How old is Eowyn meant to be

[DudeOfGondor]

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[Catz]

ok........Eowyn was born in year 2995 of the third age and she meets Aragorn in year 3019(march) so that makes her 24 when she meets Aragorn for the first time
:catz:

[A! Elbereth]

Only 24! I didn't think to see how old she was... :blush: :o

[Winyaél Greenleaf]

But Aragorn's real old... lol

[ImDaMom]

When he meets Eowyn, Aragorn (b.2931) is 64 years older than her, so he is 88 at the time. HMMMMMMMM....88 year old and a 24 year old. :lol:

[Bonos-Girl]

it happens...usually when the 24 year old is after money...but it must happen sometimes cos they like each other....or not....lol

[TheRingBearer]

wow Aragorn is meant to be that old in the books. I'd never have thought it :grin:

[Warrior Alien]

Apparentely, Numenoreans don't show their age.

[ImDaMom]

Not only them but Frodo as the journey begins is 50, Sam is 38, Merry is 36 and Pippin is 29. Hobbits don't age too much, either.

[Mirkgirl]

Well yes the Numenorean aged unlike the other Men... this quote from a note in the UT might explain it best, both Aragorn's age and his death.
It is further expounded that the increase in the Númenórean span was brought about by assimilation of their mode of life to that of the Eldar: though they were expressly warned that they had not become Eldar, but remained mortal Men, and had been granted only an extension of the period of their vigour of mind and body. Thus (as the Eldar) they grew at much the same rate as other Men, but when they had achieved "full-growth" they then aged, or "wore out," very much more slowly. The first approach of "world-weariness" was indeed for them a sign that their period of vigour was nearing its end. When it came to an end, if they persisted in living, then decay would proceed, as growth had done, no more slowly than among other Men. Thus a Númenórean would pass quickly, in ten years maybe, from health and vigour of mind to decrepitude and senility. In the earlier generations they did not "cling to life," but resigned it voluntarily. "Clinging to life," and so in the end dying perforce and involuntarily, was one of the changes brought about by the Shadow and the rebellion of the Númenóreans; it was also accompanied by a shrinking of their natural life-span.

As to the hobbits, they 'come of age' at 33, and the oldest one before Bilbo, the old Took reached 130

[Lorien]

You also have to remember Frodo didn't age because of the ring!!!!!! :elfqueen:

[ImDaMom]

I think more that Bilbo didn't age due to the ring. Frodo really didn't have it long enough- only 17 years (book version)- not very long, in the power of the ring.

[TheRingBearer]

Apparently Frodo is one year older than Boromir at the time ;)

[A! Elbereth]

Originally posted by imdamom55
I think more that Bilbo didn't age due to the ring. Frodo really didn't have it long enough- only 17 years (book version)- not very long, in the power of the ring.

Though the ring's power obviously became a lot stronger while he had it...;)

We all know though, that Frodo wouldn't have aged anyway lol

[Frodo's Love]

Mirkgirl, thank you for the quote! :thumbs: I wasn't aware of the "slowlier" aging of the Númenórean.
Éowyn was only 24 when she met Aragorn? I would have given her a few years more... ;)

[Arwen, Elven Princes]

Faramir Is 36, 12 years older than Eowyn.

[Lady Ashley]

Quote: "Éowyn was only 24 when she met Aragorn? I would have given her a few years more..."

Well, you're looking at Miranda Otto, who is in her 30's, though at a good many points in the film does not look her true age. So movie Eowyn would look slightly older than she supposed to be.

[ImDaMom]

And here's an interesting thought....if Bilbo's party happened 17 years before the quest, and Pippin was 29 years old when he was at Gondor, he had to have been 12 years old at the party. Just a bit young, don't you think???

[Frodo's Love]

You're right with that, Lady Ashley. Movie Éowyn looks older than 24 in my eyes... but even while reading the books I imagined her a bit older. Therefore my reaction to that. I've read the appendices over again and figured out how old everyone was during the quest.
I found it hard to imagine that Boromir was ten years younger than Frodo for example.
Perhaps that's because I saw FOTR before reading the books?

imdamom, you're surely right with that. Pip should have looked like a child on Bilbo's birthday in the movie... But PJ didn't point out the fact that there were 17 years between Bilbo's party and the quest. I was surely surprised when I read about that for the first time!
(Sorry for getting a bit off-topic :blush: )

[Mocha]

The movie sure didn't feel like it was set on a 17years basis...:huh:

[legolastheawesome]

true...it seemed as though there was no time between Bilbo's party.

Isn't Eowyn suposed to be 23 in the books? I am not good with thier ages.

[ImDaMom]

In the movie, the best guess would be 1 year between party and quest. Gandalf hurries to Gondor, which, we learn later, is a journey of at least 40 days from Rivendell, which is quite a ways from Hobbiton. So if the party is Sept 22, and Gandalf heads off to Gondor and returns, and when Frodo wakes in Rivendell G says "It's October the 24 if you want to know"...it has to be at least 1 year. But there's no way Frodo is 50, nor Aragorn 88, unless ages show different in ME. (If so, I'm heading there before I get to be 50) lol

[Ireth]

Yes me too!
Though if Aragorn is 88 how old is Arwen?
And Legolas and Gimli
I don't remember seeing the year Legolas was born..

[legolastheawesome]

the lifespan of the race of Numenor is what...? ummm 200 years...so really, aragorn is still somewhat of a stud. lol lol

Arwen? guessing about 2,127 years...she is an elf...and Legolas? I am NOT sure.

[Mirkgirl]

We never knew the age of Legolas...

the appendixes say that Gimli was born at TA 2879 at the time of the fellowship... which was TA 3018-9, he is 139-140

Arwen is born TA 241... that makes her 2777-2778

[Lady Ashley]

Oh, I see what you mean now, Frodo's Love. Sorry.

Now with seeing the movies, it's extremely hard to imagine Frodo to be 50-51 years old now. Most of the characters are now movie-ish in my brain when reading the books. Except Merry and Pippin. I just can't see movie Merry and Pippin doing some of the stuff their book counter-parts are going to do.

Wow, 12 at the Party. Interesting. Very young. (even by hobbits' standards.) And Mirky's right...no one has the slightest idea how old Legolas is. (Gosh, why did he have to be left out?? lol)

[Frodo's Love]

It's quite interesting that I first had the movie-characters in my head when I started to read the books. But while I was reading further it slowly changed. I pictured e.g. Frodo looking older and being more experienced, and Aragorn looks also a bit different in my imagination. So I've got a "vision" of book- and movie-characters... lol

The Encyclopedia of Arda (http://www.glyphweb.com/arda/default.htm) says that Legolas' date of birth is not known. :mmmm:

[Ireth]

Yes they always seem to leave poor Legolas out! Oh Well! I think he is the oldest in the fellowship...even older than Gandalf I think....although I am not sure.

[ImDaMom]

I don't believe Legolas is older than Gandalf. He's brought over to ME at the very beginning of the third age, as the darkness begins to fall over Mirkwood, and Thranduil is listed as King at the time. (Silmarillion) We also learn that they were sent by the Valar to resist Sauron, so they had to have been around for quite a while (Unfinished Tales)

[Mirkgirl]

Well Legolas acts as a young elf... I don't think he could be older than Arwen for sure.....

Gandalf (and the other istari) come to ME around TA 1000... so I guess he's older...

But ofc Gandalf is a Maia so he's older than Arda itself

[Ireth]

hhhmmmm...thats interesting...well if Legolas isn't older than Arwen then why isn't his birth in the book as Arwens is?

[Mirkgirl]

Well Tolkien never did tell us much about Legolas... my personal opinion is that he was there more like a symbol than a character, so he didnt bother to give more info about him.

We don't even know whether he was blond btw... Thranduil is tho. And whether he is the only/firstborn kid...ie heir

[Miruvor]

And Sam should be about 15 years younger that Frodo, but he looks older.
And Sam and Faramir I think, were the same age.

[ImDaMom]

12 or 15- depends on where you look. Frodo was born in 1368 (SR), 2968 (TA) ,and Sam was born in 1380 (SR) , according to the family trees. In appendix b, tho, Sam's bday (TA) is in 2983, along with Faramir. I wonder where those extra 3 years came from?? I don't know about Sam, but I sure don't want 3 extra years added to my age lol

[Ireth]

ha ha ha...thats funny

[DudeOfGondor]

Boy all that make up Miranda Otto's face makes her look like 20 years old