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The Mystic
July 2nd,2002, 04:08 PM
Reguarding the small people of the wonderful piece of fantasy Willow, written by George Lucas, could the people which Willow Offgood (is that the correct spelling of his last name?) is part of be somewhat based on the Hobbits? though there are some interesting details that do in fact seperate them, keep in the mind that first, the Hobbits are not really warriors, nor are the (lets just call them Little Folk for now?) Little Folk. The Hobbits and Little Folk do not go out on adventures. And lastly take into consideration that Lucas writes about the story of Willow rather than that of the story as a whole, we follow one of the Little Folk just as we do Bilbo in The Hobbit, and we follow Frodo in Lord of the Rings.

~ The Mystic ~

AlienFX007
July 2nd,2002, 04:59 PM
Well, I had never thought of that before, and it's an interesting theory, but in this instance I think it's just coincidence. Really, the only LoTR-Willow link is the little people bit. But Willow, unlike Bilbo, went into the adventure not because he was wholly tricked into it, but because he realized he had to save the baby (inate goodness), and the fact that there were monsters along the way is just the way a fantasy movie goes. Also, Bilbo's story in the hobbit is a tad more childish I thihk than Willow's story is. Compare the motivations of Bilbo and Willow, and I think that Lucas was not influenced, in this instance, by Tolkien's Hobbit.

Sindarin
July 4th,2002, 10:36 PM
I think that Lucas may have been influenced somewhat, but just look the Star Wars movies - tons of LOTR references.

Bonos-Girl
July 5th,2002, 10:32 AM
if anyone got empire magazine last year (the one with the 2 lotr covers) they had this whole thingh about why lucas should sue tolkein...ummm!!!!

Catz
July 5th,2002, 01:06 PM
i dont think theres a fantasy movie or book out that hasnt been influenced to some extent by Tolkien....its a very pervasive influence, and quite unconcious in most cases....LOTR has just become part of the fantasy vernacular....
And shouldnt that be the other way around BG? lol

Bonos-Girl
July 5th,2002, 07:16 PM
that was the point....i think...at least that's how they put it in the mag...

Fatty
July 5th,2002, 07:30 PM
I agree about Lucas, but no bad thing I would say. Though I cannot understand the appeal of Willow. I just thought not another terribley embaressing fantasy film. BUt there you go .horses for courses........one mans meat is another mans poison.........I won't go on. Lest catz belittle me. ;-)

Willow fans no hate mail please. :-)

Catz
July 6th,2002, 12:31 AM
:elfeek: Who....moi?????:naughty::wicked: .....(youre not wearin' your kilt are you????) ;) lol roflmao lol
actually :shhh: i quite agree with you Fatty....i just wasnt gonna say so....lol....i get tired of being pelted with rotten fruit for saying i didnt like Willow....its bad enough with Higlander.... ;) ...but its OK now....i can hide behind you!!:cool: lol
:catz:

Ronin
July 11th,2002, 10:52 PM
*looks with arched eyebrow*...long live Highlander :naughty:

long ago, in a far away galaxy, George Lucas tried to get a hold of the rights to The Hobbit. thankfully, the beared and plaid one couldn't get Christopher to sign away the rights...and Georgie was stuck without a Hobbit to film. But guess what he did...bingo! Willow!

personally, i don't love the film...just enjoy calling it the Hobbit...saber style. umm...without the sabers ;)

Catz
July 12th,2002, 04:06 AM
....so we just wont go into the Highlander thing, OK?lol :rolleyes:
thats the trouble.....Willow is so damn derivitive....it had its moments, but they cant erase the feeling youve seen it all before...its just so chock full of cliches, visual, story wise and stylistically....pity really.....
:catz:

legolaslover
July 24th,2002, 09:57 PM
I think he and a lot of fantasy writers were inspired by the great works of Tolkien. Tolkien made the story just so he could support his language (elvish). I think all writers want to be as good as Tolkien. I know that if I was a writer I would try to be as creative and life-like as Tolkien's works were. :elfqueen: