European Football/Soccer Players and Fans Unite!

[Eowyn of Rohan]

oh Ellie...I'm reaching sideral temperatures! :o
thanks for beeing by my side! I need to take an aspirin...or I'll faint before the game! :nono: ;)

[Elanor_dh]

Nooo, you can't!!! :o Maybe try something for calming down? Some tea or... no, the potion is not a good option after my yesterday's experiences lol roflmao

[Eowyn of Rohan]

I know I should try and think of something else...but but I can't...HELP!!!

[Elanor_dh]

Poor EoR :cuddles: I don't know how to help you... I'm living quite far away from you :huh: ;)

[Eowyn of Rohan]

Oh Ellie...I'll calm down! don't worry! I just need time :blush:
the probles is that i'm alone in the office and got nothing else to think about!

[Andy]

Champions League Final tonight!
I would like to see Liverpool win it because they are English, but I generally don't like Scousers

[Domlegolas]

It is hard to calm down...
EoR, dont worry it is normal to be nervous before the match starts.
I always be nervous before MU starts the match, mostly I smoke a lot of ciggs before and during the match (no health :nono: ) but I cant help it.
After that I will feel very great or awful, depends...
Ellie, nice that u wants to best for EoR :thumbs:
Around five hours will start the match, so I will be ready to watch at tv :cool:

Maradona is there to see the match... And many fans did song "Just like a team, that's gonna win the Champions League - we shall not be moved" for Liverpool but I tried to find information about Milan but I didnt find at newspapers (swedish)....

Andy, I understand u completely and I am doing it the same thing!! lol but if Milan wins, so I just happy for Milan.
My favor is Gerrard for National team ;)

Best I stop to bla bla.... let me wait until the match starts ;)

:rose: no matter what will happen!!!!!
:grouphug:

[Domlegolas]

Ohhh, it was so hot match!! But in the same time unbelieve!!

I was so surprised by Maldini at 1 min to make a goal.. WOW as I thought then Crespo made two goals... During 15 minutes' break, so I started to think of Liverpool fans and I corcerned about them what do they will do after the match, I didnt would like if they will destroy somewhere in Istanbul but in the same time I thought of EoR, and I was so SURE that she was soo happy somewhere in Milan to celebrate, but when match starts again.... Surprised by Gerrard and Hidenmann (wrong last name??) in six minutes for three goals, unbelieved!!!
I was soo surprised!! "with open mouth"...
Wow... I believed that all fans did bit thears nails lol then 15 mins add, and then last another 15 mins, so Schevniko (no right spell name, I know ;) ) made ALMOST goal but Dudek was there.. Wow.. It was 118 mins...
Penalty kick (I dislike it)...
Unexpected that Milan missed two goals....
I am so happy that Liverpool wins because I feel that they deserve it a lot, (they "frusterade" in English Premiere League for several years) but in the same time I am thinking of EoR right now.... No easy for her,,...
I am so sorry but u did win last year ;)

I just want to show this picture as I found it at swedish newspaper, and it is cool so I want to share with u all... Nice background - Istanbul :) with tatoo as u see it..
http://www.warofthering.net/photoforum/showphoto.php?photo=11449

And this.... Gerrard :hyper: !!!!!!!!!
http://www.warofthering.net/photoforum/showphoto.php?photo=11450

I see many photos of Milan fans, ohh... It hurts.. Many cries.. :(
I dont want EoR or other who LOVES Milan to think that I am happy Milan lost today, no way!!!
Keep mind like "You'll never go alone" :thumbs: because u are still with Milan!! :rose:
U all know which teams I REALLY LOVE and CRAZY!!!!!!!! MU ;)

:rose: and :grouphug:

[Anarion]

mecry

How did Dudek get away with all that during the penalty shoot out?? Maybe the jumping up and down could be seen as "Ehhhh. Okay, just don't do that again", but the ref didn't even talk to him about it! And Pirlo's penalty? He was WAY off his line!!

Gah. Maybe I'm just being bitter :rolleyes: , but GAH.

[Domlegolas]

mecry

How did Dudek get away with all that during the penalty shoot out?? Maybe the jumping up and down could be seen as "Ehhhh. Okay, just don't do that again".

Honest, when I see him to jump up and down.. some steps was looking like dance, so I laughed and thought what does he is doing??!!#^!!**##!!**#???
But in the same time I was so surprised that he saved balls...

[Eowyn of Rohan]

mecry

How did Dudek get away with all that during the penalty shoot out?? Maybe the jumping up and down could be seen as "Ehhhh. Okay, just don't do that again", but the ref didn't even talk to him about it! And Pirlo's penalty? He was WAY off his line!!

Gah. Maybe I'm just being bitter :rolleyes: , but GAH.
The fact is that we shouldn't have gone to the penalty shoots. Their 2nd goal was given after an off side.
and their 3rd goal was from a non-existent penalty.

We were fouls but, you can't tell me that liverpool deserved this cup

[Domlegolas]

Honest... I did think what EoR wrote recently.....
I am really feeling so bad that I wrote Liverpool deserves... because they frusterade in EPL..
EPL and CL isnt the same thing, I cant think of them together.
My mistaking.....
Sorry again.... :rose:

!PEACE!

[Eowyn of Rohan]

yes Dom PEACE! Just give me 5 minutes to be angry..
you just can't imagine the atmosphere in Italy today..all the poeple that untill a couple of minutes ago were saying that Milan was a great team now throw mud on us!
I know, this is soccer, it's always been like that but it's so depressing!

[Domlegolas]

Sometimes it isnt fair.... sometimes it is sooo difficult with life...
Oh... now I dont have any word... But Maldini was so good!!!!!! Also other..

Now I go to bed... (4am here)... and good morning, Europe!!

PEACE
:rose:

[Charmander]

:cuddles: Eowyn, I was thinking of you last night - I got home from work and the match was on and I was all :hyper: but then :( when the shoot-out started... it was an excellent match though :)

[Eowyn of Rohan]

Thanks Poke-Charm!
You've been all very sweet! but I feel so :sneezy: today..

[Elanor_dh]

Oh, Eowyn, I'm here to tell you that I was trying sooo hard to support you. I was so nervous during the whole match! And still I think that your team was a lot better! I'm so sorry mecry :cuddles:

[Bawax]

Yes you were the one that said you didn't think West Ham would get this far and I told you to be positive. Turns out we should have switched attitudes but I still had hope!

When is the match anyway?
lol its amazing how i've changed in the space of a couple of days.

we're playing on monday, i was going to get tickets but was too late, the only ones i could get were being sold by some scummy bloke for £400 for 2. :(

i'll be watching from my local instead. :beer:

[Eowyn]

ah but at least in your local you can drink ;) can't do that whilst watching it if you go there lol

[Domlegolas]

Oh la la!!! England won two times (international friendly) against Usa-last saturday and Columbia-last tuesday!! :cuddles:
This weekend many national teams will have matchs for quality World Cup 2006, I dont know which national teams tv will show...I am like :blink: .....

EoR, someone of my friend told me about ur favor player,Schenvicho (wrong spell :( ) is thinking to move to Arsenal or Chelsea...
??? Did u hear anything??

Also Figo is thinking about MU or Liverpool.... Lets see.... I never thought of him to move into EPL (English Premiere Leaguge).... but he is a fair player :thumbs:

[Andy]

Domlegolas ~ Shevchenko won't be leaving Milan unless they get paid a lot of money, probably a new transfer record. Figo has been linked with Utd for years now and I'd love to see him end his career here. But, the last news I heard was they were offering him in a swap deal for Christiano Ronaldo which is a definate no.

[Domlegolas]

Thanks Andy :thumbs:

It still talks about Figo,(I dont mind to have him there, I respect him a lot) so I am just keeping an eye. Also during summer trends to talk about sell/buy.... Lets see :rose:

[Anarion]

For all Kaka supporters...

From acmilan.com:

MILAN - According to Gazzetta dello Sport and ANSA, Kaka revealed that he will marry with his historical girlfriend Caroline Celico, 17, after the 2006 World Cup. The declarations would be made in an interview on television station Globo Tv: 'I will marry after the World Cup, I hope as a champion.' The pair have been together for four years.
The way it's worded makes it seem a little suspicious, but if it's true....*sigh* well....as long as they're happy! Congratulations!! :thumbs:

[Eowyn of Rohan]

EoR, someone of my friend told me about ur favor player,Schenvicho (wrong spell :( ) is thinking to move to Arsenal or Chelsea...
??? Did u hear anything??
Sheva is not going anywhere, Milan is not like Juve; we care about our players and since Andriy doesn't want to be "sold" you can be sure that he will be with us forever!

For all Kaka supporters...

From acmilan.com:

MILAN - According to Gazzetta dello Sport and ANSA, Kaka revealed that he will marry with his historical girlfriend Caroline Celico, 17, after the 2006 World Cup. The declarations would be made in an interview on television station Globo Tv: 'I will marry after the World Cup, I hope as a champion.' The pair have been together for four years.


The way it's worded makes it seem a little suspicious, but if it's true....*sigh* well....as long as they're happy! Congratulations!! :thumbs:

yeah...congrats...but my heart will cry a lot! Anyway Ricardo is an amazing guy..I wish him all the best :smooch:

[Elanor_dh]

*cough* cough* Forgive me, that it will be a little off topic. Eowyn of Rohan, can I take you with me now? :hyper: *Finally?* You know which thread I have on my mind ... :flamer:

[Eowyn of Rohan]

Ellie!!! I run to the EFOC!!! gimme the time to read what I missed and we get back more obsessed than ever!!!
PS to be on topic...I saw Brazil Paraguay...what am amazing match by my Kakino!!! :grin:

[Domlegolas]

Curious if some of u did or still doing to follow up Europe Champion for Women in England?
Me, I didnt follow up until recently I watched at tv and programme showed it - out of blue for me to watch at England and Sweden.
I never really like Women football but I am myself woman :blink: roflmao but just it is different style.... also it is "new" to have women football, so I am possible not used and it takes time....
Curious if some of u still like women football or??

[Lady Arwen]

ah you know wot Dom?i feel the same about women soccer!!i dont know for some reason i never really got into watchin it that much...(even tho one of my fav movies of all time is Bend it like Beckham which is also about women soccer lol)...

[Andy]

Man Utd have bought Edwin Van Der Saar!
Finally, we might have solved our keeper crisis

[Lady Arwen]

lol funny cos my father the other day told me about this and he was like Wow, so do they want to start loosin for real?? lol he is a Juve fan and Van der Saar used to play there some time ago...and my father soo didnt like him!lol
i hope for you my fahter is wrong (he mostly is, so call yourself lucky!lol)

[Anarion]

Edwin Van der Sar...meet your new teammate, Cristiano Ronaldo. lol

http://storage.msn.com/x1pNWjjkHJ3o_yWlQ3bpjA5hFFAsz0o4DxUyDFjCEPuovWVl3d ZJBDoe6n355qMmNNpSYsqKgAeLfG28O29n-pY_qZZopcvcMKh-eQdNaQ_2SOdFUjbsC5EcysoA2QHnGk0

[Domlegolas]

Lady Arwen, yes Bend it like Beckham. It is cool and I like it. :thumbs:
Andy, finally that MU have another new keeper but I dont like him, humm... So I hope he will improve himself better in MU :p
Anarion, roflmao cool picture!!!!!!!!!!

[Eowyn of Rohan]

When Edwin Van der Sar left Juve their supporter where quite happy..in Italy he was famous for bad performances, but maybe in these years he trained and now he's better...who knows??

[Domlegolas]

Yeah, thats why I dont like him..... but lets see if he will improve himself... It has to because he is enough older lol
Just wait until autumn semester starts, then lets see.... And I am keeping an eye on him :shhh:

[Eowyn of Rohan]

Yeah, let's wait for the next season..I don't like all these useless summer conferences that newspapers and TV do one soccer.
Better watch the played part of the game!

[Andy]

At least he will have the pre-season tour to gt used to playing with his team mates

I know he isn't the best keeper around, but he makes less mistakes that Carrol and Howard

[Lady Arwen]

lol thats cos youve never had Inter's goalie lol that one surely isnt the best around!LOL!

[Andy]

Toldo? Yeah he is a classy keeper. I would like to see him at United as well, but I can't see Inter selling him

[Domlegolas]

Andy,yeah Edwin Van Der Saar is better than Carroll!!! and Howard..
Toldo,oh yes.... I would like to have him in MU,so I will jump of happeniess :whoohoo: but it is just a dream :p

[Eowyn of Rohan]

Toldo? Yeah he is a classy keeper. I would like to see him at United as well, but I can't see Inter selling him
this is not a far from reality case! I think Inter is looking for a more reliable goal keeper.

[Lady Arwen]

you want him??really????*calls Inter up and tells em they found some ppl interested in that idiot...eehr.. i meant goalie* lol

guys, its so random but i realised while on the bus that if Eire is gonna play a friendly against Italy next September...it means that i can see my boyz in green on tv at last !!!!lol i know i will probably stop watchin the match before half of the game bcos me and my father will have already started shoutin but still the thought is nice....i only have to wait till september now!lol!

[Eowyn of Rohan]

you want him??really????*calls Inter up and tells em they found some ppl interested in that idiot...eehr.. i meant goalie* lol
Arwen, you maybe would not believe me but there was a period in which I loved Toldo - one single match I think in European championship - and that was when Italy played vs. Holland. (the year in which we gained the final vs. France)
but then after that match he went to Inter and...puff...suddenly he was an *enemy* lol

[Lady Arwen]

lol oh dear, i remember that match :rolleyes: i was in Dublin with one of those organised groups for the summer schools and they took us to see the match some place on a big screen...i was the only one who didnt care about the match along wiht a Russian girl who used to stay with our group for some reason so they let us go and roam around the city centre and ended up as good friends after that!lol

oh and i remember readin about disappointment about the buyin-sellin season that is starting...agree about it!!!i mean the year that i spent my weekends just watchin the premier league when the season was over i felt like Ok and now?wot do i do till nxt august?!lol

[Eowyn of Rohan]

wot do i do till nxt august?!lol
well, you can start enjoying tonight's match vs. Roma and then we can close ourselves into a fridge untill the beginning of the next season!!! lol

[Lady Arwen]

:rofl: dont think we'll need a fridge tho..its freezin enuff here these days!btw i was wonderin...will it snow today?!lol remember our often canceled meetings due to snow?!heeh!

ah well..you know the rumours of Del Piero goin to some English club? i was so hopin for it!at least father would let me watch teh Premiership again...he doesnt let me anymore...mecry

[Eowyn of Rohan]

:rofl: dont think we'll need a fridge tho..its freezin enuff here these days!btw i was wonderin...will it snow today?!lol remember our often canceled meetings due to snow?!heeh!
lol that's true! it's pretty cold indeed, but NO MORE SNOW PLEEEASE! :grin:

ah well..you know the rumours of Del Piero goin to some English club? i was so hopin for it!at least father would let me watch teh Premiership again...he doesnt let me anymore...mecry
I've heard rumors about him leaving Juventus, but since I don't care about his movements! :blush: but I hope for you that he goes to England!!!

Ps I almost forgot, today there's the first match of the Confederation's Cup... Argentina vs. Tunisia....hope that "our" Crespo will play!!!! :grin:

[Lady Arwen]

ohh...yay for Argentina!!!hehe!!wait....Zanetti is Argentinian too aint he??*rofl* i soo know Inter players!lol

[Eowyn of Rohan]

If I remember also Kily Gonzales and Cordoba should play!

[Witch-king of Angmar]

If I remember also Kily Gonzales and Cordoba should play!

I don't think Cordoba is form Argentina :p :nono:

[Lady Arwen]

Witch-King, i just checked *jee wot am i doin?* and i think heis Argentinian...well after all Còrdoba is an Argentinian city too hehe!

anyway...wot you doin here instead of watchin the match?!lol

[Eowyn of Rohan]

that's it...the cousins actually won something...be prepared: now we'll get frogs from the sky and 2 suns rising!!!! lol

[Lady Arwen]

excuse me?!lol did someone say somethin?!
and wots more...i mean...Roma...havent been followin the Serie A a lot but from wot ive heard it wasnt the best team around...Pupone or not Pupone *rofl sorry couldnt help it*..at least thats wot a little bird told me ;)

[Eowyn of Rohan]

at least thats wot a little bird told me ;)
lol you couldn't help saying this as well, could you? lol
But you know..Pupone was already thinking about his royal marriage! do you really think that for him the Coppa Italia was more important?? :nono: lol

[Lady Arwen]

lol jee, your right!teh marriage for friends and family......and SKY tv subscribers!!!!

and...yeah...caught red-handed...i couldnt help it either!!

[Eowyn of Rohan]

lol jee, your right!teh marriage for friends and family......and SKY tv subscribers!!!!
Jeez, what a lack of style..he transformed his marriage into a national holiday :nono:

[Lady Arwen]

Jeez, what a lack of style..
who are we talkin about, hon?Er Pupone!!!aka Mr lack of style, lack of intelligence, lack of everything except stupidity!lol

oops!!that was a bit harsh, wasnt it?but kinda true!hehe!

[Eowyn of Rohan]

let's say he's not a Nobel, but one thing that I like of him (apart from soccer) is that he can laugh of himself.
to be honest I think that in Rome he's considered a God on earth and this can corrupt people's mind, so probably is the place in which he lives and play who has to be blamed the most.

[Lady Arwen]

lol he's not a Nobel!hehe!
your right about that anyway...its quite the same problem for any young footballer tho i think...as soon as they are discovered to be good at their game ppl start makin Gods out of them and if they dont have solid values it all goes to their head much to their disadvantage of course...*arent we gettin a bit too much philosophical now?!lol*

[Eowyn of Rohan]

*arent we gettin a bit too much philosophical now?!lol*
absolutely!!! lol
Now that I think about it....it's quite a while since I don't say FORZA MILAN!!!!
After what happened It was like "I'm dreaming...this is hell"...now, well, it's still like that, but I'm more calm and I can even say Istanbul! (and it's a HUGE step for me!! lol )

[Witch-king of Angmar]

Witch-King, i just checked *jee wot am i doin?* and i think heis Argentinian...well after all Còrdoba is an Argentinian city too hehe!

anyway...wot you doin here instead of watchin the match?!lol

And by the way Cordoba is from Colombia :p

[Lady Arwen]

really? *:trout: silly site she checked the other nite* but it said he played for San Lorenzo (yay, addin insult to injury since that's the team Viggo is honorary member of!LOL!)...and kept talkin about Argentina...mmmhh...never trust italian sites, i should have known it ;)

[Eowyn of Rohan]

rnever trust italian sites, i should have known it ;)
lol come on don't be so negative! It's so difficult to follow all players Inter bought in these years! :p

[Lady Arwen]

lol yeah thats for sure...esp cos i dont follow them!haha!i could hardly remember about Javier Zanetti and he is my favourite player!lol

[Anarion]

I was looking through some old tapes that I have and I found a really old Milan game from 2001, so I decided, "Ohh. This looks like fun!" until I discovered that it was the game during which Sheva broke his nose!! :o

OW. :-/ I'll have to find some pictures to post later, it looked particularly painful.

But on a lighter note, Kaka scored for Brazil against Argentina in the Confederations Cup final! Good game, though I felt for Argentina after a while.... now here's to hoping Chelsea doesn't get their hands on Adriano!!

http://eur.news1.yimg.com/eur.yimg.com/ng/sp/empics/2472426

[Eowyn of Rohan]

Hi Anarion! Glad to see you..It's quite a while since you don't visit us!! :grin:
Kakà confederations performance was amazing..I knew he would have scored!!! :yahoo: I'm really happy! :grin:
as for the pics of Sheva's injuries...please don't post them...it makes me so sad to see him in pain!!! :( + it reminds me of the pretty serious injury he had this season when he broke his cheekbones..

[Witch-king of Angmar]

I agree with you EoR, the match last night was SPECTACULAR!!! :thumbs:
I don't think Adriano will leave Inter at least not this year.

[Lady Arwen]

guys!!!!i need a shoulder to cry on!!!actually one shoulder aint enough im afraid....
Vieri might move to Spurs!!!!i mean, no problem in that if they give Robs away...but Vieri and Robs in the same team...no way!!!!Robs will never play again....even tho im not sure Vieri can keep up with the English soccer pace...i mean....we know who "el gordo" is in soccer but he aint that far either!!!lol sorry im just too depressed!!!!!!Robs cant sit on a bench!!pls go to Celtic, Baby Irish!!!pls!!!!lol!

[Eowyn of Rohan]

oh I'm sorry for you Arwen.. :-/
I just read that he's officially not an Inter player anymore...which is good for you :p if you want my opinion he will go to Fiorentina...nearer to his home and in the same team of his great friend Brocchi!!

[Lady Arwen]

thanks hon!lets hope so!
i checked Spurs site now and they say nothing about the whole issue...i mean he would silly to accept such an offer...if he is the great player he wants the world to think Spurs is so not the right place for his career!lol well not that inter was anyway!lol

[Domlegolas]

Ohhh???? I am thinking that I amlost again...(as usual)?? :blink:
lol
Vieri??? Might move to Spurs?? Tottenham???.... Impossible for me to imagine it...
If anything news about him,please report it... :rose: lol :p :cuddles:

[Anarion]

Hi Anarion! Glad to see you..It's quite a while since you don't visit us!! :grin: Glad to see you too, Eowyn!! :grin:

Hmm, but for Vieri, take your pick of interested clubs -- Fiorentina, Juve, Milan, Bolton (hah!), Spurs, Newcastle (also reported to be after Figo.... :blink: ), Sevilla, and (of course) Real Madrid. I'd like to see him go to Fiorentina, but I think Spain is more likely.

Anyone watch the FIFA World Youth Championship? Argentina 2 - 1 Nigeria in the final, Messi looked wonderful!! Apparently, Barca have now thrown a $150 million buy-out clause :rolleyes: into his contract.

I don't think Adriano will leave Inter at least not this year. With people like Roman Abramovich, who knows??

[Eowyn of Rohan]

Hmm, but for Vieri, take your pick of interested clubs -- Fiorentina, Juve, Milan, Bolton (hah!), Spurs, Newcastle (also reported to be after Figo.... :blink: ), Sevilla, and (of course) Real Madrid. I'd like to see him go to Fiorentina, but I think Spain is more likely.
He can go wherever he wants, but this means that he doesn't have to get near MILAN!!!!! He's not what we need...we have to bring Crespo back and get Gilardino. He and Shevchenko will be our "magic couple"!!!
PS I've heard that Van Nistelrooy wants to leave MU for Milan...is that true??

Anyone watch the FIFA World Youth Championship? Argentina 2 - 1 Nigeria in the final, Messi looked wonderful!! Apparently, Barca have now thrown a $150 million buy-out clause :rolleyes: into his contract.
You're totally right..Messi is an amazing player..but it looks like Barcellona can block all the good players around (Ronaldinho...my dream!!)

With people like Roman Abramovich, who knows??
Shevchenko..Kakà...Gattuso...Abramovich tried to buy all of our players and we shut the door every single time...it's true that he has loads of money but it's not everything...I think that Chelsea's is not a close club + Mourinho is unbearable and this can make the difference in a player choice!

[Witch-king of Angmar]

Nobody seems to like Maurinho! lol
Abramovich is asking players all over Europe and nobody wants to go there!
Even some of his players want to leave, Crespo and Drogba for exemple. :-/

[Eowyn of Rohan]

Even some of his players want to leave, Crespo and Drogba for exemple. :-/
My darling Valdanito...I can hear him crying from here! Bad bad Abramovich...let him go!!!

[Domlegolas]

PS I've heard that Van Nistelrooy wants to leave MU for Milan...is that true??
I heard too about him but he wants to stay at MU until 2007 or -08
but if MU will buy another new forward player. So it will be a lot of forward players, then Van Nistelrooy is the forward player as they dont mind to sell him..
Lets see....
:rose:

[Andy]

Van Nistelrooy won't go now, unless there is a mysterious "11th hour" Bid that is accepted.

If Utd buy any major names this season I can see it being Steven Gerrard from Liverpool. What an amazing talent he is!

On another good note, Park's work permit has been accpted so now his transfer to Utd can be completed

[Eowyn of Rohan]

It's quite a strange summer market...big names and loads of money promised but still nothing changed!
Since I am a bit curious..is there any Chelsea supporter here? I'd like to know what does he/she think about Mourinho & Abramovich!

[Witch-king of Angmar]

A.C. Milan :flamer: just bought Eleftheropoulos, is there any greek supporter who can tell us something about him? :)

[Andy]

Eowyn of Rohan ~ I'm not a Chelsea fan, but if I was I would feel a bit embarassed because they seem to be going for just about any player on the market, and gettig turned down. Thus becoming a bit of a laughing stock

[Eowyn of Rohan]

Me to Andy me too..
and now Mr. Abramovich is trying to disturb Milan's market in order to get Gilardino.
+ in my opinion keeping a player, Crespo, who badly wants to stay at Milan, is not good for him and for the team itself!

[Witch-king of Angmar]

Vieri just signed for A.C. Milan :flamer: ...
Let's hope he will score a lot of goals against Inter and Juve! :-/

Lady Arwen, Eowyn of Rohan wants to know if you are happy, because she says, and I quote, "Bleaaaaahhhhh!!!!!" end quote. ;)

[Lady Arwen]

roflmao well as they say One man's meat is another man's poison (wait...this somehow reminds me of the stew once again...ah well...forget my mental links...) well...no, im not happy actually...not at all....im simply...JUBILANT!!!!!!!lol sorry but...phewwww....that's been some hard times for me!lol
ah no worries, im sure he will score plenty of goals, esp against Inter...and never forget that usually those players that were just doing nothing while at Inter become some sort of super goleadores once they leave!lol thats the Inter-supporter-law...works very similar to Murphy's law actually!

[Domlegolas]

Andy, I want Gerrard so badly to play for MU :beg: :thud: :beg:
And I did read newspaper yesterday that he did quarrel with his coach and he started thinking to move to another team but no one suggest him with good money.....?????........ or it is just bla bla bla at newspapers lol
But I did hear that MU is thinking about Owen from Real Madrid (Ex Liverpool).. ??? Perhaps u know more than me,so I would like to know ;)

[Eowyn of Rohan]

Lady Arwen, Eowyn of Rohan wants to know if you are happy, because she says, and I quote, "Bleaaaaahhhhh!!!!!" end quote. ;)
Here I am to re-quote my previous quote...BLEAAAAAHHH I want crespo back!!! please sell Tomasson and bring the Valdanito back to Milan!!! mecry mecry

[Anarion]

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Gahh!! I hate Chelsea!!! verymad What is it about English clubs that make them think big name South American non-defenders play WELL in England??! They just DON'T. Veron, Crespo, Forlan, DOES NOBODY LEARN?? Crespo did not play well in England! He was not happy there! He considered ending his career because he didn't like it! Hell, his wife doesn't like England either!! Everytime he spoke about returning to Chelsea he stated quite clearly HE DID NOT WANT TO.

So why, why, why, why, why is Chelsea keeping him in England?!!!! mecry

</rant>

Generally speaking, of course...

Thankfully, Gerard has chosen to stay at Liverpool. (Sorry Dom!) MU certainly needs a more solid central midfield, but I can't ever see Gerard fitting in. I don't care much for Stevie (Alonso is far better), but it just so happens that the night that it appears in the press that Gerard asked to leave, Chelsea pops up at the same exact time with a £32 million bid for him.

Coincidence? I thinnk not.

Chelsea is bullying the transfer market and showing NO regard for FA regulations & rules (Cole, Obi, Arnesen, etc.). It's just nice to see someone as wanted as Gerard not bow down to money.

[Domlegolas]

Anarion lol about Gerrard.... :rose: ...
I prefer him to stay at Liverpool THAN move to Chelsea, NOOOO WAYY!!!
It is always nice to know that he is still value player ;)

I agree that Crespo didnt play so well in Chelsea, humm.... :blink: and I dont want him to go back to Chelsea...But where Forlan is right now??, I am always losing... mecry :huh:
Chelsea will come to Maryland, Usa to against a team from Washington DC in the end of July month....
pfbbt
But I will check it because of players as I want to know who before autumn semester starts..yeah if I still remember that they will come to Usa :wicked:

[Eowyn of Rohan]

I agree that Crespo didnt play so well in Chelsea, humm.... :blink: and I dont want him to go back to Chelsea...But where Forlan is right now??, I am always losing... mecry :huh:
I don't want him to go back to Chelsea either mecry he haad a great season in Milan this year... mecry

Chelsea will come to Maryland, Usa to against a team from Washington DC in the end of July month.... pfbbt
And Chelsea will play 2 matches vs Milan...will Crespo play for you?

[Domlegolas]

EoR,no idea about Crespo and Chelsea... I am not fan of Chelsea,abosulte not!!! lol but I can check it....

[Eowyn of Rohan]

Tnx Dom, but I guess that we will found this out soon since the matches are planned for the end of July! ;)

[Domlegolas]

EoR, recently I checked internet....so Crespo will be training at Chelsea at 11th July....
Also Chelsea and Milan will have match at 25th and 31th July.......
So I assume that Crespo will be at Chelsea's side after 11th...
Hummm....

[Eowyn of Rohan]

What a shame...we brought Vieri at Milan and left Crespo in England...I would have tryied and keep him...

[Anarion]

Forlan is at Villareal (in Spain), and his 25 goals helped push them into fourth place (a Champions League position -- '05 - '06 will mark Villareal's first ever appearance in the CL in history) and earned him the Pichichi for most goals scored in all of the top flight European leagues (he tied with Thierry Henry). And all this from the guy who scored 10 goals in two and a half years at Man U. Interestingly enough, Forlan says he wants to play for MU again. :p

July 31, 2004, Giants Stadium -- Crespo playing for Milan against Man U
July 31, 2005, Giants Stadium -- Crespo playing for Chelsea against Milan

*shivers*

What a difference a year can make.

[Domlegolas]

Oh, Vieri moved to Milan from Inter???? Really??
Thank u so much,so I know..... :cuddles:
But I remember that Vieri and Crespo played together in Inter,they were so good "partners". No one know what will go on with them at the field.... Always surprised......shocked....scared.....by them... :p
Great memroies of them together.... So,..it is so badly that they will not play together again... :(
Sorry..... Hummm.......

Happy for Forlan as he did a lot....He is so great!!!!! I sometimes miss him to be with MU.... Hopeful he can comeback....
Thanks, Anarion
Yeah,I see a year makes big different....wow..... Oh well...

[Eowyn of Rohan]

July 31, 2004, Giants Stadium -- Crespo playing for Milan against Man U
July 31, 2005, Giants Stadium -- Crespo playing for Chelsea against Milan

*shivers*

What a difference a year can make.
I agree Anarion...I don't care about the summer matches (they are just planned to brimg money to the team..) I fear about next CL...What about chelsea and Milan meeting in the first pool? :-/

Oh, Vieri moved to Milan from Inter???? Really?? Thank u so much,so I know.....
But I remember that Vieri and Crespo played together in Inter,they were so good "partners". No one know what will go on with them at the field.... Always surprised......shocked....scared.....by them...
yes Dom we "won" Vieri :-/ he and Crespo were together in Inter the year followin Ronaldo's fabulous escape...

[Anarion]

Because I feel like it: Transfer Updates!!

Hah. Looks like Figo is officially moving to Liverpool. I secretly hoped it'd be Newcastle...oh well. Kieran Richardson has allegedly been sold by Manchester Utd (why??? He is so promising!) for £3 million. But this is, thankfully, just a rumor.

Michael Ballack is (very) interested in playing for Man U. Yaay. He'd be a nice addition, but it does nothing for the club over the long term. In the next few years, him, Scholes, Keane, and Giggs will be retired/done. And who's going to hold up the midfield then? Darren Fletcher?? I think not.

In other news, Real Madrid are very interested in snatching up Rio Ferdinand, especially with his delay in signing a new contract with Man U. Hopefully, the ungrateful wench will hurry up and sign the darn thing, rendering all bids useless.

[Eowyn of Rohan]

Thanks for the updates Anarion! :)
I like Ballack too...he would be good for our soon to get retired defence! ;)
Today, I hope, will be the day of Gilardino signing for Milan. I can't wait to see him wearing our colours!!!

[Lady Arwen]

...sorry to interrupt but....
*starts singing* Happy birthday to you, happy birthday to you, happy birthday my dear beloved ROBBIE, happy birthday to you!! *tries to escape backstage wading thru rotten tomatoes and the likes*

well sorry but i so couldnt resist!!its my Baby Irish' 25th birthday today so...;)

[Domlegolas]

Ballack????Ohhh, I dont mind to have him in MU ;)
Lets see.....
Giggs is staying with MU two years more... Keane, I think that he is finishing with MU now but dont trust me, I can to be have wrong.... Scholes, more a few years but no idea how long....
Gerrard is promising to stay at Liverpool as he did sign the contract today..
Yeah, Figo..... I did hear but...no idea about him...
Rio and Ronaldo are delaying with their contracts all time... humm.. Worst of Rio, so I hopefully he can stay at MU....


Lady arwen, it is all right!!!! :thumbs: also it is nice to know his brithday :rose:

[Andy]

Anarion ~ I would happily take £3 million for Richardson. I've been watching him at Utd for at least 3 years now and he should have already broken into the first team, but he isn't good enough. I think he is on loan for a season at Celtic or rangers. I'm not too sure.

Domlegolas ~ Rio and Ronaldo will delay for a bit longer yet, it's just natural. They will sign eventually as both have publically said they want to stay.

I heard about Figo and Liverpool as well, but I now hear that Madrid are going back on their word and not letting him leave on a free transfer, but instead wanting Liverpool to pay for him. But Liverpool are refusing to give any money for him. But who knows.

[Anarion]

Andy, last season Richardson was loaned out to West Bromwich, but he's back for the 05/06 season. He certainly hasn't had a good showing for Manchester Utd, but based on a good performance for WBA, I think next year he might get a little more play time and more of a chance to prove himself.

The Parma/Milan/Gilardino deal is still (grr!) done resolved, with the price differential being £3 million (Milan offering £19, Parma wanting no less than £22). I agree with Galliani, though, that "there are sums football cannot sustain". *sigh*

But on another note -- for Milan supporters -- is it just me, or is Adriano Galliani the single most misquoted man ever? Or does he just talk out of his (cough) rear and retract/contradict every statement he makes about a day later? lol Just over the past week and a half (paraphrasing, obviously):
"Milan will not make any more transfers this summer"/"Err...wait, we're not out of the transfer market yet"
"Gilardino cost too much, we're not pursuing him"/"Err...wait, I said he was expensive, but we might buy him anyway".
Gaaah. Pick one or the other, the summer transfer window is stressful enough.

Fun steal of the day: In August 2003, Milan bag Kaka for a whopping £6 million. :grin: Wonder how much he's worth now...? ;)

[Eowyn of Rohan]

The Parma/Milan/Gilardino deal is still (grr!) done resolved, with the price differential being £3 million (Milan offering £19, Parma wanting no less than £22). I agree with Galliani, though, that "there are sums football cannot sustain". *sigh*
the deal is done. we expect to have Gilardino at Milanello for the first training session of the season on july the 14th..no official information yet, but this issue should be over! :grin:

But on another note -- for Milan supporters -- is it just me, or is Adriano Galliani the single most misquoted man ever?
Obviously you've never listened to Luciano Moggi's (Juventus market man) declarations! It's a way to keep all the doors open! ;)

Fun steal of the day: In August 2003, Milan bag Kaka for a whopping £6 million. :grin: Wonder how much he's worth now...? ;)
That's a good question but...why should we think about this :o ...we will NEVER sell him!! :grin:

PS Arwen..feel free to make birthday wishes whenever you want!

[Witch-king of Angmar]

As for Galliani, he must say what he says ;)
You can never be sure until a deal is done and must always try to lower the cost, so... :p

[Eowyn of Rohan]

Galliani knows how things go + we couldn't pay 35 millions for a player that, as good as he can get, is not Maradona or Pelè!

One favour to ask you english members: should you meet Mr. Abramovich (who doesn't) could you tell him to stop trying get OUR Shevchenko??
There must be a reason why no one wants to go (or to go back..Crespo dear mecry ) to Chelsea!

[Domlegolas]

One favour to ask you english members: should you meet Mr. Abramovich (who doesn't) could you tell him to stop trying get OUR Shevchenko??
There must be a reason why no one wants to go (or to go back..Crespo dear mecry ) to Chelsea!

lol
Dear EoR, I respect u a lot to keep Shevchenko :thumbs: but I did hear about that,so I dont have any idea.
Crespo... sorry... :-/ :-/ I would like him to stay at Milan..... :rose:

[Eowyn of Rohan]

Hi Dom...lots of news around and poor supporter like us can't even say something certain about their "idols".. :(
what about your MU...no chance you will *loan* us Christiano Ronaldo ;) ?

[Domlegolas]

:p Hopeful u can keep him,also season will start soon. Then it will be clear for everyone :thumbs: but I am not proffs with Italia Serie, when do they usual to start with new season??? Same as us in England? Second-Third week of Aug month... (???)
Hoho, C.Ronaldo??? Ohhh,I would like to keep him for a while :grin:

[Eowyn of Rohan]

next Serie A season will start on 28th of august...too hot in Italy to start earlier!
I saw C. Ronaldo in his national team matches and with MU when he played against us in CL.....but you see him every week, what can you say about him? soccer-wise and character-wise?

[Domlegolas]

Yes, too earlier... So it is so hot in Italia.... Humm....
Oh, I wish see MU every week as I did when I was in Europe ;) but I always tried my best to watch at MU oftenly... (how? Go to pub lol )
Yeah, C.Ronaldo... I am seeing that he improves himself a lot when he started in MU until today.... Impress it... And sometimes he worked doubles (so hard) than other... Sometimes hmmm......not so wonderful.... But I cant forget that he is still young,so give him more chance to develop himself in field and team...But his character, I like it.... In addition he is too young to have the character, it is so good that he has a lot of motivations and great attitude. It is just mine opinion...If he keeps like that in a few years more, then I believe in him to be better player in furture... He can be like second Figo in furture ;) It is up to him....
But curious what does Andy will say... lol .... because I am not alone MU fan here at WOTR, I have him :thumbs:

[Eowyn of Rohan]

tnx for the review Dom! I'll wait for Andy's one too! :blush:
you see..not so many soccer fans I know like Christiano...God knows why.. ;)

[Andy]

Many think he dives too much, when in a matter of fact, he is actually fouled a lot, just watch the replays. He was the most fouled player in the Premier League last season lol

They just chop him down because he can easily out pace them when he kicks the ball past them. He has improved a lot over the last 2 seasons and so I see him developing into one of the worlds best players along with Rooney. That's why United want to keep hold of them because they are both like 19 and so are tying to build a team around them.

He has become more of a team player and has stopped diving pretty much all together as well as trying as best he can to stay up from the bad tackles he recieves.

He can play both wings as he has two good feet and a ferocious shot - just wath some of the goals he scored last season.

On the whole he is a good player and that is why Utd want to keep hold of him. Their biggest challenge will be stopping him from going to Real Madrid because he is said to prefer the climate in Spain.

I think he will be here for a few years yet because he said in the Press that "United is where I want to be at the moment and I am happy here".

[Eowyn of Rohan]

Thanks for the "review" Andy! it's always good to know what the supporter think about their champions (the press is often too drastic!)

[Andy]

lol I don't think I've ever written that much in my life, I wasn't even planning to! Just came out >.<

Yeah the Media will always over speculate because then it generates tension and hypes the whole incident up

[Eowyn of Rohan]

Yeah Andy, when you have to "defende" your players there are not enought words to do it! lol
I'm also curious about MU summer market...who is in your list of wanna-have-players?
Milan is still waiting for the official news that Gilardino will be our next season!

[Andy]

I will be jealous if Milan get Gilardino as he's a good player

I would have liked Man Utd to have gone and bought Gerrard from Liverpool when it looked like he was going to leave. But, alas, he is staying.

Supposedly we have no transfer money as we spent it all last season on Rooney! But since the Glazers have taken over I think they should buy us a world class centre half to play with Rio Ferdinand as Silvestre makes too many mistakes. Somebody like John Terry would be perfect, but I can't see him ever leaving Chelsea

[Eowyn of Rohan]

oh yes the Glazers..I've heard that you guys are not so happy about him buying MU (increasing price of tickets and gadgets)...Anyway I don't think he could be a new Abramovich!

And as for Chelsea I don't know...footballers don't seem to be so keen to go there, even if they are paid literally with mountains of gold!

I've heard also about some declaration Crespo just made..about how he's happy to be back at Chelsea..ok he has to say so, but it hurts! I would have never let him go, expecially when you have to buy Vieri to cover Hernan's role.. :-/

[Domlegolas]

MU bought a player from South Korea.. No idea about him (Park)...
Still problem with Obi between MU and Chelsea.. :fight: ohwell...
More player, I dont know....But it's excatly what Andy did say about Ballack... Lets see....

Andy, yeah.. Gerrard!!! Oh yes.. but we didnt get him... But I am keeping an eye at him lol

[Eowyn of Rohan]

MU bought a player from South Korea.. No idea about him (Park)...
I remember him quite well..he gave us a lot of problems in CL... fast guy, good move by MU!

[Anarion]

I haven't been following Park very well, but I know that he's been outstanding for the South Korea NT...

Looks like Vieira is a Juve player now! I don't see why Arsenal didn't ship him off to Real last season, though, they were offering MUCH more (around £24m) than Juventus bought him for (around £12-15). *shrug* I read that Arsenal might get 2-3 Juve players (in addition to $$), but besides Appiah, what Juve player would be worth getting??

Milan oh-so-close to Gila now....!! Parma's holding out until Monday, but even a "no" doesn't look so bad -- if he can't go to Milan, Gila says he'll see out his contract at Parma. This is no good for them, because the longer he stays on, the less he's worth; and if they hold out until his contract expires, they can't make any money from him -- money that they badly need.

[Eowyn of Rohan]

Looks like Vieira is a Juve player now! I don't see why Arsenal didn't ship him off to Real last season, though, they were offering MUCH more (around £24m) than Juventus bought him for (around £12-15). *shrug* I read that Arsenal might get 2-3 Juve players (in addition to $$), but besides Appiah, what Juve player would be worth getting??
I think that Arsenal wish to have cash only..I don't know how Juve can afford such a player without sellind a BIG...I suspect that Emerson will soon leave Turin..
About the amount that they are going to pay for Vieira..you know Juve's like MAFIA! lol

Milan oh-so-close to Gila now....!! Parma's holding out until Monday, but even a "no" doesn't look so bad -- if he can't go to Milan, Gila says he'll see out his contract at Parma. This is no good for them, because the longer he stays on, the less he's worth; and if they hold out until his contract expires, they can't make any money from him -- money that they badly need.
Oh I hope that he'll be with us on monday! His arrival will help increasing the number of the season ticket holders! now it's over 34000!!! :grin:
a few pics for you from the first training
Vogel (ex PSV) Vieri :o and Ancelotti
http://www.corriere.it/gallery/Sport/2005/07_Luglio/vieri/2/MILAN1.jpg

Vieri and Gattuso in funny pose! ;)
http://www.corriere.it/gallery/Sport/2005/07_Luglio/vieri/2/VIERI4.jpg

Pippo INZAGHI!!!
http://img285.imageshack.us/img285/2699/inzaghi0wj.jpg

Kakà Cafù and Dida will join the group in august, they had more holidays because of the Confederations Cup!

[Andy]

Vieira has gone for £11.7 million I think

Ballack would be a great signing for Man Utd. He is planning on leaving Munich as well, so lets hope we manage to get him

About Glazer, i am not too bothered about him as it is all Media speculation and a small number of Utd fans who think they speak for the majority. I say give him a chance.

Park was signed for about £4 million and i think he is amazing. He caused Milan so many problems in that Champions league game. He is supposed to have a huge engine in him as well, so he will be up and down the wing in no time. I look forward to watching him play

[Anarion]

http://www.corriere.it/gallery/Sport/2005/07_Luglio/vieri/2/MILAN1.jpg
Meh :-/ . Not too keen on the new kits (Zafira??? Why don't they just stick with Opel?? Zafira technically is Opel, right?), but it's nowhere near as bad as Juve's red disaster (haha red & green is soooooo non-Juve) and ManU's blue-but-looks-kind-of-radioactive-purple away kit. I think I have a rather perverse love for bad jerseys lol. Sadly, Liverpool did get off relatively well (white/red/green away jersey -- done much better than Juve's ;)) and Newcastle's grey-green (I think. The lighting was weird.) away looks very nice.
Kakà Cafù and Dida will join the group in august, they had more holidays because of the Confederations Cup! Kakà won't play in the US, then? mecry I guess I'll just have to settle for Sheva, Maldini, Gattuso, Pirlo, Nesta, Vieri, Ambro, Rui Costa........hehe. I think I can live with that. :p

[Domlegolas]

Ballack, looking forward for that :thumbs:

Thanks, EoR :rose: for pictures.It's so great to see photo of Vieri :p but he didnt look like glad....humm.... :-/ :blink: :blink: :-/

[Eowyn of Rohan]

Meh :-/ . Not too keen on the new kits (Zafira??? Why don't they just stick with Opel?? Zafira technically is Opel, right?), but it's nowhere near as bad as Juve's red disaster (haha red & green is soooooo non-Juve) and ManU's blue-but-looks-kind-of-radioactive-purple away kit. I think I have a rather perverse love for bad jerseys lol. Sadly, Liverpool did get off relatively well (white/red/green away jersey -- done much better than Juve's ;)) and Newcastle's grey-green (I think. The lighting was weird.) away looks very nice.
I don't really know the reason why Milan Choose Zafira over OPEL (zafira is a car model from opel, but this has been done before - whit the MERIVA label)
Our Third jersey this year will be black(thank God they forgot about last year's awful golden one!)
Juve don't have taste...remember the pink jersey of the last years?? ridiculous! and now they come out with the radioactive red!! It's terrible!! lol

Kakà won't play in the US, then? mecry I guess I'll just have to settle for Sheva, Maldini, Gattuso, Pirlo, Nesta, Vieri, Ambro, Rui Costa........hehe. I think I can live with that. :p
Neither Kakà nor Shevchenko..sorry! Sheva had another facial surgery to remove the implant the doctor put on the cheekbone after that infamous accident.. :(
But hey, we have a whole season to see them!! :grin:

[Anarion]

But hey, we have a whole season to see them!! :grin: Bah, not when I live in the US!! lol

I wonder if Milan is going to use a 3 man defense on their tour here -- should be a real test, considering they'll be debuting it against a full-strength Chelsea squad!

Milan grab Gilardino (http://skysports.planetfootball.com/Article.asp?id=292648). :yahoo: For a second there, I was getting a little worried. Stupid transfer season...gets me all worked up over nothing.

[Eowyn of Rohan]

Bah, not when I live in the US!! lol
sorry I was sure that you were from England (don't ask me why! :blush: )

I wonder if Milan is going to use a 3 man defense on their tour here -- should be a real test, considering they'll be debuting it against a full-strength Chelsea squad!
the 3 men defence will be used also because Ancelotti said that this year he wants to use a large turn-over.. :mmmm:
last year we made a good impression in the american tour, I don't feel like we can say the same for this year :-/

Milan grab Gilardino (http://skysports.planetfootball.com/Article.asp?id=292648). :yahoo: For a second there, I was getting a little worried. Stupid transfer season...gets me all worked up over nothing.
YEAHH GILA signed yeaterday night! you should have see all the programs in our TV talking about that..it was like the royal couple had just married!!!
I am so happy to have him, hope that he will get along with the others! (aka Sheva in particular)

[Andy]

Looks like Chelsea have comleted the signing of Manchester City's Shaun Wright-Phillips for £21 million.

It's a lot of money if you ask me because he isn't a proven international, or proven in European tournaments. But, he is an amazing player in the Premiership and he doesnscore some brilliant goals, even if he is a small guy

[Anarion]

He should have little trouble breaking into the first team, as he is incredibly talented and can open up a lot of possibilities for the team (in terms of playing style, pushing other players into more suitable positions, etc). Should they land Essien, Chelsea's midfield will be (on paper, at least) unstoppable.

[Lady Arwen]

anyone heard of the Peace Cup in Korea?!
i just saw the final this morning and guess who was playing and won 1-3 against Lyon?!Tottenham Hotspurs!!first goal by them was an owngoal by Lyon, then two goals (one of which a header) by the one and only KEANOOO!!!! :yahoo: sorry i couldnt help it!

[Andy]

So there has been a lot of speculation linking Michael Owen with a return to the Premiership, especially with Man Utd being linked with taking him.

So who do you think will buy him, if he leaves Spain?

[Anarion]

*sniff sniff*..............*sniff sniff* Do I smell a.....new season? :p

Ladies & gents, the offseason has ended!! Tomorrow begins the 2005-2006 Barclays English Premier League, kicking off with Everton and Manchester United playing the first game of the season. :yahoo: Other weekend fixtures include:
Saturday
Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers
Fulham v Birmingham
Manchester City v West Brom
Portsmouth v Spurs
Sunderland v Charlton
West Ham v Blackburn
Middlesbrough v Liverpool

Sunday
Arsenal v Newcastle
Chel$ki v Wigan

Sadly, the transfer window does not close until August 31, so still a few weeks left of painful speculation and loads of more time for Lyon and Chelsea to drag on the Essien saga. :nono:

*sigh* I love the smell of live premiership games in the morning. ;) T minus 17 hours.

edited to add: To answer your question, Andy -- the only team that is looking like they want to buy him is Newcastle, but I highly doubt he wants to go there. Liverpool, Arsenal, Chelsea, and ManU don't need him. Not to mention they have areas they have to bunker down first [Arsenal -- def, mid; ManU -- mid; Chelsea -- well....um. Just Essien, really.] before looking to buy another striker. If United buys him before finding a suitable replacement for Keano, I'll be peeved (after long hours of laughing at 'pool fans, of course lol).

[Andy]

It was a great opener to the season today. The United vs Everton match was played at a great tempo and I thought overall United deserved the 2-0 win. It was odd though, after seeing Phil Neville at United for so long, to see him wearing the Everton strip against us - and his brother.

[Domlegolas]

I can think that MU possible buy Owen, also Saha is hurtingfor a while....Lets see....
And I am very surprised that Andy Cole moved to MC (Manchester City).... Ex MU... Hmmm...... Fell sorry for him after he left from MU for a few years ago...
Anyway,MU MU MU MU!!! :thumbs:

Oh,I agree with u, Andy that I was so excellent to see MU today, it was so great!!! But I was little surprised about Everton,and a few times it scared me too much but I had to thank Ewin to save ball....hmmm......
Oh, it wasnt easy to see Phil Neville in Everton team...hmm.... It hurts me a part but I still care him. And it takes time to be used, isnt right??
Too happy to see Keane today. Know that he will not play every match, already agreed with Fergis. It's importnat that he is still playing MU! And recently he had brithday (10th Aug) Leo man :flamer: !!!! Happy Birthday!!

:hooray: :yahoo: MANCHESTER UNITED :yahoo: :hooray:


:rose:

[Domlegolas]

Unbelieve the match between Newcastle and Arsenal... :angry:

Just want to share the picture.It is funny.... lol Ljungberg (Arsenal) with Newcastle,forget his name....
The domare didnt see it...hoho...
http://img314.imageshack.us/img314/8623/ljungbergskam3737di.jpg


I tried to find other picture of brother Neville from last saturday's match,but I didnt find, only this.
So I hope it's ok. It still touchs my heart.
http://img314.imageshack.us/img314/8073/neville4ty.jpg



Was surprised that ONLY Crespo made a goal (Wigan-Chelsea)....
Hmmm....... Lets see how it will go with Chelsea... or they take it easier right now...

[Andy]

Chelsea got lucky against Wigan. And they got lucky against Arsenal with that goal.

Looks like Ruud is back to action.

[Domlegolas]

Bloody ---- Chelsea got lucky....

Time goes and it will be 31th Aug soon,so I dont have any idea about Owen..It comes a lot of gossip about him and bid....
Surprised that Baros moved to Aston Villa from Liverpool, and what I did heard that Liverpool wants to sell Cissie also because of Owen who they want him back... But Cissie wants to stay there...
Gossip gossip..... blah blah...
Lets see....

[Eowyn of Rohan]

From uefa.com
Eagerly-awaited draw
In Monaco, the 32 teams will go into the draw taking place in the Salle des Princes at the Grimaldi Forum at 16.00CET. For the purposes of the draw, the clubs will be placed into four pots according to their coefficients (see below). No side can draw opponents from their own nation, other than holders Liverpool FC, who are without country protection after UEFA granted them special dispensation to defend the trophy. This means they could be pitted in the same section as English champions Chelsea FC, who they beat in the 2004/05 semi-finals.
Another Champions Leage season is about to start..let's hope that my boys will spare me other tragedies!!! ;)

[Eowyn of Rohan]

Sorry for the double post but I wanted to write the results of yesterday's Champions League draft:

GROUP A: Bayern Monaco, Juventus, Bruges, Rapid Vienna.
GROUP B: Arsenal, Ajax, Sparta Praga, Thun.
GROUP C: Barcellona, Panathinaikos, Werder Brema, Udinese.
GROUP D: Manchester United, Villarreal, Lilla, Benfica.
GROUP E: MILAN, PSV Eindhoven, Schalke 04, Fenerbahce.
GROUP F: Real Madrid, Lione, Olympiakos, Rosenborg.
GROUP G: Liverpool, Chelsea, Anderlecht, Betis.
GROUP H: Inter, Porto, Rangers, Bratislava.

Quite an ironic draft since Milan has to go back to Eindhoven and to Istambul just as last year...the first match will be played at San Siro on the 13th of September VS. Fenerbache...I will be at the stadium!! Hope to see a good match and of course that my guys will win! :blush:

What do you guys think?
Domlegolas, MU's group seems OK!
Funny that Liverpool and Chelsea are in the same group..tough on I think!

Ps Our player Kakà got the award for best mid-fielder for last year's CL!! :yahoo:

[Arwen Evenstar]

Liverpool and Chelsea? TOGETHER????? I think that would be interesting. Since I support Man U, I hope they win!

[Sirion]

GROUP H: Inter, Porto, Rangers, Bratislava.


Artmedia Bratislava is my club!!! I mean, I am not that big a football fan, but this is historic. Clubs from Slovakia don't usually take part in the Champions League. Not that we have a chance, but it's great to be there, anyway. I am disappointed, though, that we are not in a group with Manchester United. I'd very much like to see Ruud van Nistelrooy with my own eyes... :)

[Anarion]

I for one think Group G is amazing. EVERYONE saw it coming. It's funny mostly because it was that predictable (heated balls and all those UEFA conspiracies....;)). Heh. Although Betis was in Pot D, I think (and hope) they'll come out fighting and give Chelsea & Liverpool a hard time.

Group E is the closest this draw comes to a group of death, so I'm not thrilled with Milan being in that group. :( They'll make it through alright, but the CL will draw concentration away from the Serie A.

As usual, Arsenal got the easy group :rolleyes:......and I still don't understand how they edged Porto to wind up in Pot A. :hmppf: But anyway.

Manchester United/Villareal was a tie I wanted to avoid (and for that exact reason, I wasn't surprised when it was drawn :rolleyes:), because they're my La Liga team and I'll have split allegiances (although I'm a bigger fan of ManU, I have a tendency to cheer for the "underdog"...if you need any proof, I :love: West Brom, hehe). Plus watch Forlan come back and score a hat-trick or something....pffh.

On the whole, I'm pretty "meh" over the groups, nothing standout (besides G), it's pretty obvious -- major screw-ups notwithstanding -- who'll go through per group.

[Domlegolas]

EoR, yes for now and I hope MU keeps it!! Thanks :rose:

Anarion, u wrote :CL will draw concentration away from the Serie A.
????? I would like to be happy if u can tell me more about that...
I never heard it.... :blink: ?????....

CL... Anarion makes me to think about CL with different group....
It seems interesting but I think that isnt fair for Arsenal but I cant talk too much :p ......
I miss Forlan but very scared if he will make goals..... Wish him to stay with us (MU).... Scared match...
It's thrilling to see how Chelsea will go with CL!!
And I am really looking forward to watch at CL matches!!!!!!!!!

[Andy]

I'd very much like to see Ruud van Nistelrooy with my own eyes... :)

I've seen him when I go to Utd's Training Ground, and yes, he does look like a horse in real life lol

About the premiership now. The Refs are getting a lot stricter. Loads of Reds have already been shown, as have yellows. Quite dissapointing really, as with all the whistle blowings, the games are stop start instead of flowing.

[Anarion]

Anarion, u wrote :CL will draw concentration away from the Serie A.
????? I would like to be happy if u can tell me more about that...
I never heard it.... :blink: ?????.... Oh no it's nothing lol, don't worry...I just meant that the teams Milan face in the group stages -- although the Rossoneri can handily beat them -- the games will make it harder for Milan to focus their energy on the league...the games come at a critical point in the season. I don't remember all the fixtures, but one game requires Milan to play PSV away only two days after facing Juve in the league :o.
Loads of reds have been shownWhat's more alarming is how unnecessay and unjustified they have been....one statistic I read was that out of the 9 shown, 3 have been overturned. If Spurs appeal, I'm sure Mido's card today will be too.

[Ivanhoe]

Anyone noticed that Artmedia Bratislava made it to the Champions League? That is the team from my hometown, cool innit?

[Eowyn of Rohan]

Group E is the closest this draw comes to a group of death, so I'm not thrilled with Milan being in that group. :( They'll make it through alright, but the CL will draw concentration away from the Serie A.
Hi Anarion! I was really looking forward to hearing your opinion on these groups! I agree with you, with could have been luckier, but if we want to we something we shouldn't be scared of anybody. You can be sure that PSV will search for revenge for last season's matches, but they are a different team now, no Park no Van Bommel no Vogel. I don't know much about the other 2 teams apart that Shalke 04 won against Inter here in Milan :grin: !
As for Serie A...did you see what happened yesterday??! :angry: we were playing in a pool and *gained* a little 1-1 against newbie Ascoli...were do we go from here??

[Anarion]

Yeah, I saw the match. The first ten minutes or so, I was laughing and counting down the minutes til the match would be stopped, but it wasn't!!! :angry: Any advantage Milan may have had for being the "classier" or "better" side just went out the window...if anyone is wondering what a "level playing field" looks like, that was it. Neither team could play....congrats to Sheva for getting a goal out of open play.

PSV lost Lee, too, I believe...but you're right, they're nowhere near the team that almost kicked us out last year. No revenge that I can see... :grin:. Schalke will be a toughie, they're really the only team that can challenge Bayern for the title this season. Fener might look a bit of a pushover, but in Istanbul, you never know...

[Eowyn of Rohan]

i'm happy that Sheva scored in the opening match! Even if we did'n win I want to take this as a good omen!!! :)

look at this...a second before the goal comes!!!
http://andriyshevchenko.net/albums/milan0506_1/acc.jpg

As for CL, I won't make predictions...let's just comment the matches and support our team! Maybe in this way I'll be less depressed if things go wrong! :nono: ;)

[Andy]

Michael Owen has moved to Newcastle United today as well. About a £16/17 million deal and he gets £80,000 a week. Not bad lol

[Domlegolas]

What???? Wow... Thanks for letting me know about Owen..
Newcastle lost 3 times straight, so it will be thrilling to see when Owen is there,so will Newcastle improve or not...

[Anarion]

Watched the coverage of Owen's unveiling...felt kind of bad for him, he looked a bit awkward with the "a savior has come!!" hysteria. But he handled himself well, under some tough questioning, too! lol Newcastle's attack looks very good now:

---------Shearer----Owen----------

Luque----Parker-----Emre----Solano
If Souey can't get a good finish out of this, then....well I don't know, but it'll be pretty sad.

[Andy]

I'm really looking forward to this line-up by Souness and Newcastle. Even though I support Man Utd, this team looks very exciting.

[Anarion]

Manchester United 1 - 1 Manchester City :(
Alright result, I guess, at least Andy Cole didn't score. Man U desperately missed the width that Ronaldo brings to the game and desperately need a new CB or (Heinze can play in the center) a new LB. Also, wingbacks would be nice (that explains Cicinho interest). My condolences to Cristiano and his family, though.

Mediocre showing from Newcastle...but what else is new? ;)

[Andy]

I went to the Derby today! And i was so dissapointed by the lac of passion shown by our players. Apart from Smith and Rooney, no Utd player looked liked they wanted to get stuck in.

I think it's time Fergie left.

[Anarion]

Yeah, but what was up with Rooney? He kept making these amazing runs and then tripping over his own feet!! I don't know about Fergie leaving, it depends on what he does in January and how we play throughout the season. Also, what with all the back room changes, I think the team needs some sense of stability.

Milan 3 - 1 Siena. (woo! Inter lost!! :))
Ambro is definitely pushing to start over Gattuso! I also thought Stam was enjoying himself a lot at RB, I'm glad Carletto found a way to keep the Maldini-Nesta pairing together without excluding Stam. Also, playing Cafu & Sergio (as wingbacks) doesn't work. Serginho's much better attacking, doesn't have the same defensive quality that Cafu has. Gila did not look confident - did everything right, couldn't find the back of the net, though. I know it's early into the season, but Milan needs to finish their chances better and work at defending high balls into the box -- both goals this season have been conceded that way.

[Andy]

No Fergie has stayed too long now. He has done well at the club, but there is always a time when you need to move on.

I guess it just wasn't Rooneys day in the attack. He played amazing, just the final move didn't work. Unlucky I guess.

[Anarion]

CL this week! I'll be getting Real Betis v Liverpool, Villarreal v Manchester Utd, and Milan v Fenerbahce on TV, which is nice, being as usual coverage consists of 1 game per week! :grin:
I don't care for Liverpool, so I would love to see Betis get the win at home ;).
Villarreal just lost Riquelme over the weekend and he probably won't be risked on Wednesday; dunno how much that will affect Villa, but ManU should come away with a win, whether or not Ronaldo decides to play. I also want to see Giggs starting, with Park coming on late. Hopefully, if Keane starts, we'll be up by a couple goals early in the game and then take him off to rest (Liverpool next week!)....but you never know. :huh:
Milan should deal with Fener pretty handily. I'd start Vieri up front with Sheva, and give Gila a bit of rest. Gattuso-Pirlo-Serginho midfield.

[Eowyn of Rohan]

Milan 3 - 1 Siena. (woo! Inter lost!! :))
Ambro is definitely pushing to start over Gattuso! I also thought Stam was enjoying himself a lot at RB, I'm glad Carletto found a way to keep the Maldini-Nesta pairing together without excluding Stam. Also, playing Cafu & Sergio (as wingbacks) doesn't work. Serginho's much better attacking, doesn't have the same defensive quality that Cafu has. Gila did not look confident - did everything right, couldn't find the back of the net, though. I know it's early into the season, but Milan needs to finish their chances better and work at defending high balls into the box -- both goals this season have been conceded that way.
I've seen the match and apart from 2 or 3 Siena actions I wasn't really worried about our victory. Gila is still to shy..even if all the team and the stadium supported him, he still deos not seem a rossonero yet. But he will be a true one soon!
Ambro was great, did you see how happy he was after his goal, his hand on the heart...what a great captain he would be!
Kakà & Sheva: unique as usual, Stam playing decently at last.
and, as you said, INTER LOST :yahoo: :p

Milan should deal with Fener pretty handily. I'd start Vieri up front with Sheva, and give Gila a bit of rest. Gattuso-Pirlo-Serginho midfield.
I'll be at San Siro tonight..hope to see a great show! :blush: I'm pretty sure that Sheva & VIeri will play from the beginning (Vieri did not play in serie A for the past 2 matches because of a red card he got in the last game, last season and so he's fresh and willing to *show his qualities*)
there's also a chance for Ambro to play together with Gattuso..but these are only theories...we will see! :)
FORZA MILAN!!!! :flamer:

[Anarion]

Hehe, yeah, I read the lineups....Rino-Pirlo-Ambro. I wonder what Carlo is trying to do...? They've never been outstanding together, but I guess Ambro will attack more..? 1-0 in the 36th! Go Kaka!! :)

Enjoy the game!! I wish I was there with you!! :p

EDIT: :o Lyon 3 - 0 Madrid in the 38th minute!! I know Madrid are missing players and Lyon is at home, but....wow! :o

[Eowyn of Rohan]

Anarion I wish you were there with me too...you wouldn't have your voice by now, but you'd be in awe...Kakà's goals...2 pearls...San Siro bowed to him, what a great player! Read what Sheva said after the match:
‘It was a difficult match that was resolved by a great player. Ricky deserves everyone’s applause. If I give up the Golden Ball, I would give it to Kaka. A champion like that doesn’t need any words, just leave him to play. Bobo or Gilardino also could have scored today, both did a lot for the team. Even if they didn’t score, the group is the important thing. I believe in the group. In difficult moments we will pull out the determination, today it touched Kaka, tomorrow another.’
I couldn't agree more with him!
We had our now usual black out...Gattuso shouldn't have attacked Anelka like that...the penalty was clear as the sun :-/ After their goal we had a bad moment...but when Kakà decides that the game is over...there's nothing you can do! :grin:

As for the other matches...I couldn't believe it, what happened to Real? :blink: I know that Ronaldo wasn't in, but hey are they or are they not the Galacticos?? :nono:

Inter won..PSV, Chelsea & Liverpool did too...it will be a tough fight! :flamer:

[Andy]

United drew. They played poor, and it wasn't helped by Rooney being sent off.

0-0

[Anarion]

Richardson was a pleasant surprise though. Van der Sar = MotM for obvious reasons. Keano once upon a time had an unpleasant temper too when he came to United, so hopefully Roo can learn from that and begin to channel all that frustration/anger/overall negativity/etc into playing better, like Keane did.

EoR, do you live in Milan? Just curious :), I meant to ask you this yesterday when you mentioned going to the game.

[Eowyn of Rohan]

EoR, do you live in Milan? Just curious :), I meant to ask you this yesterday when you mentioned going to the game.
Yes Anarion, I live in Milan! :)

I didn't see MU's match..so please can you tell me why "Van der Sar = MotM for obvious reasons"? :blush:

[Andy]

Van der Sarr made some awesome saves during that match, clearly saving it for us at times.

Anarion, I like Rooneys temper, as it shows he has passion for the game. Something it lacks nowadays. Honestly, I don't think it was worth the second yellow.

[Anarion]

I'm just worried about Liverpool this Sunday. I hope he has a mind-blowing match, if only just to silence his critics. The injury list will probably make it an uncomfortably tight game, though. Smithy, Rooney, Richardson...all need to have superb games. And Silvestre, if he can stop nodding off every so often (did better against Villa), that would be great. ;) Bardsley would be a nice option over O'Shea. Yes Anarion, I live in Milan! :)Lucky you! ;) Do you go to a lot of games?
Btw I watched Tuesday's game on tv today and saw Kaka's 2nd goal -- :o -- what a beauty!!

[Eowyn of Rohan]

Lucky you! ;) Do you go to a lot of games?
Btw I watched Tuesday's game on tv today and saw Kaka's 2nd goal -- :o -- what a beauty!!
Honestly no..Since 2002 I see the first 3 matches of the CL...after those you can't find a ticket unless you are Berlusconi's best mate! lol
I'm glad you had the chance to see the match! As I said Kakà's goals were gorgeous...you just knew when he touched the ball that he would have scored!

PS Andy, thank fot the explanation about Van Der Saar ! :)

[Anarion]

Liverpool 0 - 0 Manchester United
*grumble grumble* Gaby, Gary, Fortune, Keano, Brown, Saha (has he ever been fit??)....:( I really hate injuries. I really really do. Richardson is looking relatively comfortable at LB, but I have no faith in O'Shea. And it's now time to see if Fergie's Alan Smith Experiment is going to work, because well....we've got no cover. (Besides Liam "The Destroyer" Miller, that is ;))

Sampdoria 2 - 1 Milan
Playing Samp away was never going to be easy, but I'm disappointed in Carlo with his substitutions -- Ambro for Pirlo? :blink: Didn't make much attacking sense. Would've liked to see Rui get some time on the field. Meh. At least Gila got a goal.

[Eowyn of Rohan]

Sampdoria 2 - 1 Milan
Playing Samp away was never going to be easy, but I'm disappointed in Carlo with his substitutions -- Ambro for Pirlo? :blink: Didn't make much attacking sense. Would've liked to see Rui get some time on the field. Meh. At least Gila got a goal.
Gila did not save us..a single player can't do that...and our defence? How can someone even think of putting Nesta on the bench? Stam was ridiculous and now we have only 4 points :nono: this wednesday we have to play vs. Lazio...we'll see, but it's clear that we can't afford to loose more points! :angry:

[Andy]

Bardsley over O'Shea any day of the week. O'Shea is a centre half, not a right back, and a poor centre half at that.

[Eowyn of Rohan]

Milan 2 - 0 Lazio
Shevchenko 12 (M), Kaka 14 (M)
A good match, Lazio didn't do anything worth being mentioned..Sheva scored an amazing goal while Kakà's one was a bit fortunate but valid nevertheless!
Another great thing is that we did not let Lazio score, Dida did a couple of savings but nothing more, positive news at last!
Next match will be vs. Triestina...I expect nothing less than a convincing victory!!!! Go guys!

[Anarion]

Good game...needed to get a win and got one. I'm trying hard not to, but it's getting a little too easy now to lose faith in Vieri...especially with Iaquinta possibly up for grabs come January. Sheva's goal was a beauty indeed!! :) I <3 Maldini's reaction to the goal from the stands, so v. happy about it! lol I hope this is going to give our boys the momentum they need to get themselves back on track.

[Eowyn of Rohan]

Good game...needed to get a win and got one. I'm trying hard not to, but it's getting a little too easy now to lose faith in Vieri...especially with Iaquinta possibly up for grabs come January.
I don't have and I think I'll never have faith in Vieri..I just can't stand him...he will have to prove himself to be really one of us.

Sheva's goal was a beauty indeed!! :) I <3 Maldini's reaction to the goal from the stands, so v. happy about it! lol I hope this is going to give our boys the momentum they need to get themselves back on track.I wanted to see Maldini's reaction too :( I'll search for a clip of it! :blush:

Oh btw...The Witch-king made me notice that our next match in not against Triestina but against Treviso...feel free to :trout: me!!! lol

[Anarion]

I wanted to see Maldini's reaction too :( I'll search for a clip of it! :blush: Hm. I guess we must have had different feeds for the game..? It's usually the same between England-US, but I guess not between Italy-US?? In any case, nothing to lose sleep over ;), it just made me giggle. But if I find a clip, I'll post it for you.
Oh btw...The Witch-king made me notice that our next match in not against Triestina but against Treviso...feel free to :trout: me!!! lol Not to worry, I understood what you meant. Typos can happen to anyone, so no :trout:.........yet. ;)

[Andy]

Man Utd losing today was not a good thing. I was there and we actually booed the team, and we haven't booed the team in years. Ferguson needs to listen to the crowd who are shouting for a 4-4-2 formation. As it is us who decide whether he stays in the job or not, as if he doesn't have the fans support then the board will sack him.

[Anarion]

No, Man Utd losing today was a very good thing. It means there's no hiding behind this garbage 4-3-3 anymore. Unless he's incredibly daft, Fergie will see that now and stop trying to play with it. We don't have the players for it. More specifically, Scholes cannot and will not ever function in it.

But more than just Ferguson and the formation, I think some of the blame has got to fall on the players as well. Especially with Rooney out in CL, they are under massive pressure to perform and to do well, regardless of what else is going on. They have got to respond and have got to step up and show their worth.

[Andy]

We have too many players in that team who are not good enough, and Fergie is not being tough enough to get rid of them. Examples are John O'Shea and Kieran Richardson. This is the biggest crisis in 15 years to hit Fergie I have been told.

[Eowyn of Rohan]

In any case, nothing to lose sleep over ;), it just made me giggle. But if I find a clip, I'll post it for you.
Thanks Anarion...any glimpse of our captain is welcome!
and hey did you hear that today is Christian's (Paolo Maldini's first son) first day as a little Milan player? I love the idea that Milan will ALWAYS have a Maldini fighter!! :blush:

As for yesterday...

TREVISO - MILAN 0-2 (0-1)
Marcatori: al 44’ del pt Shevchenko, al 28’ del st Gilardino.

we did not play well...but at least we won..and nowadays this is really something + Gilardino gained the penalty and scored a cool goal. Sheva and Kakà played their usual 7 rating match..but more attention even from them would be welcome!! (too demanding?? :p )

[Anarion]

hey did you hear that today is Christian's (Paolo Maldini's first son) first day as a little Milan player? I love the idea that Milan will ALWAYS have a Maldini fighter!! :blush:Yes yes I know, so adorable!! :p And after Paolo retires, the number 3 jersey will be waiting for him. :grin:

I finally got around to watching the game this afternoon, we got the win well enough but yeah, we didn't play all that well...let Treviso come a little bit too close sometimes and Pirlo & Kaka (prob. because he kept getting fouled!) looked off as well. Very happy for Gila, getting his 2nd goal...overall, good result going into Wednesday's game.

And as far as ManU is concerned, not-so-good morale going into tomorrow's game, what with injuries to just about everyone and Rooney out. GAAH. Just read that Silvestre isn't fit either....so we could be seeing Bardsley, Pique, and Richardson in the defense :o :o :o Unless O'Shea is fit. And let's hope...'cause I'd rather see JOS in the center than that back line.

But in any case, it's BENFICA. I don't feel too good about it, but I think we'll win it...that is, with a 4-4-2 and Rossi/Park/Giggs/Blake pairing Ruud.

[Eowyn of Rohan]

Yes yes I know, so adorable!! :p And after Paolo retires, the number 3 jersey will be waiting for him. :grin:
Well no. 3 will no more be available after Paolo decides to quit with soccer mecry but Christian will wear it in the Primavera team! :grin:

[Andy]

Man Utd played well, but still not up to their usual standards. At least we won. I am really impressed by that bardsley, he could be the future replacement for Neville.

[Anarion]

Silly Inter couldn't do us a favor, but...GO PAOLO!! :yahoo: Hehe my commentators were hoping that Milan would get a penalty because they wanted to know whether Shevchenko would let Maldini take it and score a hat-trick! lol On the not-so-plus side, what's wrong with Vieri? He's just one big storming cloud of perptual bad luck! Once Sheva came off instead of him, I knew we weren't going to score...:rolleyes:

On the England side of life -- Liverpool couldn't do us (or themselves) a favor, but PARK -- :yahoo:. 2nd best signing of the offseason. Kieran looks better and better each week and Smith held his own well enough for having to occasionally cover to Fletch and O'Shea. Oh, and did we just score 3 goals in 45 minutes?? :o That's right....4-4-2 ;) On the not-so-plus side, what's wrong with Rio? And why is O'Shea still playing??

Overall, good footie weekend for me....Milan won, Man U won, PSG won, and Spain is still looking interesting (mostly because Rooney showed up to the Real-Mallorca game.....:huh:...eh?) Looking forward to qualifiers next week!

[Eowyn of Rohan]

Silly Inter couldn't do us a favor, but...GO PAOLO!! :yahoo: Hehe my commentators were hoping that Milan would get a penalty because they wanted to know whether Shevchenko would let Maldini take it and score a hat-trick! lol On the not-so-plus side, what's wrong with Vieri? He's just one big storming cloud of perptual bad luck! Once Sheva came off instead of him, I knew we weren't going to score...:rolleyes:
Anarion...I'm so happy for us and for THE CAPTAIN that I don't care about Sheva's selfishness or Vieri's bad luck...Maldini is our soul and as long as he will be able to give us strenght..I'm not worried! :cool:
And as for inter...they are hopeless..a draw would have been better for us but (even if it sound wrong) if I have to choose between inter and juve I go for the black&whites all the way...you can't imagine what we had to bear last may...so, no mercy for the losers!!!! lol

And now as you said let's see the qualifiers matches! Hope that Italy will close the issue as soon as possible!

[Domlegolas]

I am vert pleasure to read this messages after a month as I wasnt here.
It gave me some information bceause I was so busy...But who won when MU lost??
But I am still overwhelm,let me take some time... :rose:

Yeah, happy brithday EoR!!!! entdraught

[Eowyn of Rohan]

Yeah, happy brithday EoR!!!! entdraught
Thank you Dom...you put a smile on my face!! :cuddles: :grin:

[Andy]

I am vert pleasure to read this messages after a month as I wasnt here.
It gave me some information bceause I was so busy...But who won when MU lost??
But I am still overwhelm,let me take some time... :rose:

Yeah, happy brithday EoR!!!! entdraught

It was 1-2 to Blackburn Rovers when Man Utd lost.

[Anarion]

Yeah, happy brithday EoR!!!! entdraught :o :o :o :o How did I miss this?? I'm so sorry! :birthday:

Cagliari 0 - 2 Milan
http://andriyshevchenko.net/albums/milan0506_1/ale.jpg
I didn't watch the game (will in about an hour), can't wait to see Pippo! :loveyou:

Sunderland 1 - 3 Manchester United
Hehe I love that tingly feeling I get when I think of the younger kids who will be breaking into the first team (Rossi, Blake, Pique, Jones,...)! VdS again showing he's worth more than we bought him for, and Ferguson, see what happens with a 4-4-2? 3 goals in the last two games! This is definitely a game we would have tied (or even lost) last season, so it feels good to win it (even if it is Sunderland). Ronaldo has been in mediocre form over the last few games (understandably), so hopefully Giggsy will be back for Lille.

Andy, who do you think Fergie will play up top with Ruud (assuming he goes 4-4-2)?

[Eowyn of Rohan]

:o :o :o :o How did I miss this?? I'm so sorry! :birthday:

Cagliari 0 - 2 Milan
http://andriyshevchenko.net/albums/milan0506_1/ale.jpg
I didn't watch the game (will in about an hour), can't wait to see Pippo! :loveyou:
Thanks hon!! :grin: You're all so sweet :blush:

I had 2 gifts from "my boys": Italy grabbed the qualification for Germany 2006 and so did Brasil & Ucraina :yahoo: and yesterday we won + Pippo is back!!!

Wednesday back on Champions League vs. PSV...I'll be there, hope to see a good one! :)

[Andy]

:o :o :o :o How did I miss this?? I'm so sorry! :birthday:

Cagliari 0 - 2 Milan
http://andriyshevchenko.net/albums/milan0506_1/ale.jpg
I didn't watch the game (will in about an hour), can't wait to see Pippo! :loveyou:

Sunderland 1 - 3 Manchester United
Hehe I love that tingly feeling I get when I think of the younger kids who will be breaking into the first team (Rossi, Blake, Pique, Jones,...)! VdS again showing he's worth more than we bought him for, and Ferguson, see what happens with a 4-4-2? 3 goals in the last two games! This is definitely a game we would have tied (or even lost) last season, so it feels good to win it (even if it is Sunderland). Ronaldo has been in mediocre form over the last few games (understandably), so hopefully Giggsy will be back for Lille.

Andy, who do you think Fergie will play up top with Ruud (assuming he goes 4-4-2)?

It depends on who is injured I guess. If Rooney is available to play then he will. But seeing as he isn't, he might just put Scholes into the "behind the striker" role. I can't see him starting Rossi, but he may play him at some part in the game. I'll just have to see who starts when I'm there tonight :p

[Anarion]

Andy, who do you think Fergie will play up top with Ruud (assuming he goes 4-4-2)?Pfft. My mistake. I don't care where Scholes was listed on that little sheet of paper, that was not a 4-4-2. That was a 4-5-1. (Oh I'm sorry, did I say 4-5-1? I meant 4-3-3 :rolleyes:...)
It depends on who is injured I guess. If Rooney is available to play then he will. But seeing as he isn't, he might just put Scholes into the "behind the striker" role. I can't see him starting Rossi, but he may play him at some part in the game. I'll just have to see who starts when I'm there tonight :pAt least Ferguson can't play Scholes next time. He's been playing his way out of the starting XI since the beginning of a season and while I'm not glad that he's suspended, it will force change in the lineup. Also wtf with the incredibly late sub? Park should have come on at half time (at the very least at the hour) for Scholes, with Ronaldo playing just behind Ruud. A poor display from almost everyone...Needless to say, this team is frighteningly dependent on Rooney. :-/

A kind of sidenote, but I'm getting increasingly frustrated with Ronaldo. He's obviously not been playing well and he needs to ride the bench until he earns a starting place. While his pace is a huge part of his game, he goes running blindly and tries to take on the whole freaking defense without looking up once to put a cross in or try to create for others. He started tracking a bit deeper towards the end of the game, helping out defensively *a little* (for once!), but really Park should have been out there from the start, and proved it by showing more invention in about 10 minutes than the rest of the team did the whole game.

Oh, and Park as Captain = lol

How was the game from where you were sitting? :blush:

[Andy]

Pfft. My mistake. I don't care where Scholes was listed on that little sheet of paper, that was not a 4-4-2. That was a 4-5-1. (Oh I'm sorry, did I say 4-5-1? I meant 4-3-3 :rolleyes:...)
At least Ferguson can't play Scholes next time. He's been playing his way out of the starting XI since the beginning of a season and while I'm not glad that he's suspended, it will force change in the lineup. Also wtf with the incredibly late sub? Park should have come on at half time (at the very least at the hour) for Scholes, with Ronaldo playing just behind Ruud. A poor display from almost everyone...Needless to say, this team is frighteningly dependent on Rooney. :-/

A kind of sidenote, but I'm getting increasingly frustrated with Ronaldo. He's obviously not been playing well and he needs to ride the bench until he earns a starting place. While his pace is a huge part of his game, he goes running blindly and tries to take on the whole freaking defense without looking up once to put a cross in or try to create for others. He started tracking a bit deeper towards the end of the game, helping out defensively *a little* (for once!), but really Park should have been out there from the start, and proved it by showing more invention in about 10 minutes than the rest of the team did the whole game.

Oh, and Park as Captain = lol

How was the game from where you were sitting? :blush:

I agree with you completely. Park should be playing all the time as he is on great form. By keeping him on the bench he is wondering what he is doing wrong and thereby wrecking his confidence.

I had some awesome seats, I sit there quite a lot too. It's about 10 rows up from the touchline at the part where they come out of the tunnel and walk down the side of the pitch.

On other news, what do you think about Ronaldo being arrested last night on accusation of rape? I know there have been a lot of failed cases against footballers in the past because of lieing women, but you can't be assumptions based off previous cases. I hope he didn't do it though, it would be a shame to waste a talent like his.

[Anarion]

I had some awesome seats, I sit there quite a lot too. It's about 10 rows up from the touchline at the part where they come out of the tunnel and walk down the side of the pitch.Is it a noisy section? I went to a (pre-season) United game two years ago and sat in a section of loud (by that I mean loud lol) fans from England...great great atmosphere, but it must be 100x better when United is playing a meaningful game! :grin:
On other news, what do you think about Ronaldo being arrested last night on accusation of rape?I don't understand your system terribly well (in the US, arrested = charged), but apparently he wasn't charged with anything yet...so that's good news. If he didn't do it, what hurts me most is that Ronnie's career was damaged the second he was accused -- b/c even if he bounces back to play the best football of his life (a la Becks), how do you remove the stigma of "accused rapist"? :( But if he really did do it, then by all means - lock him up and let him spend the rest of his life knowing he could have been one of the greatest players in the world, but let it all go down the drain over one stupid night.

Oy, almost forgot: predictions for the game tomorrow! I expect to see 4-3-3/4-5-1 with Fergie playing for the draw :rolleyes:, but what I want to see is a Park-Smith-Fletch-Ronaldo mid. :blush: I think this will either be 0-0 or 3-1, depending on what formation we use.

[Andy]

Is it a noisy section? I went to a (pre-season) United game two years ago and sat in a section of loud (by that I mean loud lol) fans from England...great great atmosphere, but it must be 100x better when United is playing a meaningful game! :grin:
I don't understand your system terribly well (in the US, arrested = charged), but apparently he wasn't charged with anything yet...so that's good news. If he didn't do it, what hurts me most is that Ronnie's career was damaged the second he was accused -- b/c even if he bounces back to play the best football of his life (a la Becks), how do you remove the stigma of "accused rapist"? :( But if he really did do it, then by all means - lock him up and let him spend the rest of his life knowing he could have been one of the greatest players in the world, but let it all go down the drain over one stupid night.

Oy, almost forgot: predictions for the game tomorrow! I expect to see 4-3-3/4-5-1 with Fergie playing for the draw :rolleyes:, but what I want to see is a Park-Smith-Fletch-Ronaldo mid. :blush: I think this will either be 0-0 or 3-1, depending on what formation we use.

Yeah, the atmosphere is always loud, even on the Pre-season. But yeah, it's really something when a big game is on. Or the Manchester Derby lol

Well in the UK being arrested just means you are taken in for questioning, and then they decide whether to charge you or not after that.

Midfield today should by Park-Smith-Fletcher-Ronaldo as you said. And I would have Rossi-Rooney up front. But I can't see that happening. I was watching the Reserves play on MUTV and Rossi scored an awesome gola too. Him and Sylvan-Blake are something to look forward to. They got about 30 goals between them as a partnership last season in the reserves.

[Anarion]

Him and Sylvan-Blake are something to look forward to. They got about 30 goals between them as a partnership last season in the reserves.I'm not sure how ready Blake is for the first team, though. He seems to be tearing it up with the reserves and he's been training with the senior team too, but from the very little I've been able to see, Rossi definitely seems like more of a "finished product", so to speak. Exciting as Rossi-Blake sounds though, I can't see Ferguson throwing on two forwards of minimal height...which is why while Ruud's around/healthy, I don't think Rossi will ever start up front with Roo. :(

I'm not sure how we played today (I couldn't watch), but it sounds, from most accounts, like we should have won. :(
Luckily, there was plenty of fun to be had elsewhere around England:
- Liverpool lost. :grin: To Fulham. :grin:
- City lost. :grin:
- "How NOT to Take a Penalty Kick (Unless You are Cruyff)", by Robert Pires. (http://www.uploadsend.com/complete.php?filepath=1689) :grin:
- Wigan in 4th :o would be a lot funnier if we weren't behind them.

[Andy]

Well first half we were all over them, second half we got lazy. Seems to be the new trend at Old Trafford.

Lately Ruud seems to be way off the mark, it's like he's lost a yard or two. I know he is scoring, thing is they seem to be all easy goals, it's not like he has done anything awesome to get it.

[Anarion]

Middlesbrough 4 - 1 Manchester United
:blink: :thud:
Only got to watch the first half (lucky me :rolleyes:..), but....wow. I don't think I've ever seen United play so uncohesively. I've defended Fergie for a while now, but really - he's tactically inept and he can't motivate them the way he used to...I still don't think any decision should be made at this point, but if play doesn't pick up soon, then..... *sigh*:( Maybe this is just emotions talking. Oh, and if O'Shea is allowed to even watch a United game ever again, I might hurt someone verymad. Only plus was how incredible Rooney is. He looked amazing out there, trying to hard to get done what everyone else refused to. He never stopped, never gave up, tried to carry the team on his back. Lucky for me, after I returned home and checked the score, my anger was (semi-)relieved as I also discovered...

Milan 3 - 1 Juventus!
:yahoo: 9 games, what? Oh I love it when people write Milan off and plaster Juventus all over their predictions...it just makes winning that much sweeter! Poor Sheva on the sidelines looked like he was dying to get in on this match! Beautiful team effort, we were absolutely solid the whole way through in all areas of the field. The goals weren't pretty and the play sure wasn't either (I'm lookin' at you, Mutu), but at the end of the day all that matters is: 9 games, what? :shhh: And Gattuso, bless his heart! Isn't the most skillful by a long shot, but he played with the passion of all the fans and sacrificed himself for the team :brave:.

Oy what an up-down day for me. I guess this is the benefit of having 2 teams..?

[Eowyn of Rohan]

Milan 3 - 1 Juventus!
:yahoo: 9 games, what? Oh I love it when people write Milan off and plaster Juventus all over their predictions...it just makes winning that much sweeter! Poor Sheva on the sidelines looked like he was dying to get in on this match! Beautiful team effort, we were absolutely solid the whole way through in all areas of the field. The goals weren't pretty and the play sure wasn't either (I'm lookin' at you, Mutu), but at the end of the day all that matters is: 9 games, what? :shhh: And Gattuso, bless his heart! Isn't the most skillful by a long shot, but he played with the passion of all the fans and sacrificed himself for the team :brave:.
Anarion what a night!! I was so excited..I saw the whole match and we played really well..I was waiting to see my boys like that! :cool:
For the first time this season..I can't complain about anyone!

But then happens what happened yesterday VS: PSV...Jeez, why can't we get focused on the Champions League this year???

[Andy]

Manchester United 1 - 0 Chelsea

Yes, it did happen! Utd ended Chelsea's 40 game unbeaten run, just like they ended Arsenal's 49 game run.

Fletcher scored a looping header which went in at the back-post. But Chelsea played well in the second half, and Utd were lucky to keep them from scoring. Overall, go Utd :D

[Domlegolas]

Hallo?? Where is everyone who loves football (soccer)??
Or Winter Olympics steals u??.....

Sad that MU lost last game with Liverpool (FA cup).... mecry

And surprised that Egypt won for African Cup, congrats!!!!! And I am really happy because (Ivory C.) D.Drogba didnt win first place,sorry.. (Excuse me who Chelsea fans is around here???...)

Ekkk, Totti isnt sure if he will join World Cup this summer, I hopeful he will but I dont know how it is serious with his feet... hmm....
Do some of u know if Veiri is still with the team?? :beg:

[Witch-king of Angmar]

Totti broke his ankle.... :(
I'm afraid he won't be ready for the World Cup....

[Eowyn of Rohan]

Hallo?? Where is everyone who loves football (soccer)??
Or Winter Olympics steals u??.....
Hi Domlegolas!! So good to see you! :grin:
The Winter Olympics are really stealing me..I watch pretty much everything...curling included!!! ;)

Sad that MU lost last game with Liverpool (FA cup).... mecry
Yeah, that's sad; honestly I'll never ever stay by L. side!! :nono:

And surprised that Egypt won for African Cup, congrats!!!!! And I am really happy because (Ivory C.) D.Drogba didnt win first place,sorry.. (Excuse me who Chelsea fans is around here???...)
definitely no chelsea fan here..go on Dom!:p

Ekkk, Totti isnt sure if he will join World Cup this summer, I hopeful he will but I dont know how it is serious with his feet... hmm....
Do some of u know if Veiri is still with the team?? :beg:
As the W-K said is indeed pretty serious...actually it's painful to think about it! :o
As for Vieri, Milan managed to send him to Monaco..and honestly I hope he will stay where he is!!! :whistle:
Gosh..why can't KAkà and Sheva play for Italy?? lol lol

[Witch-king of Angmar]

Hi Domlegolas!! So good to see you! :grin:
The Winter Olympics are really stealing me..I watch pretty much everything...curling included!!! ;)

GO CURLING!!!!!!!!!!!:whoohoo: :hooray: :gofatty:

[Domlegolas]

Nice to see u both again!!!! :wave:

Ohh, broke ankle.. It is difficult to be good again in a few months.
It happened with Michael Owen right recently with knee (I think so)...
Oh well.... But he hasnt same style play as Totti ;) but they both have their own skill to play.

:hooray: No Chelsea fans!!! Thanks for letting me to know ;)

Hehe, always want to good player in team like u wrote about Kaka and Sheva..
Hmm... It is the same thing with me as I always want Gerrard in MU but he is Liverpool.... Ughh!!!!

EoR, u arent alone about Winter Olympic ;) but today and last night I missed all of games because I was so busy... Curling? Is it so good for Italy right now?
Sorry,my priority is SUPER-G!!! Love it!!:p

:rose:

[Eowyn of Rohan]

Hmm... It is the same thing with me as I always want Gerrard in MU but he is Liverpool.... Ughh!!!!
sorry, but I still can't look at him :-/

EoR, u arent alone about Winter Olympic ;) but today and last night I missed all of games because I was so busy... Curling? Is it so good for Italy right now?
Sorry,my priority is SUPER-G!!! Love it!!:p
lol Italy is not good at curling!! I think that our team includes the total no. of the italian players!!! :lmao:
I like sky too..our Giorgio Rocca shoud be racing today..fingers crossed! :blush:

[Andy]

I thought the curling was broing this year. The skeleton is where it's at.

Man Utd won the Carling Cup Final 4-0 against Wigan. :D