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Warrior Alien
January 5th,2003, 06:05 AM
Hey. This is where you can post your choreographies on how you would like certain scenes in ROTK to look like, such as Pelennor Fields, Cracks of Doom and the Paths of the Dead. They can be as long as you want. Heck, they can even be reinventions of certain battles.
I'll start with the Battle of Pelennor Fields, near the end.

A dark shadow falls across the plains, and the sun is dimmed greatly. Theoden looks up worriedly at the darkness, and grumbles.

Theoden: Our time has come. *commands* Forth, Eorlinga -

He is cut short as a black dart soars through the air, finding a mark in Theoden's shoulder. He gasps in surprise, and slumps over off Snowmane.
Then, the Witch-king, atop his scaly steed, descends down in front of the Host of Rohan. Merry stares in terror at the sight, hidden under Dernhelm's cloak.
The Witch-king raises his mighty sword and brings it down, slicing Snowmane's side. The horse topples over, trapping Theoden beneath him. The host panics, with horses neighing and riders screaming. In the midst of it all, Merry shouts.

Merry: Theoden!!!

Dernhelm: Merry, no!!!

The enraged hobbit dashes from Dernhelm's horse to the fallen figure of Theoden. This catches the Witchking's attention, and he digs his spurs into his steed's sides, ordering it to kill the hobbit.

Dernhelm: Stand down, filth of Morgul.

The Witch-king turns to Dernhelm, and stops his flying steed.

Witch-king: *freaky whisper* Who dares defy the Witch-king of Morgul and Angmar?

Dernhelm: A citizen of Rohan and a brave warrior of the Mark. I demand that you resist from killing the hobbit or defiling the body of Theoden the Wise.

Witch-king: A challenge. Well, apparentely you do not know that I, the greatest servant of the Dark Lord, cannot be struck down by the hands of a man.

Dernhelm: *dismounts horse* A man may not be able to defeat you . . .

Dernhelm removes his helmet, revealing himself to be - Eowyn.

Eowyn: *continuing* but I am a woman, Eowyn of Rohan, and thou shall remove thyself from the presence of the king.

She lashes out with her sword, and in one, swift stroke, decapitates the flying steed. The Witch-king seems to admire her cunning and stubborness, and he climbs off the stinking corpse of his steed.

Witch-king: Alright. Your challenge is accepted.

He draws his sword, now a blade of Morgul, adorned with blood-red rubies.

Eowyn: *at ease* So be it.

Immeditately, she strikes, but the Witch-king deflects her blow. He swings around in a full-circle, shoving her to the ground. Fortunately, she recovers, and blocks a heavy, two-handed swing by the Witch-king's sword. She dodges another lash by diving under his legs. Surprised, the Witch-king only barely misses being struck as he brings his blade behind himself, parrying a swing by Eowyn.
Nearby, Merry raises from kneeling by an unconscious Theoden's body. He turns to the fighting persons of Eowyn and the Witch-king, locked in combat to the death. He slowly draws his sword, limping towards the two combatants, for the Black Breath of the Witch-king is beginning its effect.
Eowyn also begins to take the toll of the Breath, as she slows down. She raises her shield to block a blow, but the force of the Wraith's swing breaks both her shield and her arm. She screams in pain. The Witch-king raises his sword, ready to strike down Eowyn.

Merry: *grimly* For Rohan. For the Shire. For Theoden.

The hobbit, with all his remaining strength, throws his sword. It finds a mark - right in the back of the Witch-king's neck. The Wraith freezes, struck dumb by the pierce. He drops his sword and slowly reaches for the blade through his neck. He pulls it out an examines it, just before it desintigrates down to the hilt. He looks one more time at Eowyn, and falls. Eowyn's sword, standing up in her hand, impales where the Witch-king's head would be.

There. That's my vision about how it should be. The chances of being like that are slim to none, and slim just left town, but I like it.
Post your visions. Now deconstructive criticism, please.

PippaUK
January 8th,2003, 01:44 PM
cool, does merry throw his sword? it reminds me of aragon fighting the ringwraiths in FOTR, but i dont think it would suit merry. Eowyn diving through the witch kings legs reminds me of sam and the cave troll, but i cannot imagine eowyn being able to pull that off. maybe a roll?

Faramir
January 8th,2003, 09:15 PM
Im not too crazy about having the Witch King notice Merry and go after him. I like it in the book, where Dernhelm takes the first action, reveals herself as Eowyn and Merry (who actually falls off of Dernhelm'n horse shortly after arriving at Pelennor) then says "She cannot not die alone" and goes up to the Witch King UNNOTICED and stabs it in the back.

high capt. of angbad
January 14th,2003, 03:59 AM
a few ideas i wana voice
i thaught that they wouldnt talk so much, and when they did it wouldnt be proper english. remember, theyr kinda dark and didnt go through grammer school.
and the "so be it" line was kinda melodramatic too.
btw i dont wana sound to snappy, so sorry if i do.

Morgothian
March 25th,2003, 03:15 AM
My visions are they have about 12,000 men in Minas tirith than about 5000 riders of rohan come and around 25,000 orcs alos show really cool seens of the seige and the massive engines used to get to the top of the walls of the city also cool seens of the gondorians and orcs fighting hand to hand in the pelennor and grond should be awesome to. The best part of that battle should be the end with the Black fleet that has to be done good. When the hobbits are Mordor dont have the seen with them marching with the orcs thats to fake for the film and make sure it looks hard and rough to travel across Mordor the the field of Coremillen should be awesome to it should be the biggest in numbers wize. There are to many things to list that I want to see.

Saruman
March 25th,2003, 01:25 PM
Sam's battle with Shelob is explained in detail. I wouldn't mind that scene not to be changed at all.

Winyaél Greenleaf
March 27th,2003, 01:54 PM
That was pretty good! :thumbs:

Periantari Andruil
March 27th,2003, 04:07 PM
I really like what Warrior Alien put :thumbs:

Ireth
March 27th,2003, 11:42 PM
Yes it was a good way to put it....
I wonder how they will do the paths of the dead...

Legolas, Aragorn, Glimli, and the Dunedain of the North ride over the black ridges of the haunted mountain. They rode under the gloom of black trees up to a hollow place opening at the mountains root. To the right there will be a single mighty stone. As they dismounted the horses and walked up to the Dark Door everyone in the company shivered and had fear in there eyes. All except Legolas who did not fear the ghosts of men.
They all slowly enter (music in the background) and the horses relunctantly follow(horses neighing & kicking the ground)
Aragorn and the others light torches....to reveal hardly anything in the pitch black cave there are whispers from all around them...in no tounge that has ever been heard...
there footsteps echoing they walk into a great space with no walls on either side.....something white glitters from the torches and aragorn walks over and the fire reveals bones (dun dun dun...music)
aroagorn examines and stands up and speaks to the open space "Keep your hoards and your secrets hidden in the Accursed years! Speed only we ask. Let us pass and then come! I summon you to the Stone of Erech!"
The whispers suddenly stop and the company are in complete silence...then a chill blast came and the torches went out!!!
And they walked in the darkness...and footsteps could be heard all around them...growing louder and louder.....then a tinkle of water could be heard (drip drip drip) ...then a light could be seen...they made it out...and gimli gets on the horse with legolas and they ride in file....and legolas turned to speak to gimli his eyes had a strange gleam in them......and he was looking behind gimli on the path "The dead are following," says legolas and the camera turns to see men and horses and pale banners like shreds of cloth waving in the air...and spears and swords...and then it turns back to legolas and he repeats "The dead are following"

thats what i think...all though i didnt really give you a good visual and i pretty much got it straight out of the book it sounds really good when i read it and i just get chills thinking about it...i hope they put the paths in the movie!

Morgothian
April 15th,2003, 11:20 PM
This is how I think the battle should happen, All the soldiers ready them selfs and prepare for battle, with about 8500 men garisoned in Minas Tirith. The witch kings army attacks with about 20,000 orcs, 5,000 Uruk Hai, and around 2,500 Easterlings, or evil men. They attack with huge seige towers and latters, Then after the first wall is breached the men are pushed back closer to the city. Then major hand to hand fighting accurs with the orcs and men, As the men are being overwhelmed grond then breakes the main gate, and it just about seems over, but then Theoden arrives with about 4,000 Riders of Rohan. They charge and trample a whole bunch of orcs and the men begin to push the enemy back. Then theoden dies and the Witch king shortly after. So then the Orcs begin to lose their feirceness and start to loose. Then as the battle is still raging on the black fleet arrives and Aragorn unleashes his army to finish off the rest of the orcs, and they achieve victory but with a great cost.

Nessa
April 16th,2003, 02:13 AM
I added your thread to the "Your Visions" thread, Morgothian, it fits in nicely here. :) I hope you don't mind.

Morgothian
April 16th,2003, 08:10 AM
No its fine it looks better here anyway, thanks.

Ireth
April 17th,2003, 02:43 AM
yes i like it too!

Morgothian
April 29th,2003, 06:37 AM
In the ROTK game pics we saw some of the orcs in battle and there helmets look funny there like circular shape like the English soldiers in Braveheart, And we now that they use those huge seige ladders like at Helms Deep. I just cant wait untl the movie comes out, grrrr only 8 more months. verymad

Ireth
April 29th,2003, 09:44 PM
lol.....remember Morg.....patience is a virtue...:wink:

Morgothian
April 30th,2003, 03:40 AM
It is too hard I have to see it now, lol I can wait No Im lying lol grr o well theres nothing I can do just wait. They need to take there time and make the rotk the best of the triolgy wich I think it will be. And in TTT at the end when Gandalf said 'the battle for helms deep is over, the battle for middle earth is about to begin", hum.. hint, hint meaning get ready for the ROTK he is saying. I just loved that line it was perfect.

Ireth
April 30th,2003, 08:05 AM
Yes it was really good...but I am kinda getting annoyed with sams litlle, or should I say long, speech's at the end...I hope they dont do that in RotK...

Morgothian
May 7th,2003, 05:51 AM
I didnt think the speach was bad it was very touching lol, But it seemed right for the momnent remember their Hobbits their used to green grass and rolling hills, not battles and mordor.

Ireth
May 7th,2003, 05:58 AM
yeah i know but.......ok ok...you have a good point...i love sams speech's
lol

Altáriel
May 8th,2003, 01:26 AM
I think Eowyn and merry's part with the witchking should be as close to the book as possible, I can't think of a better way to tell that part,it's so well describe.
I would like to see Eowyn as described in the books "maiden of the rohirrim, child of kings, slender but as a steel-blade, fair yet terrible...."she has to look very,very beautiful and terrible,queenly ,with those tears running down her cheeks for Theoden's death whom she loved as a father but still proud.What i would change is that i would show her looking directly to the nazgul,not hiding herself under the shield to avoid the witchking eyes,looking directly to him, standing straight, not showing fear,intimidating the nazgul.....
I think the part from the pelennor fields where "a light fell about her(eowyn),and her hair shone in the sunrise"is very cinematographic,it would look great that after killing the nazgul the sun emerges between the clouds iluminating eowyns hair and face showing her glory and also as a sign of hope...(her hair will have to glow in gold)
I would change also de part where Theoden dies without knowing that eowyn lies near him,it would be better if he gets to say to Eowyn before dying the words"dearer than daughter"
Also I like a lot how merry manages the situation and decides that eowyn doesn't deserve to die, and saves her!!!
It's going to be so great and so sad i'm going to cry the whole movie long

Ireth
May 8th,2003, 01:43 AM
oh stop Altariel! Your gonna make me cry!

Periantari Andruil
May 8th,2003, 02:00 AM
mecry
me too...
but yeah that'll be a great scene...i can't wait... jeez i've been typing that so much hehe

i can't wait for the whole movie!!! :whoohoo:

Morgothian
May 8th,2003, 02:38 AM
Do you think the Witch King should have a Mace like in the book or a sword like he had in FOTR and TTT.

Ireth
May 8th,2003, 02:49 AM
a sword cause it was already in the other movies...

Rock26
May 8th,2003, 05:21 PM
No, a mace. That's how Eowyn gets her arm broken. Where does it say in the Middle-Earth Warfare Handbook that you can't change weapons?

Ireth
May 9th,2003, 01:38 AM
Yeah but he uses a sword in the other two.....thats why i think he should use a sword

Rock26
May 9th,2003, 04:41 PM
I know what you mean. But I think he should use a mace, like Sauron did. Kind of "The Official Weapon of Mordor's REALLY Bad Guys." I don't know. JMHO.

Ireth
May 9th,2003, 09:22 PM
well you do have an excellent point....i am just trying to make it easier for those who have not read the books and have just seen the movies.....like i took my cousin to see the two towers and the whole time i had to explain what was going on!!!! I am suprized I didnt lose my voice!lol

Rock26
May 9th,2003, 11:00 PM
No problem. I just think it would it would change the story a little. I guess her arm could still get broken if the WK hits her shield hard enough so I guess it would make no difference. A mace just seems better for bone-crushing blows. Not that I have personal experience with such. Have a good weekend.