Image Spoiler Thread for The Return of the King

[Fatty]

Post you photos from the Return of the King in here. Only a year to go!

[Ahreron]

http://www.theasc.com/magazine/dec02/two/images/bimage4.jpg

http://www.imagemagician.org/images/kalimac/bmerpipisengard.jpg

http://www.quintessentialwebsites.com/lordoftherings/movieshots/hobbiton_sam.jpg

http://www.quintessentialwebsites.com/lordoftherings/movieshots/pelennor_fields.jpg

http://www.quintessentialwebsites.com/lordoftherings/movieshots/hobbiton_samandelanor.jpg

http://www.lovelylivtyler.com/pictures/lotr/lotr118.jpg

http://www.lovelylivtyler.com/pictures/lotr/lotr205.jpg

http://www.lovelylivtyler.com/pictures/lotr/lotr209.jpg

http://www.lovelylivtyler.com/pictures/lotr/lotr212.jpg

http://www.warofthering.net/movies/photos/ttt/people/eowyn/irgimg/eowynsteps3.jpg

http://www.lovelylivtyler.com/pictures/lotr/lotr207.jpg

http://www.lovelylivtyler.com/pictures/lotr/lotr413.jpg

[Tar-Ancalimë]

thanks for those! the one of pippen in isengard is great... makes me hopeful for the voice of saruman....

did you know that the 'lovelylivtyler' links just direct you to the homepage? i had to c&p into my address bar to get them.

and i think that last link there is from ttt

[Kalimac]

Hmm. The Liv Tyler shots I think are mostly cut scenes or scenes from Fellowship or TT . . there is however, somewhere a picture of Arwen with her crown in ROtK. Ah, here it is:

Queen Arwen (http://parnassus.ath.cx/~narflet/imladris/queen.jpg)

And, the return of the King Elessar (http://www.quintessentialwebsites.com/lordoftherings/movieshots/aragorn_king_small.jpg)

More scenes that may be in ROtK :

Book Five, Chapter I (Minas Tirith) (http://www.quintessentialwebsites.com/lordoftherings/movieshots/Book5_Chapter01.htm#I)

Book Five, Chapter V (The Ride of the Rohirrim) (http://www.quintessentialwebsites.com/lordoftherings/movieshots/Book5_Chapter05.htm#V)

Chapter VI: The Battle of the Pelennor Fields (http://www.quintessentialwebsites.com/lordoftherings/movieshots/Book5_Chapter06.htm#VI)

Chapter III: Mount Doom (http://www.quintessentialwebsites.com/lordoftherings/movieshots/Book6_Chapter03.htm#III)

Chapter V: The Steward and the King (http://www.quintessentialwebsites.com/lordoftherings/movieshots/Book6_Chapter05.htm#V)

Chapter IX: The Grey Havens (http://www.quintessentialwebsites.com/lordoftherings/movieshots/Book6_Chapter09.htm#IX)

Smeagol and Deagol tempted by Ring (http://www.imagemagician.org/images/kalimac/000smeagoldeagol.jpg)

Smeagol/Gollum (http://www.theasc.com/magazine/dec02/two/images/bimage10.jpg)

Four pictures from ROTK includes Grond, Pelennor Fields, and a possible shot of Shelob's lair. (http://warofthering.net/specialnewspages/rotknewbooks.shtml)

Gondor Riders (http://usuarios.lycos.es/middleearth/LOTR/gondor_riders.jpg)

Gonder Riders Deux (http://usuarios.lycos.es/middleearth/LOTR/gondor_riders2.jpg)

Gondor and Rohan Riders (http://usuarios.lycos.es/middleearth/LOTR/rohangondor2.jpg)

'The Field of Cormallen' Book 6 (http://www.quintessentialwebsites.com/lordoftherings/movieshots/pelennor_fields.jpg)

Return of the King Book Cover: Aragorn holds Andúril (http://www.houghtonmifflinbooks.com/images/0618129111.gif)

Minas Tirith Book Cover (http://www.houghtonmifflinbooks.com/images/0618260285.gif)

[Tar-Ancalimë]

wow elessar is a hottie.... i hate arwen. lol

Chapter V: The Steward and the King didnt work for me.... nor Smeagol and Deagol tempted by Ring....

eeew that gollum pic is nasty i hope that never gets put in *blergh*

lol

[Kalimac]

Try to cut and paste . . they're working for me. :rolleyes:

Here are a couple more . . I don't think we have seen any of these images in FOtR, SE FOtR, or TTT.

Corsair Army (http://images.countingdown.com/images/countdowns/movies/538368/1011/2493213_main.jpg)

Pellenor or Black Gate Battle (http://images.countingdown.com/images/countdowns/movies/538368/1011/2495531_main.jpg)

[Tar-Ancalimë]

i did, dont roll your eyes at me thank you very much.

thanks for the other pics

[TheRingBearer]

wow they're great. I can't wait (i can't believe i'm saying that already, in a few months it'll be meaningless lol ) ;)

[Little Devil]

hehe they look really good, only a year! lol

[Iarfirithwen]

TORn has just linked to a ROTK2003 Calender at Hollywood Dreams Online (http://www.hollywooddreamsonline.com/). Small images, and the scans aren't of great quality ( actually looks like bad digital photos) but you get the idea. Incase they get moved from the front page (the link above) to somewhere else, I'll put the individual links below:
January - Aragorn (http://www.hollywooddreamsonline.com/images/Return_of_the_King_Januarysmall_small.JPG) Originally I thought this was Eomer (yes they're not good reproductions and my eyes are getting bad) I assume it must be Aragorn right.
February - Gollum (http://www.hollywooddreamsonline.com/images/Return_of_the_King_Februarysmall.JPG) Very precioussssss
March - Arwen in THE missing red dress (http://www.hollywooddreamsonline.com/images/Return_of_the_King_Marchsmall.JPG) Seen this shot in some Asian promo posters for TTT (diff background though). Does this mean the elusive scene is in ROTK?
April - Sam holding Frodo (http://www.hollywooddreamsonline.com/images/Return_of_the_King_Aprilsmall.JPG) Ahhhh.
May - Gandalf (http://www.hollywooddreamsonline.com/images/Return_of_the_King_Maysmall.JPG) Yep, still white
June- Eowyn (http://www.hollywooddreamsonline.com/images/Return_of_the_King_Junesmall.JPG) I really like this shot. Very Eowyn. I like the hand on her heart.
July - Merry & Pippin (http://www.hollywooddreamsonline.com/images/Return_of_the_King_Julysmall.JPG) Standard gear
August - Denethor and itty-bitty-little Faramir (http://www.hollywooddreamsonline.com/images/Return_of_the_King_Augustsmall_small.JPG) :evil: Yep that's Denethor alright (I think we've seen this shot before)
September - Legolas & Gimli (http://www.hollywooddreamsonline.com/images/Return_of_the_King_Septembersmall.JPG) On horseback
October - Galadriel (http://www.hollywooddreamsonline.com/images/Return_of_the_King_Octobersmall_small.JPG) Very Galadriel
November - Uruk (http://www.hollywooddreamsonline.com/images/Return_of_the_King_Novembersmall.JPG)
December - Frodo in Shelob's Lair (http://www.hollywooddreamsonline.com/images/Return_of_the_King_Decembersmall_small.JPG) 100 pts tp anyone that can actually see Shelob lol

[Iarfirithwen]

ooops just noticed I copied image location rather than link location for a couple of the months. If you would like to see January, August, October and December about 2 pixels larger, delete the second "_small" from the url. (Sorry , ran out of editing time :) )

[Keverzwijn]

Why can't we directly post these images on this thread. It's way more fun when you can see them direct like in the other image spoiler thread.

[Frodo's Love]

But those pics are amazing anyway...
I can't wait to see more :whoohoo: :)

[TheRingBearer]

Yeah those are great. The gollum one almost looks cute lol and Eowyn looks great as well. And the frodo/sam one is really touching.

[Kalimac]

Fatty has them up on the front page:

2003 Return of the King Calendar (http://warofthering.net/movies/photos/rotkcalendar/)

I saw these pictures earlier and was totally blown away . . they have been removed from the original site though with no explaination.

These are temporary. Wish these were bigger

http://www.imagemagician.org/images/kalimac/janaragorn.jpg
Aragorn with reforged Anduril . . finally

http://www.imagemagician.org/images/kalimac/julymerpip.jpg
Merry and Pippin surrounded by the waters of Isengard . . Flotsam and Jetsam??

http://www.imagemagician.org/images/kalimac/novoathbreak.jpg
Oathbreaker from Paths of the Dead??? Maybe?

Pretty sure that the above isn't just any ordinary orc . . looks too human . . could it be an oathbreaker?

[Fatty]

Folks you can post them direct. What I would ask is that you only do it with photos on our forum, else we are pinching bandwidth.

Shortly there will be a facility for some members to upload photos so you can post them in here.

http://warofthering.net/movies/photos/rotkcalendar/images/Return_of_the_King_Augustsmall.jpg

PS It was not enabled in this forum ....ooops :-)

[A! Elbereth]

Ok... the Sam holding Frodo picture has got my stomach twisted in knots of anxiousness and angst pains. I can't wait for it, I no I will not make it through the year!!! Arrrrrghhhhhh!!!!! :elfeek:

These are good pictures. What did Fatty mean when he said the pictures looked odd for the calander? I couldn't tell anything odd besides it was a rather messy scan lol :huh:

[Lady Ashley]

Yeeeeeeaaaaaa! I LOVE LOVE LOVE the new calnder pics of Sam holding Frodo (*sniff*) and Frodo in the Lair...EEEEEEEEE!!! I'm so JAZZED about it!! (Prolly 'cause I've gotten to Book 6 of ROTK today!!!) Hooray for spoiler pics!!!

[Sméagol]

This isn't a picture but it's some footage which i think is from ROTK seen in trailers.

go here to get it ROTK KLIPS (http://drekmaster.20m.com/video/ROTK_KLIPS.mov) :thumbs:

[Sméagol]

Allright the last file wasnt the good one so here is the good file ROTK CLIP (http://blackcomb.homestead.com/files/ROTK_KLIPS2.mov) ;)

[Iarfirithwen]

Oh they haven't been removed from the site, they are still on the HollywoodDreams site Kalimac, they're just not on the front page (which is the link that most people had). Given we all know that "front pages" for sites change often, ...that's why I posted the l links to the individual pages and those links to individual pages posted still work. (hence the danger in not posting specific links). Not that it matters because Fatty has put up copies here now anyway :)

[Faramir]

So, what are all your opinions of this pic:
http://www.quintessentialwebsites.com/lordoftherings/movieshots/ad06sept_hdr02.jpg

It looks shoddy here, but the shot was in the final trailer for FOTR and looks incredible if you watch it in slow motion, from the DVD.

[Elkay]

ummm, isn't Aragorn looking a little blond and differently coiffed in these Rotk spoiler pics? Did Legolas get fed up with his unwashed dark hair and insist on a dye and set job?

[Keverzwijn]

Bigger and better pictures.

Sorry folks....

But these image links have been removed as they hotlinked directly to TorN's images.

If you would like to see these images, then please visit the TorN scrapbook. Otherwise, you are welcome to post links to to the pages that these images are on, using the http syntax, but hotlinking directly to images outside of our galleries using the IMG code is not proper.

Unless of course, you hotlink to your own site and don't mind the bandwidth draw. ;)

Thanks

[TheRingBearer]

nooooo they are not working

[Kalimac]

Anyone save the Frodo and Sam picture? It's timing out over on TORN . . . wait . . I almost have it . . will post shortly.

[Kalimac]

http://www.imagemagician.org/images/kalimac/samfrodocal.jpg

[DezraLothuial]

mecry

Okay, someone please tell me Frodo is not dead in that RotK spoiler picture. I know Shelob poisons him, and that thingy CANNOT be a sword sticking out of his stomach...

Does anyone think that P.J. and Phillpa would KILL Frodo is these movies? I hope not. It would murder the book and my fetish!

Also, a note - If anyone can find any spoiler pictures of Shelob or Merry in Rohan, let me know. I have sought them in vain...

[Little Devil]

I don't think he's dead, PJ can't kill him otherwise how is the movie going to continue with the Ringbearer dead? Sam looks quite blond and Frodo seems to look a lot thiner. :(

[Frodo's Love]

Frodo will not die. How should the story end if he did? But I really have to cry if I look at this... mecry
Wow, this is going to be intense...

[Illuvatar]

Well...since I just got past that part in the book (again), I think that's Sam lamenting over Sam's Choices, which I think that Sean will be able to pull it off beautifully!

[Stickman]

I don't think Frodo is dead in that pic, it must be when Shelob attacked him.
It's nice to see Anduril in Aragorn's hand. That sword is gigantic! :)

[Faramir]

You can see Sting at sam's side (the handle at least). It seems a little bit sunny out for Mordor.

[Fatty]

Folks I have found the source for the images, they were on New Line's own site. Anyway here they are in very high res.

http://www.warofthering.net/movies/photos/rotkgallery/

The rest will follow soon i am sure. :-)

[Elf angel]

:stomper: *so excited*

[ImDaMom]

OK- now I'm ready for ROTK- love Aragorn in his Gondor armor WITH anduril! And Frodo and Sam....makes me want to cry now :(

[Lady Ashley]

Ooh, Fatty, those are EXCELLENT pics. You can cleary see the symbol of the White Tree on Aragorn's tunic, as well as on the gear of his horse. (And look, he's clean!) So that mysterious picture of him in nice Tree-tooled clothes is definately ROTK.

Awsome!! And doesn't the Sam and Frodo pic just break your heart?

[Lady Ashley]

I mean, that mysterious pic of him (the Tree-tooled shirt) that's been floating around the net for the last months.

[TheRingBearer]

I don't think something is sticking out his chest, I think the wind is blowing his shirt.
What a great pic.

[Saruman]

Well, people have strong suspicions about Frodo dying. After all, Galadriel and Elrond know that 'the quest will claim his life'. It's a threat to PJ's existance if he did that, so I'm not sure.

[Lady Ashley]

They had best not kill him! It may threaten his existance if he doesn't fulfill Lady G's 'prediction' but it'll threaten his existance even MORE if he does!

[Bess the Bard]

Looking at Aragorn as the King in that photo gave me a thought. We all comment and complain about how dirty and bedraggled Aragorn is, even the fall in the river doesn't seem to do much good. Given what he goes through, it is understandable.

But just think of the impact when Aragorn finally cleans up, dons the King's armor and comes out looking like he does in the photo. A visual way of emphasizing his acceptance of his destiny. Can't wait for that moment in ROTK.

Let's hear it for the Gondorian Makeover!

[Keverzwijn]

No, I'mpretty sure that Frodo survives it all. First it wouldn't be good for all the people who read the books, we would be ****ed off. SPOILER second, I think I read somewhere that in the end Frodo walks away with Bilbo.

[Adunauriel]

I'm thinking that shot of Frodo & Sam could be shortly after the ring has been distroyed...:)

[ImDaMom]

SPOILER


could that shot be in shelob's lair...after all, even Sam believes
Frodo is dead after she stings him???? (PJ would NOT kill Frodo, and I believe Galadriel is speaking metaphorically)

[Frodo's Love]

Originally posted by imdamom55
SPOILER


could that shot be in shelob's lair...after all, even Sam believes
Frodo is dead after she stings him???? (PJ would NOT kill Frodo, and I believe Galadriel is speaking metaphorically)

SPOILER
I think also that this shot is taken at Shelob's Lair. And it seems to me that Sam also has got Sting at that moment, preparing to go on alone. Sam's Choices...
Frodo cannot be killed- the story would not cope anymore with the book. And I don't think even PJ would dare to make such changes...

[Stickman]

It must be right after Shelob, because Frodo *looks* dead, and Sam thinks so. But think about it for just a second. We all know that the Grey Havens have been filmed. Grey Havens without Frodo? No way, it wouldn't make any sense at all. So i'm completely sure Frodo doesn't die. Frodo lives! :)

And again, Aragorn looks like he could kick an entire army's ***. Return of the King, indeed!

[Iarfirithwen]

Don't you think Aragorn looks a little more "Viggo" in some of those ROTK shots? I know the colouring has been changed on the Calendar piccy (and OMG Fatty those are soooo much better than those itty-bitty grainy pics) so the whole thin is kind sepia, but in the one that Kalimac posted back on Page 1 "And, know the return of King Elessar (http://www.quintessentialwebsites.com/lordoftherings/movieshots/aragorn_king_small.jpg)" his hair is so light/medium brown, not the usual dark brown/black that we normally see. And its more off his face. It just looks more Viggo to me. I actually wondered if they ditched the wig at this point and just let him go with his natural hair. Either that or his hair was so dark because it hadn't been washed for 87 years lol

[Stickman]

I think it might be because the sun is on his hair or something like that. He looks cool anyways. Hey, they censored my post! Who would've known? :)

[Captain of Despair]

Great photos, but are we going to have to wait for the calender for a nearly a year. They should release it now, I don't mind.

Judging by the Merry & Pippin picture the final chapters from book three (the Two Towers) might just get a lookin'.
Gandalf has to confront Saruman - imagine the showdown, it would be good to kick off film three with a bit of action, although that might come from the Shelob bit perhaps, but then again why not, why shouldn't it, it should start and just never stop - till the bitter end!

[MestUpKid]

Either that or his hair was so dark because it hadn't been washed for 87 years lol roflmao lol

I don't like his hair that way (Not that the characters hair has anything to do with his performance) They should leave his hair the way it is. pfbbt @ the blonde/reddish color it looks like Boromir/Faramir color.He also looks like he's got a mullet...:p

[Fatty]

Some intersting stuff to be sure. We have managed to get the rest of them full size :-)
http://www.warofthering.net/movies/photos/calendarfull/images/l.jpg

Etc,

See the rest here:http://www.warofthering.net/movies/photos/calendarfull/

[Iarfirithwen]

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargggggggghhhhh :elfscream: ;)
They are SO amazing! They (TPTB) should do/commission way more photos like these! Not just screen caps but shots that are a tad more artistic. I really love the Arwen, Eowyn, Aragorn, Sam/Frodo, Galadriel, Denethor shots the best. I even quite like the cover hehehe
:gofatty:

I'd trully love to see a book of the Art of LOTR with really good/interesting photography, good portraits etc (no screen-cap type shots). Now that's a book I really would buy.
(wish I could buy the calendar :( )

[fran]

ahhh, now here I can help you :)

what you have been waiting for (http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0007135661/ref=sr_aps_books_1_1/026-0073921-6014050) :grin:

I've know about this since last year and am just so hyped about it...

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[Polly Sandybanks]

:stomper: I can't sit still anymore. I really can't wait!! Why does it have to be a whole year?!?! Oh well.. extended DVD of TTT to look forward to first I guess.
I love that picture of Sam holding Frodo in his arms.. it's so sad. And that picture of Frodo with the light that he got from Galadriel (I assume!?).
And Aragorn.. clean.. a king.:king:

[Adunauriel]

That picture (posted by Fatty) above is amazing. I'm pretty sure it's an Uruk-Hai, and it reminds me of Lurtz... It's still cool thou, very dramatic....:)

[Iarfirithwen]

Wow that book doesn't get released until October 2003!!!....and you've known about it since last year ... You poor thing!

[Frodo284]

Hello everyone...i'm glad i heard about this sight so i can finally talk to some real hardcore likemyself fans...I noticed a lot of you are concered w/ the death of Frodo...I really don't think that he will be killed...The whole story is about "frodo and the ring" not sam and the ring...sams part w/ the ring is very vague and short. This is a spoiler so if you don't want to know what happens...don't read....according to the book, which i have not read yet, but if you go to www.classicnote.com and find the lord of the rings book.. you can read summarys of each chapter and quizes and stuff. Frodo destroys the ring, well ..Major Spoiler gollum does...but it's all about gollum and frodo.. There is no legitamit way to kill frodo off and let sam fnish it...this story does have a happy ending.. Peter Jackson knows better than to do something like that. He hasn't changed a whole story or anything.. But if he does.. I'm sure he'll have a reason for wanting to die..!!!anyways..oh and the pic of frodo and sam...yeah i'll agree that it's the shelob part since sam has sting and that will be a real touching momment...it could on the other hand be after the ring is destroyed, but why would frodo be dead? and yeah that would explain the brightness..but on to the next subject w/ that is that it could be just for the photo...the hair things everyone is talking about is being made too big of a deal over..it's just publicity shots...half of those won't end up in the movie...i hope i didn't ruin anything for anyone..even if you think i did...there is a much more stronger twist to this movie than you think i've toldyou....the end of this movie is going to be f***ing awesome...god i can't wait...only 342 more days!!!

[Wilwarin]

Yes, I very much agree with you, Frodo284. I'm pretty sure PJ isn't going to kill Frodo. I am not worried about it one bit! It will be sad though, that part where Sam thinks he's dead! Oh man, I think I'll cry at that part, and I NEVER cry for movies! (Well.....not counting when Gandalf fell in FotR, and when Sam says he,s going with Frodo to Mordor at the end.)

[Iarfirithwen]

Wil didn't cry when Boromir died? :(

Incidently, well actually maybe not incidently 'cause its related to the delightful calendar that we've all been talking about, I just noticed on the main page that Fatty and co. WOTRn are running a competition where you can win a copy Arrrrrgggggggg.
:whoohoo:
(hmmmmm, I think I just reduced my chances ....... ):mmmm:

[Frodo284]

This page has a lot of lord of the rings updates....if you all want...i'm sure you know all of this news and stuff by now..but i always go to www.comingsoon.net they have tons of stuff there..if you go to that page then go to lord of the rings...it's on the left frame at the bottom w/ all the other top movies coming out....click on either one he has part 2 and 3 listed rigth now...it will have trailers pics posters news you name it.....also when you go to the page look in the middle and the top news is the newest ...he has been putting pics of smegol up and the transforming of smegol ---gollum...just browse through all the news...it's quiet interesting...it led me to this website!!!

[bab5nutz]

That ghoulish picture does not look like an Orc to my eyes. He/she/it looks human - grisly, but human. It could be as someone here suggested that it is a wraith from the paths of the dead.

Or could it be the Witchking? He plays a fairly important part in ROTK. And it's gonna look a teensy bit lame if Eowyn is stabbing at some shrouded figure in a cloak when she goes up against the Witchking. The more frightening he is, the better. And that fella in the calendar is definitely not someone you'd wanna pick a fight with!

[Undomiel]

I love these pics!!!!! they are sooooo cool. Aragorn looks gorgeous as the King. He also looks veyr kingly and commanding. I'm so glad he has Anduríl. I would have hated it if they hadnt given it to him till the very end or something. :grin: I just cant wait now-i cant believe i have to wait a whole year.

Ps-I also firmly believe that PJ wouldnt be so stupid as to kill Frodo. I think the quest claims his life in a metaphoric sense-in that he can never live happily in the Shire again.

[Adunauriel]

I still say that shot of the is of an Uruk-Hai... To me it looks almost exactly like Lurtz... I could be wrong, but that's what it looks like to me....:) ;)

[Frodo284]

someone check out that site i put on my previous post and tell me if you all have read all that stuff about lord of the rings

[Stickman]

I don't think that's the Witch King, he looks more monstrous than human. It could be some... "thing" from the Paths of the Dead, or maybe one of the orcs where Frodo gets imprisoned.
For the Witch King, i don't know how it would work on film, but i'd rather like to see him like he was shown in the books. He was invisible, right? Just a crown, with nothing showing that supports it. That would be cool, if they get it right...

[Adunauriel]

Yea, that would be very cool.. I bet they could get it right, but you never know how they plan to portray The Witch King.... I still say that pic, is of an Uruk-Hai....:thumbs:

[Kalimac]

Frodo284, yes I've seen comingsoon.com . . . it's a good site for pictures and other information about the movies. Thanks . . and, I too would encourage people to keep an eye on the site. ;)

As for the orc, oathbreaker, uruk-hai picture . . I'm not sure if it is an oathbreaker now because I've noticed that the ears are pointed . . I'm thinking that it could be Gorbag or Shagrat . . Frodo's captors . . maybe.

[Kalimac]

>>The whole story is about "frodo and the ring" not sam and the ring...sams part w/ the ring is very vague and short. <<

I wanted to correct this misconception . . this is not true . . Sam is critical to the story's climax . . due to Sam's humility and good common sense . . it is Sam who is often mentioned as the hero of Lord of the Rings . . his part is far from vague and short . . without Sam . . . Frodo never would have made it, and in the end it is Sam who can not bring himself to . . . well, let's put it this way . . Gollum would not be able to go on and play his part in the story. Sam's part in the story will increase in Return of the King. I am trying not to give away too much . .
but, watch Sam . . . . he is very important.

[TheRingBearer]

Yeah that Urak Hai like thing is not the Witch King i think. We've seen the Witch King in FOTR. Isn't he the one who stabs Frodo?

[Undomiel]

yep definitely not the Witch King. I also hope he is like the description in the book. A crown with nothing in between excet the glint of evil eyes-something like that. He so freaked me out in the book!!!

[fran]

the 'strange creature' pic - is labled 'orc' on the calender image, so I'd say it's an orc :)

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[Stickman]

LOL Thanks for the clarification fran. Then i'm betting he's one of the orcs who capture Frodo.

[TheRingBearer]

I'm not so sure. I mean he doesn't really look like a Mordor orc to me. He might be another Urak Hai but that doesn't make much sense cause Isengard has been flooded.

[Undomiel]

That's what i thought-it's really weird. He looks like Lurtz.

[Keverzwijn]

I think this unknown orc might be a sort of Lurtz character. He clearly is quite important cuz he's on the calendar. They probaly invented him for the movie. I don't think he's one of the orcs mentioned in LOTR (Grisnakh, Ugluk, ...).

[Adunauriel]

To me it looks just like an Uruk-Hai... Mostly like Lurtz....:)

[Frodo284]

I just watched the return of the king cartoon and the pic of sam holding frodo in his arms could also possibly be when he rescues frodo from the tower where he is taken because he has been beaten and stuff

[Tar-Ancalimë]

oooh youre right... maybe its not from his 'death'... cool idea!

[Moraneah]

If Sam had gotten him from Barad-dur, Frodo sould have been completely naked......:elfeek:. Is this where you were referring too

[Little Devil]

That's what it say's in the books, wonder what they'll do in the film.......;)

[legolastheawesome]

Originally posted by Kalimac
>>The whole story is about "frodo and the ring" not sam and the ring...sams part w/ the ring is very vague and short. <<



I have to agree. All you people who think that PJ will screw up and make Frodo die, pleeze. It won't happen. Sure, TTT went a little off line but if Frodo dies, it will definately have no influence of the book.:archer:

[Adunauriel]

I don't think Fordo will die either... It's just hard to wait until the movie comes out... I want to know what happens now... I mean I know what happens in the book, but I wanna know what PJ is going to do.....;) :)

[Lady Ashley]

Yes, he is de-clothed in the book...but since it can only be rated PG-13 (that's the US rating system) they'll prolly keep him in his clothes.

But what's with all the light in that one? It looks like full day-light. But then again, they have not completed all the tech and detailing of ROTK yet so if may actually be Mordor-dark in the scene. Which, by the surroundings, does not look like the Tower...it seems to be outside. And Sam has got Sting, tho what has become of their Lorien cloaks puzzles me. Sam's seems to have disappeared at any rate, I can see a bit of a fuz by Frodo's left arm that could be his cloak.

And what's up with Frodo's left ear? Someone in prostetics needs to fix that...It seems to be crooked. lol

And one more thought! Frodo's right hand by his belt...does that look like webbing or shirt?

[Nessa]

That ear prostetic has been bothering me, Ashley! lol

Sam and Frodo seem to be periodically losing clothes, what happened to cloaks and vests? Hmmm...

[Kalimac]

Well, I think the short answer to the absence of cloaks and vests is that the pictures are not from the actual film . . instead they were set up by the photographer to capture particular moments. It is quite possible that Sam and Frodo (Astin and Wood) posed for that shot. Most of the others look staged too. Pierre Vinet is the official photographer for the movie, after all.

[Undomiel]

Originally posted by Lady Ashley Thalionwen
Yes, he is de-clothed in the book...but since it can only be rated PG-13 (that's the US rating system) they'll prolly keep him in his clothes.


Just a thought, but the fact that they take his clothes is kinda important to the story. I dont want to spoiler people, but i'm sure you know what i mean Lady T.

[TweedleDuh]

i just started reading the third book and i got to that part and i agree... it was kinda important.. although so far (Cause i'm not done) i can see how that can be over looked and not shot that way in the movie.

[Nessa]

Ah, Kalimac, thank you. :) Love Pierre Vinet's black and white charactor shots and all..........

Actually, Undomiel, I'm not entirely sure what Frodo's nudity has to do with the plot but I'd like to be reminded, I think spoilers are okay here, it is a Rotk thread. I doubt entirely that it will be shown or even suggested that Frodo is naked, though I think the fact that he was stripped added to the degredation and suffering of the scene... but I'm sure that they'll be enough of all that as is. :(

[Tar-Ancalimë]

well imo simportant cause a)frodo thinks the ring is gone w/everything else and b) mouth of sauron shows the lords of gondor frodo's clothes...

still they could certianly do it another way in the movie. frodo will know the ring is missing regardless, and the MoS could obviously give just his sword or whatever...

[Lady Ashley]

Ack, Frodo's waistcoat IS missing, Nessa! Thanks for pointing that out! Sam's vest (or waistcoat) still seems to be on him( to my observing anyway), tho they both seemed to have lost their jackets in Ithilien. But maybe it was too warm there for jackets? (I miss them tho, such nice proper hobbit-clothes.)

As for his de-clothed moments being symbolic...yes, for he was terribly deprived and shamed in it, but really, I don't think people will want to see naked Elijah (well, hhis fan girls wouldn't mind), but parents would not. And they reduced so much of a lot of things that they're like as not to just give him his pants.

But that's not the point! lol Point is, I love that picture. It's so...sad. Sam just looks so depressed and utterly Sam-like. But yet I will hold to my belief that Sean A. will not call him "master" once. Maybe a couple more "Mr. Frodos" but prolly "Frodo". Un-informed movie-goers would not understand about servant-master things.

Anyway! lol I'd better leave this thread before I get off topic again.

[Adunauriel]

I thought I heard of a picture floating around the net, of Frodo in a loin-cloth.. Could this be an insite into Frodo, atleast being almost undressed?;)

[A! Elbereth]

Loin-cloth Frodo? :elfeek: I could question it....

I honestly couldn't even guess what PJ is going to do about Cirith Ungol... we'll just have to see... *grits teeth*

[Adunauriel]

Yep, I think we'll all have to wait and see... Or, until some really good spoilers get leaked closer to when the movie comes out....:thumbs:

[Undomiel]

surely not a loin cloth????

[Tar-Palantir]

Well, I got here a bit late, but I have a possible solution to why it is not Mordor dark in the photo of Sam and Frodo. Quite simply, Sam has the Phial Of Eärendil out, or it gives at least enough light to light up their little place.

[Undomiel]

that's a good point :thumbs: I always fail to think of stuff like that

[Adunauriel]

That could be true, if he had the phial. It would pretty much light the place up...:cool:

And about the loin cloth, that's just a rumor I heard... I totally said it might not be true... :thumbs:

[Undomiel]

i hope it's not truelol

[Adunauriel]

I also hope it's not true, but you never know what they're going to do...:huh:

[Tar-Ancalimë]

o cmon guys there are always crazy rumors on the net.... and not half of them are true :p

[Tar-Palantir]

well, the loin cloth might be from some later stage in the movie, but most probably it was made up. I really can't see Orcs giving Frodo a Loin Cloth ;)

[Stickman]

Sorry, i'm from Chile so i don't know all the words in english (yet :p). What does "loin" cloth mean? I don't wanna be out of the discussion! :)

[Kalimac]

It's a skimpy piece of cloth that barely covers . . eh . . hem . . essential body parts. The word loin . . means . . the region of the hips, groin, and lower abdomen . . the reproductive organs.
:grin: Understand?

[ImDaMom]

It's what gollum wears throughout TTT

[Tar-Palantir]

Well then. With that sorted, can we get back to the topic?

[Adunauriel]

I guess we should, so what picture should we talk about?:)

[Stickman]

Thanks for the clarification Kalimac :) Now i know what all the fuss is about!

But we should really talk about something else. Have you people seen that pic at Edoras with Merry and Pippin? I think this was discussed before, if not here then in another thread, but gotta change the topic, right? Anyway, i think the whole bunch went to Edoras after the whole "Voice of Saruman" stuff (otherwise M and P wouldn't be there, right?) And then the incident with the Palantir would happen, and they would all part ways. Gandalf and Pippin to Minas Tirith, Aragorn Gimli and Legolas to the Paths of the Dead, and Theoden and Merry stay at Edoras gathering the riders of Rohan for going to the war. What do you think?

[Tar-Palantir]

Well, I think that they all part in those groups. That was almost confirmed.

[Adunauriel]

Yea, I think the groupings will pretty much stay the same as they are in the book.. To change them would be a bit confusing, if you've read the books... But the people who haven't wont know if they change them a little...:)

[Elfie]

Has anyone seen this one?

http://www.calendarlive.com/media/photo/2003-01/6279251.jpg

[Keverzwijn]

No, I haven't seen it yet. Where did you get that? I like it. Aragorn rules in his new outfit!! And welcome BTW.

[Undomiel]

yep he so totally does!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Kalimac]

Elfie, great find . . !!! :thumbs:

[Elfie]

I found it at Calenderlive.com... some sort of sneak peak.

Thanks for the welcome :D. I've been lurking here for some time but never got round to registering.

[Lady Ashley]

*thunk* I LOVE LOVE LOVE that photo...I'm dying now...lol

Isn't Ary's king outfit njust to die for? And his hand with Anuril looks like it's in motion...kinda blurry...hmm...mehinks he's about to charge or take a wack out of the Mouth of Sauron...lol

ME WANT ROTK!!!

[Tar-Ancalimë]

my god you can say that again, ash... wow... *swoons*

[ImDaMom]

all i can say is thank you - i'm on my way to work now, and this puts a smile on my face as i begin the day.

[Narsil's weilder]

Yeah i was worried when the very first image came out cause he kinda lost his roughness that kinda made the charecter but now it looks like good ol Strider is still gonna be the same in a big way.

[Undomiel]

I'm so excited-and his outfit is brilliant-it's just how i imagined it. Even the horse is all kitted up. :grin: I can't belive i have to wait another year-ARGH!!!!!

[Tar-Palantir]

Good news undomiel, because when you read this. It will only be a short year!

[Undomiel]

that's true-it get's shorter all the time. Anyway-the anticipation is kinda fun-all the pics and discussions and the "OMG they CANT do that"s it'll be weird when they are all out and there's nothing to wait for.

[Adunauriel]

Yes, but it's a year non the less.. I can handle it thou, I'll start medication if I must....;) lol J/k, I don't need medication...;) lol

[Quickbeam15]

Do ya think we will see ents in rotk?

[Undomiel]

i should hope so-i guess we don't need image spoilers now though coz we've seen most of them. Still, i hope they are gonna be in it.

[Tar-Palantir]

I can almost promise to you that we will see ents in RotK. There are pics of Merry and Pippin in the Isengard storageroom after the flood. It would be REALLY wierd if the ents just tear down Isengard and leave it there. The parlay at Isengard will very probably be in it to.
Otherwise, how will Gandalf & Co. pick up M & P?

[Keverzwijn]

Ah Quickbeam15, long time since we've heard from you. How did you like the ents? I'm pretty sure they will appear in RoTk. The whole palantir scene will be in as welll cuz I read that Pippin will look into the plantir.

[Adunauriel]

Yea, I agree the ents will probably be in RotK. It would be strange if they weren't....:) :grin:

[TheRingBearer]

They probably won't do much though. Maybe talk to Gandalf about Saruman and thats all?

[Frodo284]

Here's a new pic from RETURN OF THE KING

http://www.comingsoon.net/cgi-bin/imageFolio.cgi?action=view&link=Fantasy/The_Lord_of_the_Rings/LOTR_The_Return_of_the_King&image=rotkjannew1.jpg&img=&tt=

[Adunauriel]

I've seen that one before, but it's cool none the less....:thumbs:

[IceWolfDD]

is smeagol/gollum the one in the back-ish of the boat?

[Keverzwijn]

That's correct, Andy Serkis himself plays the younger Smeagol. THe other one is ofcourse Deagol but I think I've seen a pic of an other actor playing that part.

[Filthylittlethief]

Hello everyone!
Some pictures from the calendar (Aragorn, mmmmh, and Sam and Frodo, MMMMH) can be seen in MUCH BETTER QUALITY at www.imdb.com and then just go to the movie ROTK and then to photos...
enjoy!

[Tar-Palantir]

The quality is better here. The resolution is way bigger here.

[SindarinGirl]

Okay, don't trout me, but does Aragorn looks like he's starting to go bald?
I think I've gotten so used to seeing his hair hanging down - it's weird to see it back off his face.

Does anyone else find the bright pink cloaks of Gondor kind of odd? What fabulous targets they make! "Hey - here I am, hit me!"
I don't remember that in the book - oh man, I gotta read it again? I just finished it (again) last week!

Check this joke spoiler:
http://www.bbspot.com/News/2003/01/jaromir.html

roflmao

300 more days? whine whine whine :stomper:

[Fatty]

NEw one up see the front page, over at OMB.

[TheRingBearer]

lol I've seen that before. Very funny lol

Here's another new picture from ROTK. http://www.theonering.net/movie/scrapbook/large/5880
Looking good :thumbs:

[TheRingBearer]

Sorry bout the double post but I found this cool pic

http://www.theonering.net/movie/scrapbook/large/5864

Nice armour :thumbs:

[Fatty]

Yes it is the one I mentioned on OBM, some Japanese site posted it :-)

http://www.warofthering.net/images/newsimages/rohanriders.jpg

[Adunauriel]

That's a cool picture. I wonder if it them going to Isengard?:)

[Lady Ashley]

I'm debating. No visible hobbits, yet no visible Gandalf. Two guesses:

1) on the way to Isenguard. But no visible Gandalf.

2) on the way back to HD after Isenguard. But no visible hobbits.

This leaves us in a pickle indeed! Iay visible because it could just be M, P and G are not in this particular shot. No way to prove it until:

A) we see the movie

B) someone hears a rumor that's likely to be false (like so many of them were).

oc C) more photos from the same scene are found that have other ppl in it.

O dare I even mention the last, and worst, possibility? Dare I say this last but knowing PJ, horrid thought:

ALTERATION. CHANGE. The worst thing possible.

And there we are. But AWSOME pic anyway!!

[Adunauriel]

I'd be more likely to go with choices 1 & 2....:thumbs: Maybe Gandalf rode ahead to Isengard....?

[Narsil's weilder]

Here are some arwen pics:
http://www.ninecompanions.net/gallery_pics/rotkpics/rotk_arwen_2.jpg
http://www.ninecompanions.net/gallery_pics/rotkpics/rotk_arwen_1.jpg

And a random pic:
http://www.ninecompanions.net/gallery_pics/rotkpics/rotk_riders_1.jpg

[Lady Ashley]

is that un-helmed Rider smoking a cigerette in the last pic??

[Haldir]

I found this pic at elijahwoodinc.com and it says its from ROTK.
It loks like after Frodo gets stung/paralyzed by Shelob and Sam is holding him in his arms. So sad mecry ! Anyways, I have the site here so you can see it for yourselves, here it is:

http://66.139.194.75/rotk.jpg

[Haldir]

http://66.139.194.75/rotk.jpg

[Orkybash]

yeah, that's one of the famous calender pictures that started circulating a while back. The rest are in WotR's photo section, I believe.

They're all awesome pics, though!

[Narsil's weilder]

Originally posted by Lady Ashley Thalionwen
is that un-helmed Rider smoking a cigerette in the last pic??
Maybe so. Looks like it's break time for the Riders of Rohan.

[Adunauriel]

Yep, must have been a break in filming....;) lol

[Wilwarin]

I looks like he's just resting his hand on his chin to me.

In that first Arwen picture, it looks like a cliff behind her. Almost like the cliffs at Helm's Deep?

[Tar-Palantir]

It is said that they filmed Arwen at Helm's Deep, but then Digitally removed her. I have looked at this myself and, I think that this is very probable. I have now seen what I think is Arwen at Helm's Deep. Well, at least they removed most of her. ;)

[Altáriel]

I think is Arwen in Helm's deep and what the hell is she doing there?I'm sorry for Arwen's fans but I hate that picture
I'm so gald they didn't include those images in ttt, it makes me angry that they had even filmed then!!!
Well, guess it has to be more female action in the film,so what about including galadriel destroying Dol Guldur in rotk??That would be so awesome to see.
:elfqueen:

[Adunauriel]

Well, you never know what they might have put into RotK... I mean, we know there's no 'Scouring'. But that doesn't mean they didn't put in something cool for Galadriel....;)

[TheRingBearer]

Yeah, I wonder at what point will it be revealed that Arwen did not go with her people and changed her course.

[Adunauriel]

I have no idea, but I can't wait to see it....;)

[Stickman]

I don't think the Dol Guldur stuff will be in, since they have not been even mentioned in the past movies.

[Adunauriel]

That's probably true, since it hasn't been mentioned...:)

[Tar-Palantir]

Yeah, I wonder at what point will it be revealed that Arwen did not go with her people and changed her course

Suprise!

Because Peter Jackson thought that too many people had read the books he changed the story for RotK radically. Instead of marrying Aragorn, Arwen sails west. Aragorn then marries Eowyn in Edoras before the battle at the Pelennor. And to make another suprise, Sauron Wins.

Result : PJ gets hiself a nice death sentence.

[IceWolfDD]

NO! THAT CANT BE TRUE! YOU BETTER BE KIDDING!Please?
lol. he would get a death sentence! From us book fans, at least

[Stickman]

I think he would kill himself first. That stuff would just be too much for him, he wouldn't take it.

[Tar-Palantir]

I have proof!

When PJ first saw a rough cut of the movie, he cried. That must have been when Sauron kills Aragorn!

;)

[Narsil's weilder]

What a load of bull. Anyone can cry during these movies and it doesn't require a dumb ending like that.

[Narsil's weilder]

A great pic of the leading men of ROTK.

http://img-www.theonering.net/images/240103-karlviggojapan5.jpg

[Adunauriel]

That's a great pic.... :cool:

And I'm so sorry Tar-Palantir, I so don't believe PJ would butcher the book like that.... That's just too crazy to believe.....pfbbt

[Thorondor of Manwe]

Originally posted by Filthylittlethief
Some pictures from the calendar (Aragorn, mmmmh, and Sam and Frodo, MMMMH) can be seen in MUCH BETTER QUALITY at www.imdb.com and then just go to the movie ROTK and then to photos...
enjoy!

To get to the photos, you click on a tabbed menu near the top of the page. Then when the next page comes up, you scroll and on the left you'll find Top Photo Galleries - then click on ROTK. Very nice high resolution photos from the calendar.

You can right click on the photo of your choice and save it as wallpaper. I really like the one of Aragorn, so I now have that as my wallpaper.

I have Windows XP. So, I right-clicked on the photo. A menu comes up. To save as wallpaper (and, assuming you have Windows XP), you click on Set As Background. The photo will then appear as your wallpaper. It may appear as stretched, like mine did. If so, you right-click anywhere on your desktop. A menu appears. Click on Properties. Click on Desktop tab. Find Position and Center the photo. My desktop background color was blue. I changed it to silver. It now looks pretty awesome. To change the background color, just click on the Color menu located under Position.

[Undomiel]

Originally posted by Narsil's weilder
A great pic of the leading men of ROTK.

http://img-www.theonering.net/images/240103-karlviggojapan5.jpg

This might sound seriously stupid-but who is the other guy? The one with Viggo. The only person i thought it looked like was Karl Urban?????????

[Tar-Palantir]

It is Karl Urban, though not as Éomer.

[Narsil's weilder]

Yeah haven't you seen him in on TV? He hosted a special on Middle Earth when the Prime Minister of New Zealand took the host of Discovery Channel on a tour of all the cool sites.

[Tar-Palantir]

Everyone doesn't live in America. Thus everyone does not have American TV.

[Kalimac]

>>Some pictures from the calendar (Aragorn, mmmmh, and Sam and Frodo, MMMMH) can be seen in MUCH BETTER QUALITY<<

You do realize that War of the Ring has the Hi-res of all the calendar, plus the identical ones from www.imdb.com . . . right?
:p

Full Hi-Res ROTK Calendar (http://www.warofthering.net/movies/photos/calendarfull/)

Hi-Res Calendar Images (http://www.warofthering.net/movies/photos/rotkgallery/)

To find recent, rare, hi-res, etc photographs from the Lord of the Ring movies just go to the top of this page and look to the right hand corner under Photos . . .

If your looking for good quality screen caps from FOTR and TTT, try this link. Please don't link directly to their photographs, just save them to your own harddrive. Thanks.

Lord of the Rings Screen Caps (http://www.classicxf.com/images/FOTR/)

[P.K. Brandybuck]

It's such a sad pic.. it's probably the one where Sam tells Frodo:
Please don't go anywhere that I can't follow!! mecry

[TheRingBearer]

How sad. Should be great

[Adunauriel]

I have a feeling this will probably be the best of the three movies....;) :cool:

[Tar-Palantir]

It should be, if PJ can't pull this off. Then he will be the worst director ever. RotK has all the ingredients of a best movie ever. The Lord of the Rings climax is all there, it is when all the great things happen.
I can't wait to see the entire trilogy extended version in a row! 11 hours of total Middle-Earth.

[Lady Ashley]

Ooh, my gosh...that'll be so sweet....hours and hours of LOTR...ooh...marathon! *grin*

[TheRingBearer]

As a joke I once heard said: "Happiness is like wetting yourself. Everyone can see it but only you can feel its warmth"

lol lol lol Ah sorry I'm just feeling rather happy today (there's only 322 days left to go :grin: :rolleyes: )

[Adunauriel]

lol roflmao lol I love that (not the wetting yourself, but the joke).... 11 Hours of LotR madness, I think I'll go into shock once I've bought all of it.....:thumbs: lol

[TheRingBearer]

lol hehe yeah, its funny (also the joke not the wetting yourself part) lol

[Narsil's weilder]

More pics!
http://www.kojiroabe.com/rotk/trollsatblackgates.jpg
http://www.kojiroabe.com/rotk/blackgates.jpg
Love this one: http://www.kojiroabe.com/rotk/georgebush.jpg

[bab5nutz]

I suppose it should have occurred to me before. But I suddenly realised that when Frodo and Sam are at the Black Gate in TTT, it's daylight!

And there's these chained trolls opening the gate. I thought trolls turned into stone when exposed to sunlight? Or is it only certain kinds of troll?

[Veefy]

trolls in north different lineage from trolls in caves and trolls in Mordor.

Mordor would be in constant shadow/gloom because of all that ash bellowing out of Mt Doom..

[Narsil's weilder]

Yes, the same with orcs because in the battle of the Last Alliance it was in mordor where everything is gloomy.

[Meriadoc Brandybuck]

Nice pictures! :)

[TheRingBearer]

Yeah, nice pics. Isn't the troll one from TTT though? The bigature one was cool :thumbs:

[Lady Ashley]

AI! AI! A POTENSIAL INSIGHT IS COME! (Spoiler...insight...something!)

Found this AMAZING thing at FrodoadSam.net

"Later, we sit and watch the filming, in the top room of the tower of Cirith Ungol. The scene is trimmed to its essentials. The dialog is not always Tolkien's, but I have to return to the book to be sure, the spirit is so close. I get to hear one of my favorite lines: 'You can't go walking in the Black Land in naught but your skin, Mr. Frodo.' The essence of Sam. Peter gives the dialog a subtext. Sam is thinking, 'I'm going to destroy that thing that's causing you so much pain - by myself if that's what's needed'. They spend all day on this bit, so critical to the emotional arc of the story. In the end, Sean Astin as Sam delivers the line with weariness, grief, determination, courage, and love. I leave with tears in my eyes." ~ LOTR crew member:

I remembered that the question of Elijah's costume in this scene of ROTK came up and this could possibly be an answer....sort of...I still don't think that PJ would put him nude in the film...he could wear some type of covering...but still!

[Nessa]

There was oh so much speculation about this at another site, and now we can discuss it here as well! :naughty:

No really, I'm serious. Very interesting article, the line suggests that it will at least be IMPLIED that Frodo will be naked, and thats encouraging (beyond and perviness, of course ;) ). Of course, the scene could have been changed or revised since then, you get the idea that there was a lot of that...

Hmmmm......

[Lady Melody]

Oh, he'll wear a loincloth at least (Gollumn) or else the scene'd be cut off in many counntries... mine to be exact... =P

Or they just label it 18SG (sex & violence) and leave it as that... while that ticket booth people glower at me and ask my age... pah...

[Tar-Palantir]

There are many reasons as to why Peter Jackson should not give the movie a high age rating.
Firstly, both New Line and all the cinemas have too much money on the line here. They want to go with profit.
If only people over 18 can see the movie, they will not make as much money as if it was a PG-13 rating.
Secondly, would Elijah Wood like to be naked in a movie, and could WETA do the special effects needed for Hobbit 'Private' parts? :naughty: ;)

[Nessa]

Special effects???? :o Wha?

I don't think Elijah would go nude, he once said he feels uncomfortable even kissing in movies.....

I don't think its a question of whether he actually will be, its a question on if it will be suggested or not. I kind of hope it is, but then again, what if I do something completely airhead-ish like giggle while I'm watching it? I can't imagine that in such a sad situation, but I shock myself sometimes.....

[TheRingBearer]

Yeah I also think he'll have some sort of loincloth on. Firstly because he can't go naked in this sort of film and secondly it will make the parallels between him and Gollum much stronger as Gollum also just has a loincloth.

[Adunauriel]

As I posted earlier, I had heard rumors about Elijah filming in a loin cloth.. Maybe this is a hint as to it being true, and a possible picture... I definately don't think we'd be seeing him nude...:thumbs:

[Bess the Bard]

I think he will have at least a rag for modesty. The most we will probably see is him barechested. In fact, they could leave him in just trousers and Sam would still have a basis for saying his "naught but your skin" line.

[Nessa]

Thats what I'm thinking Bess, I think he would look a bit silly in a loincloth, but tattered breeches would do fine.

[Adunauriel]

True it could be some torn-up breeches, that Frodo is wearing.....:mmmm::huh:

[Meriadoc Brandybuck]

Originally posted by Adunauriel
I'm thinking that shot of Frodo & Sam could be shortly after the ring has been distroyed...:)

The sun would break through the clouds after the Ring's destroyed. I think this is them outside Mount Doom. ;)

[Meriadoc Brandybuck]

Yea, torn up breeches would work just fine. :)

[Lady Ashley]

wow! That's an idea! In fact, that would make sense...sort of. But wouldn't he would be wearing orkish clothes at Mt. Doom and not his own stuff? Unless...dare I say it?....movie Sam finds the clothes...hmmm....*must go ponder*

[Lady Ashley]

EUREKA! BY GEORGE I'VE GOT IT!!!!!!! be prepared for SPOILER. (slight)

It IS from Mt. Doom!!!

1) Sam is missing his cloak

2) Frodo has a cloak in the pic.

3) the sunlight, as someone said, could be from after...you know what.

4) Sam gave Frodo his cloak.

So it MUST be from Mt. Doom! Sam gave Frodo his cloak after Frodo's got taken! I told y'all I'd be pondering! And it WORKED!! Now why the heck Frodo has Shire clothes, I don't know (there we go for another change! movie Sam must have found the clothes after all).

But! That must be the answer!

[Tar-Palantir]

Or not!

[TheRingBearer]

I think you could be right there. Good pondering ;)

[Adunauriel]

It sounds pretty good to me Lady Ashley... I think you've figured it out....:thumbs:

[Lady Ashley]

lol thanks, guys, but then again, I just keep coming up with lots of theories. My theory about Arwen and Eowyn way back when kinda flew out the door, but why knows?

[Meriadoc Brandybuck]

Yeah, that could be the answer...unless the lighting technician was asleep at the desk when lighting that picture up! ;) But I seriously doubt that! :)

[Altáriel]

this picture it's from ttt?I don't remember this scene
http://www.warofthering.net/movies/photos/mostlynewttt/imagepages/image9.shtml

[Adunauriel]

It may have been cut, but hopefully might show up on the Extended Edition...:thumbs:

[Narsil's weilder]

It is a scene saved for the extended version where Eowyn fends off Uruk-Hai who get into the caves at Helm's Deep.

[Adunauriel]

Cool, we get to see Eowyn in action before RotK.....:thumbs:

[Meriadoc Brandybuck]

Very cool! :)

[Altáriel]

awesome!!!
I can't wait for the ttt extended DDV!!!!:grin:

[Adunauriel]

Neither can I... I'm so buying it...:thumbs:

[Meriadoc Brandybuck]

I'm going to get it at Midnight! ;)

[Adunauriel]

I'll probably get it off of Amazon.. If they have it at the same great price that they had the FotR Ex Ed...:thumbs:

[silverwings01]

With the Eowyn pic. . .

There's another one out there (i don't have the link) where she's standing behind a pillar with a sword, so yeah, it'll probably be in the extended edition.

On another note, with either of these pictures, you can see blood on her hands. Several people i've talked to say its orc blood, but I disagree. Orc blood is black. The blood on her hands is red. Any thoughts?

[Adunauriel]

She may have touched people who'd been hurt.....:huh:

[Meriadoc Brandybuck]

Perhaps...it could be Orc blood or human blood. *shrugs*

[TheRingBearer]

Or she could have been injured. Quite a radical change to the story though.

[Adunauriel]

I don't like the thought of Eowyn getting hurt before the Pelennor Fields Battle. It just doesn't seem right to me, that just wouldn't be right... :mmmm:

[A! Elbereth]

Adunauriel 's suggestion seemed to make the most sense...

[Meriadoc Brandybuck]

I agree. ;)

[Adunauriel]

Well, it just seemed logical.. With all the people in there that maybe one or two of them might possibly get hurt.. Then if any of the men came down there and they were hurt, she would try to help them as well.... So I just came to the conclusion that it more then likely would be human blood...;) :grin:

[Altáriel]

here is the pic:Eowyn with blood in her hands,awesome!!!
http://maidenfair.net/miranda/cardd.jpg
Could it be killing wormtongue in ROTK?, the scouring of the shire is probably out, and there are rumours in the net about Eowyn killing wormtongue, do you have news about this? this would explain the red blood in her hands.

[Meriadoc Brandybuck]

It could be. I heard about her killing Wormtongue too. Still, I'm not 100% sure what the blood on her hands could be about.

[silverwings01]

Could it be killing wormtongue in ROTK?, the scouring of the shire is probably out, and there are rumours in the net about Eowyn killing wormtongue

I don't think Eowyn is going to be killing wormtongone. (though i'll admit it be funny to see her kill him after his whole 'shadowing her footsteps' stalking thing).

Also, in that picture, the colomn behind her is made of stone stalactite which would be from Helm's Deep.

I haven't re-read the shire scene at the end of ROTK yet, but I believe grima kills saruman (as he will in the movie no doubt) and then gets killed by a gang of hobbits. . .

But I could be wrong. . . . - stupid memory - :(

EDIT: added info to post

[Meriadoc Brandybuck]

No, you're right. Grima does kill Saruman and then gets killed himself by hobbit arrows. We're not sure if Peter Jackson is going to leave the Scouring of the Shire in or out. We sure hope he leaves it in; no matter what anyone says, but you never know. ;)

[Altáriel]

I found this on a web site that explains why Eowyn may kill wormtongue,I think is an interesting point of view:

"I got a chance to view the Director's Cut of the Fellowship of the Ring, which includes deleted scenes. There's a scene from the book that they put in - Galadriel giving parting gifts to the Fellowship. But there is one gift that they pointedly left out : Sam's mallorn seed, which is seen again when the Shire is scoured then rebuilt. The fact that they left out this one gift makes me think that it is not a mistake, and that Galadriel didn't give it to Sam because we're not going to see the hobbits return to the Shire. When you look at the Return of the King - the book comes to a natural climax when Frodo destroys the ring, and Aragorn is crowned. For these reasons, I think it's very possible that the movie is going to end when Aragorn is crowned, and Peter Jackson will just have the elves and Frodo leave from that point, ignoring the Scouring of the Shire alltogether.

So what does this have to do with Eowyn? Well there have been lots of rumors that Eowyn is going to kill Wormtongue in the third movie, instead of having Wormtongue and Sarumon in the Shire. Since it's highly possible that they're leaving out the last part of the book with the Shire, how else is Wormtongue going to be delt with? OK, so maybe this hope is a bit far-fetched for me to have, but Eowyn fans can only hope that she gets revenge on the slime that is Wormtongue!"

[ImDaMom]

if Eowyn kills Grima, Aragorn would be forced, as king, to punish her in some way, (ala Beregond in the book). This would be difficult, and could be a problem for the screenwriters. So, here's my take-could this be after she removes her helmet, and we see that she is indeed Dernhelm? The blood would be from the Battle of Pelennor, before she slays the witch king. Granted, her hair should be messier, but hey, we're dealing with a movie heroine here, and she'd have to look good.
Just a thought.

[Altáriel]

I have also found this pictures,from wich part do you think they might be?
http://www.heartstars.net/lotr/greendress.jpg
http://www.heartstars.net/lotr/eowynrunning.jpg
http://www.heartstars.net/lotr/hauntinghersteps.jpg

[Meriadoc Brandybuck]

The greendress one and the haunting her steps one is right before Eomer is banished in TTT. I think they cut out the one where she's running up the steps of Meduseld.
On the subject of the Scouring, I think that they might have cut out the part where Galadriel gives Sam the box of earth just for the sake of saving screentime. I think that they can still have the Scouring of the Shire without the box of earth. They could have the Shire heal itself; and again, they would save screentime in ROTK. That's just speculation, but you never know. ;)

[Bess the Bard]

Interesting pictures. I hadn't seen the one of Eowyn in the green dress before. I'm betting that's post-Helm's Deep, maybe in ROTK when she's told to stay home and mind the fort while the menfolk go off to war. (She definitely looks unhappy about something.) Where did this one come from?

The other two I recognize from TTT. The first one is Eowyn running up the stairs before she goes to Theodred's bedside for the first time. The second one is when Eomer is accusing Grima of "haunting the steps of my sister."

My two cents worth about the picture of Eowyn with blood on her hands. I think she is at Helm's Deep, you can see the caves in the background. She probably has been helping with the wounded, or maybe an orc has broken in and killed one of the Rohan villagers so Eowyn hunting the villain down. Something for the TTT Extended Edition, I hope.

[Kalimac]

Green Dress (http://www.heartstars.net/lotr/greendress.jpg)

This interesting picture (pointed out in post above) came from the NY Daily News right before the Two Towers came out back in December. Anyway, it's just the light that makes it look like a different dress. We have seen the dress before . . take a look:

Eowyn and Theoden (http://maidenfair.net/miranda/promo3.jpg)

Eowyn running up stairs (http://maidenfair.net/miranda/step.jpg)

Eowyn (http://maidenfair.net/miranda/queenspades.jpg)


Thanks to fran at COE for noticing this. :thumbs:

Of course, that doesn't answer the question of whether this is a cut scene or one in ROtK . . I'm suspecting a cut scene since
she does wear the dress in The Two Towers.

[Altáriel]

I think that the blood can't be of injured men, she's holding her sword, so it seems to me she had just killed someone, also the images that are supose to go before that one, she's holding her sword too and she doesn't have blood in her hands...

[Altáriel]

sorry for the doble posting,this is another pic from the same scene:
http://www.heartstars.net/lotr/eowyncaves.jpg

[TheRingBearer]

Yeah thats the one. Just before that shot ends, you can see the blood. It is definitely not orc blood so it must be TTT extended.

[Adunauriel]

It's got to be something that will show up in TTT extended version...;)

[Meriadoc Brandybuck]

Yea, I think TTT Extended all the way. ;)

[Altáriel]

Maybe you had seen this one already but it's awesome!!!
http://www.tolkienonline.com/gallery/gallery_item.cfm?ID=1800
it seems one Nazgul found himself with an angry lady!!!!;)

[TheRingBearer]

Wow that looks great. Then just add the thousands of cg dead soldiers and you have yourself a battlefield

[Adunauriel]

That's a really cool picture. I can't wait to see that part of the movie....:thumbs:

[ImDaMom]

COOOOOOOOLLLLLLL. That is SO awsome.

[ImDaMom]

(Sorry bout the double post) (And the possible spoiler) Eowyn and Grima. She can't really kill Grima, since he's now at Isengard, and unless the story REALLY changes, there's no reason for her to go there, let alone go inside, or for him to be allowed to return to Rohan. I sort of think that after he kills Saruman, Eomer's men or Legolas kills him, much like the hobbit archers killed him in the Scouring (which we all know isn't happening, for good or ill)

[Meriadoc Brandybuck]

The head's missing! Ahhhh! So excited! Really cool pic. :thumbs: Can't wait! ;)

[Adunauriel]

To me it still looks like the head is there... Althou, I could be wrong... It's a picture of the things the Wraiths ride, right? Anyways it's totaly cool....:grin: :thumbs:

[Kalimac]

No, actually the picture sited is misidentified . . it is NOT a fell beast that the nazgul ride . . it is a dead oliphaunt. If you look at the picture more closely you will see the 'carriage' thats strapped on its back . . remember in The Two Towers when Sam and Frodo were almost run over by the Oliphaunts . . there were men riding in the 'carriages' on top of the Oliphaunts . . it's an Oliphaunt . . perhaps a cut scene, or maybe it will be included in ROtK . . but it is not the fell beast. :p

[Keverzwijn]

Yeah, I was thinking the same about that pic. It's probaly an oliphaunt at the Pelenor fields.

[Narsil's weilder]

Yeah there should be alot of Oliphant action comming our way in ROTK. Hundreds of them!

[TheRingBearer]

wow a dead oliphant. What could kill it?

[Meriadoc Brandybuck]

lol It might be an Oliphaunt, but if it is, why is it black? Anyway, still cool pic. :thumbs:

[Adunauriel]

The 'carriage' as you call it, could also be the saddle thing that the Wraiths wride in on top of the beasts... :thumbs:

[Meriadoc Brandybuck]

Could be :thumbs: