Costume colors

[Estell]

Has anyone noticed that PJ had created "good" colors here?

White is a neutral color. Blank canvas sort of effect. Eowyn wears white when we first see her, before we know what she'd like. Galadriel wears white in the scene where she is both good ("I will diminish ... ") and evil ("YA! In place of a dark lord ... "):elfqueen:

Grey's a good color. Elves of Mirkwood and Lorien are usually seen in grey. Gandalf the Grey.

Green is a better color. Aragorn is wearing dark grey-green (if you look close). Eowyn wears a green dress. Most places ... Shire, Mirkwood, Rivendell ... are mostly green. I think Treebeard says something about Saruman destroying green things ... ?:huh:

Any comments?

[Hobbit]

I agree with you that most colors in the movie had somekinda meaning.
FotR is mostly green with the Shire, the greenwoods of Lothlorien and Amon Hen etc. Even some scenes in Moria had a bit of a green touch. I think the green shows the good of the world a bit.
Then TTT is mostly grey with Helmsdeep, Isengard and Osgiliath showing that the world is changing ad that good and evil are fighting.
I think RotK will probably have a very dark look with Mordor, Shelob's lair and the Black gate yet in the end it will probably become more white when good has won.

When we're talking about the costumes (where this thread is all about) I agree with you. White is kind of an neatral color indeed like with Eowyn and Saruman at first and with Galadriel.
Yet this is a different, less pure kinda white, then Galadriel (at the scene when the fellowship leaves lorien) and Gandalf the White wear. They look really bright and there is no doubt they are the good guys.
Green is indeed a color which represents the good of Middle Earth (especially the nature) with as counterpart the grey lands and smoke of Isengard and Sarumans industry and of course the black lands of Mordor (I guess there is no doubt black is bad ;) )
But I think the reason the Rangers and elves wear lotsa green is just becouse they live in the wilds and the best color to cover yourself in the wilds is green. ;)

[Lady Ashley]

I hafta say that it really wasn't PJ that created the color-scheme, when it came to clothes. Tolkien did. Eowyn and Galadriel wore white. Rangers wore green and brown, and the Elves wore grey. Hobbit's right, the colors of the latter blend in with their surroundings. White seems to be a popular color among the women of Middle-Earth, for whatever reason it was...

But yes, PJ did create a great coloring thing for the landscapes to invoke a feeling for the scene.

[Winyaél Greenleaf]

Hey Estell! Wonderful observations there! Thanks for sharing your thoughts! :thumbs: They remind me of interpretations of shakespearan plays lol

Hmm... white also symbolizes purity and elegance, which is prolly why it is a popular colour among the ladies of ME.

[Saruman]

...and the white on Saruman's robes is sort of worn, slightly yellow, suggesting that he is no longer pure!

[Winyaél Greenleaf]

lol That's a nice one, Saruman! lol :thumbs:

[Hobbit]

Nice one, Saruman! :thumbs: lol
And your absolutely right m'Lady Ashley: the costumes were already discribed by Tolkien, in the books for most part, although the movie was slightly different sometimes.
And as for the white dresses of the ladies: isn't white a sort of special color. I mean white resembles something special: A weddingdress is white for exemple (at least most of the time). So the white of Eowyn and Galadriel might tell us they are very special ladies. (that there is more behind them then meets the eye ;) )

[Estell]

Yes, Hobbit, white for wedding dresses symbolizes purity, virginity. When my grandmother was married, she was already pregnant, and so her mother wouldn't let her have a long, white gown.

Eowyn is wearing white in the scene where Grima accosts her in Theodred's chamber. I don't remember what he wore, but I really don't think it was white ... probably a dark color. Maybe this was meant to contrast her innocence hearnoevil and his evil knowledge:flamer: (and we're off the subject of virginity here, so don't get all huffy with me).:elfeek:

Sorry to correct you, but I thought the rangers wore grey when we see them as a group ... maybe it's kind of a uniform for times they're NOT hiding in a corner smoking.

[Saruman]

That's a good point, but I don't actually consider Grima to be evil. He is certainly not noble, but he's not evil like Sauron or Saruman. He simply loved Eowyn, and was willing to do anything to win her love, and made a sort of 'bargain' with Saruman. He's a very tragic character.

[Estell]

I'm sorry, but that made me laugh.lol Sorry.

Being servant to evil makes you evil, is my opinion. Eowyn was supposed to be his reward for serving Saruman.

[Hobbit]

Hmm, I have to agree with Saruman here: sure doing evil, makes evil, but Grima is not evil in the same way as Saruman and Sauron, and he wouldn't have bargained with Saruman if Eowyn didn't hated him.
But as interesting as this discussion is, this is the wrong thread to discuss it. The character of Grima can better be discussed at the Lord of the Rings forum at the library. ;)

Say, about the ranger gear, they are normally green and brown. In the books it was said that Aragorn was wearing a dark green cloth when Frodo first laid eyes on him. So I guess the normal ranger garb was supposed to be green and brown.
But when the rangers come to Aragorn's aid just before the battle of the Pellenor fields they wore grey (it was even called the grey company)
So I think you're right about Rangers in groups Estell :thumbs:
And maybe that's the reason why Aragorn's moviecostume was quite grey.