The Two trees

[Deariad]

I am new to the Silmarillion story, and I believe that my question could be answered through it, though, I was wondering if you could fill me in as to what the origins of The Two Trees are all about. Where ar ethey located? Who Planted them? What is their significance?, etc. Anything. Thanks.

[Undomiel]

Basically they werent exactly planted (sounds crazy but i will explain) Yavanna (one of the Valar) sang and the trees came into being and started to grow. Telperion came first and he was a silver tree and Laurelin came second and she was golden. They both gave out light and they were more beautiful than any other trees ever basically. They were grown in Aman, or Valinor and they lit the land. They were pretty important, just as a symbol of beauty and goodness. I guess they were holy in a way, though perhaps that isnt quite the right word, but they were amazing to look on and revered.

[Deariad]

notworthy Hey Thanks for your input,like I said I have not yet read the Sil, but the topic of the trees has always interested me. Tell me, is it because they were thought Holy the reaon why Morgoth and Ungoliant poisoned them?

[Mirkgirl]

mostly to feed Ungoliant
In a ravine she lived, and took shape as a spider of monstrous form, weaving her black webs in a cleft of the mountains. There she sucked up all light that she could find, and spun it forth again in dark nets of strangling gloom, until no light more could come to her abode; and she was famished.
Therefore Melkor said to her: 'Do as I bid; and if thou hunger still when all is done, then I will give thee whatsoever thy lust may demand. Yea, with both hands
Then the Unlight of Ungoliant rose up even to the roots of the Trees, and Melkor sprang upon the mound; and with his black spear he smote each Tree to its core, wounded them deep, and their sap poured forth as it were their blood, and was spilled upon the ground. But Ungoliant sucked it up, and going then from Tree to Tree she set her black beak to their wounds, till they were drained; and the poison of Death that was in her went into their tissues and withered them, root, branch, and leaf; and they died. And still she thirsted, and going to the Wells of Varda she drank them dry; but Ungoliant belched forth black vapours as she drank, and swelled to a shape so vast and hideous that Melkor was afraid.
That should answer most of your questions for now, butmy advice is to read the Silm.

[Undomiel]

yep definitely-you can't really understand the power and beauty of the trees until you've read it for yourself. I think also Melkor poisoned them because he envied the beauty and peace of Valinor. He was malicious.

[Deariad]

:whoohoo: Hey you all I picked up the Sil this weekend and just started into it last night. I have only read the first chapter, and I am on to The Beginning of Days. The stories are wonderful especially that of the Creation of the Earth and Aule, and the Maia (the maia are some of my favorites characters). It is wonderful, though a little hard to read at first, wonderful nonetheless.

[Undomiel]

yeah that's how i felt. I definitely founf it got easier to read as i went along. You sorta immerse yourself in the language.

[Gwaihir]

I was so sad and shocked when I first read the chapter where the Trees get killed. mecry It was terrible to have their lights sucked up by Ungoliant! I hate Morgoth! verymad I'm still glad, though, that they could make the sun and moon out of them. :)

[Undomiel]

Yeah but it was so sad- and then Feanor deciding that he wouldnt give them a silmaril :( (even if he wouldnt have been able to coz of Morgoth, i still think he made the wrong choice)

[Tirithel]

Feanor was such a meanie-head- I he had every right to teasure the Silmarils- they were his. But he forgot that he made them using the tress of Yavanna. It's wierd to think that he's an elf and not a man. I always imagine elves as kind of these high and mighty enlightened beings, ya know, free from evil and jealousy and hate and the like. But I guess without the introduction of conflict there would be no story now, would there?

[Mirkgirl]

Well that's debatable... but anyway not here.... the thread here is about the two trees, not about Feanor... Check out this thread (Feanor was Nuts! (http://warofthering.net/forums/vbulletin225/upload/showthread.php?s=&threadid=2415)) Tirithel

[Gil Galad]

so how r u finding the sil Gwaihir,personally i think its the best book ever

[Alatar]

I am almost finished it, at first it is sort of boreing and you get confused with all the names but once past the creation of the earth it is realy enjoyable to read it is one of my favourites now:thumbs: next is Unfinished Tales

[Gil Galad]

yeh id recomend the unfinished tales, there very good