Eowyn and Merry

[squirrel]

I definently think I'm gonna go crazy if the part where Eowyn and Merry kills the witchking are cut out or not even filmed !! aren't you? if any of you know something about the subject please inform me! thanks

[Hedon]

Leaving that out is like leaving out Frodo and Sam at the Crack of Doom. :p I am 100% sure PJ includes this in the film. After all, all the characterisation of Eowyn would have gone to waste if she didn't take part in the battle. Why would PJ have shown her sword-training and wishing she could join the battle, if she weren't to fight in RotK?

[squirrel]

I really hope so ! and its not likely that he would leave that out but I can't help worrying! thanks for calming me :)

[TheRingBearer]

And sine it has been announced that the theatrical cut of ROTK could reach 3 and a half hours, I think there must be enough room for that very important part :grin:

[Tar-Ancalimë]

uh there is no way in the whole world that would be cut out :)

[Black Rider]

i think PJ would get a lot of angry letters if that part got cut out - certainly one from myself! anyway, they might just hype it up more than the book because it's going to be in that battle, and they seemingly like to have tons of violence on screen ::cough::helm's deep ::cough::

[Warrior Alien]

Seriously, I don't know how ROTK could survive without it. In the Ringer world, it's mandatory to know that Eowyn and Merry (well, more Merry than Eowyn) killed the Witch-king. You just can't kill the Witch-king along with the other Wraiths when the Ring's destroyed. I mean, in the first two movies, Jackson hyped-up the Witch-king's identity quite a bit, with the spiked shoes, knuckles and different sword. In no way could Jackson cut that out.

[Polly Sandybanks]

No.. it cannot be cut out. It's one of my favourite parts of the book and I'm really looking forward to it. That, too, will really show the new Merry, as a soldier (which I've always found really sad, but anyway). And also, if I'm not totally wrong, isn't that when Eowyn gets wounded which ends up in her meeting and falling in love with Faramir? They can't change that!

[Foxhead]

My biggest fear is not that they will cut out the entire scene (they can't!), but that they will make it out so that Eowyn does the entire thing herself. But I doubt it, really. I just hope they keep the scene identical to the one in the book. ^^;

[Little Devil]

They have too keep it, it's one of the best parts in the book! ;)

[Iarfirithwen]

Leaving that scene out would be as bad as killing off a central character that's not meant to be. I'm sure PJ knows he would be hung by the fans if he cut the scene out or, as Foxhead worried, cut Merry out (even though the scene is more Eowyn than Merry ;) WarriorAlien).... Have no fear PJ and Co. would'nt do that. Imagine the uproar if he killed off Legolas or something like that - he'd be hung, drawn, quatered and then stoned for good measure. The same would happen if Eowyn (&Merry) vs the Witch King is cut in entirity or Merry was removed from the scene (and I'm sure he knows it) :grin:

[squirrel]

Yeah! you guys are right ;)
*calm now* but I always think "what if" Its a illness
feel my pain;)

[Mr Shirefolk]

I think it will be Aragorn who battles the Witch King: it will give him some more screen time, which he will need in the third film in order to justify the title of the film. I think Eowyn will have to make do with slaughtering a few Uruk-hai.

I hope I'm very, very wrong, though! ;)

[Foxhead]

Originally posted by squirrel
Yeah! you guys are right ;)
*calm now* but I always think "what if" Its a illness
feel my pain;)

It runs in the family. ;)

(yes, I am related to the squirrel. XD)

[Stickman]

Calm down everybody! I remember reading in an article by Miranda Otto that Eowyn was "going to do something quite awesome in the next movie" or something like that. I'm sure that the scene will be in, we shouldn't be worrying this much about stuff. And the Houses of Healing will be in too, so there must be some way for Eowyn to get there, and i'm sure it isn't just some stroke by "third Uruk hai from the left"

[Stickman]

Also, in an interview by Adangio.com, Billy Boyd said about Merry and Pippin: "Merry learns how to ride a horse and wield a sword, and we make big differences in Middle-earth" Think about it :)

[bab5nutz]

I think that Eowyn and Merry confronting the Witchking is going to be one scene that they won't dare to change.

SPOILERS IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN TTT YET!!!

In TTT, they are clearly building up to something with Eowyn's character. There's that bit where she's playing with that sword, and Aragorn comes in, and he compliments her on her skill with a blade. Eowyn then tells him that she fears being trapped, and that she will never get the chance to do a deed of valour.

Later, when they're on the way to Helms Deep, and the Wargriders attack, Eowyn tells Theoden that "I can Fight!". She's clearly more than a little frustrated when Theoden tells her no.

Besides, this is the one part of the movie where a woman gets to kick butt - and is actually in the book!

[Little Devil]

Eowyn is a brilliant character, who shows that she is up for danger and has the power, bravery to match any man. I can't wait to see her and Merry defeat the WitchKing, and I really don't think that PJ will leave such a important bit out. ;)

[squirrel]

I know Eowyn is sooo cool! :)

[Gowpon]

Originally posted by Iarfirithwen
Leaving that scene out would be as bad as killing off a central character that's not meant to be. I'm sure PJ knows he would be hung by the fans if he cut the scene out or, as Foxhead worried, cut Merry out (even though the scene is more Eowyn than Merry ;) WarriorAlien).... Have no fear PJ and Co. would'nt do that. Imagine the uproar if he killed off Legolas or something like that - he'd be hung, drawn, quatered and then stoned for good measure. The same would happen if Eowyn (&Merry) vs the Witch King is cut in entirity or Merry was removed from the scene (and I'm sure he knows it) :grin:

Now I see the possible danger of being a director...lol

I think PJ will not cut out the scene. HE WILL EXTEND IT!!! It's more logical though. :thumbs:

[ithilienlady]

I read an interview with Otty where she said she killed the Witch King. I was annoyed at that because My niece hadn't reached that part of the books and it was a major spoiler.
So I don't think we need to worry. I mean that scene and the paths of the dead and the Corsairs are crucial !

[Altáriel]

I read somewhere that Eowyn kills wormtongue in the rotk,it might be a rumour,but if it´s true , who kills the witch king then?Eowyn too?or Arwen?.I can't imagine anything worst.Arwen does nothing at all in the books, she just waits to get married.
Sorry for my english but I´m from Spain and I don't manage the language very well.

[Bonos-Girl]

no, your language is very good. i don't think arwen will kill the witchking somehow, they edited out her parts in helms deep (all be it not very well) so it seems really unlikely.

[Gowpon]

Originally posted by Altáriel
I read somewhere that Eowyn kills wormtongue in the rotk,it might be a rumour,but if it´s true , who kills the witch king then?Eowyn too?or Arwen?.I can't imagine anything worst.Arwen does nothing at all in the books, she just waits to get married.
Sorry for my english but I´m from Spain and I don't manage the language very well.

Hey we are talking about Eowyn here! Don't drag Arwen issue out again please:o (No offense)

And my English isn't too well either...roflmao
Anyways...there's no way that PJ's going to shorten up Eowyn's part...he'll only lengthen it I bet!:thumbs:

[Rumil]

I think there is more chance of Arnie turning up as a Terminator sent from a paralell dimension to 'blow the witch king away' than PJ cutting this scene. Hmmm.... now that would be trashy wouldn't it? :)

[legolastheawesome]

If in TTT PJ is trying to develop Éowyn's character as a woman who wants to make her mark in bravery, and not get held back as a woman, then PJ will definately NOT cut out her sheer courage when she and Merry defeat the Nazgûl and the Lord of the Nazgûl.

[SindarinGirl]

If Arwen shows up at Helm's Deep, I hope that Mr. Jackson takes that to its logical conclusion and has her and Eowyn wrestle in a vat of Jello for Aragorn. pfbbt

I don't really consider myself a purist, but Arwen involved in any real combat is just too much of a stretch. We are really going to need that vomiting smiley!

Honestly, if Mr. Jackson puts the 2 of them on equal footing in terms of combat, he's doing both a disservice. He'll diminish Arwen's serenity and grace, and belittle Eowyn's fire and drive. :(

Totally MHO

[Rumil]

Exactly:thumbs:

[P.K. Brandybuck]

Originally posted by Iarfirithwen
Leaving that scene out would be as bad as killing off a central character that's not meant to be. I'm sure PJ knows he would be hung by the fans if he cut the scene out or, as Foxhead worried, cut Merry out (even though the scene is more Eowyn than Merry ;) WarriorAlien).... Have no fear PJ and Co. would'nt do that. Imagine the uproar if he killed off Legolas or something like that - he'd be hung, drawn, quatered and then stoned for good measure. The same would happen if Eowyn (&Merry) vs the Witch King is cut in entirity or Merry was removed from the scene (and I'm sure he knows it) :grin:

Okay PJ listen up!!! if you don't wish the above mentioned to be done to you, you best not cut, remove or alter this scene!!!!!
:angry:

Merry RULEzz :blush:

[Altáriel]

Merry and Eowyn killing the witchking is my favourite part of lotr book,as I see it now I don't think PJ dares to cut that scene off

Also I would like PJ to give more action scenes to Eowyn since he did that with Arwen t would be fair ,from my point of view.
I think those people who had seen ttt but hadn't read the book may have some misunderstoods in Eowyn's character,I'm saying that because the second time I went to see ttt I went with a friend, and before the movie I said to her that Eowyn was my favourite character because she has a very strong personality, and then while watching the movie at the part where Aragorn appears at Helms deep and Eowyn realises he's not dead, my friend told me:How do you like her, she's so silly, she has just met Aragorn for a couple of minutes and she's so in love!!!" that's when I started thinking something was going wrong with the development of Eowyn's character in the movie.What do you think about this?

[Lady Melody]

I'd personally mutiliate PJ if he reduces himself to doing such a thing. In other words, OVER MY DEAD BODY.

I don't think he'd be as unthoughtful as that.... what Eowyn's doing in the movie, then?

[Little Devil]

In the book I think that Eowyn fell in 'love' with Aragon after they shared a cup of wine, or something, so I won't think that it was silly that she fell in love with Aragon so soon. :)

[bab5nutz]

Well, it certainly doesn't take long for Eowyn and Faramir to fall in love in the book - about six pages in my edition. One page they're talking in the garden in the Houses of Healing - six pages later, Faramir has proposed, and they're in a clinch on the walls of Minas Tirith where everyone can see them!

Now don't get me wrong - the Faramir/Eowyn romance is one of my favourite bits of LOTR, but if you think that Eowyn falling for Aragorn happens fast - well she and Faramir fall for each other even faster. Although perhaps it isn't totally ridiculous that they fall in love so fast - close, intense relationships can grow very quickly under extreme situations, such as a war.