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Kalimac
January 11th,2003, 06:40 PM
Massive SPOILERS Below

Here's an article with some pretty heavy spoilers for the plot line
for Return of the King . . proceed with caution.

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Empire Magazine

For want of less suggestive description, the three Lotr films have been building to a climax. The Return Of The King, the grand finale to Peter Jackson's monumental project, is where the shake-down finally occurs, where good and evil finally face off and the quest comes (sorry) to its conclusion. In movie terms this means part 3 will be massive: there are three separate battles (compared to Towers'one), Frodo and Sam reach the shattered earth of Mordor, and there is a final, devious twist in the tale. Put it this way, the mission both fails and succeeds.

"In film 3 the scale gets even bigger,"boasts executive producer Mark Ordesky."You get to see Minas Tirith, you get to go to Gondor, you see the mountain of fire. It gets progressivelly bigger."

Slowly all the separate narrative strands will knit back together again. Aragorn , with Gimli and Legolas, comences on the trail that leads him on his destiny-the throne of Gondor. As Mordor launches its attack on the forces of good, he will travell the Paths of the Dead to unite an army of, ostensible, living dead.
Gandalf and Pippin head on to Minas Tirith, capital of Gondor, where they find Boromir's father, Denethor (John Noble), has slipped into insanity. The city is plunged into crisis when their enemy lays siege outside the gates, equipped with catapults projecting the heads of fallen warriors over the walls. Merry joins the soldiers of Rohan in an almighty charge to come to Gondor's rescue, lead by Theoden and Eowyn, disguised as a male warrior. And all three parties will unite to fight a vast battle on the plains outside Minas Tirith.

"The battle scenes are going to be stunning," says Dan Hennah, the art director. " There's 250 real horses galloping with spears. I tell you, the energy of that is a pretty amazing sight. And you wait until you see Minas Tirith-you'll see the seven walls and the shining, white tower. Staggering stuff." For Frodo and Sam of course, things get gradually worse and worse. Betrayed by the conniving Gollum, they are attacked by an ancient , female CGI spider known as Shelob who guards a secret passage into Mordor.

Ultimately, it falls upon the broad shoulders of Sam to save them from disaster.

Jackson has already admitted that the books end-piece, the Scouring Of The Shire, has gone. This sequence, involving Saruman's corruption of the Hobbits' homeland was felt extraneous to central plot and has already been paid lip service as Frodo gazes into Galadriel's mirror in part 1.

Overall, expect something bigger in scope than even the previous two films-tens of thousands of Orcs, accompanied by Nazgul on Fell Beasts (pterodactyl-like creatures) laying waste to Gondor. It will also be far more intense (Frodo is all but destroyed by the power of the Ring), with every character having to confront their own demons before the end.

In fact, as visual effects supervisor Jim Rygiel puts it, you ain't seen nothing yet. "Simply," he smiles, "we have moved on ten-fold with The Two Towers, and The Return Of The King moves on ten-fold again..." And the oscar surely has to go to...?

IAN NATHAN

Ahreron
January 11th,2003, 07:05 PM
Ow mannnnnnnn I can't wait any longer!!! It's gonna rock!

Iarfirithwen
January 11th,2003, 07:22 PM
oooooo Pelennor Aaaaaa :whoohoo: can't wait. So now we know that Paths of the Dead are in.
And here is where I should go into spoiler-free mode (OMG can I do that for 11 months? Nothing but the trailers and the odd pic? Maybe I shoud have made it my New Years Resolution lol

Orkybash
January 11th,2003, 08:27 PM
Argh, I just can't go into Spoiler-Free mode for 11 months! Oh well, I stopped spoiling myself (lol) about 2 months away from TTT, that way I missed the REALLY major stuff, and still thoroughly enjoyed the movie! So I'm gonna eat up the spoilers for now, but when it gets down to the really bad stuff I'll go into spoiler-free mode.

I REALLY can't wait for this movie, though!

TheRingBearer
January 11th,2003, 09:31 PM
Oh yeah i've got that issue. It has about 30 pages of TT stuff :thumbs:

Stickman
January 11th,2003, 10:43 PM
Paths of the Dead! Pelennor! Mount Doom! ARGGGGGGG I can't wait! 11 months is still too far away...

By the way, three battles? I'm guessing Pelennor, the one at the Black Gates, and the one at the ports? (i think it was Pelargir). If so, how are they gonna show that battle, in flashback? Because i really don't think they will spoil the surprise of Aragorn arriving at the battle...

I think they might show the battle until it seems that Aragorn is losing, and then they will just cut to Pelennor for a long time until the ships arrive. After all, there's a lot to keep your mind at, like Eowyn vs WK, and the whole Faramir/Denethor stuff.

And i think i'm gonna follow Orkybash, i'll go spoiler free sometime around when the soundtrack come out... seems so far away! But i'm sure that by then i'll have my TTT extended edition to pass time with... :)

Orkybash
January 12th,2003, 02:59 AM
Sorry to break it to you Stockman, but I've heard reports that the extended TTT is gonna be delayed until after RotK! At least we already know there will be one, though!

And yeah, I really hope they don't ruin the surprise of Aragorn arriving with the ships! That was my second favorite moment in the entire Pelennor battle! (First being, of course, Eowyn and the witch king!)

Lady Ashley
January 12th,2003, 03:51 AM
WHAT!? DELAYED UNTIL AFTER ROTK!!?? No way!!!

EEEEE!!! I hope that's only rumor!

Stickman
January 12th,2003, 04:52 AM
What the hell!?!?!? After Rotk!?!?!? I'm gonna go nuts!!!!! That is totally unfair... Gonna have to settle with the regular one then...

And i totally agree with you about Eowyn vs the WK. That's my favorite part of the book, with the Mount Doom stuff as well as my favorite. Close seconds are the "corsairs" arrival and the Grey Havens. I also like a lot the Scouring, but i can kinda understand why it's been left out.

I know i'm not the first to ask this, but is everyone sure that no one has invented a time machine yet??? Any information would be useful, thanks :)

Iarfirithwen
January 12th,2003, 05:21 AM
Oh no *shakes head is disbelief* would they really delay the special extended edition of TTT :nono: I could handle iit if that means they don't bring out a 3rd release a year later (I'd be unhappy if they brought the theatrical release, and SEE this year and yet another release next year...that really would suck after forking out money for the SEE).

Oh yeh Orkybash I hope they don't ruin the surprise. I hope they cut from the Aragorn and battle for the ships when it looks like they're losing (like Stickman suggested). And then cut back to Pelennor where it looks like everything is failing (Theoden and 'Eowyn' dead; Denethor loosing it and trying to kill Faramir; Faramir near death from the Nazgul; The pelennor fields going badly, something bad happening in Mordor at the same (i.e., looks like Frodo and Sam wont make it, dead frodo maybe) - you know losing on all fronts everything seems pointless Sauron's going to win, and then surprise Aragorn turns up and the tides turn. That would be the most brilliant contrast in emotions it would be AWESOME Arrrrrrggggg.
notworthy Oh pleeeeeeeaaaase Tolkien gods may it be this way notworthy

Yes Eowyn (& Merry) vs the Witch King!!! :whoohoo: Favourite part, can't wait (if you hadn't guessed already lol )
oh I know I'm assuming with what I said before a quick sail up the river but hell it'll work for the movie :grin:

Stickman
January 12th,2003, 05:26 AM
How many days left? 11 months and 5 days, right? We should start a countdown...

When do you think the first trailer will come out? Will there be a special preview attached to TTT in march, as last year? What do you think the teaser poster will look like?

Personally, i hope they make a poster out of that great pic of Aragorn in full Gondorian armor. I would definitely buy that. It explains the title all by itself! (for those still not familiar with the king)

TheRingBearer
January 12th,2003, 12:38 PM
I think I'll start a countdown thread once the new clockdown clock for ROTK is released on the net :thumbs:

Little Devil
January 12th,2003, 04:44 PM
Yay!! I love those clockdown clocks, Thanx loadz RB ;)

TheRingBearer
January 12th,2003, 06:28 PM
Just checked clockdown. No word yet. I think it'll be there with about 250 days left or something?

Huan the Hound
January 12th,2003, 08:17 PM
I don't care for the countdown clocks because I don't want it to ever end! These last few years have given me something to really look forward to. Not that I don't have a life (I do) but it's that the whole world of Middle-Earth has a very special place in my heart and these films have brought the story to many other people that haven't or wouldn't have ordinarily read the books. :)

As for the spoilers, I seems that everything will be as good as we hope. :hooray:

Iarfirithwen
January 13th,2003, 12:20 AM
The count down clock at CountingDown.com (http://countingdown.com/movies/returnoftheking) is up and running.
As of this moment its:

338 Days, 8 Hours, 46 min, 10 sec
to go

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Ah no, :nono: something is screwy with that clock. Whenever I open the page it starts off at 338 days, 8 hours, 50 min and 33 sec to go :huh: :nono: OMG! Its never going to get released. Its always going to be 338 days away Ahhhhhhhhhh lol