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Morgothian
February 14th,2003, 05:01 AM
could someone tell me how much more powerful Morgoth was than Sauron i am just curious.
Finrod Felagund
February 14th,2003, 05:00 PM
Sauron was Morgoth's servant and second in command...

In Christian terms, Morgoth would be like Satan and Sauron just a powerful demon IMO
Thorongil
February 14th,2003, 09:44 PM
although over time morgoth became less powerful because every time he commited an evil deed his powers were diminished. I got the feeling that in the end Sauron was almost as powerful as Morgoth.
Elven Beauty
February 15th,2003, 03:23 AM
yea Finrod and Thorongil. You guys are right. Morgoth was 'the evil' in Middle Earth. Sauron learned everything from him, so IMO Morgoth was a lot more powerful than Sauron, or at least to begin with.
Tar-Palantir
February 18th,2003, 04:13 PM
Well, in the beginning Melkor was the most powerful being (next to Ilúvatar) ever to exist. But after a while since his rebellions he lost most of his power.
The same thing happend with Sauron, he lost a great part of his native strengh when he forged the One Ring.

That may teach us that evil just gets weaker and weaker all the time.
Lalaith
February 18th,2003, 07:14 PM
Morgoth was the more powerful but the only reason Suaron didn't exceed his master's strength was because he spent many years serving another - ie: he was under Morgoth's command and not his own. Morgoth served no one.
roguefrog
February 20th,2003, 07:01 AM
Melkor is the foremost and most powerful out of all the Ainur. But he is evil and alone until he corrupts servants such a Sauron, a former maiar of Aule as stated in the Valaquenta. As for him getting weaker, not sure. All I know is the rest of the Valar gang bang him.
Elven Beauty
February 20th,2003, 10:42 PM
*lol*.. yeah
Elven Beauty
February 20th,2003, 10:46 PM
I said "*LOL*" not :D ok?
Finrod Felagund
February 21st,2003, 01:14 PM
Gangbang???? well maybe gang tackle but ... gangbang...
Elven Beauty
February 22nd,2003, 01:24 AM
L O L... sorry the term 'gangbang' makes me laugh. Bringing Tolkien's characters of great power down to a lower level just sounds funny...
Sindarin
February 22nd,2003, 02:29 AM
lol That's just nasty, Samwise. lol Yet hilarious. ;)

roflmao
roguefrog
February 22nd,2003, 10:20 AM
not what I had in mind...:rolleyes:
Lady Melody
February 22nd,2003, 12:57 PM
Well, you guys have pretty much answered the question, but I'll just put it into simpler terms;

Morgoth/Melkor = Valar

Sauron = Maia
(Pretty much akin to the Balrog)

and that, is that.
Elven Beauty
February 23rd,2003, 01:36 AM
hey, I did not say it, roguefrog did! :D
roguefrog
March 2nd,2003, 11:39 AM
Pardon my choice of words.
Bawax
March 2nd,2003, 11:40 AM
gangbang? and people think i'm bad? ;) lol

i can't say anything new on the matter, if it were sauron vs Melkor in a fight, melkor would destroy him, mind you Huan the hound thing did sauron in as well so he can't have been that great. :)
Aragorn Isildur
March 2nd,2003, 12:24 PM
Yes but Huan was great *gets out pompoms*

Aragorn:king:
Bawax
March 7th,2003, 08:16 PM
Huan was ok for a big dog, that just shows me how rubbish Sauron was. :)
Finrod Felagund
March 10th,2003, 01:34 PM
Also, According to JRR in one of his letters, "Sauron had his One Ring while the whole of ME was Morgoth's Ring"