View Full Version : Do you like that the movie was different from the book?
Linwe
March 9th,2003, 01:34 PM
I found that the movie had an extra scene that did not exist in the book. Do you think that it is fair to change the book? Do you think that the movie did the book justice? Just wanted to know.
Miruvor
March 9th,2003, 02:11 PM
Sure. I like having another interpretation to enjoy. If I want the book word for word, I'll just read it. I don't see an issue of 'fair.'
At least, I don't know of any contract between PJ and Tolkien stating PJ would not stray from the books. Yet, the phrase "standing on the shoulders of giants" seems to come to mind.
Bonos-Girl
March 9th,2003, 04:38 PM
if the film was exactly the same as the book
a) it wouldn't have worked very well as there are some things that just won't translate to screen
b)there'd be no point in watching the film at all
c)there'd be nothing for hardcore LOTR fans to complain about! lol
Glarawen
March 9th,2003, 07:15 PM
i think it was fine that they changed some things they almost had too.......
Tári Celebrindal
March 10th,2003, 04:12 AM
I really have no complaints about the changes in the movie. Some did raise my eyebrows, but I always keep in mind that a strict book-to-movie interpretation would not be a very good idea. Besides, it isn't Tolkien who made the movies, it was a person who is in awe of him and would like to pay homage, if you will, and I think he did a pretty darn good job. :grin:
And I agree with BG: it IS fun for hardcore fans to gripe about some things in the movie. It makes life interesting. lol
Alatar
March 10th,2003, 09:52 AM
Well he had to think about the WHOLE audience didn't he, he wanted the movie to be a success and at the same time show his respect to the master mind behind it all Tolkien.
Winyaél Greenleaf
March 10th,2003, 12:16 PM
As long as the movie turned out great and stuck to the main plot line, which it did! lol
Gwaihir
March 10th,2003, 12:31 PM
I couldn't decide, because:
1. It is impossible to make LotR motion picture exactly as in the books. The story is too complicated and big for movies.
2. I don't like some of the changes made in the movie. I didn't mint FotR, but I couldn't understand why PJ made some of those changes in TTT.
I think TTT went a bit too far in changing the story, but it's not my movie, it's PJ's. I have no say in the making of it. As for the missing of the Scouring of the Shire in RotK, that cannot be helped. It'd be an anticlimax in a movie, though it was cool in the books. PJ was wise to do that.
TheRingBearer
March 10th,2003, 08:22 PM
Of course its ok to change minor things because some things in books just wouldn't work on screen. I'd draw the line at changing massive plot lines or characters.
SindarinGirl
March 11th,2003, 09:38 PM
Originally posted by Bonos-Girl
if the film was exactly the same as the book
a) it wouldn't have worked very well as there are some things that just won't translate to screen
b)there'd be no point in watching the film at all
c)there'd be nothing for hardcore LOTR fans to complain about! lol
:thumbs: Ditto! Man, we're agreeing again! lol If there wasn't anything for us to gripe about, this place would be really boring! We'd be reduced to arguing over whether Tolkien meant for Legolas to have braids. lol
Windwater Elf
March 11th,2003, 11:09 PM
I did not mind the changes in the TTT movie even one bit as I think it still kept to the spirit of the book. I especially like the presence of the Lothlorien elves at Helm's Deep.
Celebrían
March 12th,2003, 03:46 AM
Of course it's okay, otherwise each movie would be twice as long, maybe longer! I thought PJ made some excellent editing decisions in FOTR, like condensing the time that it took Frodo and company to get from the Shire to Bree. This section in the book was like five chapters. So, good job on that, PJ.
Of course there are some editing decisions that I don't understand (now I'm thinking more of TT), but as far as I'm concerned, so long as the ending of the movie is the same, and no MAJOR elements are changed it doesn't matter to me what PJ does. In some cases, I actually think PJ made better decisions than Tolkien did about placement of lines and such, but anyway, I think you get my stance by now.
Oh, and about Legolas having braids......Those braids serve a purpose! And it's not for appearences, either. I read a great article that analyzed Legolas' archery, and the guy who wrote it said that braids are done up the sides of the head so that when shooting , the archer's hair doesn't get caught in the arrow! (ouch!). So the braids are functional. The guy said himself that he does the same thing when he shoots. ;)
Rumil
March 12th,2003, 11:54 PM
Yep you can stick me down in the 'I agree with the issue' gang. Film and novels are different media and have different requirements - change is inevitable.
Linwe
March 13th,2003, 12:13 AM
I think that as long as the main plot is the same, it is okay to change the movie
Sauron
March 13th,2003, 03:18 AM
Some things you have to change, I understand that. But, Did PJ really NEED to change Faramir's charater? Did PJ really NEED the warg battle? I say no. As Chris Lee said: "Some scences you DO have to change, because they need to be seen." I think PJ went a little overboard with the changes in TT, But in some cases, I belive they are improvements(Like Amon Hen)
But that's just my two cents :)
:flamer: Sauron :flamer:
Miruvor
March 13th,2003, 11:17 AM
He probably had a big picture in his mind. Knowing he would want to put ALL the juiciest scenes (Saruman's staff, palantir, Shelob) in the third and most climactic movie, he had some space to fill in as he saw fit. I.e., extension of Faramir in the movie (In TTT he was a ship passing in the night) and the Warg scene, which really isn't that much of a stretch, as the Wargs of Isengard are mentioned several times in TTT:
"Where is Eomer? Tell him there is no hope ahead. He should return to Edoras before the wolves of Isengard come there."
"Swiftly a scout rode back and reported that wolf-riders were abroad in the valley and that a host of Orcs and wildmen were hurrying southwards from the Fords of Isen. . . ."
Celebrían
March 14th,2003, 03:57 AM
Yep, the wargs are in there all right, and I liked that scene a lot. If PJ hadn't done that, then we wouldn't get to see Legoals flip up onto Arod. :o
Alatar
March 14th,2003, 08:26 PM
Yeah that was on of my Favourite scenes
Celebrían
March 15th,2003, 06:07 AM
I may have already said this, but did you know that you can download that scene from this site? It's highly recommended!
Alatar
March 15th,2003, 06:19 AM
oh ok i didn't know that
Celebrían
March 15th,2003, 06:24 AM
Yeah, it's in the downloads section under TT trailers. It's really cool! :thumbs:
Linwe
March 15th,2003, 02:00 PM
I didnt know that either, maybe I will try
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