Merry or Legolas?

[Woodland Gal]

yo yo yo .....i love legolas and merry!!! omg who doesnt..my cousin erica here feels the same!!! omg ..she thinks i am crazy b/c i have about 50 mill.......pics of legolas/orlando and i talk of him 247 but hey...who cares you can only live once right? i will go to london whether my parenst like it or not! lol....

"...my favorite qoute......we should l;eave now. it is not the eastern shore tyat worries me...a shodow and a threat has been growing in my mind somthing draws near..i can feel it.."
pfbbt
"...he was taken by both shadow and flame. a belroq of morgoth..for we went needlsly in in net..."
mecry mine?...im only 16...ererrrg
:)

[Kenzie]

hey wheres pippin.............i'd have to say i like him better than merry but i'll just go with legolas ;)

[Lady Melody]

I'm barely 17 too but hell yeah, I'm quite taken by our elven hottie here... =)

But he isn't a prince... check this out;

"...I have seen many an oak grow from acorn to ruinous age."
We know less of Legolas than we do of any other member of the Fellowship. His father was Thranduil, the Elven-King of Mirkwood (of The Hobbit fame), and his grandfather was Oropher, who led the troops of Mirkwood in the Last Alliance, and died at the start of the Siege of Mordor. However, it is unknown whether Thranduil had other children, and if so, whether Legolas was his heir. This seems unlikely: he would hardly have been permitted to travel to Rivendell alone at a time of danger, had he been the heir apparent in Mirkwood.


We do not even know if Legolas was a legitimate child or not, and some commentators have even suggested that there is circumstantial evidence that he is not. Their reasons are as follows:

Legolas never calls himself a prince, and none of the other characters call him one. This contrasts sharply with the treatment accorded other noble Elves. Given Thranduil's consciousness of rank (he is the only Elf-Lord in Middle-earth who calls himself a King), it is inconcievable that he would raise a son to be so negligent of it.

Thranduil was a Sindarin Elf who originally came from Doriath, but Legolas always identifies himself as Silvan, not Sindar. Presumably he had some Silvan ancestry, and probably his mother was Silvan. It may also indicate that he has spent the majority of his life mixing with Silvan Elves as one of their number.

There is complete silence on the subject of Thranduil's wife and/or Legolas's mother. This may mean no more than the fact that Tolkien did not think women important enough to be mentioned most of the time, or that she was dead or had gone west, but it could also be interpreted as the kind of silence that traditionally surrounded royal scandals. In particular, would Thranduil have wed one of his Silvan subjects, rather than a fellow Sindar noblewoman?


The year of his birth is unknown. He addresses the other members of the Fellowship as 'children', and implies that he is of great age. Martinez, in his article Speaking of Legolas, posits a date at some time during the Watchful Peace, giving him an age of between 500 and 900 years old. On the other hand, he frequently does not act as though he is of great age, or indeed terribly mature at all (as on Caradhras, for example). This could be because, (assuming that the illegitimacy theory is not correct) while he is the son of a King, he is also the son of an immortal. This means that he has all the privileges of rank, but little of the responsibility, and, barring accidents, little opportunity of acquiring it.


While little is known about Legolas's early life, therefore, we can surmise that most or all of it was spent in Mirkwood, and that he travelled little. He must, however, have been involved in the events of The Hobbit, and was almost certainly present at the Battle of Five Armies. He has never visited either Lothlóien, for instance, or Hollin. He has certainly never visited Lindon, or anywhere else close to the sea. Whether he has visited Rivendell before or not is unclear. It is quite possible that he has not: the Wood-Elves as described in The Hobbit are an insular folk, exceedingly wary of strangers. He may not in fact have travelled at all before The Hobbit. He certainly gives the impression in LotR that much of what happens in their journeys is new and remarkable to him. In fact, the events of the War of the Ring could be seen as something of a rite of passage for him, as it is only after its conclusion that he breaks away from the parental home and establishes his own colony of Elves in Ithilien.

About five years before the War of the Ring, Aragorn captured Gollum, and brought him to Mirkwood to be kept in custody. (This seems a strange choice of prison: the Mirkwood Elves do not exactly have a good track-record where escaped prisoners are concerned.) Legolas may well have met him at that time. He may well also have met Gandalf either then, or earlier, after the Battle of Five Armies.

When Gollum escaped, Legolas was sent to Rivendell to report his escape. This seems a strange choice of messenger: the reporting of an escaped prisoner does not usually fall to the son of a King, especially one who is not well-travelled. It is conceivable that Legolas had responsibility for Gollum's imprisonment, and was therefore sent in punishment for his Elves' incompetence.

Why Legolas was chosen to be a member of the Fellowship is also unclear. There were many powerful Elves resident in Rivendell; certainly many who would be considered wiser. The kind of power that Glorfindel, for instance, demonstrates at the Ford of Bruinen, would undoubtedly have been of inestimable use to the Ring-bearer. Possible reasons for Legolas's choice are as follows:

The presence of one of Glorfindel's power would be too easy to detect, whereas Legolas, being a Wood-Elf, is more accustomed to working by stealth.

He may have been less susceptible to the power of the Ring than others among the Elves. He was an Elf of Mirkwood, the only Elven community that lived in close proximity to dark creatures and powers, and had to daily battle with them to preserve the boundaries of their kingdom.

Legolas might have been the only Elf prepared to go. The Elves at that time considered themselves a declining people, closing themselves off from the other peoples of Middle-earth and taking little or no part in deciding its fate. Elrond, possibly because he was half-Elven, took a more active part than most, but even he played comparatively little part compared to the Hobbits or the Dunedain.

Finally, and IMO most probably, it could have been because Elrond recognised in him the capacity for change that most Elves, by their natures as immortals, tended to lack. The Elves of the Third Age tended to live very narrow lives, but the Quest to destroy the Ring required one who was both willing and able to leave their familiar surroundings, and adapt to the rigours of the journey to Mordor, and to living with the mortals who comprise it.

Tolkien states that Legolas 'achieved the least of any of the Fellowship', though this does not seem to be an entirely just charge, compared to, say, Merry or Pippin. Like Gimli, after the sundering of the Fellowship he travelled first to Rohan, to take part in the Battle of Helm's Deep, and then South-East via the Paths of the Dead to Minas Tirith. On this journey he first heard the call of the gulls, and began to experience the sea-longing.

There is a notable change in his attitudes and actions after the Fellowship arrived at Lothlóien. Before Lothlóien he gives the impression of extreme youth, and often inappropriate playfulness. After Lothlóien he seems to become more grave and serious. It is also Lothlóien that marks the start of his remarkable friendship with Gimli.

After the War of the Ring, Legolas returned to Mirkwood, and then brought a portion of his people down to dwell in Ithilien, in Gondor, where he stayed until Aragorn's death, and then built a grey ship in Ithilien, and sailed West via the river Anduin. It is said that he took Gimli with him, but this Tolkien neither confirms or denies. It is possible, though, that many others from Ithilien travelled with him.

'...Then Legolas built a grey ship in Ithilien, and sailed down Anduin and so over Sea; and with him, it is said, went Gimli the Dwarf. And when that ship passed an end was come in Middle-earth of the Fellowship of the Ring.'
- J R R Tolkien: Appendix B, The Lord of the Rings)


And I still love him anyways =)

[Tar-Ancalimë]

excellent post there... i agree with almost all of it-- won't pick apart that which i didn't like, though, you're too nice a person--

in conclusion i would merely say...

all this drooling is overrated!!!!

[Herenyë]

Well...........

This shows that Legolas isnt what he is all cracked up to be BUT he did achieve alot and it might seem alittle.....he did not go there to achieve something......he went there to support and battle for his love of ME......and also if Legolas is 500 years old.....then he is really young......i doubt that he is that young because from where i look he is 2931 years old.....so i do not know what to believe.....and if he was in the battle of the five armies then that means he did have experiences and he does everything from the heart......and plus i would of said that Glorfindel could have been a better pick but maybe Glorfindel wasnt meant to be in the Fellowship of the Ring.....so then i think Legolas was there to reunite the relationship with the Elves and the Dwarves....and so on.....so then i still think that he is rated good.....the drool is okay.....;) thats what i think so far.....it might change you know ;)

[RacheL]

i lyke Pippin more than Merry, but u cant beat Legolas ;)

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[Herenyë]

Of course.......No one can ;) (well in my opinion lol) Legolas! and yes you have to have pippin in there!

[Arwen Elf]

MERRY MERRRY MERRY!!!! Ya gotta love the hobbits!!!! Je l'adore. Legolas, not so much. . . . though he is very:thumbs: !

[Glarawen]

Uh LEgolas 'o course!! lol merry is cool too be legolas ah you got a hottie on ur hands

[Woodland Gal]

ok ok pippin is quite cute but he is older and i dunno...its seems more comfortable to say legolas and merry are the cute ones i keep pip to myself..lol

[Glarawen]

thats alright keep pip to yaself cant stand him u might have some competion w/ one of my friends though ;)

[Herenyë]

Legolas of course!

im for Legolas and yes i love Pippin too! But you have to have Merry too! Cuz no one can have a pippin without a merry if you get what im saying......but still Legolas is the best! and yes Pippin is awesome! ;)

[Woodland Gal]

hey hey she can have pip dont worry lol!! i love all of them lol but legolas the most!
he ha

[Pil]

I would soooooo pick Merry! He's the dude! :thumbs: :smooch: :)

[Winyaél Greenleaf]

Wow, Lady Melody's post is lenghty! You sure posted words of wisdom, but nvm, I still like to think of Legolas as a prince. But whatever it is, Legolas still rocks my life!!! Legolas~!!!!!! :loveyou:
I like merry too. In fact, I just ordered a Leggy clone, a Merry clone and some others from ME labs, but Legolas is my top guy! :thumbs:

[Mithiath of Mirkwood]

My votes deffinatly for Legolas :loveyou: no offense to anyone but I'm obbsessed with him. About Legolas's age I found this quote on one of Oralando's fan sites:
"He has seen the world. He is incredibly experienced in many ways. Mind you, so he should be after all, he is 2,931 years old!"-Orlando Bloom on Legolas
So ya I guess I'm thinkin he's 2,931.

[Pil]

:drool::drool::drool::drool::drool:
MERRY MERRY MERRY MERRY MERRY

I know leggy is hot....VERY hot...but dontcha find a little more....substance to merry? :huh: :)

[Eowyn]

why is legolas winning? MERRY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Winyaél Greenleaf]

LEGOLAS!!!!!!!!! :loveyou:
I like the lil' dude, but Leggy is just soooo hot! :flamer:

[Woodland Gal]

LeGoLaS is the best but i still cant decide if i like merry too! lol

[Winyaél Greenleaf]

You should. He's an adorable dude. lol

[Woodland Gal]

yes he is im looking at a picture of him as merry...quite cute i must say hehehe

legolas

[Winyaél Greenleaf]

Now waaaait a minute. i thought you were the thread starter and you said you like BOTH Merry and Leggy??? lol

[Woodland Gal]

yes i like both of them but at first legolas tickeled my fancy (haha i love that).....but anyways yes i like them both...:thumbs:
they both make me...roflmao
:archer: