French - the language of love...

[Pil]

I am continuing to take french next year and i was wondering whether anyone else loves the language too? :loveyou:

(P.S. is it possible to get a little frenchy smilie?)

[AlienFX007]

I HATE french--with a passion.

I took french for two years and spanish for five years (and I'll take spanish another four or five years), and if I ever have to intentionally mutter french EVER again, I will simply KILL myself. It sounds like they are spitting everywhere, or there is something stuck in their throat and there's letters ALL OVER THE PLACE where there is absolutely postively NO NEED WHATSOEVER for them to be there. Let's take, for example, the following sentence:

Quel est le nom de ce chien? Qu'avez-vous dit?
What is that dog's name? What did you say?

Now, pronounce that sentence like it is:

Quel est le nom de ce chien? Qu'avez-vous dit?

Let's ignore all the 'postrophes and dashes, too.

Now, pronounce that sentence like it is:

Quel ay luh nom duh suh she-in? Ka vay voo deet?

Yah. But you have to say it like it is while spitting all over the place, otherwise they'll know that you're American.

Lousy french language!

[Ilmarë]

French is okay..... but Italian...now there's a wonderfully sexy language!!! :naughty:

:elfqueen:

[Mirkgirl]

I don't like the sound of French and it's reputation of language of the languages makes me almost hate it, even though I don't waste hatred on languages and stuff.

But I actually almost enjoy the sound of German (self-suggestion maybe ;) ) which is probably strange.....

I like the sound of Spanish and Italian too

And I love the sound of Bulgarian, lol

[A! Elbereth]

I myself hate Spanish with a passion..... Its the MESSIEST, FOULEST, and UGLIEST to the ears...than any language I've tred to speak.... I'm sticking to French because my school has either that, German, or Latin (yeeuck) But i like french... I think its a sexy language

[Pil]

WELL!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thank you A! Elbereth!

FRENCH RULES!!!!! :loveyou:

[Bonos-Girl]

it does????? what school do you go to???? ypou did have mrs gulliver for 3 years didn't you???? how can you *like* french????

[Lady Arien]

I really wanted to take French in high school, I think it's a beautiful language....but since I live in Southern California, and have yet to be confronted with an overwhelming influx of refugees from the City of Light, it's a good thing that I settled for Spanish....of course, I also took Latin, too, so at least I can somewhat understand it....too late for me to get the "ear," though, alas...........

[Pil]

I SWEAR A! ELBERETH! YOU SOOOOOOOO SOME TO OUR SCHOOL!!! Our choices were french, german or latin too. I think that latin would be handy if i was going for a classics degree or summut, but to be an astronomer apparently you need to be fluent in a MODERN language (don't ask me why! lol)

I think italian is nice too...more...sexy, rather than romantic... :naughty:

[Bonos-Girl]

why do you need a modern language pil??????? doesn't make sense to me.....

[A! Elbereth]

Makes sense to mepfbbt

[Mirkgirl]

Fools! You don't need a modern language, you need a time machine

[Pil]

TIME MACHINE??????? :huh:

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOK! lol

Bonos-girl, apparently you need to be able to communicate with astronomers all over the world so that they will be nice and share their telescopes! :)

[Bonos-Girl]

can't you just get a translator person or something???

[Pil]

I didn't say i actually UNDERSTOOD the concept! lol roflmao

[Bonos-Girl]

yeah...i know...i was wondering if anyone else knew why

[Pil]

French is sooo much easier to understand (as in learn) than german. i haven't had experience with anything else other than latin, so i can't make much of a judgement on spanish and italian etc. What do others think? :)

[Bonos-Girl]

quenya is easier than most other languages...

[Pil]

For those who learn it, is italian easy to pick up? :p

[HobbitFriend]

i think it would be fun to learn Elvish... ~kinda random~ :p

[Catz]

actually i found German easier than French....tho im a lousy linguist so thats kind of immaterial lol lol
but overall i think i agree with Ilm.....Italian is a really sexy language ;) and probably no more difficult than French....
:catz:

[Lady Arien]

I took Latin, and Spanish, and two of my best friends were Italian with parents and/or grandparents from the Old Country....although it took careful listening, I was always pretty much able to figure out what they were saying (especially when Lucia's mom was yelling at us)....the basics are pretty much the same as Spanish, that is, Latin-based, so if you're familiar with Latin, Italian is pretty easy to pick up...I found French a bit harder because of the accent, but when it comes to ballet terms, I find I can still remember most of them!

[Pil]

I've been learning french since year three (though you couldn't tell!) :p I find the accent comes naturally when speaking french...but i can't speak english in a french accent...hmmm... :huh:

So you think i could have an advantage learning italien cos i've done two years of latin? :wiggle:

[Nessa the Dancer]

I'm half French, and i have to say that I love the language, even though I can't speak it very well, I like hearing it (leaving out all the er's).

[Nessa]

I'm going into my third year of French, and I plan on pursuing it until I am fluent....we'll see how that goes! ;)

[Lurtz]

A! Elbereth must be french...(gotta go back on the replies a bit to know what i am talking about lol roflmao lol)...i wouldn't really mind the french or there language if it wasn't for two reasons: 1. you have to hold your nose and flare your nostrils at the same time to speak it...and 2, to live in france or be french (no offense to anyone out there) you have to be so full of yourself that you are about to blow up

[Nessa]

OUCH, lurtz. :)

I've heard that French people from France are quite nice, but I've met a few French Canadians I'd rather not have. I'm not being stereotypical, though, there were plenty of perfectly nice people up in Montreal as well....

[Pil]

LURTZ!!!!!:archer:

Have you actually BEEN to france?! I've been there about eleven times and every time i have been treated to meeting really nice, polite, well dressed people.

And WHERE are YOU from then...earth? I heard there are some pretty nasty people living there! :angry: :batty: :dragon:

[Lurtz]

LOL! there was a french priest at a church i occasionally go to, and he is the meanest, nastiest frenchman you could have ever met...also, i have some really mean french neighbors who moved here from france and won't ever quit w/ the "in France the sky is much bluer, the girls are hotter, and the sun is warmer!"pfbbt

[Pil]

Its all true! Dunno bout the girls, but the guys are DEFINITELY MUCH hotter! They're soo nice to women...makes a change from the essex lad...sigh disappointedly... lol :p

Oooooo...this is my 666th post...:evil: :wicked: :evilcool: :elfeek:

[Nessa]

Oooooh, congratulations, Pil!

I think American men are quite hot indeed, thank you. ;)

[Pil]

I met a guy in Florida called Chad! lol Okay...bad name...great guy... *sigh* :loveyou:

[Kwijibo]

I'm taking French for another two years now for GCSE, but if you think french is bad, you should try Welsh! We're being forced to take Welsh next year because it's our '1st language'.
I'm probably the last person to say this, but I don't think they should force us to take a dying language, there are only 3 or 4 major cities left here where they speak it all day every day. We've got Welsh comprehensive schools here, so I think it should be a matter of choice whether you take the language or not.

Ok, I've finished ... :mmmm: ... I'm calm ... BTW I do like French AND I've had a look at a Quenya course I found on line and it does seem pretty simple to grasp!

[ElFLaDy]

French is mad hard... I'm taking it now but i got used to so it's not that hard now.

[Bonos-Girl]

arghh...i forgot htis thr3ead even existed! lol i had my French oral on Monday and it went so so wrong....i have writing, reading and listening tests today...fun fun fun! lol

[Pil]

lol *reading through this thread* This was SUCH long time ago!!! :p

Yeah mine stuffed up too BG.....i apoligised to the french dude who was listening to the oral for butchering his language and he laughed :grin:

I'm so gonna fail these tests today! :o

[Feebeefi]

I think French is ok but i dropped it and took German(only coz my dad goes around saying stuff to me in german and i want to understand him;) )but my friend and i are teaching ourselves Spanish and Russian.Spanish is ok but Russian is so cool so at school if i want to annoy someone i speak to them in russianlol ;)

[Radagast]

Grand fil ! ! !
J'aime le français. Je l'ai parlé depuis que j'avais 13 ans. Pil, avez-vous un bon professeur français ? C'est vraiment important

[Bonos-Girl]

yech...je deteste mon prof de francais...j'adore ecrire et parler le langue mais pas en les course de francais....and i have no idea if that said what i wanted it to say....i hate having a bad teacher./...makes it so much harder to learn...

[Saruman]

French is quite easy to write, but I have my orals on Tuesday. I have been told that I am a good linguist. I have replied, 'no'. lol I find it amusing that to say something like 95 you have to say 'four twenties and a fifteen'.
The best language is, of course, Latin; it is just so logical, and can be used effectively in both straightforward accounts and poetry. It also makes most other languages much easier to understand.

[Radagast]

Hey Saruman! Do you speak latin?? Im taking classes in Latin... Ego Pulcra est... lol lol

Oh well back to the french-

Quel est votre film français préféré ? Je pense que le mien est le dessin animé Asterix et Obelix... Je pense qu'ils sont drôles lol

[Bonos-Girl]

i had to do latin for 2 years and i hates it so much...it made no sense to me to be forced to learn a dead language...i know it helps with other languages and stuff...but i still don't realy understand the point! lol

moi, mon film francais prefere c'est "le pacte des loups".....c'etait tres bien mais j'ai regarde ca en francais et je ne comprend pas la plupart de la film!

ps. sorry bout the massacring (that is a word...honst!) of your language if you're french...lol

[Feebeefi]

My friend was made to do Latin but because she was so bad at it they kicked her put of it!lol roflmao lol roflmao That was so funny when she told me!

[Bawax]

i tried learing a bit of french but i gave it up, i know a dozen phrases in german so do i really need to know more languages?

i'd like to learn italian but i'm too lazy. :grin:

[Tirithel]

Se mas Espanol a el Francais. Lo siento!

I know about eight gagillion songs in twenty different languages, but that's about the extent of my linguistic capabilities. I'm singing one in French right now, and it's the hardest stuff to pick up and pronounce...I understood MONGOLIAN better. Oy vey.

[OBsession]

Ke-ora,

I love the sound of French but I Luuuuurve the sound of spanish and Maori so I'm learning those. I've already learnt Maori but I don't start Spanish until next year. I gave up learning French after two years - because my French teacher gave me food poisoning. But I still think it's beautiful.

[Striderfan]

Wow, I don't visit the Prancing Pony Forum for 3 weeks and the most awesome thread comes up in my absence!! :elfeek: I just have to say that I LOVE french!!!! :loveyou: I've taken it for 5 years, and I'm in AP french now :hyper:....which I must say is an extremely difficult class and I'm scared to death of the AP exam in May, but the language is amazing and so is my most awesome teacher....;) That's funny, Pil, but I have the same problem you were mentioning a while back–I can speak french in a pretty decent accent but I cannot, for the LIFE of me, speak english in a french accent!! :o ...it just somehow turns out sounding scottish or something...lol ;)

J'adore le Francais, je pense que c'est un petit peu difficile pour les autres qui n'ont pas d'experiance avec la langue, et aussi il y a toujours les problemes au sujet de la prononcation et de l'orthographe (ca c'est mon diable! ;) ), mais c'est une belle langue malgre ces choses ;)...mais je n'aime pas les garcons francais...je pense que ils sont un peu...comment dit-on..."forward?" Tu pense?? :huh:

[Elegant Elf]

Je parle un peu...

ahhhh but it's been a LONG time, and if you don't use it, you lose it....je pense ;)

[Bonos-Girl]

non....je pense que les garcons francais sont pas trop "forward" (i don';t know the word either...lol)....je ne sais pas...mais...je pense que les garcons anglais "can be" un peu "forward" aussi...et les garcons de les pays autres...

yes...that got awful towards the end...but i'm in a hurry cos i need to wash my haior and go to bed soon lol

[Striderfan]

Maybe I shouldn't talk, considereing I've only met one french boy before....hmmmm...never mind, don't listen to me!! lol ;)

Have any of you taken the AP French exam or any other really huge french exam??? I'm kinda worried about mine....

Qu-est ce que tu fais??? Il n'y a pas du feu!! :elfeek: (a strange french exclamation we learned in French 3 ;) )

[Bonos-Girl]

care to explain? lol

[Striderfan]

What, the expression?? lol

Well, according to my French 3 book which was probably was made in the 80s and includes such words as "hyper-cool" (to be pronounced "Heeepear cooelll" lol ), that expression "There is no fire" is supposed to be like, "calm down", like "don't worry about the car hanging over the side of the sheer cliff at a precarious angle....there is no fire!" ;)

[Bonos-Girl]

ahh...right...rather than just stating the obvious lol it all sudden;ly makes sense...hey..that's weird...i'm listening to a song called "baby's on fire"....hm...coincidence lol

most've my french expressions are quel somethung...like "quelle domage" and stuff.....there are so many you can say....for everything...lol

[Fëalossë]

I take French in high school. Of course, I live in Canada, and have three French stations on cable (for the SEVEN francophones living in this province), I take French in school (not because I want to, but you can't get a decent job in this country without knowing French, unless you want to be a rig pig, which is someone who works on the oil rigs and makes more money than all people with education), we have FRENCH on all our cereal boxes, FRENCH instructions for every product we can buy, a FRENCH side on every food product, AND EVERYBODY IN OUR GOVERNMENT SPEAKS FRENCH!!! IT DRIVES US ALL CRAZY!!!! WESTERN SEPERATISM!

Si les Québecois ont pensé qu'ils doivent avoir un état sovereigne...verymad

p.s. I love the language, though.:grin:

p.p.s. What's an AP exam?

[Tar-Vanimelde]

An AP is an exam that, if you get a good enough score on, can give you college credit in the subject it is taken for. You generally have to take the AP class as well, which is super hard. I'm in AP/IB french right now, et je ne sais pas si l'examen de AP est tres difacile, mais ma soeur m'a dit non. Mais elle est en Paris cette annee etudie a la Sorbonne, donc je ne pense pas qu'elle est une bonne personne de demander mon question.
J'adore la langue, c'est trop belle pour les mots.
<<Dans le fond se foret votre image me suit
la lumier du jour, les ombres de la nuit>>

J'essaie de lire le seigneur des anneaux en francais, mais c'est diffacile!

#Vani

[Bonos-Girl]

je voudrais lire le seigneur des anneaux en francauis mais je n'ai pas ca...if anyopne wants to send me one....or a link to it.....lol

[Fëalossë]

Vous pouvez l'achêter dans amazon.ca! Not that I'm advertising or anything, but that's the only place I've ever found it. I don't know if they ship out of country, though, assuming that you live out of Canada.

I've never heard of an AP exam before... Guess it's just because I live over here.

[thehobbitelf]

I am in French 1 at my high school.. I love the language it's so pretty! I just ordered the LoTR box set in French a few days ago... lol

[Striderfan]

Fealosse–AP exams are an American phenomenon (i.e. a cruel torture!! ;) )...it makes me sad...:( I love the AP class because we have a great teacher and only 4 other students, but I wish I didn't have to take the exam...:(

Oh! le seigneur des anneaux en francais!!! :elfeek: Le cadeaux parfait pour moi!! Je dois demander a ma mere si elle peut l'acheter pour moi pour Noel...;)

[Tar-Vanimelde]

Je l'aime bien, mais quelque fois c'est diffacile de lire. Voila un passage:

<<Il y eut un long silence. Gandalf se rassit et tira sur sa pipe, comme perdu dans ses pensees. Ses yeux semblaient fermes, mais de sous ses paupieres, il observait Frodon avec attention. Frodon, lui, regardait fixement les braises de l'atre, au point qu'elles emplissaient toute sa vision et qu'il parassait plonger le regard dans de profondes fontaines ardents. Il pensait aux legendaires Crevasses du Destin et a la terruer de la Montagne de Feu>>

et en Anglais

"There was a long silence. Gandalf sat down again and puffed at his pipe, as if lost in thought. His eyes seemed closed, but under the lids he was watching Frodo intently. Frodo gazed fixedly at the red embers on the hearth, until they filled all his vision, and he seemed to be looking down into profound wells of fire. He was thinking of the fabled Cracks of Doom and the terror of the Fiery Mountain"

Qu'est-ce que pensez vous?

#Vani

[thehobbitelf]

Yeah I don't plan on reading it all right now, I will take it bit by bit as I go along you know? I am only a French 1! :)

[Bonos-Girl]

wow...i'm really pleased with myself....i understood most of the first half....can't be bothered to read the whole passage at the moment....but i'll be back to decypher the rest ;)

understanding french is so much more easy that speaking/writing it./....i alwasy get really huigh marks for the listening and reading papers and low ones for the writing and speaking parts of the test

[thehobbitelf]

i get really good marks on all of it, but i get nervous when I have to speak it... i dont know why though!

[Fëalossë]

I find it quite hard to listen to, actually. They slur and shortcut just as much as we do. I like to watch the French news just because they talk more about world events, as opposed to in Canada or the United States, than either the Anglo-Canadian channels or the American ones (respectively). But I never understand more than half of it, so I always watch it with closed captions.

[Pil]

I always found listening the hardest, and reading to a lesser extent. I can kinda produce french in writing and speaking, but when it comes to understanding a french person speaking it it's a whole other ball game, especially if you're actually IN france. I mean, on the listening tapes and stuff i think they do kinda slow down, in the difficult bits anyway, but of course real french speakers dont do that, so it can be hard for my little language-challenged brain. lol

[Tar-Vanimelde]

BG- congrats on understanding it, the tense is weird and everything (who uses passe simple anymore?) so good job :thumbs:
I love reading french, but writing...well, let's just say it's not my strong point. And the worst of it is our final is supposed to be next thurdsday but I'm leaving early so I have to take it this Friday!! :elfeek: I'm freaking out, it is a two hour test with a huge grammer and writing section and only a little reading comp. AHH! I feel totally unprepaired. :(

#Vani

[Fëalossë]

I know a lot of French people who are from Québec and they tell me that most of the time, if they're writing to each other informally, they'll write in English, because it's so much easier.

One would think that if a person was actually in France (or Québec) it would be somewhat easier to understand than you'd think, because if they see you struggling to understand them, they'll slow down and pronounce better, just like any of us would do.

Unless, of course, they're all as snobby as I've heard they are. But I'm sure that's not true.

[thehobbitelf]

I GOT MY BOOKS! Yay!!! I got them yesterday... they are the LoTR Trilogy in FRENCH! WHOO HOOO! I am so excited.. its like christmas came early LOL

[Bonos-Girl]

lucky....i haven;t actually got round to asking my parents yet so i might just have to get a cpoy after christmas...lol

i hate tenses...it's esaier when translating cos you can generally tell what tense it is even if you don't know the verb construction and stuff...it just makes sense...well...tpo me anyway....that's my main problem with the speaking and writing...i hate learning tenses and stuff..i mean...who actually cares about future tense...much easier to use je vais...lol

[Vanyë]

hi all :)
i like french...probly becuz i can make the sounds easier than most ppl. i learn by listening and mimicking the sounds. i'm pretty good at it. :blush:
but i don't like spanish. it's good when i want to mouth off to someone. :naughty:

[Fëalossë]

Apparently I'm good at mimicking sounds, too. Lots of people completely butcher French when they're learning it. I get a kick out of that. lol

[Tar-Vanimelde]

I'm ok, except when I get nervous, so reciting poems in class is torture.
Yah, I know what you mean about tenses BG. I have my French midterm tomorrow (AHHHHH!!) and I've been reviewing the plus-que-parfait and futur anterior and all that junk. Ugh, who needs it anyway? But I still love french, no matter how much I complain :grin:
the- hey, thehobbitelf, you have cool initials lol I hope you like the books :thumbs:

#Vani

[thehobbitelf]

lol thanks Tar... I've had the nickname "thehobbitelf" for a long time now, and everyone refers to me as THE cause its easier to type :p I like the books... I will like them even better when I can really read them LoL...

I am pretty good at making the french sounds, but I get nervous when I have to do it in fron tof my teacher and my class so I mess up and make an arse of myself *used to it* lol but it's ok, I'm only in my first year... I happen to like verb tenses... I dunno i just like learning hehe

[Tar-Vanimelde]

I'm glad you like french. I'm in Florida, so everyone is learning spanish, there is quite a gap in the numbers of students in Sp vs Fr. I encourage everyone to take french! I bet you'll be able to read your books before you know it. ;)

#Vani

[thehobbitelf]

Yeah being in Florida and learning French could be a disadvantage, BUT Louisanna is near by ;) Lol... I hope i CAN read the books soon because I love French, and I love LoTR, so I figured 'why not put the two things I love most together?" Lol :p

[Tar-Vanimelde]

Exactly! That's how I felt.
I don't plan on staying in Fl long anyways, so it doesn't matter that much. :p

#Vani

[thehobbitelf]

Lol... my mom, step-dad, 2 step-bros, and I go on vacation to Florida every since for the past 3 years and this year we will stop in Louisianna *my mom thought of that since she knows I am French-obsessed* Lol :grin:

[Striderfan]

There was a guy in my french class last year from Lousiana...he was really mean and he smelled funny. lol

Today was the French Club's Noel party, :hyper: (I'm the Vice prez of the club so I was working for like an hour 7th period to decorate everything up...) it was actually really fun! :grin: We had about 6 "buches de Noel" (yule log cakes) and did french crafts, and took off our shoes and put gifts in them, and sang chirstmas carols in french, and then we did the chicken dance....in french! lol It was really great!! ;) Although, next week is final exams and the only one i'm worried about is French....there's soooo much to study!! :elfeek:


Anybody here done a chapter on the infinitive lately? :huh: It sounds really easy, but it is seriously the most difficult chapter I've learnt yet–harder than the subjunctive or the irregular forms of passe simple!! :o

[thehobbitelf]

It sounds liek you had a great time! hehe... What year of French are you? We are doing infinitives, but we are French 1's. I love taking french tests, i always get good scores :p

[Striderfan]

I'm in AP French, which is basically French 5 but it's a college course so we have to take this massive test in May and if we pass we get college credits...:grin: It's actually really fun–there's only 4 other girls in my class and we have the greatest teacher on earth...and i'm NOT kidding! :elfeek:

The infinitive itself isn't that difficult if you look at it by itself–hey, it's just the unconjugated version of the verb....but then you get into this thingy later on that if you conjugate a verb and then have another verb after it (ex: J'aime manger) you have to decide whether to but à after the verbe or "de" or nothing...and it's really hard because there really isn't any rule to decide by!!! :o my teacher says that the only strategy is to "feel the verb" ;) Yes, great help madame, I can just see myself during the test, "oh, this one feels like an à verbe to me..." lol

[thehobbitelf]

Well we are doing exactly that right now! :o well it's probably not as advanced as you *Hmm* anyhow, I have the best french teacher too! I absolutely love her! She is sooo awesome! hehe

[Vanyë]

haha you guys are funny lol

[Bonos-Girl]

eurgh...hate my french teacher...she's the reason i'm doing so badly....erm....oui...je deteste mon prof de francai...je suis tres mal a la francais parce que elle est tres mauvais...or something like that....

[thehobbitelf]

LOL... why is she so bad?

[Tar-Vanimelde]

Hey, we can understand you, BG, so you can't be that bad. I'm sorry to hear that you have a bad teacher, though. The good ones are the ones that make all the difference.
Why do all our french teachers seem to be women? just curious :huh:
Striderfan- I totally feel you, I'm in AP french as well. I hate all that "well, there's not really a rule for this" ****, but apparently (according to my sister, who is in Paris a ce moment) all you really need is:
present, futur, passe compose, imparfait, and certain conditional verbs. Of course, this is for day to day living, not the AP test, darn it! All I can say is it's "aider a" and "demander de". I'm sure that is a huge help lol I don't have anything for the infinative thing, but if you want I can send you some verb review sheets I made that have lots of definitions, formation rules, irregular stems, signal phrases, etc on them. (PM me if you want them, but I'll have to send them when I get back in two weeks ;) )
Btw, what are the shortcuts for accents?

#Vani

[thehobbitelf]

You guys are way ahead of me! hehe.. accents like "ë" and stuff?

[Nessa the Dancer]

Originally posted by Tar-Vanimelde

Why do all our french teachers seem to be women? just curious :huh:

#Vani

They are not all female...my french teacher for my last two years at high school was male - all the other french teachers were female though hehe

[Bonos-Girl]

ç=alt+0231
è=alt+0232
é=alt+0233
ê=alt+0234
they just carry on like that really...change the last number up one and you'll find what you want eventually! lol

[Striderfan]

About the male/female teacher thing...my first french teacher I had from 6th-8th grade was a guy from Cameroon...I remember the very first day our 2nd year with him he went up to the board and wrote "l'Anglais est mort." and made us all chant it over and over again for the entire period! lol

[thehobbitelf]

the english is what? ??? ??

lol I dont know that last word.. :p

[Fëalossë]

English is dead? What the heck??

I had a male French teacher last year. He was really mean and couldn't speak French. lol Really! He had taken French in the University of Alberta but he was a bit too slow to understand it when listening and he couldn't speak it coherently. It was really funny.

We've had Spanish lessons offered way up here but nobody ever took them so they were cancelled. More students went into Ukranian. But then, that's only because I live in a small industrial town and everybody is Ukranian. Except me! Most of my family is from England and Scandinavia.

Actually, more students even went into Cree than Spanish. (Cree is the language that the natives speak around here. Not that any of them speak it anymore.lol)

However, most kids just say that English is good enough, since everybody around the world speaks it (apparently). They all boycott French class; I guess it's because they're all sick of hearing about it. But then, this is Canada.

[Striderfan]

Originally posted by Tar-Vanimelde

Striderfan- I totally feel you, I'm in AP french as well. I hate all that "well, there's not really a rule for this" ****, but apparently (according to my sister, who is in Paris a ce moment) all you really need is:
present, futur, passe compose, imparfait, and certain conditional verbs. Of course, this is for day to day living, not the AP test, darn it! All I can say is it's "aider a" and "demander de". I'm sure that is a huge help lol I don't have anything for the infinative thing, but if you want I can send you some verb review sheets I made that have lots of definitions, formation rules, irregular stems, signal phrases, etc on them. (PM me if you want them, but I'll have to send them when I get back in two weeks ;) )

#Vani

Thank you ever so much for the offer :grin:, but right now I've got so many french review sheets they're comming out my ears...lol AP french final exam is on WEDNESDAY and i am sooooo freaked out :o ...but I checked my grade and I have to get above a 66% on the final to still keep an A- lol but I'm still worried...:blush:

another problem with the à and de thing is that sometimes if you change it to one or the other, it has a totally different meaning :elfeek:...take the verb decider, for example. Decider de is to decide to, but se decider à is to make up one's mind....ahhhh!!! :o Crazy french people...;) *shakes head sadly* :grin:

Cree? that sounds really cool! :elfeek: We only can choose between french or spanish at my school, and since I'm in California spanish would be more helpful, but my old school only offered french so that's what I got and that's what I'm sticking with :grin:

[Bonos-Girl]

what on earth is Cree? lol

[Fëalossë]

Cree is the Aboriginal language spoken from Eastern Alberta to Northern Ontario. They don't offer it at high school level, though; which is too bad. I might have taken it.

[Bonos-Girl]

sounds interesting...hmm.....what does it sound like?

[Fëalossë]

They use a lot of throat sounds, but they do it a lot softer than we do. (G is very frequent.) I think it sounds nice, and I like their writing too. It's just some simple shapes like triangles and circles, and when they change directions it changes the vowel that follows it. I've never learned any of it, but I'd like to.

[Striderfan]

That's very cool :elfeek:...at least if you take french you don't have learn a whole new alphabet...;)

Today was my AP French Final. Very long. Pretty hard. Oral exam was scarry. But overall not to bad. (perhaps that's becaues I studied for 8 hours the night before lol )

[Bonos-Girl]

i wanna learn a language with a new alphabet....but then again i'm just weird...it'd be pretty cool to be able to rerad russian or something though...lol

[Fëalossë]

You're not too strange. I've been trying to take an online course of Russian to learn how to read and write it, but I couldn't find a decent course anywhere. It's pretty interesting, though (at least for us weird people. ;))

You studied for eight hours in one night?? I didn't even know that was possible! lol

[Striderfan]

It is, believe me, it is ;)

But I just got my results back today (my french teacher called me in the middle of dinner...that was scary! :o ) and I did very well, so I guess those hours paid off! :grin:

I can say a few random words in Russian, like "sok" which means juice, and "starray" which means old....but I don't think the words 'old' and 'juice' will help me much if I ever travel there lol

[Fëalossë]

Unless, of course, you have a strange fetish for old juice. lol

Congratulations on your final! :thumbs:

[Fëalossë]

I GOT THE BOOKS IN FRENCH FOR CHRISTMAS!!! I'm so happy. :grin::grin::grin:

[Bonos-Girl]

i didn;t..but then again i forgot to ask...lol...would explain it really!

i'll get my dad to order it from the web s a late christmas present :p

[Fëalossë]

You should get them. The translation is done very well: the "poem" that Gollum recites about fish actually rhymes in French. (Most of the other ones don't, though.) Except that the illustrations are funny-looking. I learned a lot about French punctuation just be reading an actual French book, and it might as well be the Lord of the Rings. Haha.

[Tar-Vanimelde]

Originally posted by Striderfan
That's very cool :elfeek:...at least if you take french you don't have learn a whole new alphabet...;)

Today was my AP French Final. Very long. Pretty hard. Oral exam was scarry. But overall not to bad. (perhaps that's becaues I studied for 8 hours the night before lol )
You're already taking the exams? Ours aren't until May. I don't know whether that is a good or bad thing, really. Congrats on doing well, that's awesome! entdraught Go Striderfan!

I just spent two weeks in Paris, and I can say that although I love french as a language, I hate the peole. The Parisians really do deserve their reputation for being rude. pfbbt But anyway, we don't need to get into that. Happy belated New Year, everyone!

#Vani

[Glorfindel]

only exams in May?! **shocked** we have to take exams three times a year: at Christmas, at Easter and in June... :s


Allez, combien personnes ici parlent le français? :p

[Fëalossë]

Je parle assez français que je peux lire le plupart de Le Seigneur des Anneaux, mais je ne peux pas comprendre le français par écouter... ce n'est pas assez lente pour moi. lol

Our exams are in January and in June, unless we have midterms, but we don't usually.

[Tar-Vanimelde]

Oh, I just meant AP exams are in may, we have midterms and finals and stuff like that.
Et je parle francais, mais je comprend beacoup plus que je peux dire ou ecrire. J'aime lire en francais, sauf pour l'ecole, bien-sur.
Fealosse- est-ce que tu aimes les films de "Le Seigneur des Anneaux " beaucoup? J'ai vu le Retour du Roi en Paris, avec les voix orignales mais les sous-titres etait en francais. C'est un peu bizzare.
#Vani

[Fëalossë]

J'aime le livre plus que les filmes, mais les deux sont bons. Quand je vois les filmes par seul, je mets les sous-titres et les voix en français. (Ma famille ne l'aime pas.) C'est bien pour apprendre comment parler français. (C'est aussi bizarre, non?)

Je voudrais voyager au France, mais j'ai seul seize ans et je n'ai aucun de l'argent. :( Je ne pense pas que je pourrais parler avec les français de toute façon. Je n'ai jamais même été à Québec, et je pense que je dois aller là-bas pour un vacance, peut-être. Je n'ai jamais même voyagé à l'Ontario ! (Mais, j'ai été à la Mexique. C'est trop chaud pour un Canadien. :grin: )

Je pense que les Parisiens ne voudraient pas écouter à l'Anglais quand ils voient un film... j'entends que les français sont très fier de leur langage, et ils détestent le nôtre. Peut-être que oui, peut-être que non ; je sais pas. :huh:

[Fëalossë]

We could start a thread like the "Spanish Table," but for French, if anybody would actually use it; or we could just use this one. Opinions?

[Tar-Vanimelde]

I'd go and talk if you made one, but this seems to be working fine ;)

#Vani

[Fëalossë]

Meh... This is fine. Actually, Elendur said that we should probably keep it from being anything that not everybody can understand, so we should probably have both French and English... Which kind of defeats the purpose, but it's still fun. Hehe.

Alors... ça, c'est seul deux personnes qui parle français, Glorfindel...

(So... that's only two people who speak French...)

[Striderfan]

Bonjour mes amis, encore...;) J'ai reçu mon livre de "AP Review" cette semaine...et ce n'est pas autant difficile que j'avais pensé...mais la chose la plus difficile pour moi, c'est la partie ou on doit voir un photo pour un minute et ensuite expliquer la photo pour un minute...un minute n'est pas tres long! Ah oui, mais avec le practique, peut-etre je serai mieux...;)

[Fëalossë]

Eurgh... we have exams next week... and I have to take a provincial exam in biology 30 (which is grade 12 level)... I suppose I'll be cramming soon. I have to remember stuff like whether the inside of a nerve is positive or negative while its firing... And a bunch of different hormones in the body... I can never get stuff like that straight. But French class starts next semester! :grin: Its one of the few classes that I like.

[Bonos-Girl]

yeah...i hate hormones....they're the most boring thing in Biology.....oh well...at least you have french! lol

[Tar-Vanimelde]

I adore Biology! I love all that neurology stuff, but I love molecular bio the best. Pah on french. :p
Striderfan- Je n'aime pas les cartes quand le prof dit <<vous etes a l'eglise. Continuez dans la rue de Sainte Germaine du Pres, tournez droite a la rue Miromesnil. Tournez gauche a la rue Richard Lenoir. Ou etes-vous?>> parce que je suis confu entre droite et gauche! C'est terrible, non?

#Vani

[Fëalossë]

I liked genetics the best in biology. Gregor Mendel was a genius. lol

Juste pensez-vous : « droite » sonne comme « right » avec un d !

[Tar-Vanimelde]

C'est un bon idee, mais je ne sais pas le difference entre droite et gauche en englais!
Et tu as rasion, Mendel etait tres intelligent!

#Vani

[Striderfan]

I know exactly what you're talking about, Tar-V!!! lol I hate those map things!! ;)

[Fëalossë]

lol Sorry Vani! I misunderstood. If you're right-handed, you can remember that you write with your right (although that doesn't work in french... écrivez avec votre main droit... lol)

[Tar-Vanimelde]

yeah, I've just given up, for the most part. It's really embarassing when I'm at the movies and they say "theater 5 on your left" and I go to the right and they have to correct me. That only happens like every time. :rolleyes: Oh well, I guess I could do the L thing with your left hand, but that's so obvious lol

Oh yeah, french... Uh, je deteste les examens! J'ai un interro demain, ugh.

#Vani

[Striderfan]

Moi aussi! Mon interro est sur "le discours indirect", donc ce n'est pas tres difficile, mais je dois etudier!

[Tar-Vanimelde]

Bonne chance! J'ai fini mon interro avec beacoup de temps, j'espere que ca c'est un bon chose... :huh: Nos devoirs pour ce semaine sont de voir un film francais et ecrire un composition. Chouette!

#Vani

[Fëalossë]

J'ai du pitie pour vous. Bonne chance à vous aussi! Je pense que l'écriture, c'est la partie qu'est la plus difficile.

[Tar-Vanimelde]

Oui, les mots ecrite sont plus diffacile que les mots parle....mais pour moi, j'aime lire.....je n'ai pas le confidance dans mon accent de parle avec les autres :blush: mais toute seul, avec un roman.....j'adore le francais! :)

#Vani

[Fëalossë]

Ouais, moi aussi, même que ma professeur (je voudrai dire « professeuse », parce qu'elle n'est pas un homme, mais ça n'est pas correct ! lol) dit que j'ai un très bon accent. :huh: Même si je veux parler en français avec les autres, je ne peux jamais trouver quelqu'un qui sait le parler ! Et j'habite au Canada ! C'est incroyable. lol

[Tar-Vanimelde]

C'est bizzare...mais tu habites en l'ouest, pas en Quebec....peut-etre ca explique un peu....:huh: Ici, en Floride, il n'y a personne qui peut parler francais...tout le monde apprend l'Espagnole (sp? lol) .....pfbbt lol Pourquoi? C'est plus....mouche lol ;)

#Vani

[Fëalossë]

lol Vraiment? J'aime le sonne d'Espagnole. Peut-être je suis fou... lol

Eh bien, il y a plus des gens qui parlent allemagne en Alberta que français ; dans l'est il y a un grande nombre des francophones en Ontario et les Maritimes, pas seul Québec, mais dans l'ouest c'est different. C'est un raison que les Québécois pensent qu'ils ne sont pas « Canadians », mais « Québécois », et ils veulent séparer. :rolleyes:

Aujourd'hui nous régardons « Finding Nemo » en français pour notre classe. Je suis très excité ! J'aime « Finding Nemo »! :grin:

[Tar-Vanimelde]

Moi aussi, j'aime bien ce film! <>< lol
Oui, tu es fou! Mais pas seulment pour aimer le sonne de l'Espagnole lol
L'allemagne? Pourquoi? Les "Quebecois".....:rolleyes: J'ai un ami qui sont ne au Quebec, et il n'aime pas quand je dis qu'il est canadien....:huh: "Je suis Quebecios!" lol mais J'ai ne en Edmonton, et ma soeur, qui est age, est allee a un ecole bilangue quand nous avons habite la...:huh:

desole pour mon francais, je n'ai pas utiliser pour un long temps, je sais que je fais beaucoup d'erreurs lol

#Vani

[Fëalossë]

Ne pas soyez désolée, j'ai appris le français seul en l'école aussi.

Je suis né en Edmonton aussi ! C'est un bonne ville ; ou selon moi, au moins.

Oui, ton ami est un vrai Québécois. lol Actuellement, j'ai entendu qulequ'un qui parla (parlera? parlait? J'oublie toujours l'imparfait... lol) français aujourd'hui ! C'était étrange...

[Tar-Vanimelde]

Parlait ;) parla est le passe simple et parlera est le futur :p lol

C'est tres bizzare.....et j'ai rien de dire.....mon cerveux est mort lol je ne peux pas penser maintenant.....pfbbt

lol

#Vani

[brandy]

Je voyagerai à la belle France dans le 21 de Juin! :D Je n'ai jamais voyagé l'extérieur des États-Unis, si je suis une petite nerveuse. Ma français n'est pas très bonne, malheureusement.

Vani, mon cerveau est mort, aussi. Après mes examens, la remise des diplômes, et la préparation pour mon voyage, je ne pense pas écrire mes histoires (d'Haldir ;)).

[Tar-Vanimelde]

ahh, as- tu ecrites ici? je voudrais les voir...;)

ne soit pas nerveuse, c'est un experience tres formidable ;) ou vas-tu en France? et je suis sur que tu seras parfait ;)

#Vani

[brandy]

Non, je n'écris pas ici. Je suis confusée autour les règles pour les histoires--je ne pense pas que mes histoires sont convenable pour cette communauté. Je peux t'envoyer le site où tu peux trouver mes histoires. :)

J'irai au Paris, Saint-Malo/Normandie, la Vallée de Loire, et retourne au Paris. J'ai beaucoup excitation!

[Tar-Vanimelde]

Ouais, s'il tu plait...je voudrais voir...:wiggle:

Ah, c'est chouette! J'ai visite Paris et Tours, dans la vallee de la Loire...magnifique! N'oublie pas ton appareil- photo...
pour combien de temps ?

#Vani

[Striderfan]

Oh, j'aimerais voyager à la belle France, mais je n'ai pas de l'argent pour ça. :(

J'ai passé mon examen d'AP Français Langue le mois passé...est-ce qu'il y a les personnes ici qui l'ont passées? Je ne pensais pas que c'était trop difficile, le rédaction au fin était un sujet plus interessant que les sujets avec lesquels nous avions practiqués en classe. Sûrtout, l'examen n'était pas mal.

[Tar-Vanimelde]

J'ai passe...et moi non plus ;) mais attends pour les notes...lol Je ne sais pas comment j'ai vraiment fait...:huh:

ahh, mon pauvre tete...j'ai besoin de parler le francais beaucoup plus...lol aujourd'hui, j'ai lit un peu de Le seigneur des anneaux...:elfeek: ooo, mon tete lol c'est plus difficile que j'ai souvienne....

#Vani

[brandy]

Ouais, s'il tu plait...je voudrais voir...:wiggle:

Ah, c'est chouette! J'ai visite Paris et Tours, dans la vallee de la Loire...magnifique! N'oublie pas ton appareil- photo...
pour combien de temps ?

#Vani

T'envoyer un PM, Vani!

Ouais, je n'oublie pas mon appareil-photo ou beaucoup de film! Le voyage est dix jours; je retournerai en le 30 juin avec beaucoup des photos! :D

[Onilalle]

Salut!
Je m'appell Oni. J'ai 14 ans et j'adore Legolas!!! :love:
J'ai me reveil a 6am toujour... ugh. J'ai parler francais! (une petite Francais) (i think that's right)
SACRE BLEU!! MES DEVOIRS!! OH, NON! :(

[brandy]

Bonjour, Oni! Oh la la, plus de Legolas! :rolleyes: Je n'aime pas Leggy. :p lol Bienvenue au fil (I think that's the right word, although it may be literal 'thread')! :grin:

[Fëalossë]

Nous n'avons pas des vrais francophones ici, je pense ; nous pouvons utiliser les mots que nous voulons ! lol

J'ai mon examain final en français aujourd'hui... Priez pour moi. lol

[Tar-Vanimelde]

je utilise les mots que je sais...mais j'ai aucune idee si ils sont les vrais mots pour mes pensees ;) lol

Tres bien! :thumbs: pour toi ;)

Bienvenue, Oni ;)

#Vani

[Onilalle]

Au revoir, Vani et tout!
i am going off to Spain! (francais?)
Ah! Espagne!
Au revoir!!!! :smooch: :wave:

[Tar-Vanimelde]

au revoir, amuse-toi! a bientot ;)

#Vani

[Fëalossë]

Ah, l'Éspagne ! Je voudrais y aller... Peut-être après je finis le deuxième année de l'école... Cependent, on ne peut pas parler le français là ! Mais, j'allais n'importe où, s'il est en Europe. *Sigh*

[brandy]

Oh la la! Je me suis retourné de mon voyage à France aujourd'hui (très fatiguée, très faim, et très très heurese que je suis à ma maison avec le pizza et mon petit-ami)! Les photos bientôt! :grin:

[thehobbitelf]

YOU WENT TO FRANCE???!! You lucky duck! That;s liek my life long dream, but I am only 15.. I am going into my second year of French in high school, I love it and I am VERY passionate about it :)