Eowyn

[Sindarin]

Simply stated, she is a beautiful and intelligent woman. as well as a brave, stong-willed/minded warrior.

She is an all-around wonderful LOTR woman :loveyou:

Need I say more? :)

[Nessa]

Well, because you invited me: lol roflmao lol

But really I think you've made a good choice. One of my favorate characters, not a title usually reserved for the big folk. ;)

How do you feel about Miranda Otto? Or should I not ask.......

[Sindarin]

I like Miranda just fine. :thumbs:

Although I prefer the character Eowyn, Miranda is her portrayer. Let's just say I like them both. :loveyou:

[Loravarnion Darkstone]

ah yes, the divine miss Otto, porttraying the divine (though albeit emotionally disturbed) miss Eowyn.
I can't tink of a better choice for the role of Eowyn....well maybe Naomi Watts.

[Sindarin]

I don't quite picture Watts as Eowyn.

[TheRingBearer]

Miranda Otto is the perfect choice for Ewoyn is you ask me :thumbs:

[Tar-Ancalimë]

I really wanna see Eowyn!! Like really, not just trailers &c.

She's one of my fav characters too (though to be polite I won't say anything about Otto)

Maybe slightly disturbed, but she fixes it fine in RofK :)

[Loravarnion Darkstone]

I think Watts is a bit too pretty for Eowyn but basically, if they ruffed her up a bit she'd be a fine Eowyn.
Miranda's better though.

[Pil]

I think Eowyn needs that kind of.....ruffledness....or she would look too pretty and aragorn would have chosen HER over arwen! lol

[Bonos-Girl]

if i was aragorn and i was in the film lotr then i would've chosen eowyn over arwen....

[Tar-Ancalimë]

Me 2!!!!!

Though I must admit, a certain Tyler might have something to do with this sentiment...

[Little Devil]

Mirander Otto's gonna be a perfect Eowyn! :thumbs:

[Tar-Ancalimë]

i hope so... the trailers look WONDERFUL

[Pil]

She looks exactly right....good piece of casting! :thumbs:

[Loravarnion Darkstone]

yeah she is possibley the best casting choice after Ian Mckellan, Elijah Wood, Viggo Mortensen, Cate Blanchett, Bernard Hill, Karl Urban, Brad Douriff, Christopher Lee, Liv Tyler, Sean Astin, Sean Bean...
ah hell, who isn't well cast?

[Catz]

Ummmm....Liv !!! lol lol....*catz scampers for the exit*
:catz:

[Pil]

*pil grabs catz by the collar and drags her back*

I NEED BACK UP! lol

Yeah I agree....liv was one of the worst castings....fortunately eowyn manages to pick up on the female casting side....

[Bonos-Girl]

i agree completely

[Catz]

catz dont wear collars!!!:rolleyes: lol
at least, not this kittycatz lol....and dont worry Pil....i wont abandon you;) roflmao
:catz:

[Pil]

*pil apoligises for the mistake and trys to figure out what to do with the diamond collar she was gonna send for christmas* lol

Good to know i'm not abandoned, thanks! :)

[Tar-Ancalimë]

Tyler is NOT well cast... I can back you up 2!

But Eowyn looks excellent... as i think ive said before! lol

[Lady Melody]

Liv Tyler AT LEAST looked the part... I mean, flawless dark beauty and all :rolleyes: But still... Eowyn is the best...!!! Girl power!!! roflmao

I dunno about you guys, but if I'm a guy, I'd go for a fighting woman than a whiny one who's like glass any day!! :p

Well, in any case, Eowyn ROCKS!! :thumbs:

[Pil]

You couldn't take arwen anywhere without her wanting to keep clean....eowyn doesn't mind roughing it a bit! lol

[Catz]

hehehe yeah.....can you imagine those lusterous dark locks after a night sleeping rough??????
Anyway...however much fun it is, this isnt an Arwen bashing thread, its an Eowyn thread....
and i have to say she looks very convincing with a sword......its great:cool: :thumbs:
:catz:

[Elf angel]

Originally posted by Tar-Ancalimë
Tyler is NOT well cast... I can back you up 2!

But Eowyn looks excellent... as i think ive said before! lol

Eowyn?....i have to watch TTT first.

[Tar-Ancalimë]

Yes but we see her in all the trailers and we know Mirando Otto's good.

[Loravarnion Darkstone]

same as we all deep down know that Liv was the best Arwen ever.

[Catz]

there isnt THAT much deep anywhere Darkstone;) lol lol
:catz:

[Lady Melody]

You know, whoever cast Eowyn is a down-right genius!!! But still, how the heck do you maintain beauty when you're roughing it out ALL the time???

*sighs* Some people have ALL the luck...

lol roflmao lol roflmao lol roflmao lol

[Gatsby]

Right, miranda was wonderfully cast, liv... eh they could've done better, maybe gweneth paltrow (who is always unbelievably elegant). But i have a feeling that in the TT jackson is going to make it seem as though Aragorn also had feelings for Eowyn, just for fun. I'll bet anyone that that's what's going to happen.
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p.s even though it's not tolkien's vision (that's happing a bunch in the movies), i think it would enhance the movie, who doesn't love a love triangle?

[Gatsby]

if i was a guy i would have gone with eowyn too

[Gatsby]

just so i wouldn't have elrond as a phsycho father in law. elrond is GREAT, don't get me wrong but i can see him as being WAY overprotective of his daughter.
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[Tar-Ancalimë]

you got me there... not that im a guy and not that id want liv anyway!

[Lady Melody]

:mmmm: I thought Liv Tyler is a bisex... well, never mind..

Hahahahhaa... Hey, Elrond does what EVERY parent does for his kid, except that he's more like that cause (Come on, immortals.. you know how THEY can be sometimes!!)

;) ;) ;) :cool: ;) ;) ;)

[Tar-Ancalimë]

Oh yeah I interact with them all the time... I know just what you're talking about!

[Catz]

like i keep telling Elrond........its the first thousand years of teenagerhood thats the worst.....after that its all downhill...that is, until they come home with a scruffy long haired mortal in tow and tell you theyre getting married!!!!
:catz:

[Loravarnion Darkstone]

Gwyneth as Arwen? besides the fact that she's blonde, she wouldn't make a good elf, she's too old and isn't especially attractive. I mean, she's quite pretty, but has no presence she's just there, and doesn't stand out from any other pretty girl you'd pass on the street.

[Gatsby]

i've seen her with black hair and she looks really pretty, and liv isn't particularly attractive either. but i can see your point
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[Gatsby]

lol @ catz. It's so true, i keep telling him "it's a phase!! she'll get over that mortal and settle down with a nice respectable elf and move to the gray havens"

[Eowyn]

lol

[Tary]

Oh come on liv was a good arwen stop making fun of herverymad. in the new trailer we get to see more of Eowyn she is very beautiful:)

[Bonos-Girl]

ok.....calm down...it's a forum, and therefore people can make there views clear to everyone....that being the point....

[Gatsby]

eowyn is my personal hero, less arwen more eowyn!!
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[Eowyn]

I agree! lol

[Bonos-Girl]

i think most people do!!!
except some guys of course!!!

[Tary]

WOW Eowyn she is so very very beautiful.:blush:legolas is my fave charcter though he is so cool with his bow.

[Eowyn]

don't twist the thread to him he has enough threads ;) lol

[Pil]

:thumbs: lol

I think eowyn should get a lot more screen time than arwen in the next film...if it's the other way round then it will be really out of order...:angry:

[Gatsby]

she better or i WILL write an angry letter to pj, she has a bigger role in the book, there for she should get more time in the movie.
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[Pil]

Exactly my point...i mean....SURE....enhance arwen's role in the first one if you're desperate...but give eowyn her kick-butt girl-power thing...arwen will mess it up with her prissy ways...we want rough and tough...but still feminine and attractive...really cool eowyn! :thumbs:

[Eowyn]

:thumbs: well said Pil!

But arwens still there although thankfully not at helms deep!

[Tary]

Eowyn may be in more in the Return of the king.

[Loravarnion Darkstone]

I think it's quite evident that by this stage Arwen will have a larger role than Eowyn.
perhaps not, but from what I've seen it looks that way.
has anyone seen dead letter office? Miranda was greta in that and oooooooooooooh so sexy!

[Gatsby]

well i think that they really needed to have two really distinct characters in order to have a love triangle that worked. Arwen is beautiful, graceful and wise (sh's got to be, she's wicked old!) but she's not a warrior and (in my opinion) lacks passion. eowyn is a warrior, she's passionate, brave, and beautiful, but she is kind of reckless and is desperate need of some prozac (the poor thing). The love triangle wouldnt work if arwen was also a warrior, because aragorn would have no reason to be interested in eowyn because arwen would be everything he wanted. But since both characters have something that the other lacks, the love triangle will be that much more interesting and suspenceful. we know who he chooses and we know it's for the best because the other will fall in love with someone who matches her perfectly *sigh*
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[Tary]

Oh i was happy that Eowyn ended up with you know who they were perfect for each other it was very nice.

[Eowyn]

:whoohoo: don't get me started!

[Pil]

lol Start a thread for him! Or make it a joint one...Faramir AND Eomer...only you don't have to love eomer...in that way...oh pil...when you're in a hole..stop digging... :blush: lol

P.S. Nicely put Gtasby! :thumbs:

[Eowyn]

ok I'll start a thread!

[Pil]

HAHA! That'll teach you to leave out eomer...now there's a thread for him too! lol j/k...there IS a thread...but i'm not offended by the lack of affection for eomer...i mean...i'm not a fan of inbreeding either... roflmao :nono: lol

[Pil]

http://members.tripod.com/padawanjenn/LotR/twotowers/poster1.jpg

OMG! Love triangle or what?! Oooo...i'm all a fluster...sooo excited! :hooray:

[Gatsby]

i know!! some people don't want that to happen becuase that's not how it went down in the book (aragorn's aditude was 'get away from me') but i think that the triangle will make the movie sooooooo much better and more promotes a more well rounded audience. with all the battle scenes and male testosterone (did i spell that right?) you gotta have something for the ladies!
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p.s not that i don't LOVE the battle scenes... ooooh leggy and aragorn fighting very nice

[Pil]

I get what you mean...but isn't the whole thing a bit...i dunno...soap opera?! lol

[Eowyn]

I didn't want it to happen. I do take offence at the 'something for the ladies' thing though! Not all women want soppy love stories. i like films with battle scenes just as much as any bloke. I don't mind love storys but its rare I see a movie for that reason. :huh: just me though I guess...:huh:

[Gatsby]

i'm not saying that you don't eowyn!! i know that there are a kabajillion girls out there who absolutley love battle scenes (myself included) but there are also another kabajillion girls who don't really care for them and will enjoy the romance. i didn't mean to offend anyone.
pil yeah it is kind of soap opera ish but in a fantasy film i think anything goes!
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[Tar-Ancalimë]

I am bumping this one up as well :thumbs:

go eowyn

[Eowyn]

fair enough Gatsby!

[Bonos-Girl]

i still think that there shouldn't be too much emphasis in the 'love triangle' thing.....what book was PJ reading coz it sure as hell wasn't ttt!!

[Gatsby]

he obviously wanted them to have a threesome... did i just say that out loud?
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[Luthien Anwamanë]

Hey fans of Eowyn! Where are you?roflmao

[Mánaskin]

im not a big fan of Eowyn but i think she is cool i mean really really cool:rolleyes:

[Tar-Ancalimë]

i think miranda did a very good job. although i'm afraid the next movie will make her seem like some kind of ****... one of the new rotk pics on the official site has her lying down next to aragorn like she's trying to seduce him... urgh

[Luthien Anwamanë]

Eowyn is my favourite female character!!!!

[Eowyn]

If PJ ruins her character I'll never watch another one of his films again (unless he remakes the hobbit.....even then I'll go grudgingly!) :angry:

Gatsby :o threesome :o I'm shocked :o

[Aranel]

Well, he changed Faramir
*mutters something incomprehensible and unprintable under breath*

[Eowyn]

hehehe! yes but wrong thread to discuss that! anyway why should he change Eowyn shes the perfect role model for modern women!

[Aranel]

She is indeed! She rocks! :hooray:

[Eowyn]

thank you my lady!

[Aranel]

Verily, you are most welcome!

[Luthien Anwamanë]

Go go Eowyn!!!!

[Winyaél Greenleaf]

I think Eowyn's waaaay cool! She's pretty and she can rough it out, she's not whiney (I hate whiners), and I love her dresses. Can't wait to see her in armour, fighting with the witchking in RotK!

And I agree with the previous comments that Liv as Arwen=Mis-cast.

By the way, why is it mostly us ladies replying to this thread? lol

[Tar-Ancalimë]

mostly because this is the fangirl forum... see a pattern? lol

[Eowyn]

lol I'm starting to see that now! lol

[Luthien Anwamanë]

I think that movie's Eowyn is warm, she has feelings but in the book she's different she's cold as a stone.

[Aranel]

No, I don't think she's cold, she's just trapped. She's not free to show her emotions because she is restricted by her role in society - she can't show how she feels because she has to care for Theoden. And she wants to appear cold to Wormtongue so the creep will get the hint and realise she's not interested!

[Winyaél Greenleaf]

i agree with Aranel. Ladies of ancient eras aren't really regarded as significant. (With exceptions in the elven kingdom of course) They aren't really free to show theur emotions.

[Luthien Anwamanë]

Does she look cold? She looks happy.


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(http://maidenfair.net/miranda/eowyn5.jpg)


She's warm

Does she really is cold?

(http://admiredmiranda.homestead.com/files/ssttt30.JPG)

[URL=http://maidenfair.net/miranda/eowyn27.jpg] (http://maidenfair.net/miranda/eowyn14.jpg)

[Winyaél Greenleaf]

Sheesh! Double posting! :nono: and hotlinking piccies from other sites! :nono: :nono:
Tar and Adun, you've got work cut out for you! lol

Well, I really like Eowyn's smile. It's sunny and warm. veryhappy

[Luthien Anwamanë]

Did I do something wrong???? Oh, I'm sorry. I just wanted to proove that Eowyn isn't cold in the movie. Well, to post pics was the best way to do it. Why isn't it allowed to post pictures from other sites if it's avaible to do then you post a replay??? I'm sorry once more.
Where should I post pictures from?

[Winyaél Greenleaf]

Well, if you post pics directly onto the post without using a url link, that's hot-linking, and it eats up bandwidth from the site that you've linked the pic from, and also deprives that site of traffic, so it's not very ethical. You can post your pics this way:
http://maidenfair.net/miranda/eowyn14.jpg

The pic can still be viewed when you click on the link. ;)

You can only post pics using the IMG code if the pic is from WotR itself.

[Mirkgirl]

Yup the Winster is right.... I have taken care of it... and I want to add that I did it for Adun as Tar's been a meanie lately (that's what HP does to people :nono: ) lol

Don't worry about it, Luthien, you didn;t know... just don't do it again (:

[Abendstern]

I really like the character of eowyn! She can do fightscenes without anyone complaining about it.
Yes, I liked arwen as a "warrior princess", though i'm nearly the only one. And i can't see why there couldn't have been two women with swords. Someone's mentioned that it steals eowyns speciality, but i think miranda otto would have been strong enough to prevent her character from bubbling under.

Nevertheless, can't wait to see her kicking the witchking's *** in ROTK!:thumbs:

[Eowyn]

Most people really like Eowyn and I can see why. She's a strong character and very much like ladies of old as Win said earlier they were not supposed to show their feelings.

I agree though I can't wait to see her fight the witch king! and I think Miranda Otto has done a good job with the character. Feelings are easier to explain when written down than when acted out so you will always feel for book characters more.

[Aranel]

Yes, Witch King fight should be good! :grin:

I thought Miranda Otto did very well... :thumbs:

[Luthien Anwamanë]

i hope they won't spoil anything that is related with Eowyn.....;)

[Eowyn]

I think all tolkien fans will agree with that Luthien! :)

[Abendstern]

http://bagendinn.com has a behind-the-scenes pic of a disguised mirando otto (talking with peter jackson) on a horse. :naughty:

[Eowyn]

oh thats good! i can't wait! :hyper:

[Ereinion]

:hyper: That pic is way too cool!:thumbs: Eowyn is so brave...mecry

[Eowyn]

I know! :grin: I'd have loved to play that role.... or at least ride the horse! I really want to go horse riding! :hyper: and learn to fight! :)

[Ereinion]

Definitly!:thumbs: Go maiden warriors! :knight:

[Rhianon]

Did anybody hear that it was rumored that Uma Thurman was said to have auditiioned for the role of Eowyn? I think she is too exotic looking to have played Eowyn. I am glad Miranda got the part.

[Iarfirithwen]

That and she can't act (ooo not a Thurman fan, can you tell :naughty: ). It made me shudder when I first heard that rumour. I was pacing round the house going "no-no-no" ;) (and can you imagine Ethan Hawke as Faramir *snicker ... shudder*).

Thank goodness for the brilliant casting of Otto! I love Miranda's portrayal of Eowyn.:

[Ereinion]

Originally posted by
Definitly!:thumbs: Go maiden warriors! :knight:

*shocked* Did I say this? Weird....

Hate Uma Turman...Good she wasn't cast as Eowyn... Miranda Otto fits this role the best! :thumbs:

[Rhianon]

I share all you sentiments on the subject. Have any of you see Miranda in DEAD LETTER OFFICE. That was a good movie and I also saw her in THE JACK BULL with John Cusack.

[Ereinion]

I never saw MO perform before, which I know realise is shame, because she's a really talented actress!

[Arveleg]

Miranda Otto (http://miranda.maidenfair.net/) is a great Éowyn, and I think faithfully brings the book character to the big screen, unlike some other women characters I could mention. ...

And her pic in battledress as she reveals her womanhood to the Witchking.... Yes! Go Miranda!

[Eomund]

thats true, you are totally right

GO Eowyn, Go Eowyn, Go Eowyn...

[Eowyn]

but why did tey change her lines?
In her big scene with the witch king, why change already perfect lines? ok I admit they can cut a few bits (eg. the "daughter of Eomund" bit) but why change the rest mecry they made her lines sound cheesy! :(

I'm still convinced they've cut a bit of that scene though

[Abendstern]

maybe there's something more in the ROTK EE... along with some other missing scenes...

[Eowyn]

thats what I'm hoping :grin:

[Secondbreakfast]

eowyn/miranda is cool!! GIRL POWER!!:thumbs: :ring: :cool:

[Night Wolf]

<---is a major fan of Eowyn and all those lovely women of rohan ;)

*drools for Eowyn* :naughty:

[Caillach]

Well the title sums the discussion up...I saw that there was a Faramir and Eowyn thread but as much as I like Faramir I think that Eowyn deserves her own thread.

Eowyn is a character around which much debate has sprung up. Should she have left Rohan and gone to battle? or should she have stayed home to watch over the Rohanian lands?

Personally I have placed Eowyn on the lofty pedestal of my favorite character. Yes I know there are so many characters and how can you choose Eowyn over the always loveable Sam. But really I love Eowyn so much because of her blend of faults and strengths, and because in her character Tolkien did what so many other authors are struggling to do today. Write a strong female character who is still feminine.

Anyhow this is a thread in which I hope we can entertain a wide variety of discussion on Eowyn in all her aspects, the good and the bad....

[Eomund]

and the bad....

okay...i cant remember a thing...

but she should have stayed at home...

i think she was the second or first femine character...

[Rhianon]

pfbbt How typical of a man! If she had stayed at home, the Witch-King of Angmar would have destroyed Gondor and Middlearth would have had to endure untold years of darkness. It was fate or destiny for her to gone to Gondor and she would never have met Faramir.

[Lalaith of Rohan]

Easy there, Rhianon. ;) :cool: Look at it this way. Pretend that events hadn't happened to fall into place like they did. What if the Witch King had killed Eowyn? Or what if she had never encountered him? One soldier's not gonna kill that many orcs, and in the meantime Rohan is left without a leader, and no one to protect them if Minas Tirith falls and the war is lost. It was impulsive of her, although her heart was in the right place, and she certainly showed those men what for, now, didn't she? :thumbs: But the fact of the matter remains: She left her people to do what SHE wanted to do. No, it wasn't fair that she always had to be left behind, but it was an irresponsible move. Still, things worked out, she kicked butt, fell in love, and lived happily ever after.

[Hope of the Evenstar]

I agree with LoR, that was irresponsible. But she would have died if Merry hadn't saved her, but she WAS suicidal, so, there you go.........she's too deppressive for me. Arwen speshul! But NO, don't say "well, I don't see her killing thw Witch-king." cause people don't have to kill him to be totally-kewl. eowyn needed serious therapy.

[Tar-Ancalimë]

Right, I'm just going to merge these threads... keep the forum tidy.

For the record, I love Eowyn and her romance with Faramir is one of my favorite parts of the trilogy. :grin:

[Myrth]

Right, I'm just going to merge these threads... keep the forum tidy.

For the record, I love Eowyn and her romance with Faramir is one of my favorite parts of the trilogy. :grin:
Bah... power has corrupted you, young one...

[Tar-Ancalimë]

Duh... I'll delete your post and then we'll see just how corrupted I am. Now stay on topic, before I smite you... again.

[Abendstern]

Easy there, Rhianon. ;) :cool: Look at it this way. Pretend that events hadn't happened to fall into place like they did. What if the Witch King had killed Eowyn? Or what if she had never encountered him? One soldier's not gonna kill that many orcs, and in the meantime Rohan is left without a leader, and no one to protect them if Minas Tirith falls and the war is lost. It was impulsive of her, although her heart was in the right place, and she certainly showed those men what for, now, didn't she? :thumbs: But the fact of the matter remains: She left her people to do what SHE wanted to do. No, it wasn't fair that she always had to be left behind, but it was an irresponsible move. Still, things worked out, she kicked butt, fell in love, and lived happily ever after.

I totally agree... and I must say, although I like Miranda Otto, that I loved the book character more... she's just a little bit to whiney in the movies, esp. in TTT...

but anyway... look at this... a little cap from the ROTK EE footage...
http://apotheosis.tv/files/Unbenannt61.jpg

[Tar-Ancalimë]

Aw, let's leave the spoilers to those who want them.

Not that that was a really bad spoiler, but still... :)

[Abendstern]

*slaps self* ooooh, I'm sooo sorry... :grin: didn't think of that... *hangs head in shame* :blush:

[Caillach]

I totally agree... and I must say, although I like Miranda Otto, that I loved the book character more... she's just a little bit to whiney in the movies, esp. in TTT...



I have to say that it was the book character, just as with Faramir, that I fell in love with as well.

Probably because both were much more well developed (and in Faramir's case helpful) in the books. But I found that Eowyn was well played for the small ammount of background and developement she was allowed. I would, however have liked to see more developement of Eowyn with a sacrifice of some of Arwen's time (both because I'm a huge fan of Eowyn and because it would have been more true to the book)

I agree Eowyn did act irresponsibly...but that's one thing that endeared me to her she was a character who was not acting purely as duty dictates and acted instead as her developement, history, and character dictated. Can you imagine her doing anything else given those factors?

And yes I've heard from many people that they think that Eowyn was too depressed/dark for them...and, of course, that is a purely personal preference. But with the shadow of Sauron falling upon the lands, with Wormtongue whispering in her ear as well as the king, with her cousin and heir to the throne dead, and with the only family she has left going off to war where they will likely die who wouldn't be a wee bit depressed?

These little details where Eowyn's character reacts and acts in situations as you have been led to believe she will by her previous developement flesh out her character for me and make her more accessable and easy to relate to.

I've also heard people say that she endangered Merry by bringing him along... now I don't think that's entirely true as Merry made the choice to come. Yes, I admit Eowyn did facilitate his accompanying them...but could she have done any differently without becoming extremely hypocritical... no I think Merry knowingly endangered himself...

Anyhow...enough for now

~Cai

[Rhianon]

I know,but this is just my opinion. I didn't think Eowyn was whiney at all in the movie.

[Abendstern]

I would, however have liked to see more developement of Eowyn with a sacrifice of some of Arwen's time (both because I'm a huge fan of Eowyn and because it would have been more true to the book)

*sigh* here we are again... I completely disagree... :p let's try to stop beating this dead horse, alright? :)

[Caillach]

*sigh* here we are again... I completely disagree... :p let's try to stop beating this dead horse, alright? :)


Wasn't going to even start...everyone is entitled to their own opinion...and like I said that was simply mine. ;) :)

[Abendstern]

:rolleyes: alright... I said that just in case... lol

and they already extended Eowyn's role in TTT - from 8 pages to don'tknowhowmuch minutes (not that I mind that) ... so even more maybe would have been not true to the book... :p
I think she's adequately characterized in the movies, she's at least understandable in her actions... it's just that I would've liked her stronger and less complaining... :grin:

[Caillach]

:rolleyes: alright... I said that just in case... lol

and they already extended Eowyn's role in TTT - from 8 pages to don'tknowhowmuch minutes (not that I mind that) ... so even more maybe would have been not true to the book... :p
I think she's adequately characterized in the movies, she's at least understandable in her actions... it's just that I would've liked her stronger and less complaining... :grin:

Oh I agree, but with the time constraints put on her character I imagine it would be extremely difficult to get her character spot on. But I do think that given the constraints of the movie they didn't do too poorly a job at characterizing her.

[Heart-of-a-Hobbit]

Eowyn of Rohan (http://www.warofthering.net/photoforum/showphoto.php?photo=3739&size=big&password=c2bf60630875c37b04fa4f7a74eaca29&sort=1&cat=500)
The Missing (http://www.warofthering.net/photoforum/showphoto.php?photo=1147&size=big&password=c2bf60630875c37b04fa4f7a74eaca29&sort=1&cat=500)
Shieldmaiden (http://www.warofthering.net/photoforum/showphoto.php?photo=1467&size=big&password=c2bf60630875c37b04fa4f7a74eaca29&sort=1&cat=500)
A New Beginning (http://www.warofthering.net/photoforum/showphoto.php?photo=2963&size=big&password=c2bf60630875c37b04fa4f7a74eaca29&sort=1&cat=500)
Hope (http://www.warofthering.net/photoforum/showphoto.php?photo=4328&size=big&password=c2bf60630875c37b04fa4f7a74eaca29&sort=1&cat=500)

[Caillach]

Those are beautiful thank you for them.

[Heart-of-a-Hobbit]

thank you!! would you mind commenting on them? I'd appreciate it!

[Lady Galadriel]

*sigh* here we are again... I completely disagree... let's try to stop beating this dead horse, alright?

Abendstern, what are you doing over here? lol Couldnt resist huh? The dead horse is being beaten again... lol

[Abendstern]

Abendstern, what are you doing over here? lol Couldnt resist huh? The dead horse is being beaten again... lol

lol ah well, I admit I started to like Eowyn - just not in relation with Aragorn and in competition with Arwen... lol and someone must have an eye on the comments here... lol

[Lady Galadriel]

That is too funny....you are admonishing moderation? lol I agree. I am certain that Tolkien loved both his characters. Maybe you could let the others on this thread know that. lol I dont think he wrote about any non-essential characters.

[Abendstern]

I dont think he wrote about any non-essential characters.
indeed! :thumbs:

and I have still faith in the eowyn fans that they one day will overcome the strange thought that Arwen and Eowyn are rivals... maybe when the SEE comes out and we finally see some E/F romance... :grin:

[Lady Galadriel]

I think people cannot see beyond the "supposed" drama that PJ hyped up to make the story line interesting. Hence, fans tend to take sides with both ladies which is really silly since Arwen does not know anything about Eowyn and Eowyn about Arwen. Gimme a break. :grin:

[Abendstern]

lol *sigh*

so, any Eowyn fans here to proof us wrong? :grin:

[Heart-of-a-Hobbit]

I dunno...I like the Eowyn of the books and of the movies

[Rhianon]

:read: In the books, Aragorn tries to tell Eowyn a couple of times about Arwen. In particular just as he is about to go on the Pathes of the Dead. In the movies as they are journeying to Helms Deep Aragorn mentions Arwen to Eowyn when she asks Aragorn about the necklace he is wearing.

[Abendstern]

:read: In the books, Aragorn tries to tell Eowyn a couple of times about Arwen. In particular just as he is about to go on the Pathes of the Dead. In the movies as they are journeying to Helms Deep Aragorn mentions Arwen to Eowyn when she asks Aragorn about the necklace he is wearing.
err...yes? lol I don't doubt it, I'm just not sure what you want to say with it... sorry... I'm a little bit slow today.... lol

[Caillach]

meh, I've never thought of them as competitors... Eowyn wasn't really in love with Aragorn... she was in love with the idea of the life she thought he could lead her to. If that makes any sense whatsoever.

[Abendstern]

:rolleyes: it does make sense and it's exactly what I'm thinking... :grin:

[White Lady of Rohan]

I agree with you guys :grin: . In the Houses of Healing Eowyn tells Faramir that she no longer wishes to be queen.

[Caillach]

I don't know that she ever did want to be queen... she may have thought she did... but I think it was more something she saw as a route out of the trap she had built in her mind...

[Rhianon]

I think that she would have been pretty miserable as queen. Everything did would have been watch since as queen Eowyn would have been mother of the heir to the throne. Eowyn would have been forced to hide her true self.

[Heart-of-a-Hobbit]

Yes, I think so too.

[queenofgreenleaves]

eowyn is a freak!!!!!!!!! admit it people shes depressed and werid wants to die a painful death in battle and is just a plain freak i mean ya famair (sp) is hot and she gets him but why does he like her i mean she tried to steal strider from arwen and shes a freak ok i mean how could you people be obsessed (sp i think) with eowyn AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH :nono: pfbbt :nono: pfbbt

[Abendstern]

:rolleyes: that's a little bit harsh, queenofgreenleaves, don't you think?

[queenofgreenleaves]

no lol

[Hope of the Evenstar]

Queen, you bad bad girl. You'll all have to excuse my cousin. She hasn't taken her meds today. ;)

[Arwen_Evenstar]

I love Eowyn! She is one of my fav. characters just because of her personality. And Miranda Otto was so perfect for that role. At first i didn't think so, but after i saw TTT, i think she was great!

[Heart-of-a-Hobbit]

Eowyn in chail mail full length pic (http://www.warofthering.net/photoforum/showphoto.php?photo=5304&size=big&sort=1&cat=500)

[Rhianon]

Lets :trout: her good! How can you say that about one of the few women in the whole saga who actually does anything! She has been and always will be one of my favorite female literary characters(after Lessa from THE DRAGON RIDERS OF PERN). pfbbt :battle: :fight:

[Hope of the Evenstar]

Don't trout Queen. She's highly unstable. And what are you talking about?! "Who actually does something." Please.......some of Tolkien's strongest characters are female, and it's not just Eowyn. You don't have to kill a Witch-king to be strong, physicaly and mentally. She would have died without Merry anyway.

[Abendstern]

I agree with Hope there... although I like Eowyn and don't appreciate the bashing (of any character btw, that's unnecessary, even if one doesn't like them...)
I really looked forward to her scene with the Witch-king in the movie and yes, I cheered, but it peeves me every time that most people forget about Merry's part in it...

[Rhianon]

Everybody is entitled to their opinion. Merry does play a very important role in the slaying of the Lord of the Nazgul. He does derserve a lot of credit helping her out by distracting the Witchking at the vital moment. :grin:

[Amaryliss]

hey all! Eowyn is one of my all time favourate heroines but i do think that Merry's part is undervalued slightly..though we can't have it all ways :-)

[Abendstern]

welcome Amaryliss! :grin:

though we can't have it all ways :-)
usually I would agree, but here it's just the wee detail when ranting about Eowyn's heroinism (or whatever lol ) - it's all okay to do that, but I don't think it's that hard to not forget Merry's part... she would be really dead without him - heroine or not ;)

[queenofgreenleaves]

torut me trout me trout me!!! :whoohoo: :hooray: :p i think merry is the one who playz a big part in the killing of the withch king and there are more important chartchers who are female besides eowyn pfbbt

[Hope of the Evenstar]

Queen likes trouble, as you've noticed. But Eowyn's part was a bit overplayed in the movie............she didn't get to dogde that mace. The Witch-king hit her once, and would have killed her with the second blow if Merry hadn't stepped in. But this is not a good place for me to be in. And you wonder why Queen doesn't like Eowyn.............thats my fault. :blush: She thought Eowyn was cool untill I told her my opinion............O well. Trout me trout me trout me! :hooray: veryhappy :trout:

[Rhianon]

Like I said before,you are entitled to your opinion. How can you say that Eowyn is not as important as other female characters.

[Arwen_Evenstar]

I think Eowyn played a large role in the book. You certianly see her more then you see Arwen, or even Galadriel. I know that the other two women have large parts behind the scenes, but Eowyn is the one who speaks out. Half of the Stewart and the King focuses back on Eowyn, and her desire to leave and fight, but then she falls in love with Faramir.

And yes, she was a bit over played in the movies, but who wasn't? Plus, I think that she was needed, because of the way the role of women have changed in society from the time the books were written.

[Hope of the Evenstar]

woop-di-doo for you peoples. Have fun with the suicidal sheildmadien. But don't think I wish that she didn't exist. I've even written an Eowyn fic.....and NO, I did not take my dislike out on her through my writing. I love Eowyn/unrequited Aragorn love fics. Namarie. I must reach Minas Tirith before the first day of Autumn, and that's a long journey.

[Heart-of-a-Hobbit]

You're Gone (http://www.warofthering.net/photoforum/showphoto.php?photo=5539&size=big&sort=1&cat=525) mecry

[Rhianon]

I have finally done it! I have put my fan fiction on my livejournal. You can find it on one of the livejournal sites. I would be very happy if some of you would read it.

[queenofgreenleaves]

why dont you people trout me i mean u like eoywn so you probly have notin better to do jkjk lol

no i wasnt hqahahahaha lol lol

[Hope of the Evenstar]

Evil Queen. :batty:
But like I said, eowyn's too suicidal and deppressive for me. But thats ok, I have better things to spend my time with. A/A is much more interesting. Delve deeper.

O môr henion i dhû
Ely siriar, él síla
Ai! Aníron Undomiel

Tiro! Él eria e môr
I 'lîr en êl luitha 'uren
Ai! Aníron...

[Rhianon]

We already know what your opinion of Eowyn is. :battle: This is after all a thread for fans of the character. I can't wait to see her scenes that were not included in the theatrical release. Especially her scenes with :faramir:. I was so disappointed when they did not include the Houses of Healing scenes.

[Charmander]

I am right there with you! I was watching and waiting, she kills the fell beast and witchking and the next time we see her she's fine! And I was like, what a minute, we're missing something here!

I think if she was a little suicidal she was justified at least in the sense that she wanted to die for what she believed in, not because some guy didn't like her, which I think is totally wrong - she just wanted renown and honour - who can't relate!

[Hope of the Evenstar]

She would rather die. I think it's a little foolish to want to die for glory. She already had honor. She just didn't see it. I wouldn't abandon my people so that I could die admist the slaughter of Pelannor, just for renown. I mean, if the people of Rohan would be ok without me, and if I had some plan, to help someone or whatever, I'd definitely do it. It's strange that I never liked Eowyn, because I'm very pro-woman warrior. Artemis, Athena, Diana, they rock. Not Eowyn.

[Rhianon]

pfbbt Haven't you gotten the message, HotE! This a thread for fans of the Eowyn. We know that you hate Eowyn and wish that she would have died,but tell me this if you think that Faramir should have ended up with someone else, who do you think he should have married? :fight:

[Charmander]

I can't wait for the HoH! Since Tolkien said he stumbled onto Faramir well after he created the character of Eowyn I can't imagine him thinking of anyone else for him. Faramir and Eowyn were made for each other :)!

[Hope of the Evenstar]

Hey, don't go putting type in my mouth. I never said that I wished she would die. In fact, I believe that I said that it was a good thing she didn't die. I'm glad for her and Faramir and all, and I think she's a cool character. I don't really hate her. I just feel indifference to her. So don't start fighting me, 'cause I'm not gonna unsheath my sword for such a battle. For now, I'm a warrior of peace. :rose:

[Night Wolf]

mmm eowyn *drools* :p

[Rhianon]

Don't be so defensive! I was just defending my homegirl. You have every right to feel the way you do about Eowyn. Just as I have every right to back her up. :grin:

[Charmander]

I gotta say, the more people I hear people not liking her makes me like her even more. Plus, PJ did make some unkind changes and that reflected poorly on her. Like her "lust" after Aragorn - I mean, yeah she liked him, we all did - but I don't think that was the only reason she went to war - I wonder how those scenes are going to play in the EE...

[Hope of the Evenstar]

I didn't get the idea that she went to war for Aragorn at all. Miranda Otto is very good at playing an angsty Sheildmaiden who wants to prove herself.

*Bows head to Rhianon* I think I like her better than I did at first. I appreciate and respect Eowyn, and you have every right to like her. I really pity her, which helps me feel less harsh ot her. That, and the fact that I have a knack *cough, obsession, cough* for psychology, I understand her. But now I must take my leave, to visit my Dragons. Namarie!

[Charmander]

Just to bring this thread back to the forefront - who loved some of those extra Eowyn scenes! There were quite a few and I think it helped the case of the shieldmaiden! I didn't really care for Eowyn's Dream that much - but the Pelennor fields one was amazing!

[Rhianon]

:( I can't wait,I can't wait! I am going to go to Blockbuster on Friday and rent ROTK. At least I will be able to watch it until I get my own copy.

[Charmander]

I think that's the way to go! I'm going to great lenghts too! We're spending Christmas with my cousins in Florida and celebrating a birthday - I'm thinking the birthday gift should be the three EE's! So then I'll have copies at home and at their house!!

[Eowyn of Rohan]

Knock knock..hey girls can I come in?
I can't understand why I didn't notice this thread before! It's just what I needed! A place to discuss about the gorgeous Shieldmaiden!!
Can't wait to see her in the EE!

[Charmander]

Please, please join us! I need more people to talk to about Eowyn/Miranda! There's a thread in the 'General Cast Chat' wishing our beloved shieldmaiden a Happy Birthday - which was yesterday! Have you seen the EE yet?

[Eowyn of Rohan]

Thanks for the sweet welcome Charm! I've seen the birthday Thread yesterday and immedialety signed it! Hope she had a great day! ^_^
I've read a few pages of this thread and wow...why are they attacking eowyn like this? IS not like I've ever written such mean thing on Arwen..
Women's jelousy shouldn't arise only for guys issues? :P

[Charmander]

A lot of it had to do with the fact that we were all upset that they had cut the HoH out of the theartrical - I mean, you get to see Sam and Rosie kiss and we don't get an ounce of face time for E/F! So there was some commentary against our beloved shieldmaiden - but I think we've scared them off! Besides - the EE doesn't have any extra Arwen scenes so now they know what it's like lol! I'm just kidding - it is unfortunate there weren't more scenes overall! I guess some of the commentary was against the way E/A turned out - that whole storyline is a sore subject for all of us - but it's all better now - sooner for you when you check out the EE!

[Eowyn of Rohan]

Well wasn't that clear that this was an Eowyn fan created thread? What did they come here for? Searching for a fight? just kidding of course!
but hey you know I got a green Eowyn like gown..maybe I'll post a pic of it sometimes!

[Charmander]

That's awesome! I would love to see! Is that the first time we see her in the movie - I mean, like that? That dress is great - all her dresses are great - though I really love the starry mantle - hence it's in my ava lol! They did such a great job recreating it - but I wish we had seen him put it on her - no, wait that didn't happen in the books...he saw her in it...I need to read that chapter some more :)

Yeah - I'm not sure why they wanted to come in here - I post in the A/A thread - but I like A/A, just not as much as I like E/F. I guess if there were any anti-Eowyn thread I'd be ranting against everyone too - to each her own, I guess...

[Eowyn of Rohan]

I bought it at my city's fair from a lady coming from Berlin, it's in medioeval style with laces at the hips level (like the refugee gown). it has long sleeves and it's made in velvet. unfortunately it's not REALLY like the green gown, but it's a fair copy!
I think that the green gown would be uncredibily expensive!
If you could have one of her gowns which would be??

[Rhianon]

I have mentioned before that I have a Livejournal. I was just recently surfing their interests page. I happened to find a slash community devoted to a pairing between Arwen and Eowyn. I haven't read any of the fan fictions on there. I did however join it out of curiosity. I am not really into that type of fan fiction. Has anyone read any type of slash? :blush: :huh:

[Aletheia]

Hello ppl! :) i have also heard of fan fics devoted to E....r they any good & where r they if they r good??Also, does anyone knok about a really good costume sight for Eowyn's dresses? I have found a few but most are more into Arwen's stuff............Ohhhhhh, the green dress, Eof Rohan??? That one is sooooo pretty *leia gushes over pretty dress* I would love to see a pic of it if you would let me see?*leia looks hopeful* :)

[Eowyn of Rohan]

I've got to say that I don't generally read fan-fictions..but I know there's a lot of slash stuff around..I don't like it tho.
As for the dress, I think I'll make a fair pic during the Christmas holidays and I'll post it right after Leia! ;)

[Charmander]

I have to admit I've stayed away from the fanfic too - there's so much to read from Tolkien that I haven't quite felt the need, yet lol

Eowyn of Rohan - I think I'd want the starry mantle more than anything else - as an E/F fan it symbolises so much :)

[Aletheia]

ohhhh i agree Char!!!!! I was so sorry they didnt show him giving it to her in the movie....... :(

I was going through some fan fic last nite but i couldnt really find what i was hoping for......oh well. maybe that is a sort of severe mercy, since that way there is nothing to mar the beauty of the original story

cant wait to c the dress, EoR, is it the green velvet one she first wears, you said????(i have a couple of medival dresses, but no lotr ones-lucky u! :) )

~Leia :rose: ~

[Eowyn of Rohan]

Well Leia..just not to have you too disappointed when you'll see the dress..it's not a copy of the gorgeous first gown Eowyn had in TT..I'd better say it's a mix between it and the refugee one...but you'll see it, don't worry!! ;)

As for the mantle..awww...I know what you mean Charm! it's so romantic! :blush:

[Charmander]

I mean - if we weren't going to see the kiss we should have at least seen that! Aw - starry mantle :loveyou: makes me swoon! Faramir is such a sweetheart in those scenes :loveyou:

[Aletheia]

sounds pretty, eowyn!!! r u wearing it to an event or madrigals or something?

Starry Mantel......i luv that part very much in the bks!!!!! so sorry it didnt make it in....glad that they included it as a costume, though! i cant seem to find much more than a head shot as far as pics go for it.........wish they would release a full shot of it or 2....I would lik to c all of it :)
I luv E's clothes....i found a very good costume sight dedicated to lotr clothes alone:
www.alleycatscratch.com/lotr/
hope that worked....... ;)
I want a lotr dress soooooo bad!!!! & (dont make fun of me) i want the arwen coronation barbie.....hehehe....im such a chick!!& i luv it lol

~Leia :rose: ~

[Eowyn of Rohan]

I wish I had one of her costumes too, thet're so elegant royal and gorgeous!
I'm not wearing it at parties..Since this year I'll go to Paris I won't dare to bring it with me..I don't want to spoil it! ;)
We should start a petition: " We know you have filmed E/F wedding scenes and a lot of backgroud situation about them, so why don't you make a single DVD for us poor E/F addicted? Sincerly, Eowyn of Rohan and the Obsessed E/F club!"
What do you think?! :grin: I want to see a KISS!!

[Aletheia]

Im totally joining that club!!!!! :grin:
*sighs* i luv E&F!!!!

I really want an Eowyn dress, & I would totally buy one (I am no good @ sewing) but, yeah, where the heck would I wear it???
Im out of high school so there r no fun madrigals for me to be in anymore, & between colleges, so I guess I would hafta wear it around the living room or something..... :p

Oh u r going to Paris??? VERY sweet!!!
My dream is to go to Oxford, some day....I would liv to c Paris though, too, but who wouldn't? :)

~Leia:rose:~

[Eowyn of Rohan]

Welcome to the club then!! :grin:
That's exactly the point Leia! In which occasion would I wear it? It would be such a shame to lock it into the wardrobe! :(
My dream is to be at the steps of Meduseld wearing the white gown and just look at the mountains!! Awww, I'm an desperate dreamer! :blush:
Yes I'll finally see Paris! I'm leaving this sunday and I'll be back on jan 2nd! unfortunately I won't have access at my pc untill jan 9...But I'll tell you everything!
Are you going somewhere?

[Aletheia]

I really wish there were more occasions to wear pretty dresses to......

Hope you have a great time in Paris!!!! I cant wait to hear about it!!!!! :)

Nope, I am not going anywhere anytime soon, unless it would be to bed, which would be a good idea ;) but i am in-between colleges @ the moment, & i am applying for a Honors program where I would get to spend a few semesters studying in Eng @ Oxford (Tolkiens school :grin: )
i cant decide which school though.....

~Leia:rose:~

[Eowyn of Rohan]

I'm not a skirt girl generally, but I'd love to show a nice Eowyn like dress around for a change!!
Ahah I'd go back to bed too, but I think I'm never completely awake! :blush:
Wow you could go at Tolkien's school!! That would be exciting!! Which subjects are you keen to learn?

[Charmander]

You two are too funny! I think we should add that to our sigs - 'Obssesed E/F club'! I'm doing it! There's an A/A group too - Lady Arwen and Lady Galadriel are in it - or maybe 'Card-carrying member of E/F club' - we should probably decide on a name before adding it to our sigs lol!

That's a good point though - where would you wear it? I can't even think of any events that it would be appropriate to do that lol!

Paris - sounds nice Eowyn! My sister has been and says its nice. One of my cousins studied there for a year and loved it! Lethia - I've been to Oxford and it is pretty awesome! Of course - I love the UK - I wish I were there right now - excpet it would probably be colder than where I am now. I'm actually going to Florida for the holidays - so I probably won't be on-line for a few days - but ti's the season. Eowyn! I excpet a full report on Paris!!

[Rhianon]

I am planning to go to Paris some day.Especially after I graduate from college. I want to put my French to good use. My sister has a friend that she graduated from high school with that has been over in Europe for a couple of years. :grin:

[Aletheia]

Oppps! Already put it in my sig-just decide on a name though & I will change it to fit asap ;)

To answer your ? EoR, I am a (planned...between colleges so nothin till later)
English/Eng. Comm. major w/ an emphasis in pre-rennasance & medieval lit.
I want to be a writer...*sigh*....someday maybe......
Untill then the Eng Comm is the practiacal part that will get me a "real" job, as my friends & parents call it :p
Char u have been? :drool: Lucky, indeed!

If I get a lotr dress Im gonna just make up an event & wear it!!! lol

~Leia:rose:~

[Rhianon]

:grin: I would love to have Eowyn's dress from when she was at Dunharrow. That was such a cool dress. If I ever can find that dress, I would wear it to the Renaissance Festival next year.

[Charmander]

I saw it in your sig and was most amused lol! I wish we knew more Old English - I would have said we could go with something like that - or not make it complicated...I don't know - any ideas? 'Obssesed E/F club' is fairly descriptive ;) Or maybe we could put something about join the cause to lobby for more E/F scenes in the E/F thread - I don't think I'm speaking very clearly lol

I want all her dresses - but I don't have anywhere to wear them :( They have a reinassance festival near us...

[Aletheia]

Ohhhh, a renisance fest-now y didnt i think of that?? the Bristol ren faire is not to far away.....i need to trick a friend into dressing up too though or i will feel silly all by myself :p

hmmmm...something of a more creative name? I do have a dictionary of the languages of Tolkiens ME so maybe i will find something there.....any ideas??

~Leia:rose:~

[Eowyn of Rohan]

Ok girls great news! I got the EE yesterday! i saw the movie and I loved it (I already knew that) but the E/F scenes are REALLY short!! :(
I wish I hadn't seen the comic con trailer!! they put there all the Hoh scene..
and I totally miss the kiss..I knew we couldn't have it all but still I hoped for something more!
this afternoon I'll watch the simphony DVD, and tonight cameras in ME.
sorry tho because I'll leave tomorrow and I probably won't have the time to add my review (I'll try anyway ;) ), so I wish to the whole E/F obsessed club a very merry Christmas and a Faramir new year!!! :faramir: :wave: :cuddles:

[Charmander]

Eowyn - have a safe trip! And a great holiday too!

I think we're all in agreement that there should have been more ;) I was thinking the same thing about the trailer - I should have never watched any of them - it set my expectations waaaaay too high :(

[Eowyn of Rohan]

Thank you Charmander!
I leave you in charge as temporary head of E/F obsessed fan club!! :grin:

[Charmander]

I don't know that I can handle all the responsibility, but I'll do my best!!

[Aletheia]

Merry Christmas Eowyn of Rohan & have a lovely trip!!!!
Merry Christmas to Char & all other lovers of E&F!!!!!!

~Leia:rose:~

[Charmander]

Hope everyone had a safe and Happy Holiday!!

I finally saw 'Flight of the Phoenix' and our beloved Miranda was great! And the movie was excellent!! I will give a more full spoiler in the movie section since I think that might make more sense - plus then more people will be forced to hear from us Eowyn fans lol!

[Aletheia]

LOL lol good thinking, Char!!

~Leia:rose:~

[Rhianon]

:grin: I had a very good Christmas.The only bad thing that happened was that I didn't get the ROTK EE gift set. :( Other than that it was a good holiday. One thing I have to say is that my nephew is truly adorable.

[Charmander]

:thumbs: for the new nephew! Sorry you didn't get the gift set - but absence makes the heart grow fonder, right?

[Rhianon]

Thats true :grin:. He is truly too cute for words. I may have to use a picture of him to make a LJ icon with Faramir and Eowyn. Since we got to see Eldarion, I am going to have him be Elboron.

[Aletheia]

Wait...is Elboron their son??? :grin: I havent made it throuhg HoME yet so forgive my unlearnedness :blush:

I did flip through "the war of the ring" book though, & did u guys know Tolkien originally wrote Eowyn to die!!!!! (u prob knew this, i just had to get that out since i just found out... lol )So glad he changed his mind!! :grin: I luv Eowyn!!& what would Far do w/out his lady-love? lol

~Leia:rose:~

[Rhianon]

:( That would have been a very depressing thing if Tolkien had killed Eowyn off. mecry I really couldn't see our dear :faramir: with another woman. I was almost tempted to write a fan fiction about who Faramir would have married if Eowyn would have been killled off. Thankfully, I changed my mind.

[Aletheia]

I know, they are perfect for each other...but Tolkien figured that out ;)

Actually, I have been seriously considering starting a fan-fic about our dear Prince & Princess of Ithilien......by going of the info we have from the books & attempting to keep it as tru to the original style & all.......haven't decided if I am up for the challenge yet though :grin:

~Leia:rose:~

[Charmander]

I've heard, maybe on this thread or the Faramir one - that Professor Tolkien stumbled onto Faramir - I think I have to read his letters to get the full story. I try not to even think about LotR without both of them - there'd be little reason to enjoy it!

[Rhianon]

:grin: I once felt that I couldn't write a fan fiction. I have written two so far and they are both works in progress. One is called THE LADY AND THE STEWARD and the other is A FINE AND PRIVATE PLACE. They are both romances,though the later is more adult in tone. I have been able to post them on Livejournal.com. :cool:

[Aletheia]

Oh! :) I would like to read them!I will check that out, thanx!

Yeah, I read that too somewhere, Char.....maybe in some commentarie in HoME or somethin.....
I luv our dear Far & Wyn though so I cannot imagine LotR w/ out them :blush:

~Leia:rose:~

[Charmander]

I don't think we should even try :nono:! LotR without those two would be totally incomplete! Plus, who would have killed the Witchking? Well, I feel like I also heard that there was some talk about killing Eowyn on the battlefield - I am so glad that made it to the cutting room floor!!

[Rhianon]

:angry: Kill off Eowyn in the movie!That would have been very unforgivable!I found the scene where Eomer finds her on the battlefield very touching.It made me want to cry. mecry

[Charmander]

That scene was sad - but I almost felt like it was a little overplayed - I mean, I knew they were close and all, but all the other scenes where they were together were so underplayed that this one almost seemed out of place. What really got me was the look on Eomer's face in the HoH! So much concern for Eowyn - that was a very sweet :eomer:!

[Aletheia]

That scene was sweet beyond words! It always makes me think of one of my friends & her brother b/c they are very much that close....
I wish there had been more scenes w/ the two of them, now that i think of it!
they had a really cool bro/sis relationship....I want a big bro like Eomer!

Oh, you are right Char!( about there being talk of killing poor Eowyn off in the movie)
I heard that mentioned somewhere on the EE & I was about ready to send New Line some very nasty letters!

~Leia:rose:~

[Charmander]

You know what though, their relationship isn't that prominent in the book though - I mean, Eomer is really upset when he finds her on the fields and then not with Theoden - but we never really got that interaction - did Professor Tolkien have any siblings?

[Nereid]

Eomer and Theoden isn't relatives...
Personly i would have react more to see my brother or sister dead/dying, like Eomer.
And Eomer is the older one, i guess.. :huh:

That was confusing, right? lol

[Charmander]

I meant she wasn't with Theoden - in the funeral pyre when they return from Pelennor fields - sorry - now that I read it again I am a little confusing lol

It was probably a hard scene to emulate - for Karl Urban, I mean, an actor draws from their own experiences and to try to find a piece of you for that can't possibly be easy - that was really random lol

[Nereid]

hehe, now that i read it myself, i'm confused too! lol
But If Eomer is her big brother he probaly feel like he has failed her mayby... wild guess :)
I should quit this roflmao

[Charmander]

Don't quit! Then I'll be talking to myself lol! Well, if you look at the scene before that, when Eomer is like, war is men's work - he's telling her not to get any bad ideas - I think he knew that she had done this before - dressed up as a man. I can't even begin to imagine what he was thinking. In the book he wwas forced to fight through all the forces of Mordor to find Aragorn - he was at least able to get himself together for that.

[Nereid]

Well, it's hard do figure out what Eomer is thinking when he finds her dying.
Can be many things... it might be blaming him self cause he didn't stop her if he now knew that she could do things like that...
Mayby he's just sad about finding here dying... mecry

Hmm, this subject should mayby be moved to Eomers thread lol

[Charmander]

lol you're right, we could be talking in circles for hours about this lol

I thought the scene was well played :thumbs:

[Nereid]

yeah, i think that to.. he looked really upset and that kind of emotion is hard to act... personly i would have started to laugh trying to act serieus or sad... i can't do that lol

Great actor :hooray:

Hm, i always say personly roflmao

[Rhianon]

:read: I think that you are confusing the death of Theoden with the death of Denethor. Denethor was the one who tried to burn Faramir alive and died in the funeral pyre and Theoden died in the Battle of the Pelennor Fields.Eomer found Eowyn near their uncle and he assumed that she was dead. I hope that this clears everything up. :grin:

[Eowyn of Rohan]

Hi girls, I'm finally back! Congrats to Charmader, you kept the level of the thread preatty high! :cool:
I agree with you regarding the Eomer over-acting issue, not that I didn't like the scene, but I still have to find out how could he spot her in the middle of the battle field!! ;) then just two words... TOO SHORT!!! the HoH are not slightly as long as I hoped! (and I didn't have great expectations!!)
But hey, we can ask for an extra DVD on E/F!! :blush:
It was just me or any of you has heard on the ROTK EE extra DVD that they burnt the parts of the movie which are not in the EE?? :o

[Rhianon]

:grin: That would be a good idea! They really should release a DVD of deleted scenes that didn't make the cut.

[Charmander]

No, I heard that too - about the burning - so I'm not sure what we can do now? I guess we could try to kidnap both Miranda and David - but that might get a little wierd :huh: lol

[Aletheia]

Ah, the shortness factor, I am still sad about that... :( I really had high hopes for those scenes!:mecry:still!!

To answer a previous ?:Tolkien had one brother, i think, but i do not know how long that sibling lived...

[Eowyn of Rohan]

No, I heard that too - about the burning - so I'm not sure what we can do now? I guess we could try to kidnap both Miranda and David - but that might get a little wierd :huh: lol

lol that would be a good start!! I was just wondering...where did they put their'r wedding scene?? on Emyn Arnen.net there was a report of someone witnessing that scene!!! I want it!

[Charmander]

Didn't one of them confirm it in an interview? I feel like I've read somewhere that Miranda or David said that it was filmed - don't we have any insiders who are E/F fans?

[Eowyn of Rohan]

I don't know if there have been any official confirmation, I only read it on the web..I was really hoping that Philippa Boyens would have pressured to put the wedding in... :(

[Charmander]

Of all the people involved I was counting on her! PJ was always the :battle: type - but Fran and Phillipa should have insisted on all the wedding scenes!

[Nereid]

There is already a weeding in ROTK... mayby they thought two was too much... :(

[Aletheia]

Oh, a wedding would have been nice......

[Eowyn of Rohan]

Fran was the one following Arwen/Elrond/Aragorn's line, Peter as Charm said was all for the battles and Philippa wanted to bring back to life Boromir (O_O) so I hoped the she would have done everithing in her power to put E/F wedding at least in the EE... :(
So sad she didn't make it!

[Charmander]

I guess PJ just didn't see it's importance in the big picture :( To be fair, the A/A story is the more important of the two - but some equal representation might have been nice - we can dream :)

In other somewhat related news Tom Cruise was at an awards show recently and was hyping War of the Worlds - which is directed by Spielberg, but also stars our favourite sheildmaiden ;)

[Rhianon]

:grin: Amen to that sister!

[Eowyn of Rohan]

I guess PJ just didn't see it's importance in the big picture :( To be fair, the A/A story is the more important of the two - but some equal representation might have been nice - we can dream :)

In other somewhat related news Tom Cruise was at an awards show recently and was hyping War of the Worlds - which is directed by Spielberg, but also stars our favourite sheildmaiden ;)
well PJ pretty much made up A/A story, don't want to start another discussion about this but that's the way it is! We would have deserved at least 10 minutes of E/F and what do we get? less than 2 minutes in which they barely talk to each other! well better stop now.. :p
Yay for Miranda and her finally rising career :hooray: :hooray: