Why was Legolas overlooked?

[Celebrían]

I was just wondering if anybody has ever wondered why Arwen and Legolas never hooked up (married).

I mean think about it, they are both elves, so both sides wouldn't have to agonize over the "mortality issue"; and they could unite the knigdoms of Rivendell and Mirkwood (okay, Rivendell may not "technically" be classified as a "kingdom", since Elrond isn't really a king, but I think you know what I'm getting at). Had Elrond and Thranduil never entertained this idea? It just seemed kind of obvious to me. If they did this, problem solved, right ? (especially for Elrond) Of course, if you consider the "destiny issue", my idea gets tossed out the window.

But anyway, enough of me, what do you guys think? Legitimate point, or just plain nonsense? (Don't worry about offendnig me, if you think it's a dumb idea, just say so! :thumbs: :)

Also, if anybody thinks this thread would be more appropriate somewhere else, feel free to move it. :thumbs:

[Grima Wormtongue]

i think its cuz arwen was in love with aragorn. dur. but nah, from a writers standpoint this puts more..... not suspense, but soemthin like that in the book. if it was legolas and arwen it woudlve have been all liek thta, ya know?

plus, if legolas hooked up all the chicks that go see the movies woudl be ****ed. :)

[Celebrían]

I know what you mean, Grima, but maybe I wasn't clear enough in my post....sorry..... What I meant was Arwen and Legolas were around BEFORE Aragorn.

I was just wondering why, in the thousand or so years before Aragorn even enters the picture, nobody ever thought of getting Arwen and Legolas together.

Just a note...I know it doesn't really matter, because they didn't get together, but I just thought it would be interesting to speculate and get your thoughts....so, anybody have any?

[ImDaMom]

Interesting posit, Celebrian. Maybe they did meet and didn't hit it off ("Oh Legolas, why can't we get together?" "I'm sorry Arwen- I can't start a relationship with anyone who's not at least as pretty as I am.") :)

[Grima Wormtongue]

yeah, thats what i was thinking, maybe arwen thought legolas was too much of a pretty boy. or maybe it was the whole king thing, cuz, correct me if I'm wrong, but arwen and elrond knew aragorn was a king, and legolas was never king till after the WOTR. so maybe arwen is a stuck lil beeotch and only wanted to date a king, or at-least an heir to a throne.

[ImDaMom]

When she met Aragorn, she did not know who or what he was, as he was quite young, and had just found out himself about his ancestry. He grew up in Rivendell, and she spent that time in Lothlorien, so they would not have met. Maybe Lothlorien elves look down on their woodland cousins, and that's why JRR did not get them together????

[Rumil]

Maybe they fell out over hair products?

[Celebrían]

lol You guys are great! I'm loving your comments! I'm glad to know that I wasn't the only one who thought about this. ;)

And I think your right, imdamom. I don't remember where, but I think I did read that the Lothlorien elves "look down upon their woodland kin". Who knows? Maybe she thought Legolas was too much of a "show-off": you know flipping onto horses, surfing down stairs..... ;) Maybe she just had to tell Legolas to "get over himself". :)

[ImDaMom]

WAIT WAIT.....there's the answer- they're cousins!!!! That explains the whole thing, unless Lothlorien is in W Virginia (just a little regional humor there. ;)

[Khamul]

Haha. I heard theres a lot of that sort of thing goes on round that neck of the woods! lol Is that the sort of place where theres all the trailer parks? roflmao

[ImDaMom]

Well, if you want to call them that. We call them tornado targets.

[Celebrían]

lol Although that's funny, I don't think when Galadriel said in FOTR:EE (to Legolas upon giving him the bow of the Galadhrim) "worthy of the skill of our Woodland kin", she meant that they were relatives, just that they were both of the same race (at least that's what I took it to mean). Does that make sense? :huh:

[Grima Wormtongue]

Originally posted by imdamom55
WAIT WAIT.....there's the answer- they're cousins!!!! That explains the whole thing, unless Lothlorien is in W Virginia (just a little regional humor there. ;)
but aren't aragorn and arwen cousins, like if you go waaaaaaay down the ancestry, aren't they like 35851th cousins?

[Celebrían]

Yes they are! You're right, Grima! If you go waaaaaay back, Arwen and Aragorn share a common ancestor. Good observation! :thumbs:

[Elf angel]

Originally posted by imdamom55
Interesting posit, Celebrian. Maybe they did meet and didn't hit it off ("Oh Legolas, why can't we get together?" "I'm sorry Arwen- I can't start a relationship with anyone who's not at least as pretty as I am.") :)

lol

[Lasgalen]

Originally posted by imdamom55
WAIT WAIT.....there's the answer- they're cousins!!!! That explains the whole thing, unless Lothlorien is in W Virginia (just a little regional humor there. ;)
Actually Aragorn and Arwen are sort of cousins also. Elrond's brother (Elros) is the ancestor of Aragorn.

-Lasgalen

[Alatar]

lol dont tell me Aragorn is gonna be an inbred:)

[Winyaél Greenleaf]

I've heard this saying that Thranduil married one of Celeborn's daughters (like Elrond did) I don't know how true is it. In fact, I've never seen such a thing in the appendics, but if that's true, then Arwen and Legolas will be cousins too.


Originally posted by imdamom55
Maybe they did meet and didn't hit it off ("Oh Legolas, why can't we get together?" "I'm sorry Arwen- I can't start a relationship with anyone who's not at least as pretty as I am.") :)

I like your idea, imdamom :thumbs:

[Celebrían]

Originally posted by Winyaél Greenleaf
I've heard this saying that Thranduil married one of Celeborn's daughters (like Elrond did) I don't know how true is it. In fact, I've never seen such a thing in the appendics, but if that's true, then Arwen and Legolas will be cousins too.

I like your idea, imdamom

Really? Where did you read that Thranduil married one of Celeborn's daughters? If that's true, that would explain it all!

[Celebrían]

I don't know why that didn't work right. :duh: Oh well....I think you still get what I wanted to say.

[Illuvatar]

Hehehe...I fixed itlol

You must close your code statements with [/b] for example......

[Celebrían]

Thanks, Illu! :thumbs:

[Lasgalen]

I thought Celeborn only had one daughter- the one that married Elrond. But I have heard that Celeborn and Thranduil are related so Legolas and Arwen might still be distant cousins.

-Lasgalen

[SindarinGirl]

Originally posted by Lasgalen
Actually Aragorn and Arwen are sort of cousins also. Elrond's brother (Elros) is the ancestor of Aragorn.

-Lasgalen

I found a family tree in the Silmarillion and was kind of shocked to see that, technically, Elrond is Aragorn's uncle, but over what, like 20 some generations?

Maybe that's why Elrond is so against Arwen marrying Aagorn - He wants to avoid all the inbred / West Virginia jokes! lol

(For the record - I love West Virginia - it's one of the most pristine wildernesses left in this country. :thumbs: )

[Winyaél Greenleaf]

This is such a confusing topic lol

[Celebrían]

Originally posted by Lasgalen
I thought Celeborn only had one daughter- the one that married Elrond. But I have heard that Celeborn and Thranduil are related so Legolas and Arwen might still be distant cousins.

-Lasgalen

So did I, but I am by no means the LOTR scholar that some people are on this site! So Celeborn and Thranduil are related? Would they be distant cousins, then? :huh:

[Windwater Elf]

Heh! I think that Legolas and Arwen are very distantly related and for that matter Arwen and Aragorn as well. I am sure that there are some hardworking people here who will try to trace the family tree of these three. I am too lazy to do that.

In fact, Legolas would be suitable for Arwen as he is also a royalty.

[Celebrían]

Yes, he would. Good point! They are (Aragorn and Legolas) both of royal blood, therefore Arwen would do well to marry either. Of course she would have to forsake her immortality to marry Aragorn, so that's not exactly a "plus." :(

[David D]

The reason I hold for them not marrying is that Legolas was really nothing special for an elf. He was ofcourse related to Thingol, but he was not a direct descendent. Aragorn was a direct descendent from both Fingolfin and Thingol. Therefore though he was a man he had a greater lineage than Legolas. Aragorn being raised in Rivendell would likely share the same culture as Arwen, perhaps leading to their relationship. Aragorn, when he decided to reveal his glory, was very fair and like an elf lord.

Therefore since Aragorn is most likely just as fair as Legolas, shares a similar culture to her, a man wise from travelling the land and of a higher lineage there is no real suprise that she chose Aragorn.

[Celebrían]

That makes sense......

[ImDaMom]

Hey...it was love. Who can explain why we love who we love? Maybe Arwen had a bad experience with an elf lover....maybe she just wanted to try something different...whatever.

[Celebrían]

Yeah, I know...I was just interested to get ideas from all of you guys. Anybody else have some input?