Aragorn's Ring

[Big Ranger]

Not exactly Two Towers specifically, but...
Anyone know what's the ring Aragorn wears on his left index finger?
It's been in both movies, and I don't recall anyhting about it in the Three Books...
Anyone??

[Lady Ashley]

It's the Ring of Barahir, the father of Beren, husband of Luthien. it's actually mentioned in the Appendix talking about Arwen adn Aragorn.

I was very pleased that it's in the movies, though technically, Aragorn gave it to Arwen, instead of her giving him her necklace.

And in The Silmarillion, it's described, under the chapter "Of Beren and Luthien".

[Arwen Undomiel]

ooooh thanx for this thread! i've noticed his ring and it's gorgeous! :)

[Big Ranger]

Originally posted by Lady Ashley Thalionwen
It's the Ring of Barahir, the father of Beren, husband of Luthien. it's actually mentioned in the Appendix talking about Arwen adn Aragorn.

I was very pleased that it's in the movies, though technically, Aragorn gave it to Arwen, instead of her giving him her necklace.

And in The Silmarillion, it's described, under the chapter "Of Beren and Luthien".

notworthy
Many thanks, kind Lady...

[Tar-Ancalimë]

kind lady... heh hehheh you obviously dont know her very well do you :naughty:

lol jk, Ash is really a sweetheart lol

[Rumil]

The ring was made in Valinor and used to belong to Finrod Felagund. He gave it to Barahir as a token of his oath to aid the house of Barahir in every need.

[Arwen, Elven Princes]

I has one of my favorite gems in it and it looks very nice on Aragorn. But when did Aragorn give it to Arwen?

[Narsil's weilder]

Yeah i just got the Ring for my birthday. It looks really cool. I love it. Making payments now. :(

[Galadhon]

Yes, the Ring of Barahir is a beautiful ring, indeed.

I purchased the authorized replica and wear it on the same finger that Aragorn wears his on. When it came in, I was so happy with it that I immediately ordered another one just to keep on hand as a collectors item.

[Narsil's weilder]

Yeah I too. Wear it on the left hand, pointer finger.

[Lady Ashley]

No problem, Big Ranger.

To Tar: silly twin. lol

to Arwen, Elven Princess: Aragorn gave it to Arwen when they fledged their troth (i. e. got engaged) at Cerin Amroth 38 or 39 years before the War of the Ring. (He's actually very old. 80-something.) Mr. PJ obviously has other plans for the Ring of Barahir...

[Narsil's weilder]

Oh great.....PJ and his plans.

[Glarawen]

He always has to throw a twist in it............. lol (not that it is always a bad thing :thumbs: )

[Brindlescruff]

You guys think it's gorgeous?

I know in the book it's described with serpents on it, but the little snkaes holding the ring just don't work for me.

~brin

[Glarawen]

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yeah it is long sorry! lol lol lol lol lol

[Glarawen]

oh wait it wasnt as long as I thought!!!!!!!

[Isilgorn]

hehe i am the snake tooooo :silly:

[Isilgorn]

err...........:p

[Gwaihir]

So how exactly does the ring pass on from Barahir to Aragorn? I know as far as Barahir - Beren - Dior then they go to Elwing, then Elros, and down the looong line of Numenorean kings, right? I'm not really sure. But it is a beautiful ring with a lot of history and meaning behind it.
:grin: I love the ring of Aragorn! :grin:

[Finrigwen]

I´ve read the appendix 1000 times and it says NOtHING about the ring of barahir.
PJ changed the gift of galadriel ( a necklace with a green stone) for Arwen´s evenstar necklace.
At least it´s what i undestood.

[Narsil's weilder]

Here is the answer your looking for:

http://valarguild.org/varda/Tolkien/encyc/papers/ringBarahir.htm

[Kenzie]

Originally posted by Narsil's weilder
Yeah i just got the Ring for my birthday. It looks really cool. I love it. Making payments now. :(


hey i have three questions
#1.) where did you get it????
#2.) do you know around about how much it was????
and last but not least
#3.) can anyone find i clear good picture of it

......... i might wanna get one .. :thumbs:

[Narsil's weilder]

1: http://www.noblecollection.com/catalog/catalog.cfm?catid=17
2: Around $129.00. I got it in 4 payments of $32.25
3: http://www.noblecollection.com/catalog/popup.cfm?id=NN9687L.jpg

[Kenzie]

oh thanks narsil ...... hhhmmmm .... i'll have to think about it (i'm broke at the moment .......... hehe lol i always am)

[Rumil]

Originally posted by Finrigwen
I´ve read the appendix 1000 times and it says NOtHING about the ring of barahir

From appendix a in the bit about the heirs of Isildur in the north kingdom:

"Arahael ... was fostered in Rivendell, and so were all the sons of the chieftans after him; and there also were kept the heirlooms of their house: the ring of Barahir, the shards of Narsil"

The footnote to this section explains the ring's provenance

"it was none other than the ring which Felagund of Narothrond gave to Barahir, and Beren recovered with great peril"

It also crops up in the part of the tale of Aragorn and Arwen:

"Elrond... delivered to him the heirlooms of his house.
'Here is the ring of Barahir,' "

and finally in the tale of the years in appendix b

"2980 Aragorn enters Lorien, and there meets again Arwen Undomiel. Aragorn gives her the ring of Barahir, and they plight their troth..."

Thus by the time we get to the action of the war, book Aragorn had already given the ring away.

I have read this WAY too many times .... perhaps I should get a life....... nah ... it's too much fun (sad but true lol)

[Kenzie]

o my gosh i love the part in the apendix about aragorn and arwen ... know it by heart hehehe ( i think i'v already said this hehehe o well)

[Finrigwen]

In My book ( the spanish translation) it says nothing about the ring of barahir WHEN Arwen and Aragorn met in Cerin Amroth.
That´s where the misunderstanding is.


sorry mecry

[Narmo Hendu]

no not in the arwen aragorn section in one of the time lines they have it ( beats me wich one ... theres so many!!)

[Roxanne Elessar]

I love his ring!!! And personally, I think it makes him look good when you see it on him.

[Winyaél Greenleaf]

And here's a pic where you can see the ring of Barahir rather clearly ;)

http://www.warofthering.net/movies/photos/ttt/people/aragorn/irgimg/aragornbarahir.jpg

[Elfdaughter]

I took that chinese astrology thing....and what a suprise! I'm an OX!!!!

[Winyaél Greenleaf]

Then you must be born in 1985. I'm a tiger. I always knew. ;)
There are 12 animals in the chinese zodiac. If you're interested to know, just PM me. ;)
And back to the Ring of Barahir pls! lol

[Elfdaughter]

OK. Sorry. Yes, I was born in 1985.

So....
What are the markings on it? Those heads..are they snakes?

[Winyaél Greenleaf]

yup, I think it's serpents ;)
I'm afraid that pic wasn't too clear. :( If anyone can find a nice pic of the Ring of Barahir, feel free to post it up ;)

[Elfdaughter]

Why serpents? I mean..do they represent anything?

[Luvara]

hehe... I did the chinese astrolgoy thing, and I'm a snake! And on Aragorn's ring, there's snakes... :grin: lol

[Kenzie]

hey i'm a snake too!! lol

"There king finrod felaguand, hastening from the south, was cut off from his people and surrounded with small company in fen of serech; and he would have been slain or taken, but Barahir came up with the bravest of his men and rescued him, and made a wall of spears about him; and they cut their way out of the battle with great loss. Thus Felagund escaped, and returned to his deep fortress of Nargothrond; but he swore and oath abiding friend ship and aid in every need to Barahir and all his kin, and in token of his vow he gave to Barahir his ring" (pg 177 silmarillion)

kinda random i know lol

and unless i am mistaken that is how the ring came to men!!! lol

[Lasgalen]

Aragorn's ring is my favorite piece of jewelry from the movies. It is so detailed yet it is not gaudy.

[Winyaél Greenleaf]

Well, HERE'S (http://valarguild.org/varda/Tolkien/encyc/papers/ringBarahir.htm) a page where you can read up a little about the Ring of Barahir.

Originally posted by Luvara
hehe... I did the chinese astrolgoy thing, and I'm a snake! And on Aragorn's ring, there's snakes... :grin: lol

Don't be too happy dear, lots of people are snakes... lol as long as they are born in the same year as you are, or share an age difference of 12 years with you. So guys, pls don't get too excitable about the horoscope thing. It's basically sort of an equivalent to the western zodiac... ;)

[Kenzie]

it's a pretty old ring!!! lol imagine how much trouble he'd be in if he lost it :o lol lol

[Luvara]

then let's hope that he won't! lol

[Kenzie]

he'd be pretty screwed lol....

he looks really good wearing it

[Luvara]

yes, it's a beautiful ring on a beautiful man! :naughty: lol

[Kenzie]

and i think he looks sesie with that glove thing on the other hand!!!! (i'm tempted to drool lol)

[Luvara]

what do you mean? :huh:

[Winyaél Greenleaf]

She probably meant he looked sexy with the ring on one hand and that black handguard thing on the other lol

Now let's get back to the Ring of Barahir :grin:
Does anyone have any idea why snakes are engraved on the ring? :huh:

[Kenzie]

it has somthing to do with the symbol of finrods house??? not sure one of the people whose name begins with F (for those that haven't read the sil there are like 50) (well not literally)

[Undomiel]

Is it the house of Finarfin? Finrod's his son right? I get so confused lolI really liked Aragorn's ring in the movie, i thought it very much as how i had imagined it. What i want though is a replica of Nenya. I did think about getting the Ring of Barahir, but it's not very girly lol

[Luvara]

lol no, it's more manly! :naughty: ;)

[Kenzie]

it is... but think it's still be cool to have!!

[Lasgalen]

If I bought a piece of middle earth jewelry, I would buy Aragorn's ring.

[Elfdaughter]

I've got a ring that (purely by coincidence) looks a bit like Narya (that is the Ring of Fire, right? I get confused between Nenya and Narya.)

[Lasgalen]

Yes. Narya is the ring of fire.

[Kenzie]

barahir just suits aragorns hand so well!!! lol

[Winyaél Greenleaf]

It sure does. He's just as sneaky as those serpents :naughty: lol J/K!!!!!

Well yeah, the ring is really cool! Well, so the serpents have got something to do with the symbol of the house of Finrod?? :huh:

[Lasgalen]

I finally found it!!!

Quote from the Silmarillion:

For this ring was like to twin serpents, whose eyes were emeralds, and their heads met beneath a crown of golden flowers, that the one upheld and the other devoured; that was the badge of Finarfin and his house;

[Winyaél Greenleaf]

Oh! So that's it! It was from the symbol of the house of Finarfin!
Thanks for the quote, Las! That would definitely clear everyone's doubts! :thumbs:

[Catz]

what on earth is so gender specific about a RING??? lol
i have a very similar one that i wear all the time......i think its a lovely touch that they included the ring........something that most people wouldnt even have noticed
:catz:

[Winyaél Greenleaf]

I agree... lol too much discussion about the manliness that Barahir reflects lol
yes, it's good to see and study all the rings in detail. The people who made these rings deserve some credit too ;)

[Frodo's Love]

Oh indeed they do! :thumbs: I just think that Barahir fits Aragorn perfectly.
Las, thank you for the quote from the Sil. I forgot about it again somehow :blush:

[Lasgalen]

Thanks. I knew I had read that somewhere. It just took me a while to find it again.

[Kenzie]

yep thanks for finding it ...

the ring isn't gender specific... i think the serpants make it seem pretty manly .... but gals can have snakes too!! and the snakes are only part of the bueaty of the ring!

[Lasgalen]

Some girls like big rings (and that is OK) but some girls like smaller, daintier rings so that is why I think some of them call it manly.

[Undomiel]

yeah that was why i said it. I think if i had to choose one i would buy Nenya, but if i could i would get both of them :grin:

[Kenzie]

nenya's pretty chunky too and that ring seems feminine so i don't think it's necesarily the size... more like the colors and carvings ... like nenya is a whitish color ... very light and delicate looking ... while barahir's metal seems of a darker color and more (i don't know what word you use lol) sturdy?lol lol i dunno

[Winyaél Greenleaf]

Hmm... Nenya may cover a pretty big portion of your finger, but it looks dainty enough lol.

Ring of Barahir definitely has a sturdy feel about it. Very suited for a regal ranger lol

[Hobbit]

The ring of Barahir is quite cool. Hehe lol I first thought the Ring was stuck in the wrgfur during the horse/warg battle and I first thought that was why he tumbleled of the cliff lol
I would love to see the movie version of that ring for it looks a bit different from the replica's I've seen.... or is that just me :huh:...... anyway the replica's are cool too.

[Kenzie]

yhea does the movie ring have gold on it? i've seen replicas that have some gold on it.

[Hobbit]

I think not.... but I could be wrong... I don't know....
But just compare this (http://www.noblecollection.com/catalog/product.cfm?id=NN9687&catid=17) version of the ring of Barahir with the one of the movie pic Win posted halfway down the second page of this topic. They just don't look the same while they're both supposed to be the ring of Barahir...
They're both beautiful jewels though, no doubt about that.

[Winyaél Greenleaf]

oh yes I've seen that before. It looks quite nice, but don't really like the snakes. I prefer the movie version Ring of barahir lol
I suppose the jewellers have a right to do their own interpretations of the ring based on the book, cuz I guess there's the copyright infringement problem and all. So we hardly get to see jewellery pieces that look exactly the same as those in the movie.

[Hobbit]

I guess you're right, but it's misleading for someone who wants a true movie collectors item that they talk about the moviering and use a pic from the movie.
I like the movie version better too, although this one is also quite nice..

[Kenzie]

yhea i can't really see the ring all that clear in the piccy that win posted... and i can't seem to find any other pictures of of it!!

[Lasgalen]

Since the rings are hard to see in the actual movie, how do we tell when a site is offering a correct replica vs one of their own design? I would like to eventually get the ring of Barahir, but I want to make sure I get one that looks like the movie.

[Luvara]

No idea... :huh: I'd like one too!

[Kenzie]

yhea so i guess they just have to guess as best they can and use info from the book

[Winyaél Greenleaf]

Those pics in the collector trading cards should be pretty clear since they'll show close-ups for the object. Like the one for the ring of Vilya ;)

[Kenzie]

yhea they are really good references ... do you supose theres one for Aragorns ring??