i survived

[Roca Wear]

well i just survived a BOMB THREAT people! scariest **** i ever went thru in my life...some of u might know bj's..it's an outlet place and stuff. well there is one downstairs from a walmart and toys r us, popular places. we got into the parking lot and some cops/firemen were there, no big deal. then..cops started to tell us to get out..eh. then they started RUNNING. so we ran for our lives, ..:( scary stuff.
edit: and no doubt from all this stuff goin on with iraq and osama..didnt have a doubt in my mind. or it could've been one of the "lone extremisits"..

[Glarawen]

OMG!!! that sounds soo scary! The scarest thing close to a bomb threat was 9-11 in NY. There was a plan down in Pa and i live in Pa it was fairly close to where i live. we watched it on tv live and later (my teacher at the time was the head teacher; the big head honcho next to the prin.) anyway the prin. called him out in the hallway and started yelling at him for letting us watch it cause it was too volient! he put her in her place, saying that we were old enough to see it, that it was history and we desevered to see it, blah blah..... she threatened to fire him and this year SHE got kicked off the board!!!! lol sorry that prob wasnt what u wanted when you started this thread......... carry on............. lol

[Alatar]

ya well we dont really have that many Bomb Threats over here in Australia:).
But our goverment sent all these pamphlets to everyone in the country saying what to do in an attack and everyone sorta took it as a waste of tax payers money though:(
Thats Australia for you:thumbs:

[Pil]

That sounds really scary Roca! :o

In Ireland they have these pills issued to every family incase of nuclear war fare...but the U.K. have no such pills yet. :rolleyes:

[Winyaél Greenleaf]

Bombs are really frightening...

[Pil]

I've never really understood how they work... :huh:

P.S. I think tonight on RIchard and Judy...channel four in uk...they're showing us a modern day version of the anderson shetler, designed to protect us from modern warfare...apparently. :rolleyes:

[SindarinGirl]

I got an email this morning from the amusement park just north of Richmond asking me to take part in a survey on the terrorism threat alert system and how it would affect my summer plans to visit the park. Especially "if" we go to war with Iraq. :rolleyes:

Let's see, terrorists are planning to make a big statement to protest the war and they could pick DC, Disney World, the World Series, LA, NY or a podunk town in Virginia that consists of a Burger King, a truck stop and an Amusement Park. Besides, when we hide in our houses for fear of what might happen, they win.

[TheRingBearer]

Wow. What a day. How exciting!

[Bonos-Girl]

exactly SG...the entire point of terrorism is to inflict terror, if everyone sits in bomb shelters all the time they have won.

[Pil]

Yeah i know...but if someone had decided to attack my town then i know that i'd rather be in a bomb shelter than anywhere else. Keeping alive isn't the same as giving in to their terror. By staying alive we live to fight another day. By getting ourselves (civilians) killed for the cause of not getting terrorised we are just letting terrorists win. But either way...lets hope we don't have to go there.... :nono: :(

[Bonos-Girl]

living to fight another day isn't gonna acheive much if we're gonna stay hiding in a shelter.

and erm....getting civilians killed seems to be what dubya thinks is the best option to stop terrorism...although i dunno how he figures that one.....

i was just wondering, when do terrorists become people protecting their own rights? there is obviously a very thin line. what is the actual definnition of terrorism ?

[Glarawen]

I dont think they will bomb anytime soon........ the us is doing more stuff than what they are saying...... as for irac well they are being "careful" at the moment. I think if we are going to war it will be on there ground not ours and they will not know what hit them

all i know is they are very mean to there followers and the countries over in that area are cruel too.......... if you steal and get caught, if you stole with the left or right arm stole the item that is the hand you get choped off!! Owwww!!

[Roca Wear]

i dnt think its terrorists like osama..if it were tru,some ******* like timothy mcveigh

[SindarinGirl]

Originally posted by Glarawen08
all i know is they are very mean to there followers and the countries over in that area are cruel too.......... if you steal and get caught, if you stole with the left or right arm stole the item that is the hand you get choped off!! Owwww!!

That's a pretty good incentive to not steal, though. It's called Sharia law, based on an interpretation of the Koran. One of the laws is when a woman is raped, all her attacker has to say is that she "enticed him" and she can be stoned to death while he is basically let free.
Being a woman, she is usually not allowed to testify in court. And, since she is now "unclean", she is considered worthless and an embarassment to her husband or male relatives, who rarely testify on her behalf.
There's a woman in Nigeria right now on death row for having a child out of wedlock. She's just waiting for her child to be weaned at age 2 (I believe), and then she'll be stoned.

You want an real eye-opener of a Muslim country and their laws, read Princess by Jean Sasson, a biography of a Saudi Arabian Princess.

Yeah I know, sort of off-topic. Sorry :blush:

[Kenzie]

thats ok .... it was interesting!!! .... man we are very lucky ( we meaning us ladies)

[Glarawen]

Well it is quite different in the states!!!!!!!!!! the woman here almost have more say than the men!!

[SindarinGirl]

I am so thankful to live in a country where the civil laws are not based on religious laws.
Separation of church and state, baby. :thumbs:

[Bonos-Girl]

i'm very thankful that the church doen't make the laws still.....i'd have to move country or summat...

[SindarinGirl]

Oh, man, we're agreeing again, BG... lol lol

[Daisy Gamgee]

SG, I've heard about that lady in Nigeria.....what a stupid thing to be killed for....its not harming anyone...its pretty inhumane way to treat people. And I absolutely agree, with you and BG, about the seperation of state and religion. Thank God we were born in dempcratic countries.

Back to topic, my dads ex army, and we used to have to check under cars, etc for bombd regulary. I also used to live near Manchester, in the Uk, which had a bomb go off (IRA) luckily noone was killed. Any normal saturday me and my friend would have been there, but that weekend, she was on crutches so we went to the cinema instead....pretty scary looking back. Although, most people would agree that the bomb was the best thing to happen to Manchester - its totally turned around the city - made it much nicer.... we now have a Harvey Nicks, and a Selfridges on the bomb site. And one of the oldest pubs in England, which was very close to the bomb site but miracously didn't get damaged, now is in a really nice setting....all in all a major improvement to the city. Anyway enough baffling off topic.

[Catz]

being a part of a bomb scare is frightening i know......and as this situation in the middle east heats up therell be more and more scares.......many of them groundless.......so can i just say........please........if you are caught in a bomb scare.........DONT PANIC AND DONT RUN.......get out calmly and quietly.......if youre calm, you help to keep others calm............i know thats hard advice to follow, but overall, FAR more people are injured and killed in panics than in bomb blasts........i worked for the Post Office here for many years, and we used to get bomb threats quite often...........very rarely were they for real........and the couple of times that there really had been a bomb in the system, no one knew until it had been delivered......one that went thru the area i was working killed a woman on delivery
:catz:

[Daisy Gamgee]

When I was at uni in Stoke-on-trent, we lived at tehe nd house of a line of terraces....we came back from the shops one day to find the whole street had been cordoned off, and everyhouse, except ours for some reason, had been evacuated, as there had been a possible letterbomb delivered to the middle house, turned out to be nothing luckily.

CAtz is right thou - don't panic - just follow the directions of the police, and get out of there calmly - the main point of bombs, especially suicide bombs, and the smaller ones, is to cause confusion so that the casualty and death list is higher than one expects from a bom of a certan yield. But yep, don't run and don't panic is the instructions we've always had. my dad used to tell me, especially in the city centre, and in London, that if I saw something suspicious to walk away as fast as possible and then when a good distant away, to report it.

[Pil]

Yeah, at airports you're advised to stay away from unaccompanied luggage and bags...if they were to contain something then you don't wanna be caught around it. There's always people on the look out for things like that at the airports. :thumbs:

[SindarinGirl]

I was in London a few years ago at Christmas time, we ended up walking or taking cabs instead of the tube on Christmas and New Year's eve, just in case the IRA decided to make a statement.

Catz, Pil and Daisy - good advice! :thumbs: Staying calm is the key!
In the fall when there was a series of sniper attacks along the Interstate 95 corridor, so many people were terrified to leave their homes. It really got ridiculous.

[Bonos-Girl]

yep..the entire point of terrorism is to terrorise you....if you let them then they've won...just stay calm....and keep breatthing...thats the key! lol

[Pil]

roflmao

Bg...:nono:.........oh heck it IS funny! :p

I agree with ur statement btw...it's very well put! :thumbs:

[Bonos-Girl]

lol...thanks....i take all my inspiration from gimli!! roflmao

[Lady Melody]

Originally posted by SindarinGirl
That's a pretty good incentive to not steal, though. It's called Sharia law, based on an interpretation of the Koran. One of the laws is when a woman is raped, all her attacker has to say is that she "enticed him" and she can be stoned to death while he is basically let free.
Being a woman, she is usually not allowed to testify in court. And, since she is now "unclean", she is considered worthless and an embarassment to her husband or male relatives, who rarely testify on her behalf.
There's a woman in Nigeria right now on death row for having a child out of wedlock. She's just waiting for her child to be weaned at age 2 (I believe), and then she'll be stoned.

You want an real eye-opener of a Muslim country and their laws, read Princess by Jean Sasson, a biography of a Saudi Arabian Princess.

Do you know what I'm sick of? It's people who just judge others by merely what they hear, and rumors and baseless facts. At least I make an effort to scour the whole subscribed newspapers in my boarding school about the Iraq thingy before I critisize.

Anyways... here's a Muslim girl, 17-year-old... well-educated, and aspiring to be a geneticist.... and if my Father even thinks about marrying me off when I don't want to, my Mom'd sabotage him and I'd rally at him, (when I'm absolutely angry, of course. I usually respect him, and we got along fairly fine) and however a stingy, grumpy old man he can be sometimes, he's my father and I love him. I'm schooled in quite a prestigious goverment subsidied boarding school (sorry for the snobbery, there's only 100 openings each year and a 10000 waiting list, it does get to your heads sometimes).

I go to the movie whenever I wished, as long as I don't exceed my curfew, my lack of a bf is based on the inefficiency of communication when handphones are not allowed at all. I don't wear my head covering...yet... mainly because I've been having too much fun and because I never saw it fit for me yet... but I will donn it by the end of this year, I think... as I feel that it is time. Many of our celebreities here are Muslims and they wear sometimes just about the same as your celebrities wear (But Asians are more conservative, so forget Asian Britney).

We don't enfore the Syari'ah law here, since it's a multiracial country, as is unjust to just enforce it on the Muslims alone, and let the non-Muslims walk free, and we don't want to offend anyone. In less than 5 decades we have somehow succeeded to catch up with develouped countries (the facilities in my new school building in Cyberjaya is even better than the ones in the US, I dare say), with the work of everyone, despite racial differences, working together. I am a mix of many races myself, and nobody here is a 'pureblood' anymore... not even the Sultan, and the Crown Prince of certain states!

Wait, I'm digressing, back to the point.

If a girl claimed that she was raped here (even if she was not) the guy she named (anyone) would be caned, and jailed. No exceptions. Womenfolk here are proud and loud (it's cultural, really. Even in the 15th century, women are more protected and free then men) and as my Ustazah (religious) teacher told us in class, some people are just fools... since they were given a box, it never seem to occur to them not to just accept whats inside, but to look outside it too.

It was tribal, and culture, my dear. Islam is a belief, and the Quran is a set of rules, do's and don't's.... however the believer interperts it depends on however he was raised, and wherever his thoughts dwelled. I read the Princess...part of it (bookstore free reading) and I could see how ignorant the men are, and how strong are womenfolk. You forget, that there are other Muslims than those that lives in the Arabian countries. I am one of many.

Look at me, I am free to say and go wherever I wished (as long as my parents doesn't freak out, they're pretty liberal). My parents wished me to be a doctor, but I rolled my eyes and say that I wanted genetics or more accurately the forensics field, my parents accepted. Allah have mercy on me, how can I let you see? Arghh.... there is so much to say, so much to show... I can tell you many things... yet... I know that it will be a labourous task, should I begin it.

There's is book about the Liberal Muslim world by Soroush, I think... my spelling and memory may be wrong.

Oh, well... lemme make it easier..... state any doubts about my religion, and I will answer... but make it swift and hurry, since I'll have to go back to my boarding school by Sunday.

[Daisy Gamgee]

Can I ask, and this isn't meant to be offensive at all....you are at a Government subsidised school, and you read the subscribed newspapers...what exactly do you mean by subscribed? And subscribed by who? How do you know that you are seeing the whole story? Isn't it possible that you only get to read the papers that the Government want you to read? Does it include any International papers, eg The Times or Observer (both UK broadsheets) or an American broadsheet?

[Lady Melody]

That is a very good question.

However... we subscribe many things... some of it are the common newspapers of course, in both Malay and English; Utusan Malaysia, News Straits Time, TheStar, etc... And even from overseas, like Fortune, Time, National Geographic (of course, they costs too much, so only the library have good stock of them, and I'm an avid reader) and so I am no mere narrow-minded idiot.

We students subscribed them of course!*snort* We're the ones who're paying for it (by class) so whatever paper we wished to read is our own business. Even our teachers encouraged us to read as much as possible from not only Malaysia, since to read things from only one point of view is a griveous mistake :rolleyes:

We're encouraged to look at things from both point of views.. Bush's and ours... and I say FREE PALENTINES and NO WAR TO IRAQ....

Too bad it's not gonna change one of the biggest error that the US have done of late... (remember Vietnam?)

We're free to think and say whatever we want here, as long as we do it peacefully, and nobody gets hurt. pfbbt

Not only that, I watch CNN, BBC, and all the news broadcasts that I can get, and also I read online papers from all over the world (that publishs in English, of course)...:thumbs: