven books...what's he gonna do...get married? have kids? who's gonna read that?! :huh:

(p.s. THERE IS A ****** FLY THAT KEEPS LANDING ON THE SCREEN! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH! verymad verymad verymad)

I NEED THE RAID! :evil:

[Gowpon]

To be honest...I've forgot what's in the books!! HAHA! :wicked: :evil:
It's been such a looooong time and it turned out hard to remember what was in the books! :naughty:

[Eowyn]

I like the harry potter books but the movie was pathetic. I only read the books because I kept saying "oh its just a kids book" and my friends told me not to knock it till I'd read it. :blush:

anyway I enjoyed reading the books and would like to know how it all ends, but to be honest since reading lotr I found harry potter quite dull.

[Daughter of Finarfin]

I first read Harry Potter because I kept arguing with my little brother that Harry Potter was just a kid's book and could never even compare to LOTR. Well, I still hold that it doesn't compare to LOTR, but it is very entertaining and they are well written books IMO, especially Goblet of Fire. The movie was entertaining, but it wasn't nearly as good as the books.

[Pil]

I apoligise for the use of bad language in my previous post. sorry if i have offended anyone, i wasn't aware that that word was not allowed in the forum, sorry.

I agree daughter of finarfin. I think that the movie of harry potter did not do the books justice. I think that lotr was adapted into film in a more successful way. :huh: :read:

[Gowpon]

AGREE!:thumbs:
I think HP movie should be better! :cool:

[Sindarin]

Although I liked the H.P. film, the book was indeed better, :) even though I'm looking forward to the other H.P. movies. Yet LOTR is still the best!

I enjoyed reading the Potter novels, and am eagerly awaiting the next installments, yet the LOTR trilogy are way better books by comparison. :thumbs:

[Pil]

Hell yeah! :thumbs: ;)

Has anyone else seen the trailers for the next HP film? I love the bit when they turn around and the train is there...hehe! lol lol lol

I also liked the beginning when u see harry sitting with hedwig(correct me if i'm wrong) and it's all dark and he's looking out over the lake...i think... It reminded me of the whole "To bear a ring of power is to BE alone" from lotr. He knows he is something special...but it can be an isolated existance for him... mecry

[Sindarin]

Indeed, Pil. The new H.P. trailer for TCOS does look cool. :cool:

[Sindarin]

Yet there's so many LOTR references.

It's so obvious J.K. Rowling copied Tolkien in several aspects of H.P.

For one, look at Harry and Ron dueling a giant spider in The Chamber of Secrets!

And in the first film, they battled a giant troll.

Does anyone else see the connection? :evil:

[Goldilocks]

Right you are. Thought the troll in HP looked stupid, though. Very cartoonie.

There's also that whole thing about Voldemorte (aka Sauron, Lord of Darkness) wanting to regain strength and return to power. Hmmm.... Sounds familiar...

[Nessa]

You can basicly find similarities between all works of fantasy, I think.

And although there are obvious similarities, I think Harry Potter is quite an original work, and although I don't enjoy them nearly as much as Lotr, I do enjoy them. :)

[Eowyn]

I agree Nessa. LOTR is by far the better of the two but HP is original to some extent and is enjoyable enough to read. (If she ever finishs the darn things!)

[Goldilocks]

Yeah Eowyn! How long have we been waiting for the last book?! Forever! Hype, is all it is. . .I'll still buy it the first day it comes out, though.:stomper:

[Eowyn]

me too!

[Daughter of Finarfin]

I like the trailer, except Dobby the houase elf freaks me out. I am not easily scared but there is just something very creepy about him. He almost... dare I say it? reminds me of Gollum (although Gollum of course is much better!) I hope he's not in too much of the movie. (Dobby, not Gollum).

[Goldilocks]

Here Here, Daughter! I hate Dobby even in the books! Creepy little beings, running around, chasing after socks, always talking in 3rd person! Eeek!

Now, as I have posted before, Roweling should have taken another thing from Tolkien and made all the house elves look like Legolas! K, I think we should have a drool smilie...

[Gowpon]

Sorry to say that...but...when was the last time the book came out?
It's been such a looong looong time that I don't even remember what was in the second book...:naughty:
And sad to say that when I saw the movie trailer, I know I am NOT going to watch it! HAHA! lol
Can't help it! Just don't get that "can't miss a second" feeling...I got that feeling when I watched TTT's trailer...

Guys, this is personally ok? :p

[Eowyn]

I'm not sure I'll bother to go see it! might go see TTT twice instead! better value for money! :grin:

[Elf angel]

Sorry people, i didn't enjoy the movie. My brother's even worse,he slept half way through the movie & SNORED...he's 14.lol
:grin:

[Eowyn]

I've seen a picture of Dobby now and he doesn't look right! I think he should be smaller. plus what is with the fighting thing (i know its from the dueling club but they've gone crazy) :huh:

[Little Devil]

Dobby's sooooo weird and ugly. He makes me sick! (uh I need a sick icon.)

[Eowyn]

ha ha ha! creepy dobby yuck!

[Tar-Ancalimë]

I detest house elves with all my heart too. In books and movie.
Now the thing about Tolkein elves in HP... I think it would improve the books by a factor of a hundred. At least.
And I hate the movie, but... dare I say it?... I'm going to!... the books were better than Tolkein's LOTR.


Ah! Heresy, I know I know!
Don't shoot!!!!
I take it back!! well, not really, but you know what I mean.


I luv the movie though! with all my heart!

[Ronin]

do u really like the HP books better than LOTR? :elfeek: ;)

[Tar-Ancalimë]

*looks ashamed*

i have to admit it... the lotr books are better but... i prefer reading HP... aw dont kill me guys

[Ronin]

lol...no, i completely understand. love LOTR for all that it gives u....yet dig the HP books because they're quick, easy, and fun to read?
believe, have a ton of books that fall into both categories...sometimes...just gotta have a page turner! ;)

[Ronin]

not that LOTR isn't....for me at least :rolleyes: ;)

[Tar-Ancalimë]

heh well, i grew up on Tolkien, and it's kind of like, well, there's only so many times you can reread one book!

whereas HP is stil... novel ;)

[Ronin]

lol....really, there's a limit on how many times i can read LOTR? man....wish i had known that ;) :grin:

[Tar-Ancalimë]

maybe not for you *shrugs* but when i read it nowdays i fall asleep or daydream because i could just as well read it in my head without the book in front of me.... well... not quite ;)

in another month or so ill reread it, but now im not at that point.

[Little Devil]

It works like that, if you've read a book so often that you pratically know it by heart it takes a couple of months before you wanna read it again. :read:

[Ronin]

'tis very true, almost have to wait till u forget certain things....and discover them once again, reclaim that excitement.

[Akiba]

exactly so far I haven't gotten tired of reading the HP books over and over again and sometimes I get confused as to what happens in what book so it's never like I know exactly what's gonna happen next I I forget how he escapes from his house for each book it's kinda weird

[Cuiel Rilwen]

I have a tendency to skimread a book the first time I read it, so if its good I read as many times as I feel necessary; like LotR is so full of details that I read it 4-5 times before I felt I had really read it. Or I read it again simply when I need to be in the story again! Some books are for relaxing, and some books are for putting your mind at use. At some extent I find both equally useful.

[Ronin]

quite...can't really say much as it almost describes me to a T :grin:

[Evenstar]

the next time any of you watch the Philosopher's Stone, turn the volume up at the end when Harry comes out of the medical place and the screen cuts to Ron and Hermione on the stairs. I haven't actually heard this myself as I don't have a copy of the film but all my friends told me you can hear Ron muttering something. Listen carefully to what it is. If it's true then... that's just WRONG. :elfeek:

[Onilalle]

Hehehe- really? I'll do that!
Anyways... i want to know what people think of Michael Gambon as the new Dumbledore! I'm seeing the film soon... has anyone seen the Prisoner of Azkaban that knows what Gambon is like in it? I'd love to know!

~Oni~

[Miriel Baggins]

I haven't seen it yet. (It's coming out Friday where I live.) But I downloaded a few clips from the movie, and it looks like he'll be good. Apparently he was very eager to play the part, which I see as a good sign, and he said that he was not going to try and play the role just like Richard Harris did. That may sound bad at first, but it shows that he's given the role a good deal of thought himself, and so maybe he can bring even more into it than Richard Harris. Doubtful, but . . . one must always hope. ;)

I'm really disappointed about the guy who's playing Lupin. I have this thing for Lupin (okay, okay, I'm madly in love with him), and this guy is just . . . not right. I wanted Steven McKintosh in the role. But, oh well. It looks like David Thewlis will act it all right.

[Pil]

well i saw the new film today and i must say that i was completely blown away, i loved it! :p

there were some things i didnt like....for example the dementors (which i know is contrary to most people's opinion) and peter pettigrew (what the......rat man??? :o :rolleyes: ) but yeah a very much more pleasing film...harry potter is FINALLY scruffy and toughening up....everything was much more scary and gothick....brilliantly done! :)

[Onilalle]

I saw the film. My gosh it was brilliant. ok, first of all i gotta say, David Thewlis was brilliant as Lupin. Gary Oldman was fantastic as Sirius, too, and of course Professor Trelawney was played amazingly by Emma Thomson! My lord she was wacky... anyway, did anyone think the bit when Harry was crying mecry was a little badly done? I mean when his cloak came off I thought, "his eyes aren't even watery or anything!!!" all the same, it was great.
but i gotta say Michael Gambon didn't do poor Richard Harris any justice. he just wasn't DUMBLEDORE like Richard was. I was a little dissapointed about that; :( Gambon made Dumbledore seem a bit harsh and distant... maybe it's me. that's how it seemed.

[Silverbridge]

Yes, I saw it Friday and really enjoyed it. I thought that crying scene was lame, I was waiting to see some tears....I wonder what that was about? Other than that, it was a better film than the rest. I think we're going back today to see it (my husband was too sick to go and....I just had to see it anyway...heh heh..so we'll go see it again, my kids loved it!)

I enjoyed Michael Gambon's Dumbledore....and I liked that they didn't have swelling music all of the time. I hope the same director directs the next movie.

[Tirithel]

Really? About Dumbledore I mean? I liked the first guy better; I like the idea of Dumbledore as kind of this old crackpot who's really brilliant underneath. The new guy takes the character too seriously. And I've gotta agree with Pil about Peter Pettigrew...I always pictured him kinda looking like the little bald guy from 'The Princess Bride'...you know, the "INCONCIEVABLE!" guy. lol But of course more scraping and begging type. On that they did a good job with his character.

What I really dug was the way it ended, *SPOILER COMING UP...STOP READING*






with the Firebolt and the Hippogriff feather. The look on Daniel Radcliffe's face in the last shot is priceless.

[Frodo101]

I really loved the books. I thought the third one was the best movie so far! But how one earth are they goin to do the 4th? Its really big and alot happens. i hope its good.

[Pil]

im not all clued up on this, but i think i heard somewhere that daniel radcliff and the gang aren't gonna be in the 4th one???? anyone else heard this? i mean, it does kinda make sense...rupert grint IS 16 for god sake lol

i prefered the voice and presence of the first dumbledore...this one seemed a bit too 'wacky out there wizard dude' to me....i dunno if it's just me being random :p

[Mirkgirl]

I read that Radcliffe said that "The audience would not accept anyone else but me playing HP" Gotta love the nerve. He is the little wizard alright heh

[Mánalinya]

Yeah, the trio is already signed on for the fourth movie for sure, but after that, who knows? Personally, I hope they can stay for all the movies. It just wouldn't be the same without them. I mean, with a new Dumbledore, and then getting a new Harry, Ron, and Hermione...it would be like a completely different story!

I did like Richard Harris better as Dumbledore. He seemed more...down to earth. And the new Dumbledore didn't seem to have the same twinkle in his eye. I don't know...I just liked the old one the best. Not to say that Michael Gambon did not do a good job, cuz he did. But it's just hard to top up such an incredible job from Richard.

Anyway, I really liked this film. The special effects were stunning (the dementors were awsome!), and the acting....wow! Much better!
I can't believe how much the characters have grown up. I mean, I've seen pictures of Dan, Rupert, and Emma, but I never expected Neville to look so different. I mean, I hardly recognized him! And Fred and George, too (though the red hair tipped me off, hehe)! It was nice to see more of them; they're hillarious!

There were a few things I was disappointed in, such as the fact that they left out scenes/lines that I really wanted to see/hear (too bad they're not making an extended edition, hey? hehe), they changed a very important part (the words of Trelawny's prophecy: I am a firm believer that J.K. Rowling chose every word of the prophecies with great care, and so to change them....no, that's not good. But oh well), and the movie felt rather rushed (well, the first half is fine, it's mainly once we get to the Shrieking Shack).

But, other than that, I really enjoyed it (though Dementors don't fly!). I can't wait to see it again: I'm sure there's a lot of stuff I missed the first time!

[Silverbridge]

The first Dumbledore was fine...though his voice made im sound slow and ancient, I never really dug his voice. The new Dumbledore has is subtle and fresh, though the bows in the beard are a little trippy. To have such a change is hard for a series...but I'm happy with this Dumbledore and he wasn't really in it alot, that foes for McGonagell too (spelling?) I love Emma Thompson, but I thought the hairdo was a bit much....I always pictured Trelawny with a bun in her hair with strands coming down.....whatever.

[Miriel Baggins]

First off: I loved this movie! I think it was much better done than the other two. The younger actors have finally grown into their roles --- still not the most talented of actors (except Tom Felton: he's got the gift :grin: ), but they're getting so much better, imo. Fred and George were actually funny in this one! I thought they were really, really good. Finally. :rolleyes: lol

I have to say I did like Richard Harris as Dumbledore. Simply because he pretty much was Dumbledore. Almost all of his characters in all his more recent movies were Dumbledore-ish characters. But I didn't think he had enough of the wacky edge that the Dumbledore of the books had. Michael Gambon has discovered that and brought it to screen. And I enjoyed that aspect of his acting. I thought he was very good.

Didn't like Lupin. At all. Sirius was okay . . . . They were both too old, though. Along with Pettigrew and Snape. I mean, in the wizarding world, people graduate from school at seventeen, which would be the equivalent of 'normal' people graduating from college. So, it would make sense that they'd get married around 18, 19, or 20-ish. And Harry's parents were getting serious with each other around 17. So even if they waited three years to get married (at 20) and had Harry, say, two years later (at 22), the oldest that their friends (who were their age) could be thirteen years later is 35. Whereas, in the movie, Sirius and Lupin are closer to 45, and Pettigrew looks about 50 (hard to tell though --- he's more rat than man), and then Snape . . . well, Snape looks as if he's been dead for the past couple of years. :p So, yeah, all that to say that they were a little older than I would've liked.

All around great movie, though! :thumbs:

[Silverbridge]

So, it would make sense that they'd get married around 18, 19, or 20-ish. And Harry's parents were getting serious with each other around 17. So even if they waited three years to get married (at 20) and had Harry, say, two years later (at 22), the oldest that their friends (who were their age) could be thirteen years later is 35. Whereas, in the movie, Sirius and Lupin are closer to 45, and Pettigrew looks about 50

LOL! Whoa! Way to much thought Miriel, you're k*llin' me! LOL! Though, you're right of course, that's way I'm still laughing!

[Mirkgirl]

Why just 2 years later... they might have enjoyed the nice peaceful and quiet babyless life longer (:

Other than that... Sirius has spent years in Azkaban, Lupin has been worried what he's doing when he's wolf all his life and drinking nasty potions, Pettigrew was cowering in a rat 12 years. Every year of stress like this is writen twice if not thrice. If you read the description of Lupin in the train - "young but ill and exhausted" or something in these lines.

[Miriel Baggins]

Yeah, he was ill and exhausted-looking, but still young, and they could tell he was young by just a glance at him. And, okay, in the movie, the guy was nothing close to young, imho. :p And I can't see Sirius ever recovering to look younger and handsomer --- not happening. :rolleyes:

And you're absolutely right, James and Lilly may have waited a long time to have Harry, but I didn't get that impression in the book. Annnnd, that would make their friends older, whereas it expressly says in the books that they're young. Anyways, I really liked Sirius in the movie after I saw him acting for a while, so I don't hate them or anything. Just think they're a *little* old. :grin:

Did anyone here like the fact that the Dementors could fly? I thought it was pretty cool . . . .

[Cuiel Rilwen]

WOA...this movie is SOOOOO cool!!!! What a change from switching directors....fabulous! I was so worried that it might feel equally stuffed as CoS, but they'd shaved off the stuff that may have made me feel that way, and managed to hint at some things they couldn't have in. Still the movie tells me appr. the same story as the book.

And Harry is FINALLY becomming the angry little, fun-loving scruffed kid he is in the books...I was so fed up when I watched the deleted scenes from CoS where they'd taken out any sign of anger and despair on his behalf...this was like OI he's got a temper afterall! lol The kids are given soo much more space to act and are doing such a good job of it...I love how this film deals more with emotion than with detail! Never thought I would say I'm happy they cut stuff but this is a great movie! Think I'll have to go see it one more time!

I almost wet myself when aunt Marge got inflated and went out the window...Dan was looking sooo malicious! Almost had a possessed look! And Snape in womansclothes...HAHAHAHAHA!!! What a treat! My daughter and her friend,(both 11), thought the time travel very confusing but they were also overjoyed by it! All the new adult actors were splendid, they still do the best castingjobs! The crying scene was not good but thats all I can put my finger on right now. :)

[Onilalle]

Hey I found out about the official and DECIDED casting situation in HP 4 !!!! i saw it on a very reliable newsround site! look on google.com- images for these guys:
Clemence Poesy- Fleur Delacour
Robert Pattinson- Cedric Diggory
Frances de la tour- Madame Maxime
Brendan Gleeson- Mad eye Moody
Katie Leung- Cho Chang
Brilliant! :grin:

[Onilalle]

Oh and also (sorry about this)
Viktor Krum is being played by Bulgarian actor Stanislav Yanevski.

[Mirkgirl]

*Mirky cheers*

[Periantari Andruil]

I saw the 3rd movie again tonight for the second time and really enjoyed it... i didn't really enjoy it the first time because i had my expections way too high (even though i was rather dissapointed with the Chamber of Secrets..) but the second time, i enjoyed it for what Cuaron(sp?) did choose to include and really really REALLY REALLY REALLY enjoyed the acting by Radcliffe and Watson and Rupert :grin: (esp. Radcliffe ;) ... though he can't cry :p )
but yeah... wow i really can't wait till HP4 and i want to reread the Prisoner of Azkaban again =) :grin: =)

EXPECTO PATRONUS!!! :p =)

[Eowyn]

Jeff Rawle .... Amos Diggory
David Tennant .... Barty Crouch Jr.
Roger Lloyd-Pack .... Barty Crouch

ok for any brits who used to watch 'Only Fools and Horses' Crouch Snr is Trigger! :o I'm just going to laugh

also interesting news - extended version of the first film?
http://www.wizardnews.com/story.200406111.html
still no sign of Voldie... sorry the dark lord ;)

[Onilalle]

JEFF RAWLE????!!!
lol

[ImDaMom]

I don't know about any of you, but I've seen several clips from the new HP...Is it me, or do the scenes look A LOT like ROTK?????

[Bregalad]

The Dementors in the trailer for HP3 and the circumstances in which they appeared (think fingers creeping round a doorway) had a startling resemblance to the Ringwraiths in LotR, but otherwise no, not really IMO...

[Cuiel Rilwen]

That's what I thought too...but when I saw the entire movie I didn't think it resembled THAT much to LotR...only the robes of the dementors really.

[Onilalle]

I didn't think the dementors looked like the ringwraiths. They might have had some sort of resemblance (as in the black robes), but that was about it! They were totally different if you ask me. The Dementors have icky slimy fingers, while the Nazgul have armoured ones... the Nazgul can walk, dementors can't... the head shapes were different, etc... Ah well. Made me point. ;)

[Bregalad]

I was referring to the icky, slimy fingers creeping round the railway compartment door in the trailer of HP3... kind of reminded me of the Ringwraiths when they went into the inn at Bree and "killed" Frodo and the other hobbits. There was this moment when one of the wraiths stuck its hand around the door in a shot very similar to the one in the HP3 trailer. But otherwise, the Dementors do not much resemble the wraiths (thank goodness!!!)

[Lady of the Rings]

Yeh, the robes of the Dementors were similar to the ringwraiths, but the shape was very different. At times throughout the movie, when their was light behind the dementor, you could see a kind of skeleton figure underneath.

After the movie when I was talking about it, I kept calling them ringwraiths accidently :blush: lol

[Eowyn]

oh dear... and they tried so hard not to make them look like ringwraiths! lol

I did enjoy the film though... much better than the previous two and creepier why must Mike Newell direct GoF he's never done anything creepy mecry

[Miriel Baggins]

lol Ringwraiths and Dementors, my, my. I expected the Dementors to sorta look like leftover Ringwraiths, so I was pleasantly surprised to see that they took on a life of their own. I think I heard once that the reason they had the Dementors flying in the movie (which I thought was cool) was so that they would be less like the black riders. Anyone know if that's true?

And, btw, Eowyn, congrats on being MoM!!! Enjoy it, it's so well deserved. :smooch: lol

[Lidless Eye]

Well I read the first book and I couldnt stand it. Then I watched the movies and they were a little better. So I wasnt to impressed. Then I saw the third one and was like wow this is pretty good. So I think that the 3rd movie was so much better that the first 2. I think maybe it had a better director. But I dont know what it was but I was pretty impressed. Even though I can diffinatly see things that look alot like LotR. *Cough dementors cough nazgul cough* lol

[Miriel Baggins]

Even though I can diffinatly see things that look alot like LotR. *Cough dementors cough nazgul cough* Welllllll, at least they weren't exactly the same as Nazgul. Close, but not . . . exact. :)

If you think about it, though, authors are really just people who take old ideas and find a new shape to bend them into. Granted, Dementors weren't bent too far out of the Nazgul shape, but Rowling did take the idea to another level. Tolkien himself stole ideas directly out of Beowulf and stuff like that.

[Eowyn]

Thanks Miriel :grin:

I think they struggled to make obvious differences between the two. They tried and managed reasonably well but I remember thinking that wasn't how I pictured them.... I also remember thinking OMG get that things mouth away from me! they managed that much so I say well done lol

[Onilalle]

Yeah, I think the Dementors were brilliantly done! I always used to picture them as things that had legs, possibly... (silly me lol) and were a lot taller... but yes the film ones were better ;)
Anyway, I hope Mike Newell makes the GoF a good one. If it doesn't have at least SOME creepy bits in it then I think I'll be very dissapointed :(

[Miriel Baggins]

I'm really looking forward to the 4th movie (already, I know: sad, isn't it?). I'm reading the book again and I can't wait to see how they bring it to life on screen. What a lot of information they have to pack into one movie! :o

[Eowyn]

The only bit I'm worried about is the flesh, blood and bones chapter (i think thats what it's called) that and the following chapters. I think they'll give it a cheesy happy ending like they did for CoS.

I'm also worried because the bit where Voldemort comes back terrifies me. If I put myself in Harry's position those final chapters are horrible.

I'm worried they won't cast a good enough Voldemort and that they'll try and make it less scary. I'm also worried because Radcliffe can't act scared... or angry... or upset... he can do confused :) lol

[Onilalle]

Gosh, I am terrified too, Eowyn! :o I wonder how they'll bring Voldemort to life? Plus, I agree Radcliffe can't act those ways. ESPECIALLY not upset! Did you see in HP3 where he was 'crying' but when he was revealed from the cloak, his face was unblemished and he was just cringing!! lol That was lame, but the rest was good. ;)
BTW I hope they give the GoF a reasonably emotional ending, cos Cedric Diggory DOES die, doesn't he? So it can't be a happy-clappy ending!

[Eowyn]

They didn't even give him a tear stick... least they could have done was poked him just before so he cried properly.

oh and Diggory will die, they can't change it that much I just think they'll get back to Hogwarts and it'll end with Gryffindor winning the house cup and probably hugging Hagrid again! :angry:

oh and I posted this link on the HP book thread so I thought I should post it here too. If anybodies interested it's a HProle play forum I'm helping to set up. You register and then pick a character and PM the admin to ask to be that one. There's a list in the Noticeboard section.
http://secretalley.proboards30.com/
It should be better once it's up and runing properly but if you wanna join and have a laugh the more the merrier ;)

btw if you want to PM me on there I'm Bellatrix Lestrange :evil: I couldn't resist it'll be so much fun!

[Onilalle]

Hey, I'll take note of that! :thumbs: I may join if I have time. That would be so fun!! :grin:
BTW... flipping heck, I do hope they DON'T end up with the house cup for Gryffindor and a big old Hagrid hug again... pfbbt Boring...

[Eowyn]

See nobody wants that but they'll prpbably do it because Mike Newell is the director and he'll class it as a kids film and must therefore have a cheesey ending. I cringed so much when Harry hugged Hagrid at the end of CoS I was literally sat in my seat willing him not to do it. grrrr! No wonder Draco teases him lol ok I'm done... oh and Yeay come and join us Oni... you don't need to go on that often... just out of interest who would you chose to be?

[Onilalle]

Hmmm... I don't know... which positions are there left?

[Eowyn]

anybody except Dumbledore, Voldemort, Bella, Draco, Mr Ollivander, Lily, Luna and Ginny & Arthur Weasley. There's a list on the noticeboard of Secret Alley with all available characters. I spent quite a while helping list them lol

[Onilalle]

I'd be Hermione probably. lol Sounds fun, could join as soon as I get my Dad's permission :grin:

[Eowyn]

yippee! ok I shall look out for you ;)

[Eowyn]

ok sorry for the double post but it's been a while.

Well, it's official The Dark Lord has been cast, and the task falls to Ralph Fiennes.... not who I would pick but we shall see... he definately doesn't have the right voice but he's convincingly evil so we shall have to see. :huh:
for more info follow the link,
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000146/

Can't remember if it's been mentioned here but Miranda Richardson (Queenie in Blackadder) has been cast as Rita Skeeter. I think she'll do a good job :thumbs:

[Feebeefi]

I can imagine Ralph Fiennes as Voldemort(or how I see him anyway)

I hope Radcliffe can pull it off. When he was "crying" it sounded more loike he was laighing imo

[Mirkgirl]

Ugh he deff looks shapeless ;)

Miranda Richardson usually does good roles of overreacting females.... must be good cast really

btw I'm planning to see the third potter tomorrow, I'll let you know how I liked it

[Eowyn]

yeah! Hope you enjoy it Mirky!

and Richardson will do well. Ralph fiennes... well we'll see but I wanted Richard O'Brien as voldie :huh: oh well!

[Mirkgirl]

I did...tho in the beginning it started a bit boring... it went better tho :)
The emotions stuff didn't bug me really... looked okay compared to his normal expression... I mean what can you expect. It was pretty good actually, if he turned to super crying and upset out of the blue the contrast would be too much really.
The dementors were a joke. I see they tried to make it different from the Nazgul, but honestly they weren't scary, the flying bit was too much too. The sucking was too... physical too. Not to mention the freezing... you just can't FEEL the fear... least I couldnt
the scene witht he quiddich match looked like a dream... dunno why
the hysterical bit with Sirius was a bit strange... fake looking... and as a whole he looked way too controlled...
Lupin wasn't at all how I imagined him, but did decent job
somehow the scene by the lake went too cheesy... maybe Hermione was supposed to be there after all ;)
But as a whole I enjoyed it quite much.... not regretting having seen it, not going to see it again tho

[Fëalossë]

I don't understand why people think Radcliffe did such a bad job of acting like he was crying. No teenage boy wants to show emotion in front of his friends, so he wouldn't be bawling his eyes out because he'd be trying to stifle his tears. I think he did quite a good job on that scene. (Although I can't say that for all of his acting. lol)

[Eowyn]

true but he didn't come across as if he was trying to hide it. He looked like he was trying to hard to cry and the switch to him being angry
*Eowyn buries her head in her hands trying to get rid of the memory*

[Miriel Baggins]

Yeah, I think Eowyn hit the nail on the head. It wasn't like he was feeling conscientous. Cuz, I mean, he just explodes into an extremely emotional ... explosion (:grin: ) right when Hermione and Ron turn up. No tears on his face that he tried to wipe away, and so forth. I find that scene a bit annoying, really. :rolleyes: But I think he's getting better at his acting as the movies progress. (Maybe it's denial. lol)

[Mirkgirl]

mmm q from the silly corner.... why does he have to cry to be emotional really? He was more angry than sad imo in that scene specially

[Eowyn]

he doesn't have to cry the point is dan was trying to act as though he was crying and sobbing but he just looked daft. He has improved but he's never going to pull off the role in the later books unless he learns how to act those two emotions

[Eriu]

Personally, I was not very impressed with this 3rd HP film. I love the books, they are brilliant and makes me wish I had come up with the idea LOL. A writer runs out of original ideas these days. ::Sigh sigh:: Anyway, I thought the movie was too...choppy and not consistant with the book. Didn't even feel right. I sorrow at the loss of Richard Harris :( but everything else just seemed...too quick changing. I only saw it once back in June, and waiting for the dollar theatre to have it in, then maybe I'll pay to see it again. Truly I didnt' care for it. I hope Goblet of Fire will be better. As for the acting, erm, everyone seemed stiffer in their acting. The whole movie gave off a strange feeling though so. I can tell it's a different director. Wonder if Rowling is not sleeping good now? lol I know I wouldn't if I were here. So, love the book, dislike the movie, but like it only because it is a fantasy movie.....May the Sun Shine On Your Paths Under the Sky....

[Eowyn]

but didn't you think it was an improvement on the first two?

[Lady of the Rings]

I didn't really enjoy the third movie either. Like Eriu said, HP3, for me, had a strange feeling to it. :huh: Possibly it was just because I knew it was a different director and was worried about the changes, but I felt like everything was wrong, especially the location of certain places around Hogwarts E.g. Hagrid's Hut, Whomping Willow. Don't get me wrong, I thought the movie was still pretty good and the acting has got considerably better, but IMO Alfonso changed too much.
but didn't you think it was an improvement on the first two?
Actually I really liked the first two, the second more so. :thumbs: I felt like they stayed more true to the books than the third film.

[Mirkgirl]

well the first and the second were more true to the books because they were shorter books.. you'll need 2 movies to get most of the 3rd on screen and at least 3 for the 5th for example.

[Eowyn]

true mirky now how many do you think they'd need for the 4th? :rolleyes: lol

I preferred the third film because I preferred the way it was done and the acting had improved but I liked the second film... I haven't seen the first one for a while though but I never liked it when I first watched it :huh:

[Mirkgirl]

2 should suffice :p

The first one was amuzing, the second one was kind of dull, dunno why... actually what I didn't like in the 3rd was the Dursley's part... somehow looked too much, the first two managed that better...

[Miriel Baggins]

The first one was amuzing, the second one was kind of dull, dunno why... actually what I didn't like in the 3rd was the Dursley's part... somehow looked too much, the first two managed that better... Yeah, I agree. I loved the first one when I first saw it --- it was entertaining, and, as I hadn't read the books, introduced me to a fascinating new world. The second one .... I dunno, the acting went down a couple of notches (except for Hermione's crying scene, which I thought was very nicely acted by Emma Watson) and it was just boring. And the third is my favorite so far. Like Eowyn said, I liked "the way it was done and the acting had improved." Finally. :grin:

[Eowyn]

I'm still hoping the actor will improve further of course.
Mirky how could you find the second one dull? It had Lucius and TMR in it! both looking gorgeous! Although I did watch it with Aranel and I think we laughed most of the way thorugh it... although I can't remember why now...

[Mirkgirl]

'scuse my ignorance... whats TMR?

Well it just didnt have a nice feeling to it... dunno I havent seen it lately I should find it watch it again and give you more detailed opinion

[Lady of the Rings]

well the first and the second were more true to the books because they were shorter books

I agree, but I can't understand the location changes of places around Hogwarts? :huh: Btw, TMR is Tom Marvolo Riddle (Voldemort)
lol @ Eowyn. Yes, Lucius is gorgeous! ;)

[Eowyn]

I'm not sure why they changed the location but I like the change. It felt more magical to me.

Lady of the Rings, you have good taste in men ;) lol

[The Scottish Elf]

I by far prefer the third movie to the first two. The first two were most definately children's films and, although the books are for children too, the books appeal to both adults and children more. The third brought in a much better element which got back some of that feeling, and I thought it was much more adult and effective. I wasn't sure on how they did the dementors - they don't fly in the book! Maybe it wouldn't have worked on film otherwise but I don't know. What does everyone else think?

Does anyone know what the seventh book is going to be called? The sixth one is Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince (great title - looking forward to it so much!), but I'm not sure about the seventh.

And yes, Lucius is very nice, but (sorry!) I think TMR could have been better. Looking forward to seeing more of Lucius in the next films though ;)

[Miriel Baggins]

I wasn't sure on how they did the dementors - they don't fly in the book! Maybe it wouldn't have worked on film otherwise but I don't know. What does everyone else think? My theory was simply that, if their Dementor's were to walk --- or, glide --- as they did in the book, they would look way too much like Black Riders. And, seeing as LR is really huge right now...that wouldn't be good. It would look like they copied, or something. I was very pleased with the way they did the Dementors, and I thought they took on as much life of their own as they possibly could, without looking too much like Black Rider leftovers. lol

And yes, Lucius is very nice, but (sorry!) I think TMR could have been better. (Promised myself I would not start discussing this, but oh well. :grin: ) :o I think he was looking lovely. Both of them. And, in the third one, Draco wasn't looking bad . . . . ;)

[Eowyn]

ok I'm not allowed to comment on Draco because he's too young but Lucius and TMR :drool:

[The Scottish Elf]

Ok, Draco doesn't look too bad in the third film, but he looks sooo much better in the first two. The reason for this - and it is deliberate - is that people began to fancy Malfoy, and want him and Hermione to get together! lol Malfoy's supposed to be really evil, and girls fancy Tom Felton and not Malfoy, so they tried to make him look worse in the third film.

Tom Felton is about 17, I think (at least), which isn't too old for me lol !! (Now...how to find somewhere to meet him...)

[Mirkgirl]

Really Lucious has more of that bad-take-me-bed charm than his son... but that might be age... both their and mine ;)

However they both are showed whiny enough (end of second movie for Lucious and the Hermy hitting Malfloy in the 3rd) to be liked.

[Little Devil]

Who else thinks that Hermione has way too much to do in the film? Or is it just me who finds her irritating? I like her very much in the book but in the film she's just so in-your-face.:hmppf:

[The Scottish Elf]

in the books, you see alot more or just Ron and Harry (or even just Harry), but generally, most of the parts with her need to be shown as part of the story, so the ratio becomes unbalanced.

I read a really good interview with JK Rowling recently, and at one point, she started asking why all the girls liked the bad guys and not Ron and Harry lol !!! Harry's okay, I guess, but not next to Tom Felton :grin:. She also said the two questions you should concentrate on trying to answer are:
1. “Why didn’t Voldemort die?” (Not, “Why did Harry live?”)
2. "Why Dumbledore did not kill or try to kill Voldemort in the scene in the ministry?"
Anyone got any ideas?

If anyone wants to read it, by the way, it's here (http://movies.monstersandcritics.com/news/article_857.php). Its really good, and explains further the questions above slightly, making it easier to talk about :grin:

[Miriel Baggins]

roflmao Nice piece of advice from Rowling at the end there. lol Great interview, thanks for posting, The Scottish Elf! (How should I abbreviate your name? :huh: )

Well, I've always wondered why Dumbledore didn't just kill Voldemort, probably just because I'm not exactly subtle, and my first reaction to such situations are simply: "KILL HIM!" Kill the bad guy: problems solved. So, needless to say, I wasn't exactly asking the question in a deep-thinking, profound sort of way; more just an exasperated plea. :grin:

Interesting. I've never thought to question Voldie's methods of keeping himself alive. Hmmmm.....I haven't got a clue. If it's a bunch of spells and stuff, it's not like we could guess. I don't think either of these questions are guessable --- didn't J.K. say something to that effect? But they're interesting to think about. And come up with stupid ideas about. lol (Stupid if I come up with them, at least. ;))

[The Scottish Elf]

I always presumed Dumbledore knew that he couldn't kill Voldemort, and the curse may rebound on him, just like it did on Voldemort the night he tried to kill Harry, because of the prophecy. It talks of "the one who has the power to defeat the Dark Lord" (or something along those lines) - as if the only one with the power to kill him, therefore not including Dumbledore. Of course, this could just mean one of the ones, and JKR wants us to look for something else, but I don't think so - this just makes sense.

I know - regards to the second question, if it was some kind of complicated spell that hadn't been previously mentioned, we'd never be able guess it, so why would JKR be prompting? I keep thinking about book two, (as its related to book 6) and how he used the diary. Maybe because he split himself up somehow, with some of himself somewhere else, you couldn't actually kill him until you killed both parts, just severly weakened. (I would talk more, but I don't have much time at the moment!)

And also, who do you think is the Half-Blooded Prince? JKR said it's not Harry or Voldemort, so I'm frantically searching my brain for other possiblities. Of course it could be a completely new character, but what about...Nevile, Dumbledore or Krum??? Interesting thought.

(I don't really mind what you call me...elf, scot, thingy! etc. Úceniel is my real name in one of the elvish languages I think :( :huh: )

[Miriel Baggins]

OK, you're making me feel dumb, here. :p I guess I'm not exactly an intuitive guesser, shall we say. In other words, I usually need things spelled out for me. :rolleyes: lol

But, anyways, those are some interesting thoughts. I think you may be right about Dumbledore. I think the prophecy said that one of them had to kill the other. But maybe not...I can't remember it, and I don't feel like going for the book. That's a good thought, though it seems like maybe it would be more complicated than that. I have no idea.

Maybe because he split himself up somehow, with some of himself somewhere else, you couldn't actually kill him until you killed both parts, just severly weakened. Hmmm, nice thought. So now it would be possible to just kill him off, then? If that idea is correct, I mean. Because his diary self is "dead," now. I wonder......

And also, who do you think is the Half-Blooded Prince? JKR said it's not Harry or Voldemort She did?! Bummer. When I first heard that's what the next book was to be called, I was like: "Well, obviously, that's Voldemort!" :duh: Oh well. My sister's immediate reation was that it was Dumbledore. Is he half-blooded? Well, it would be interesting to know his background. I'd heard a rumor that he wasn't fully human, either. :o ;) Well, this old brain of mine isn't helping much. If it were up to me, I'd just sit around and wait for the book, frankly. lol

[Eowyn]

OK I doubt we've met the HBP but I still think the term sounds odd. Somehow it sounds mocking to me. Similar to the 'weasley is our king' comments.

as for all these dicussions shouldn't they be in the books forum, where people would expect spoilers. Some people reading this thread might not have read the books. :huh: Just a though.

Miriel, I agree with the comment about the prophecy :)

[Miriel Baggins]

as for all these dicussions shouldn't they be in the books forum, where people would expect spoilers. Some people reading this thread might not have read the books. :huh: Just a though. Well, it's a very good thought. :grin: I guess I'll head over there. :cool:

[Mouth Of Sauron]

I thought the third film was far better than the first two. Didn't it have a different director? And Draco looked quite nice in the 3rd. :grin:

[The Scottish Elf]

Yes it did have a different director:
Philosopher's Stone - Chris Columbus
Chamber of Secrets - Chris Columbus
Prizoner of Askaban - Alfonso Cuarón
Goblet of Fire - Mike Newell

Well, yes, I think it is slightly difficult for Tom Felton not to at least look quite nice! lol lol

[Eowyn]

yes I liked Alfonso's new look but I'm worried about Mike Newell as the director. He's a good director but this isn't his normal type of film. He's best known for 'four weddings and a funeral' and I think he did 'love actually' just a bit different

[Lady of the Rings]

Ok, I've found 2 pics from HP4, which must have only been released recently! :hooray:
You can see them here (http://www.unforgivable-curses.net/galleries/details.php?image_id=6662) and here. (http://www.unforgivable-curses.net/galleries/details.php?image_id=6663)

And Ron's dress robes look oh so bad! lol lol

[Eowyn]

lol yes I've seen those. I thought I'd resurrect this thread. Miranda Richardson's on the comic aid thing at the moment. She looks rather scared. Although I would be if I was being terrorised by people in wierd costumes... ok now she's been kidnapped... very strange but funny and I think that was the point lol

[Lady Nenya]

I love those pics. I can't wait for the release!! :stomper:

[Amithrellas]

...And Ron's dress robes look oh so bad! lol
Ar first glance, I thought he was wearing a cheesy leisure suit from the '70s! lol

The news I read recently that got me very excited :hyper: :hyper: :hyper: is that Ralph Fiennes is going to play Voldemort!!
Eru, preserve us! :drool: :drool: Let there be LOTS & LOTS of Voldemort :naughty:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v314/Amithrellas/Rafe.jpg

[Eowyn]

but he's supposed to be scary and evil. It's bad enough I've taken a fancy to certain death eaters without alling for the dark lord as well! lol

[Eowyn of Rohan]

wow I think Ralph Fiennes will be the perfect Voldemort! He has this strange wild look..I like that!

[Amithrellas]

Ralph played a TERRIFYING bad guy in Schindler's List :o (and was completely to die for as Heathcliff in Wuthering Heights :drool: ... or the English Patient... or The End of the Affair... lol) I'm afraid for me, you can keep the other death eaters, Eowyn.
As much as I am a Viggo fan, I think Ralph could have been a devastating Aragorn. Added that "Whoa, this guy is dangerous!" edge to the role. *faints at the thought* Just don't tell ImDaMom I said that! ;) lol

[Onilalle]

Hehe! lol Nah, I could *never* think of Ralph as Aragorn. Ever. Sorry. ;)
I think Ralph will make a FANTASTIC Voldemort... In fact when I saw it was him who had been cast for the part, I was so excited! :hyper: His face is just perfect - I didn't have ANY second thoughts about this one. Although without question, he'll have some creepy prosthetics all over his face so he won't look QUITE the same as his usual good-looking self. :naughty: lol

[Eowyn of Rohan]

I pretty much like the whole casting for GoF so far!
apart from the guy chosen for Krum's part...he's too different from my mental pic of him!!

[Eowyn]

Ralph played a TERRIFYING bad guy in Schindler's List :o (and was completely to die for as Heathcliff in Wuthering Heights :drool: ... or the English Patient... or The End of the Affair... lol) I'm afraid for me, you can keep the other death eaters, Eowyn.
As much as I am a Viggo fan, I think Ralph could have been a devastating Aragorn. Added that "Whoa, this guy is dangerous!" edge to the role. *faints at the thought* Just don't tell ImDaMom I said that! ;) lol
Ami ~ I can really keep the other DE's :drool: I'm so happy! OMG you#ve seen the end of the affair! So jealous we can't get hold of it. It is the one with Jason Isaacs (Lucius Malfoy) in isn't it? :huh: oh and I promise not to tell IDM ;)

Oni~ I'm intrigues as to what he's going to look like with prosthetics.

EoR ~ I agree Krum doesn't look right at all :(

[Onilalle]

He'll look slightly different - he has to, I think. lol I'm so excited - can't wait!
I was so pleased with the guy they chose for Karkaroff (Pedja Bjelac) as he's just how I imagined him. Wasn't pleased with Fleur (Clemence Poesy) or Cedric (Robert Pattinson) either, but hey, what are you gonna do. :rolleyes:
I have pre-ordered the HBP book!! :hyper: I chose the adult version cos I was horrified with the children's version cover (the british one)... :elfeek: Doesn't 'Dumbledore' on that cover look a lot like Gandalf gone demented?? :(

[Amithrellas]

This is a spoiler so don't look if you don't want to!!!! lol

Found a piccie of Ralph in costume :drool:

No nasty prosthetics covering Ralph's face, precious pfbbt

OK... so he's got red eyes :rolleyes: He HAS to have red eyes, right?

Eowyn ~ Yes, Jason Issacs IS in the End of the Affair ;) What are we to do with all these dishy DEs? (and ex-DEs like Alan Rickman :naughty: )

EoR ~ have to agree @ Krum. Physically way off. This fellow's quite buff -- should be gangly :huh:

Onilalle ~ lol I agree the Dumbledore illustration does look like Gandalf gone awry hee hee

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v314/Amithrellas/My_Voldemort.jpg

[Eowyn of Rohan]

First GoF promo poster!! :grin:

http://www.rupertonline.net/images/gofpromo4.jpg

I still think that Hermione's hair are too cool for her character..in the book she is pretty messy and that's why no one recognize her @ the yule ball!!

[Eowyn]

I know I'm really annoyed that they've made Hermione's hair decent I can't understand it. plus the clthes are al wrong generally. I have to pretend I haven't read the books recently to actually enjoy the film for what it is. Highly annoying and very tricky.
Krum should have been gangly
Cedric isn't good looking anough
Voldie just looks wierd and not scary, where's the piccie from because it looks like a spoof to me.
Poster - who was responsible for that? I'm not impressed, the amount they get paid it should be more eye catching than that :(

and yes the cover looks like gandalf is crazy mode lol I suspect I'll get the adult cover but it won't match OotP then :(

[Onilalle]

Yeah, that pic is *undoubtedly* photoshop. :rolleyes: I'm sorry, but it just sticks out like a sore thumb for someone who's worked on it for years. ;)
I agree with EVERYTHING you said, Eowyn. Yeah, don't you think Hermione's getting way too *cool* for her character? It's dissappointing. She's wearing jeans and stuff now - Ok, but I imagined her own clothes to be like... wooly cardigans, pleated skirts and perhaps cord trousers. They got her perfect in the Philosopher's Stone film (Sorceror's Stone in the US) but what went wrong in POA I don't know. :huh: She looks like a supermodel, and that's just awful!! What have they done to her character?? :angry:
I gotta say, like all those die-hard Tolkien fans out there, I'm very much a Rowling purist. ;) lol I hope they re-make the films one day... With the right cast :rolleyes:

[Amithrellas]

Voldie just looks wierd and not scary, where's the piccie from because it looks like a spoof to me.
You're right Eowyn and Onilalle ;) It was someone's concept in The Leaky Cauldron. I'd found it on an Google image search of Ralph Fiennes and didn't check context.

Hermoine? Really a shame they've Hollywood-ized her, I agree :rolleyes: Besides being at odds with the written character, they never consider all the girls out there who identify with non-glam Hermoine.

As for poster -- obviously initial concept. There'll be tons of others ;)

[Onilalle]

Yep, I agree. ;) Just desperate fans who can't be bothered to wait. :grin: lol
I hate the fact they made Hermione all glam - just shows they're conforming and being all samey. pfbbt Now THAT's something I will NOT tolerate. :mmmm:

[Eowyn of Rohan]

I didn't like all of that muggle-clothing...aren't they supposed to wear their robes while they are @ school?! no matter if they have classes or not I think that apart from weekends they should have it on!
And Hermione...she's too cool(talking about outfits and make up)! and she's not so self confident as they want her to appear!

[Eowyn]

phew that's a relief. thanks for confirming that Ami :)

I agree witheverything you guys have ssaid about Hermione and yes they should wear robes. They kinda do in the first one... and possibly the second I can't remember but they've tried to make it all cool and lost the feel of the books in the process.

Oni ~ I'm a purist too then ;)

[Eowyn of Rohan]

well in the second Harry fights the Basilisk and he has the uniform on...while in the third I think they wear it almost only @ lupin's classes! :nono:

BTW Am I wrong or they changed the actor who portayts prof. Flitwick?

[Eowyn]

same actor I think but they made him look different if you check on imdb.com they should be able to tell you. Warwick Davies was the actor playing Flitwick in the first two.

[Eowyn of Rohan]

maybe then they have just changed make up and outfit! Prof Flitwick seemed younger to me in the 3rd movie!

[Onilalle]

Must've been the prosthetics - I can't understand why they'd pick another actor anyway :rolleyes:
Anyways, what was is your opinion of the girl playing Fleur (Clemence Poesy)? She looks really different to how I imagined her... She looks a bit young to me, but then again that's just my opinion ;)
And Pedja Bjelac (to be Karkaroff) looks spot on for the part. :thumbs:

[Eowyn]

Not seen piccies of Karkaroff.

as for Fleur I'm not sure she's not as pretty as I pictured her. I thought it should have been Ludivine Sagnier
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0756203/

[Onilalle]

Nah, I thought Fleur could have been more... well, elf-like is a more accurate description, really. :huh:
But here's the guy playing Karkaroff :hyper:
http://ubb.empireonline.co.uk/printthread.php?Board=bookworms&main=736846&type=post

(And there's a weird little comment underneath it... lol quite funny really)

[Nelluska]

I Like The 3 Headed Dog Of Harry Potter's Movie 1!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Eowyn of Rohan]

wow I think that the guy casted for karkaroff is perfect!
18/11 will never come soon enough!!

[Eowyn]

Nah, I thought Fleur could have been more... well, elf-like is a more accurate description, really. :huh:

I agree, she should be more elf-like! :)

and thanks for that link very good he looks about right actually.

Nellu ~ fluffy's soooooo cute isn't he. I want one.

[Pallndo]

I agree, she should be more elf-like! :)

and thanks for that link very good he looks about right actually.

Nellu ~ fluffy's soooooo cute isn't he. I want one.


And what is the elf actually like? Like a dwarf.

But i must agree, fur she was a little like an elf but she could have been more.

[Andy]

I've only read from The Prisoner Of Azkaban onwards, but I ejoyed all of them. I like the movie versions but this latest one was a disapointment on first view. After a couple more views I liked it more

[Eowyn]

did you read the 3rd book before you saw the movie? because that's the only reason it could be disappointing. You should read the first two though. they're good books and worth reading ;) plus much better than the films for them

[Andy]

True, I did read it before it was shown so that's why. I get all disapointed by cut scenes
I only started to read them after I saw the first film and I decided not to start at the first because I'd seen the film, and then not the second because the film was being made lol
I think I might start reading them now

[Eowyn of Rohan]

even if in my opinion the first and the second movie are well done, I still recommand to read the books.
most of all because the funny moments have been all cut off! :nono:

[Eowyn]

The books and films are very different and EoR you're right they have cut the majority of the funny bits.

[Eowyn of Rohan]

Gals! don't know if you've seen it but mugglenet.com posted a commercial in which there are interesting bits from GoF... go, see it and tell me what you think!
It looks quite cool to be! :grin:
Ps does anyone know where I could find the Sirius moving poster? I tried on e-bay, but it's soooo expensive... :(

[NeatNicki]

I've seen lots of trailer and interviews and E! promos... None of the TV promos really seem to understand the world of Harry Potter. So sad. :hmppf:
But I'm generally excited for Harry Potter 4! Woohoo! :hyper: The sneak peeks look great! :grin:

And I know I can't say this with any authority, but it "looks" like they're following the book fairly well. (I don't mind deviations, really, I just don't like it when adaptations invent extraneous crap that isn't necessary. Like making up new powerful non-JKRowling spells like they do for Hermione just to prove that she's a super skilled wizard, or having the Basilisk "hear" Harry (snakes hear? really? oh yeah, no they don't!), and Voldemort revealing that he's Harry's father. Ok, that last one didn't happen, but you get the point I'm trying to make. ;) ) JK Rowling's books are so easily adaptable (she almost creates a little film script) that it's a shame the directors change and cut and revise so much of it that they do...
I had the biggest problem with CoS's script and the understating of Ginny Weasley in the majority of the film, when she was more crucial to the plot. And with the aforementioned scene with the Basilisk... rather poorly done.

I think I like the first and third films the best, though the adult actors seemed a little stiff and forced in PoA compared to the other two, so I'm hoping this new director will guide them a bit better. However, I really liked how Alfonso Cuaron added touches in PoA to trigger the audience's attention to Hermione popping up out of nowhere. But then again, I think they could've pointed out her meeting with Prof. McGonagall a little more...

Otherwise, I don't know about anyone else, but I'm just fine with Michael Gambon filling the role of Dumbledore. Kinda goofy seeming in this next film, from what I've seen of the trailers. But then again, Dumbledore is pretty wacky! ;)

I'm not going to re-read the book right before I see the film, don't want to be disappointed. A colleague of mine did that for the last one too and she was very disappointed with PoA. Advice: just don't do it!
Ok, I'm done. :p

[Eowyn]

lol I'm re-reading the books before HBP comes out but I agree there's no way you should read them just before seeing them :o I did that with the first one :(

see I don't like Gambon as Dumbledore purely because he scares me lol Dumbledore should seem friendly and approachable and I spend the whole time wanting to run away. lol i think it's my inner-slytherin

[Eowyn of Rohan]

from mugglenet:

Gary Oldman has 'tiny part' in GOF
The actor who plays Sirius Black recently said the following in an interview with IGN: "I'll disappoint you because I'm just a tiny, tiny little part in the next one. I'm just embers in the fire. But if I do Harry Potter five, I'm featured in five. And, oh, they'll have to pay me big bucks for that. (He laughs)"

And now I'm angry!!! :angry: They can't cut Sirius off like that!!!

[Elrond]

I like the books a lot better than the movies. I didn't think much of the first movie at all. But, I'm looking foward to GOF. I wamt to see the dragons most of all.

[Lady Nenya]

:wave: Hello everyone.
I just found this thread right now. :grin:

Okay I'm not going to ramble but I do want to say this. I love the books beyond anything but I do love the films very much to. I know people always say the books are better but your got to think how hard it must to to cram the hundreds of pages into 2 or so hours. Ofcourse the movie has flaws. I think NeatNicki mentions Ginny's character not being portrayed well in CoS. I agree as she was a critical part of the plot. I didn't like how they just threw her in at the end when Tom was talking to Harry. It didn't at all pull through very well.

I just finished rereading GoF today. And I am so excited for the film! :yahoo: From seeing the trailer it seems like the new director will do a good job. I hope he fixes some of the mistakes that Alfonso did. Like having the the students wear hip muggle clothes. I can't wait to see the yule ball. I hope they put in the part where Harry and Ron are trying to find dates. lol

[Eowyn of Rohan]

From seeing the trailer it seems like the new director will do a good job. I hope he fixes some of the mistakes that Alfonso did. Like having the the students wear hip muggle clothes. I can't wait to see the yule ball. I hope they put in the part where Harry and Ron are trying to find dates. lol
I agree with you also bacuase it would be hard to make something worse than the 3rd movie...sigh...my fav book so spoiled!! :angry:
I can't wait to see the cemetery scene...creepy stuff!! :o ;)

[Eowyn]

ooooh the cemetry :hyper: I can't wait! but if they ruin it I won't want to watch it again.

oh and as for cutting sirius, well the dursleys don't feature at all in the next film :huh:

and if they do decide for OotP that they aren't going to film it in the UK I'm boycotting it. If a big budget film like that won't support the British film industry I won't support them. :angry:

sorry rant over

[Lady Nenya]

Oh yes I'm am so excited for the cemetry scene. :stomper:

The Dursleys aren't in the GoF film?? What's up with that? I really hope that isn't true. I would be very disappointed if that is the case.

[Elijah's Girl]

I thought that was stupid....I always look forward to seeing the dursleys.....and Ron of course :blush:

Theres also not going to be a Molly in this film either...which is disapointing if you read towards the end of the book when Harry is in the hospital wing....

[Lady Nenya]

If they're not going to have the Dursleys that must mean they skip the whole Ton Tongue Toffee part and The Invitation aswell. Aww I was lookin forward to seeing that. :(

Well I think it's understandable that Molly isn't put into the film. She doesn't have as big as a part and anyways her character doesn't in anyway really drive the whole plot of the book.

[Elijah's Girl]

Well she does have that part with the hug and when she comes during the tasks...

[Eowyn of Rohan]

EG is right! Molly is a lovely character..I'm really sad that she is not in the 4th movie... :(

[Lady Nenya]

Well she does have that part with the hug and when she comes during the tasks...

Yes but the thing is the story can still go on without her character. The book is so long and I suspect they had to cut out everything that wasn't directly effecting the plot. Or the film would be so very long. That's just what I think. :)

[Eowyn]

yes it is a shame. Molly is fantastic.. but we'll see her in later films :) and like Lady N says they have to cut stuff if they're going to make this into a short film. GoF is a big book and unlike OotP it isn't mostly backstory, it's all essential and all building up to something... I'd have hated to write that script.

[Lady Nenya]

Oh yes to be a script writer would be torture. I applaud them for doing what they do. :)