LotR Weapons and Warfare Book

[Silvorn]

I don't know about the rest of you, but I'm quite excited for the November 5th release of the LotR Weapons and Warfare book. I'm assuming it will be a trove of knowledge concerning the creation, construction, design methods and completion of many of the swords. I'm also interested to see what else they incorporate into the book to discuss armour types, race specific weapon designs and tactics, and a whole bunch of other interesting tidbits we'll all relish.

What are you thoughts, or expectations on what this book will offer us?

[TrueSwordsman]

This may be off the book a bit, but I heard that the Elven armor worn in the prologue of FotR was very hard to move in. Do you think they will talk about look over function? I mean, even if it is a movie who would design armor that you could not move in (even if it does look cool)?

:legolas:

[Orc]

Here's what Amazon.com has on it:

Lord of the Rings: Weapons and Warfare (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0618390995/qid=1067550927/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/103-1611915-1779849?v=glance&s=books#product-details)

for your amusement, check out the paperback price under the picture. Amazon states a list price of 10.95 but they are selling it for $13.27....

Not much detail on the contents though. I'll probably thumb through it as soon as I see it on the shelf somewhere.

[Nilion Elentano]

:whoohoo: YAY I got it! it's fab folks, :naughty: pretty much to delight yourselves in the photos that had never been seen (like Isildur's sword) and armour that we are expecting to see (The Mouth of Sauron)

But for technical reference is not particularly enlightening, tho I must say it is a must have:thumbs: :grin:

[Silvorn]

Some pretty interesting stuff on the Official Site. Here's the link to the specific page http://www.lordoftherings.net/legend/weapons/

The introduction discusses the extracting of ores and the process of forging the blade. So for those of us allready educated in this procedure, then you can just skip on to the next few pages which deal directly with Middle Earth.

[Mithrandir]

OK...no offense but,
>>> Isildur's sword<<<Is not really his sword. Is Elendil's sword, when he died he used it against Sauron...Am I right?

After that the Narsil was just shars, then Anduril, Flame of the West, forged by the elves in Rivendell using the shards of Narsil is the sword of the King of Gondor.

Please correct me if im wrong;)

[Cuiel Rilwen]

I bought this book while in Scotland,(not published in Norway when I left!) It's so incredibly beautiful and informative! I love how it's divided into chapters of races, their weapons, armours; places, battles; all the background info on each race,character and location, maps and ofcourse the wonderful piccies!

It's clearly my most treasured book from the films! Also it is a powerful reference to anyone who, like me, went to the LotR-exhibit and was disapointed that there were no leaflet/brochure to take home, to help you remember all the maginificent stuff!

[IronHills Dwarf]

Quite a good book. A few things disipointed. (No more than sketch for Haldir's sword) But much of the information and maps gave me a better understanding of the clutures they were creating. The Lorien elves for instance. In some cases the sudo-historical flavor it is written in is rather fakey but on the whole this is certainly the best book to come out of the films.

[Eomund]

Originally posted by Mithrandir
OK...no offense but,
>>> Isildur's sword<<<Is not really his sword. Is Elendil's sword, when he died he used it against Sauron...Am I right?

After that the Narsil was just shars, then Anduril, Flame of the West, forged by the elves in Rivendell using the shards of Narsil is the sword of the King of Gondor.

Please correct me if im wrong;)

But Isildur have to had his own sword also?

[Mithrandir]

Hmm kind of, well, its really the sword of the king of Gondor so when Elendil died Isildur became the king automatically(inheritance stuff) so it belonged to him :) :p

My friend bought it and it looks awesome

[Eomund]

How much did it cost.

[Pil]

Im not actually sure, sorry Eomund. I got it as an xmas pressie and it is being lent to a friend at the moment so i cant check the back. :read:

I absolutely love this book, its simply marvellous. It's not too technical so that people like me :p who have little knowledge of the names of all the parts in armour would be turned away or put off. There's even a glossary with all the names used explained. I really recommend this to every lotr fan, especially those interested in the design of middle earth.

I agree Cuiel, the book seems to go well with the feel of the lotr exhibition. I first saw the exhibition in Wellington, NZ, but i saw it in London a few weeks back after reading the book and i must say that i appreciated the work of the costumes and armour that i saw even more than i did the first time i went. :thumbs: :knight:

[Eomund]

Nothing bad. I guess it is pretty cool book.

[Mithrandir]

$20 paper back and like $30 hard cover
This prices are from Barnes & Noble (If you live in the US)

NOTE: Although the paper back has really good paper and the back is not bad at all

[Eomund]

But dont you guys no prices somewhere in Europe, in GB or Gemany or Finland or Spain.

[Pil]

Ive got it back today from my friend, ill just run upstairs and check the price :p

*comes back panting* here u go...in the U.K. for a paperback it is £12.99 I think my Mam bought it in Ottakars if that is any help :p

[Eomund]

No it isnt. But £12.99. Does somebody know the price in EUROS?

[Pil]

Well i dont know if it would be sold for a higher or lower value on the continent...but this website would allow you to convert £12.99 into Euros. :p

[Eomund]

Danke,
does somebody know if it is published in Germany or in North Europe.

[Pil]

I should imagine so...i mean....most countries have been hit by the rings phenomenon :p

[Eomund]

aaaw yes, have you read the hole book through?
The Gil-Galad page is cool. The spear the most.

[Pil]

Oh u have it now?! It's great isnt it? :grin:

I agree....anything which talks about the elven armour fascinates me :)

[Eomund]

Now, i dont have it now but i think i saw in in some shop or somewhere.

[Pil]

Ahh right.....so u reckon you will be buying it soon? :p

[Eomund]

i hope when i reckon in what store it was.

[Mithrandir]

lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol

[Eomund]

ye,ye and what did that mean'?

[Valandil Astaldo]

Originally posted by Mithrandir
OK...no offense but,
>>> Isildur's sword<<<Is not really his sword. Is Elendil's sword, when he died he used it against Sauron...Am I right?

After that the Narsil was just shars, then Anduril, Flame of the West, forged by the elves in Rivendell using the shards of Narsil is the sword of the King of Gondor.

Please correct me if im wrong;)

Actually you are kinda wrong, but not too much. Obviously Isildur have his own sword (books and movie). When Elendil died the shards of Narsil pass to Isildur and then it pass as a heirloom to every one that follows in his blood line.

Now, i think that previously they were refering to the sword used by Isildur on the movies, That sword can be seem on the TFOR extended dvd's art gallery. The sword of Isildur is pretty much like Narsil, but the hilt is golden and to me it appears that this sword is one-handed and kinda short in comparison with Narsil. The name of the Isildur's sword is unknown to me.

-Valandil

[Eomund]

Maybe it didnt have a name.

[Mithrandir]

Yeah I see
anyways, guys! I got it!!! yes, my friend bought it for me is awesome! I love it, it has lots of information, from the scription on the Narsil to the Easterling's armory, I love it!

[Eomund]

So can you tell me Elronds equipment... ive been looking for it...

[Valandil Astaldo]

This is the Isildur's sword on the movies...

http://www.geocities.com/valandil_astaldo/lotr_dvd_1_isildur09.txt

[Eomund]

welcome Valandil to this forum and thread...

Where did you get that? ...

[Mithrandir]

What do you want to know about Elrond's equipment

[Eomund]

What was the name of his sword if he had one, what weapons did he use, what kind of armor had he?

[Mithrandir]

Here we go
Elrond's sword name is Hadhafang he carried in the Last Alliance and was handed down to him by his father Earendil

His armor, was pretty much alike Gil-Galad's armor and was in high rank shaped (like more detailed etc.)

[Eomund]

Cool, so Elrond was better armoured than Gil-Galad! I knew that his sword began with a H but I didnt know on! Thank you, Mithrandir!!!!

[Mithrandir]

Not a problem man, anything you need tell me, but you should really consider getting that book ;)

[Eomund]

I dont have money now but when i get i shall have the book!!!!

[Mithrandir]

Yea, is not that expensive, is only like 20 bucks, and I got it for free :p my friend bought it as a gift ;) :) :p

[Eomund]

Still it is about 300 krones here but i have only 10!!!!! mecry mecry

Anyway was there a sword for Gil-Galad..

[Pil]

Erm.....im not sure if he had a sword....he's known for his awesome spear isn't he??? :p

[Eomund]

Yes, and other question. Did elvish archers(Those in the FoTR prologue) have also another weapon besides their bows???

[Elfdaughter]

Yes. Swords, spears, polearms - more like glaives - and they used their sheilds as an offensive weapon.

[Eomund]

And do YOU also have the book???

[Elfdaughter]

Yip! lol

[Eomund]

when did you get it????

[Elfdaughter]

About..... a month, I think?

[Eomund]

how much did you pay for it...

[Elfdaughter]

99p! lol I got it as part of a book club deal - along with the visual companion for ROTK. (also 99p)

[Eomund]

lucky you.....i should pay over 400 EEK....about £16.....

[Elfdaughter]

Yeah, it's £20 full price.

[Aragorn's Hope]

I read it and it's pretty good. I like where they have the pics of the weapons and armor,etc. I recommend this book to anyone who has not read it yet. :)