View Full Version : Should there be a hobbit film
Morgothian
December 13th,2003, 09:16 AM
Should there be a hobbit film I think there should for sure. Hopfully PJ will do it after King Kong.
Radagast
December 13th,2003, 04:47 PM
Yes.. definetly
Cuiel Rilwen
December 13th,2003, 07:50 PM
But ofcourse!:cool:
Miriel Baggins
December 13th,2003, 10:32 PM
YES! Only if Pete does it, though. I mean, it would be really dumb if someone else tried to; they'd have completely different stuff - a different sort of look for the dwarves and a different Rivendell, etc. That would be . . . bad. :)
Alcarohtar
December 13th,2003, 11:39 PM
You're absolutely right, Miriel. PJ is the man for that movie.
Harlow
December 14th,2003, 12:51 AM
as long as PJ's calling the shots, then it will be brilliant
Lady Melody
December 14th,2003, 05:29 AM
But of course, and with Peter holding the reins of the movie.
Gil Galad
December 15th,2003, 03:50 PM
i think there shud be a Hobbit movie but i dont see the need for PJ to direct it, after all he didnt get everything rite in the LotR films so maybe someone else could improve on his vision of ME
Diamond of Long Cleeve
December 15th,2003, 04:17 PM
i've wondered about this for ages. and i agree that pete should make it, and that it should be made.
Adunauriel
December 15th,2003, 11:45 PM
I think it's an absolutely brilliant idea.. It would be wonderful, and I'd so have to see it...;)
Fëalossë
December 16th,2003, 12:49 AM
*feeling very alone saying no...*lol
I don't think that anyone should make this book into a movie. It's too long of a story, which of course means that they'll cut out most of it (as in the Lord of the Rings). It would probably be kind of boring if they stuck to the story line anyways, for movie standards, unless the director makes it a lot scarier or action-filled than Tolkien meant it to be. Then it would cease to be his story.
Course, I didn't think they should've made the Lord of the Rings into a movie, either.
However, if there is one, PJ should direct it. I think it would be retarded to have two completely different versions of Middle-Earth released in movies based on books that are so close, within such a close time frame, etc.
:trout:
Faramir
December 16th,2003, 07:43 AM
Actually, The Hobbit is much shorter than each of the books in The Lord of the Rings.
Aragorn
December 16th,2003, 03:22 PM
I voted no on this only because this was written as a children's story and it does not have the same depth of character or story that LOTR does. I have no doubt that PJ would do a great job with it, but there is far less in this story to work with than in the trilogy.
Miriel Baggins
December 16th,2003, 06:33 PM
Actually, Fëalossë, I think I agree with you. That's a good point. The Hobbit does seem a bit, well, boring as a movie. That is, if they were to stick to the story (which of course, we would hope they would). I guess I just feel that, if it's possible to make this into a movie (an interesting one, I mean), I hope that they do and that Pete is the one at the helm.
Fëalossë
December 23rd,2003, 07:24 AM
Originally posted by Faramir
Actually, The Hobbit is much shorter than each of the books in The Lord of the Rings.
Sure, but they lopped off half of the story and still made them three hours or more each.
Sindarin
December 28th,2003, 06:15 PM
Sure, a movie version of "The Hobbit" is a good idea, especially after the LotR trilogy - a type of cinematic prologue.
It was the first Tolkien book I read, and to see it on film would be brilliant.
Astaroth
January 3rd,2004, 07:26 AM
making a film from a book is always complicated. a lot of things have to chage in order to make a good movie. PJ and all the LORT crew did a great job, and I think they are the ones that should make it. Why? cuz i think most people accepts the job he's done, other director may change things from PJ vison and that would result unfamilair for LORT trilogy
HobbitFriend
January 8th,2004, 12:12 AM
Originally posted by Sindarin
It was the first Tolkien book I read, and to see it on film would be brilliant. Same here! and I would most definately love to see The Hobbit onscreen! :whoohoo: I really hope PJ and New Line can get the rights!!!
Cuiel Rilwen
January 8th,2004, 09:00 AM
Tolkiens great grandson,(I think it was), supports PJ adapting The Hobbit into a movie...other choices are impossible...why would anyone else do it when PJ has all the stuff and all the experience?
And I don't think it would be boring...supposedly PJ would take out most of the stuff about hobbits as a race, Bilbo's ponderings over this and that....and make the energetic parts stand out....I'm confident it would be good. Not such an epic film as LotR, but then the Hobbit isn't that as a book anyway.
I find that I like the book better now, when I've got all of ME rooted in me. So the real challenge for PJ will be to make it a movie worth watching separatly from LotR. And I think he can!
Ecthelion
January 10th,2004, 01:42 AM
It would definitly be interesting because the Hobbit is much more fairy-taleish. PJ might ruin it with gore.
Amithrellas
January 11th,2004, 02:26 AM
I think, besides the fans, the actors involved with LotR would be anxious to get back to ME -- whatever PJ might do to it lol
The Stone of Erech
January 12th,2004, 03:24 AM
If the two studios can agree on the rights then surely Peter Jackson and Co will definetely make The Hobbit into a prequel....the book is a childrens book, but if Peter kept the same actors and ME designs then sure he would make the film darker in tone, but essentially the story would be more light-hearted than LOTR and therefore be for both children and adults.
Its just got to be made, and made by Pete.
Ecthelion
January 13th,2004, 12:26 AM
I agree with you Erech and even if it is darker it will be worth it just to see The Hobbit on big screen.
Bregalad
January 13th,2004, 10:55 AM
I'd definitely love to see The Hobbit as a movie; especially if Peter Jackson is directing it. I believe that if PJ directs it, he might focus a little more on the story that was only referred to in the book (about the restoration of Sauron's power and the White Council), so as to maintain the darker mood of LotR. On the other hand, casting 13 dwarves is going to be a handful lol
Polly Sandybanks
January 13th,2004, 04:34 PM
YEs yes yes!! I would love to see The Hobbit made into a movie, and I would want the people who made the movie trilogy to make The Hobbit as well. It could definitely work. :)
lol Bregalad! It would indeed.
Calmacil
February 7th,2004, 12:48 AM
Yes! A film for the hobbit would be really cool. Even if it is a simpler book, they could do a lot with it. But, if they did do it, they should denfinatly keep as much of the original people as they can. I'd hate to see someone different play Gandalf or something like that.
Ecthelion
February 7th,2004, 03:13 PM
Yeah you're right but in some ways... It might almot be better if they were played by different people. Gandalf, Bilbo, and Elrond both play very different people in the Hobbit than in LOTR. It might almost be better if they had all new actors.
Calmacil
February 7th,2004, 11:44 PM
True, but it would get kinda confusing, wouldn't it? Having people walk in and try and figure out all the new stuff?
Miriel Baggins
February 10th,2004, 11:02 PM
Yeah, I think they should keep the same actors. Like Cal said, it would be confusing to have new people in the old roles. And I personally have perfect faith in these guys' acting abilities. They can play slightly different characters that are the same characters. (If that makes any sense. :p )
Ecthelion
February 13th,2004, 05:01 AM
I t might be kind of confusing. But I dont know.
Isiltári
March 3rd,2004, 11:29 AM
Personally, I'd love to see a Hobbit movie! I don't think it would be boring. It's not LotR, but it's still a good story. If I can put up with Bilbo's whining for 2 hours! No offense to Bilbo fans...I just have always found him a bit whiny.
Lady Luthien
March 4th,2004, 03:37 AM
Originally posted by Fëalossë
Course, I didn't think they should've made the Lord of the Rings into a movie, either.
Why do you say that? I think it did a lot to promote Tolkien's books...now they're more popular than ever.
And even if changes have to be made to the Hobbit...that doesn't mean that as a movie it would be bad...and no one would claim that the Hobbit movie would be exactly the same as the book anyway. I guess what I'm trying to say is that I don't see what could be wrong with making a movie of Tolkien's books even if changes are made when they're not claiming to be identical to the text.
Miriel Baggins
March 6th,2004, 07:46 PM
Luthien, I think what Fealosse meant was that before he saw the LR movies - before they came out - he was of the opinion that they couldn't and shouldn't be made into movies. (Correct me if I'm wrong.) But now that he's seen them, he sees he was wrong. And he was saying that the same goes for The Hobbit: he doesn't think - now - that it would make a good movie, but, if it is made, it'll probably turn out great, just like LR.
And I agree with you, Luthien. As long as they stayed loyal to the vision and the spirit that comes across in the book, I think it'd be a great movie. :thumbs: I mean I wouldn't want them totally changing everything in the story and claiming that it was based on Tolkien --- that would be horrible. But certain changes are acceptable, imo.
(By the way, I love your sig. mecry )
Brego
March 6th,2004, 10:55 PM
The Hobbit shud definately be made into a film, sure why not if it's done by the same team it'll be in good company lol
Catz
March 9th,2004, 02:33 AM
i never particularly liked the Hobbit as a book................;) who knows i might like a movie more ;)
and its always good to see another vision or view on anything
you dont have to agree with it, but its good to have it there, and as has already been mentioned, the book is still there, no matter what
:catz:
HobbitFriend
March 12th,2004, 12:56 AM
aww... I loved The Hobbit! For me, it was a wonderful introduction to fantasy. Now i'm an addict :p
*goes back to reading Eragon, my latest fantasy novel* ;)
Vaneldwen
March 15th,2004, 02:56 PM
YES Definately! but only if PJ does it!
Ecthelion
March 25th,2004, 04:47 PM
Hmmm... Not necessarily. Others could do just as good of a job. By the way Vaneldwen, I LOVE your signature. :love: :love: Good verse.
HobbitFriend
April 14th,2004, 07:08 PM
I definately think Ian McKellen should come back as Gandalf
(and who knows, maybe there could be a quick cameo Orlando as Legolas -- he is the prince of Mirkwood after all -- and maybe even Liv as Arwen when they stop in Rivendell... just for people who have seen the LotR movies but haven't read any of the books to go "hey! They look familiar...")
but I think Ian Holm is too old (no offense) to play young Bilbo...
Elenwë
April 15th,2004, 01:50 AM
I think that as long they gather the same cast and the same director they should do it. Since I'm a LotR addict I need another movie and The Hobbit would be perfect.
Tary
April 27th,2004, 11:02 PM
YES FOR GODS SAKE YES THEY SHOULD!!!!!!!!!! However it would have to be the same people I don't want some other director coming in and and changing middle earth The Hobbit should have the same feel to it as LOTR except less dark. And Ian Meckellen has to play Gandalf! While I was very impressed with Ian Holm's preformance as Bilbo in the LOTR I don't know if he could handle the much more pyshical role Bilbo plays in The Hobbit.
Miriel Baggins
April 29th,2004, 07:51 PM
Yeah, I agree about Ian Holm, though I do wish there was some way he could be Bilbo. I mean, he was sooooo perfect in the role of Bilbo in LR, and I can't see anyone else as being able to do it like that. :(
And, HF, I definitely agree that Orli and Liv should each make a cameo. :thumbs:
Gryffonheart
May 14th,2004, 01:57 AM
I totally agree. Only Peter can make the Hobbit, no one else. They would ruin it for sure.
... I wonder if they would use Ian Holm again for Bilbo?
... If they do the hobbit, we get to see some people again: Bilbo, Gandalf, Gwaihir the Eagle, and we will meet Balin, Gimli's cousin:)
Elenwë
May 14th,2004, 10:31 PM
Off course they should keep the same characters, otherwise it would be a waste of time whatsoever. I'd love to see that movie, it would be so cool. I was thinking yesterday, what if they do a TV series of some chapters od the Simarillion... it's a crazy idea but just imagine it with the same production and everything... it could be the coolest thing ever.
Cuiel Rilwen
May 15th,2004, 08:59 AM
Hehehehehe...you're not the only one who's thought that would be cool!:-D
Elenwë
May 15th,2004, 05:48 PM
Indeed, there's images in my head already lol lol lol
Kalika Baggins
June 17th,2004, 10:05 PM
OF CORSE!!!!!!!! :rolleyes: :fanboy: :trout:
Naz
July 10th,2004, 01:37 AM
Well of course they should make a Hobbit movie! As long as it's better than the cartoon.. *Shakes head* Now THAT was terrible!
Kalika Baggins
July 10th,2004, 01:52 AM
I agree. That cartoon was stupid! pfbbt YUK!!!! I bet the Hobbit moive is going to be wonderful! :grin:
AndreI3000
July 10th,2004, 07:17 AM
I like the annimated, it shows how much we have progressed through movie making history. Besides that, when the dwarves sing its pretty funny!
Heart-of-a-Hobbit
July 25th,2004, 09:20 AM
I definately think PJ should make The Hobbit...who else could? I've got an idea about how he could start it.
[We see Bilbo sitting in his room in Rivendell looking back through his book. Frodo is sitting in the corner reading while Merry and Pippin play a game of chess in another corner and Sam packs. Bilbo sighs and Frodo looks up and asks him what is wrong. Biblo just smiles and gestures towards the book he holds in his hand.]
Bilbo: "Ah Frodo my lad. I was just thinking of my adventure I had so many years ago. If I had the choice to go on another one...I would do it in an instant. I have no regrets about that journey. Shall I tell it to you my lad one last time before you leave tomorrow?"
Frodo: "Yes...I should like it if you would, dear Uncle."
[Frodo closes his book and comes to sit at Bilbo's feet, just like he did as a child. Sam notices the beginnings of a story and so leaves his packing and comes to sit next to Frodo. Frodo nods for Bilbo to begin. Bilbo opens his book and begins to read with a small smile on his weatherd face.]
Bilbo: "There and Back Again; A Hobbits Tale by Bilbo Baggins...."
That's how it starts. Then while he's reading, Merry, Pippin, and Gandalf (who happened by in the nick of time) join them for the reading. Then The Hobbit actually begins and we get to journey through Middle Earth again.
When The Hobbit ends, we see Frodo in Bag End reading the end of the book. Frodo sighs and smiles as he stands and glances out the window. He looks back at the book then he heads to the study, sits down, opens the book, takes his pen, and begins to write where Bilbo left off.
We know he writes LotR. That's just my idea of how PJ could start and end it.
White Lady of Rohan
August 3rd,2004, 01:00 AM
That's a very clever idea Heart-of-a-Hobbit. :grin: I love it.
Illuvatar
August 3rd,2004, 01:57 AM
*applauds* :hooray:
I second that motion! Very well done! :thumbs:
Heart-of-a-Hobbit
August 3rd,2004, 02:27 AM
THANK YOU!!!! Now if only I could get PJ to see it somehow... :hmppf: :grin:
Laurelin
August 3rd,2004, 06:55 PM
Very cleaver! Perhaps you could write a letter to ?? Hmm... heck I have no idea! lol
Lady Luthien
August 3rd,2004, 09:18 PM
Seriously...that's a great idea, HoaH...it ties all the stories together(the hobbit and the LoTR) in such a clever way! And it's very Tolkien-esque in it's style...going back to the old tales in books and beginning and ending with a narrator's point of view. You really should send it in lol
Heart-of-a-Hobbit
August 5th,2004, 03:55 PM
okay, but where will I send it?
Cassandria
August 6th,2004, 01:20 AM
I think it's great too Heart...your very talented! :)
I wonder if it would do any good to send it to the email address on the website www.lordoftherings.net? Isn't that New Line Cinema's official website for the movie? I emailed a comment to them once long ago and they sent me a thank you...but it may have been an automated answer.
Heart-of-a-Hobbit
August 6th,2004, 05:58 AM
I was thinking maybe I'd send it to http://www.thehobbitfilm.com/, www.newline.com, and now that you've suggested it, www.lordoftherings.net. But I'm going on vacation, so it will be awhile. If ya'll could find me some addresses and post them here or pm me, I'll write to them. Thanks so much for all your encouragment!!!
Galadriel Elf Queen
August 15th,2004, 09:44 AM
I wish there could be a film of the book The Hobbit done by all the same people, but since several years ago a cartoon film was made based on the book, it may not be possible.
PsychoShinji
August 25th,2004, 09:18 PM
I would love to see "The Hobbit" as PJ's film! He is brilliant with the seriousness and emotion in LOTR, but I also liked his ability to place humor. I think that with "The Hobbit", he's our man to make it fun and exciting. (Honestly, I am very much looking foward to seeing the whole Bilbo-finds-this-random-ring-huh-oh-well kind of thing...I'll bet it's going to be one of the recurring jokes because everyone watching will be screaming, "No, put it back! Put it back!!!") I can't wait, because it will probably (at least in the beginning) give us a good look at some of the lighter side of Middle-Earth. It will be priceless to see the banter between Bilbo and the Dwarves/Gandalf before the seriousness of LOTR even set in.
JemFinch
August 29th,2004, 03:36 AM
If Jackson did it, he would have to change the whole look and feel, I think. The hobbit is different than LOTR- he would have to make it more colorful looking. Dwarves would have to be changed- They have way too much makeup in LOTR, you don't even care about their emotions. Elves would have to be different, more like the ones in the BOOK, singing, "Tra La La Lalley, down in the valley..." Ian McKellen should stay as Gandalf, though. And Andy Serkis as Gollum.
If he could pull it off, it should be good. And I'd probably see it a dozen times no matter what, even if it wasn't the greatest. :)
ImDaMom
August 29th,2004, 10:50 PM
If PJ did do it, we'd have the best Hobbit possible. I don't think we saw dwarf emotions in LOTR because we only saw one dwarf, and his role was limited by JRR himself. We did see Gimli become friends with Leggy, and his reaction when Frodo destroyed the Ring, and then later in the HoH when Frodo awakes are priceless!
btw- Welcome, JemFinch. Can I hazard a guess that you also love one of my all time favorite books? The only book that competes with LOTR for shelf space in my house?
JemFinch
August 30th,2004, 01:42 AM
Yes, To Kill a Mockingbird is my 2nd favorite book. Hooray for the classics! :)
ImDaMom
August 30th,2004, 02:16 AM
Hooray and huzzah. I don't know where you are, but Turner Classic Movies, tonite at 10- To Kill a Mockingbird (all day, all Gregory Peck)
Back to topic...I would love to see a Hobbit film, but I'm not sure about the casting, other than Gandalf.
Arwen_Evenstar
August 31st,2004, 07:41 PM
The Hobbit does seem a bit, well, boring as a movie.
I agree with you too, i believe it should be made into a movie, but it would be boring compared to LOTR.
Jedi
September 6th,2004, 12:37 AM
Yes.
Is the short answer.
Same production team, same scriptwriters, same fx studio, same actors. Ian Holm is irreplaceable as Bilbo. No problem with his age, as he looks the same in Hobbit as Fellowship, and no problems in an action role, thats what those stunt fellows are for. While ago seen McKellen interviewed on tv, he said if PJ ever directed Hobbit, he would have every intention of playing Gandalf.
Not sure about that earlier idea of opening the film with Bilbo reading a story to assembled young Hobbits. Anyone seen Princess Bride? There it is. Been done. better to have some kind of prologue, maybe based on additional material in Unfinished Tales I think. As for the film/book being short, there is more than enough material for a good 3 and half hour film. Additional material can also be included from Unfinished Tales, adding more scope to the film work(by this time numbering 4) as a whole.
And here is the reason I think this film will be made. For all the great acting, wonderful dialogue, exellent score and fx and attention to detail of the trilogy, there was one thing they did not do. A Dragon.
What are all the creative minds of Weta gonna be doing after King Kong. They are gonna be hammering on PJ's door saying, boss, give us a go at this dragon. I think they will want to do this before anyone else. When have we had a good dragon in fantsay film. Never! Dragonheart was ridiculous, and I walked out of Reign of Fire! Best ever attempt was Jabberwocky( anyone else seen that!) So I think the lure of Smaug will tell in the end, (always been a fan of Smaug, who I now have tattooed on my back.)
All these fx workshops are pushing graphics to new limits. Thats why i hope we can look foward to some good sf and fantasy over next few years, now if only Lucas could find a decent scriptwriter.
JemFinch
September 6th,2004, 09:05 PM
I think the Hobbit will be done, especially if King Kong doesn't do well (which I see no reason for it to fail... Andy Serkis as King Kong? Howard Shore doing the music? It should be great...) The Hobbit would be the best think for PJ to do as a fallback plan to put him "back up there".
And I think you're right, Jedi, about the dragon. I also think that maybe the writers (Jackson, Boyens, Walsh) maybe somewhere in the back of their minds thinking about "How would we do this?" and "How would we do that?" The Hobbit may not be too far off.
Jedi
September 8th,2004, 08:54 PM
I would like a very dark and sinister Hobbit. Although it is essentially viewed as a childrens book, the Riddles in The Dark paragraph for me was one the tightest, dark and edgy pieces of writing I have ever read.
JemFinch
September 8th,2004, 11:55 PM
I agree: Riddles in the Dark is very scary. PJ could do that very well.
But I don't think the whole thing should be dark and sinister; what about when they see the elves for the first time? Or when Gandalf comes to see Bilbo?
But the parts where there is darkness should be really good. When Bilbo and the dwarves are traveling through Mirkwood is really great. It's so dark, and they're hungry, and there are spiders about.
It's all great! :) Can't wait. Hope he does it.
Arwen Evenstar
October 15th,2005, 09:22 AM
He's better make one!!!!!!!!!!!! I'd love to see a Silmarillion one as well.
Stormcrow
October 15th,2005, 10:44 AM
A Hobbit movie would be fantastic! Keep the LOTR movies alive! I would love to have more LOTR spin-off's. PJ would do a fabulous job on them as well! :grin: I would love to have a Hobbit movie, it would be fantastic!
Flame of Anor
October 15th,2005, 07:52 PM
No Hobbit movie - no FoA alive.
Now who dares (not) to do that? :grin:
Elfdaughter
October 15th,2005, 09:46 PM
Unquestionably, undoubatedly - YES!
Stormcrow
October 16th,2005, 05:17 AM
Preach, Elf Daughter! :grin:
Indefinitely and abundantly, a big YES! I am sitting on the edge of my seat constantly, hoping a Hobbit movie is made. lol
Elfdaughter
October 16th,2005, 05:19 AM
lol! I think I'd be preaching to the converted.... :p
Stormcrow
October 16th,2005, 05:39 AM
lol
Indeed you would! I am so hyped over all of this speculation! I just want them to hurry up and start filming it! lol
Eldarion8
October 17th,2005, 09:40 PM
Ya... they should make a 'The Hobbit' movie that's not animated. The animated one is dumb.
Stormcrow
October 18th,2005, 07:51 AM
I actually have not seen that movie, but I couldn't imagine it being 'gay'. I would imagine it would be quite alright, but I guess I will have to see it for myself.
Arwen Evenstar
October 31st,2005, 01:05 PM
One of my friend's got it, and she said it was really stupid.
Stormcrow
November 1st,2005, 08:14 AM
Hmm, guess it must be then. :-/
I still wanna see it, though.
Arwen Evenstar
November 1st,2005, 10:28 AM
I want to see it too, I've seen the cover of the video box on the Internet, but it did look a bit strange, them looking like cartoon characters. My friend said there were quite a lot of interesting changes, I know for sure that Legolas replaced Glorfindel, something I find even worse than Arwen replacing him (which I don't mind so much).
Stormcrow
November 1st,2005, 11:39 AM
Hmm, strange. I seen some pictures as well, the dwarves looked like children. I think the cartoon is supposed to be for little kids.
Arwen Evenstar
November 1st,2005, 12:26 PM
I don't think children who are too young can understand it completely and follow on. When I first watched the Fellowship of the Ring, it took twice for me to understand it totally.
Stormcrow
November 2nd,2005, 10:04 AM
Yeah, I think it is hard for people who have never read the books to understand all of the movie in one hit. :)
Arwen Evenstar
November 2nd,2005, 05:54 PM
That's what happened to me!
Stormcrow
November 2nd,2005, 11:06 PM
:grin:
A hobbit film will broaden the understanding of people who have not read the books a great deal of LOTR. It will provide all of the backstory.
Arwen Evenstar
November 3rd,2005, 05:36 PM
Especially with the finding of the ring. There was a bit of it in LOTR, in the prologue. When we see Bilbo and he says, "What's this? A ring!" If they make one, they might use that bit if they star Ian Holm. I think they should still use Ian Holm (only he has to look younger, which will be a problem) and Ian McKellen.
Stormcrow
November 5th,2005, 03:55 PM
Definitely stick with Ian McKellen. He is the perfect Gandalf. And perhaps even John Rhys Davies as a Dwarf? There are a lot of possibilities to consider. I think Ian Holm would be great to be brought back, but it would be a challenge (as you said, Arwen) to make him look younger.
Arwen Evenstar
November 6th,2005, 08:54 AM
Gloin the Dwarf appreared once in the movies, he was walking with Gimli, so maybe John Rhys Davies can be Gloin. We did see Ian Holm as a young hobbit when he found the ring, but PJ said he was going to wait for 4 years, which will be quite long!
Stormcrow
November 6th,2005, 11:15 AM
Yeah, we will need a new Bilbo I think...
John would be a great Gloin, just with different make-up. I also think they should stay far away from the coloured beards, I didn't really like that much. Blue and yellow beards? Nah...
Iradil
November 7th,2005, 02:42 PM
i dont think it would be a problem for them to keep ian holm asbilbo as in chapter 1 of the fellowship it says at 90 he looked like 50 at 99 he was clled well preserved. as we all know this was because of the ring and its power so i dont think its a problem
Elfdaughter
November 7th,2005, 05:14 PM
Shall we just sit back and let you three film it? ;) lol!
Arwen Evenstar
November 7th,2005, 05:21 PM
Hahaha. But Ian Holm will grow old in real life, but I can't think of a better Bilbo.
Stormcrow
November 9th,2005, 04:59 AM
Ian Holm will grow old in real life, but I can't think of a better Bilbo.
Neither can I...
ED, I would love to film it! Wouldn't you? lol
Arwen Evenstar
November 9th,2005, 05:41 PM
ED, I would love to film it! Wouldn't you? lol
I would too, or anything Tolkien has written!
Elfdaughter
November 9th,2005, 06:24 PM
Oh, yes, I would!! lol
Stormcrow
November 10th,2005, 07:17 AM
We should all become directors and producers and one day band together and make movies of Tolkeins works! lol
Iradil
November 10th,2005, 07:01 PM
yea that would be way cool
Arwen Evenstar
November 12th,2005, 08:43 AM
We're gonna need tons of money, though!
Stormcrow
November 12th,2005, 09:32 AM
Yeah, we best not get our hopes up guys...:-/
Arwen Evenstar
November 13th,2005, 10:51 AM
I read in a book taht it costs like millions to do an alien film, imagine putting all of Toliien's characters in!
Stormcrow
November 14th,2005, 09:34 AM
Oh my dear lord! That sounds potentially pricey! :o
Arwen Evenstar
November 14th,2005, 05:34 PM
Think of all the actors you need, the animations, all the crew, and much more!
Witch King
November 28th,2005, 04:38 PM
It would be smart. I mean, since they already made the prelude of the game they might as well make a movie. It would tell about what bilbo did with the ring.
Stormcrow
November 28th,2005, 10:49 PM
And of the dwarves, certain locations never seen before, more unknown characters, such as Beorn and more Gandalf! :p
Elvaril
December 11th,2005, 04:24 AM
I don't know, I'd love to see Smaug and even more Elves and all, but first I'd like to see LOTR completly (yeah, I know, shame on me, I still haven't seen all the three movies completly)
My girlfriend is a real fanatic, she watches atleast one of them a week. I can't wait to see them together with her :)
anyways, Mr Jackson making a Hobbit movie would be good because as someone else mentioned, Rivendell and the other sceneries would look the same, and that's always good. Gandalf would still be the same aswell I guess
but someone else making the movie might make it more "like-the-book" perhaps. oh well, who knows, we'll just see how it turns out
Cassandria
December 11th,2005, 04:27 PM
Elvaril when you do sit down to watch them, make sure you watch the EEs! ;) :thumbs:
PJ has the desire and is just as capable of following the books as any one else would be. It was a very difficult task to put these stories to film. He did the best he could and I feel he did a magnificent job! :thumbs: Sure there were some things I would have done differently, but I doubt there is a fan out there who can say differently. It would be the same no matter who made the movies...for we all are unique in our loves and lives in Middle Earth. You can never please everyone.
I'd like to see the Hobbit as told from PJs eyes also for the same reasons as you...I want consistancy with the LotR and Ian as Gandalf! ;)
Stormcrow
December 12th,2005, 12:46 AM
Elvaril when you do sit down to watch them, make sure you watch the EEs! ;) :thumbs:
Yes, you simply have to watch the Extended Editions! :grin: They are fantastic and have much more to offer than the thetrical versions of the films. They are much more fun to watch and they make it all flow together better, besides, you get more of the books in them!
Elvaril
December 12th,2005, 10:41 AM
my girlfriend will get the three movies with EE for her Christmas from her parents, so I hope I'll be able to watch them with her (now she just borrows them from someone else)
Stormcrow
December 12th,2005, 10:49 AM
lol Yay! Make sure you watch them, Elvaril! :thumbs:
Elvaril
December 12th,2005, 11:01 AM
It's on my to-do-list-before-I-die :)
Stormcrow
December 12th,2005, 11:06 AM
Great! I hope you get it done soon, because I wanna know what you think of them! :grin:
Elvaril
December 12th,2005, 11:11 AM
I hope I don't die then, before I can see them.
Stormcrow
December 12th,2005, 11:16 AM
:elfeek: Well, I hope that too!
Elvaril
December 12th,2005, 11:23 AM
To be completly honest, I don't really mind. Well, I would and I wouldn't.
Oh well.:-/
Arwen Evenstar
December 12th,2005, 07:25 PM
To be completly honest, I don't really mind. Well, I would and I wouldn't.
Oh well.:-/
:o I would mind!
Elvaril
December 12th,2005, 07:35 PM
life is just complicated, too complicated for me, I cannot do this alone
Witch King
January 6th,2006, 04:14 PM
I think the movie would be a great idea. I mean, its the prolude. Preludes are what start everything. We get to see what bilbo did with the ring.
Stormcrow
January 7th,2006, 12:56 AM
Yes, the main purpose of this film would be to deepen the understanding for those who have never read the books. Because from what I have seen, it is rather complicated for many people to understand and grasp.
Komodo
January 15th,2006, 01:19 PM
Indeedicus :cool:
Leader of the Nine
January 19th,2006, 08:56 PM
Should there be a hobbit film I think there should for sure. Hopfully PJ will do it after King Kong.
I voted YES. Maybe at the end of the year 2006, I think
Stormcrow
January 22nd,2006, 06:22 AM
Hmm, I somewhat think we won't be getting a hobbit film anytime in 2006. :huh: I'm thinking more along the lines of a few years from now, if ever. :( But I do know this, I would love it, but it is absolutely vital to make sure it fits right in. One slight mistake can change many peoples interpretations of the trilogy. Making prequels is harder than making sequels. If he stays true to Tolkein, I know everything will be alright. And PJ is a fabulous director, so no worries.
Gollum the Great
January 29th,2006, 03:33 AM
well if The Hobbit was indeed made into a film...and justly to the book as Tolkien wrote it with a childish intrest...it would show how Middle Earth was before the Dark Lord came back into power...it will give The Lord Of The Rings that more of a dark feel to the audience...because knowing how Middle Earth once was or seemed in the time of The Hobbit
So i think..go for it...BUT it must stay to the book and the tone Tolkien put into it!!! Dont make it all gorry dont make it all scary except for Smaug;) ... and for Tolkien's sake...DONT ADD CRAP just because it would look cool on screen...
*gosh it feels good to be back on Waroftherings...I missed you guys :-/ *
Morieen
January 31st,2006, 04:09 PM
Of course,there should be a film about it!Definitely!
Cuiel Rilwen
February 15th,2006, 11:58 AM
Has anyone heard any news on whether the legal stuff has been cleared yet? Now that Kong is done I should think PJ would dig into the Hobbit...I so wish he could get the rights!
Dunthule
February 16th,2006, 09:20 PM
I agree. Let's only hope. :)
Maybe late 2007?? :mmmm:
Cuiel Rilwen
February 16th,2006, 09:38 PM
Who knows...it's dragged on for a coupple of years already now. :huh:
Bria
February 17th,2006, 11:12 PM
I think it would be a good ideal, but people would still miss all the LOTR characters who they've already fallen in love with. The Hobbit movie will only have one hobbit and several dwarves...not much to look at.
Fingolfin
February 22nd,2006, 02:49 AM
Suilaid,
I was just passing by and read a lot of the posts about The Hobbit. I agree as well, that it should be done. I know that a lot of the sets and armory from the LOTR Trilogy will be able to be used. Also, the actors that played Gloin, Bilbo, Gandalf, and Elrond will still be able to do the movie (i.e. age). I only hope that they will be willing and are available to do it. If they can't pull all of that off I don't think it would be right ya know? I mean it is set in our heads what these characters looked like, how they spoke....It would be an injustice to us all if the same actors were unable to be in the movie.
Also on another note, I really feel that it should have been made first before any of the LOTR were made. Lets face the facts people when you go and look for a set of books of the LOTR for collecting purposes.. How do they come? (i.e. The Hobbit, The Fellowship of the Ring, The Two Towers and Return of the King) I really feel that they dropped the ball on that part by not making it first. There can so much debating on this subject but the fact is... Can it be done and when? I'm not going to hold my breath on this one but I truely hope it comes to pass.....
Fingolfin
Gollum the Great
February 22nd,2006, 03:21 PM
Now we could put some WOTR force into it...get your Sting replicas and Bows Laddie and Lasses!!! We'll make an offer PJ cant refuse...The Hobbit...or all your hair and one toe....HAHA:fight: :archer:
Fingolfin
March 4th,2006, 12:50 AM
By the way, what is the most recent news on the film? Has anyone heard any skinny on when and if it is going to be made? :whistle:
Cuiel Rilwen
March 4th,2006, 06:44 PM
Na...haven't heard zit! How 'bout it IHD...anything new on this?
mobyte
March 7th,2006, 08:07 PM
its coming out on the 13th of December or earlier
Cuiel Rilwen
March 7th,2006, 08:48 PM
Where did you find this info? No news has been heard for months, if you have a link to the source I'd be very interested! :)
Fingolfin
March 8th,2006, 02:27 AM
I think this person is yanking our chain!!! Or another part! LOL!! There is no way it could be kept this secret especially with all these LOTR nuts like me running around! lol
Gollum the Great
March 8th,2006, 05:32 AM
Im with Fin. on this one...no way in the world could there be The Hobbit movie comming out so soon with out an official website or any release into the media....come on!! LOTR was known about in 1998 when they were geting the rights to film it (or was it 1999?) regardless...it was known years before they were in theators!!
BUT BOY!!! I hope there is some truth in it...maybe they are going to start filming in December? WHO CARES! GIVE ME THE MOVIE!!! :grin:
Cuiel Rilwen
March 8th,2006, 12:02 PM
I think this person is yanking our chain!!! Or another part! LOL!! There is no way it could be kept this secret especially with all these LOTR nuts like me running around! lol
Or perhaps have been misinformed. ;) I'll admit I'm not believing it until I get hard evidence tho! lol
Fingolfin
March 8th,2006, 10:59 PM
Or perhaps have been misinformed. ;) I'll admit I'm not believing it until I get hard evidence tho! lol
To true Cuiel... to true!!! LOL But I have to agree also with Gollum... GIVE ME THE MOVIE!!!!
Gollum the Great
March 9th,2006, 12:30 AM
:idea: Fin man!!!:hyper: WE should make the Hobbit movie!!! Have action figures act it out, but for the fighting parts we could do like in the Old Lord of the Rings movie where it looks like a curtain is over the people who are really fighting...use you swords!! no need to worrie...I have Sting ;) What do ya say? probably cast about $250 for the camera and tape...lol they wont give us the movie....we'll make it ourselves!! :grin:
Cuiel Rilwen
March 9th,2006, 09:51 AM
Hehehe...I think in fact one of the members did something lke that earlier...can't find the link now tho...sounds like fun! :)
I most defo would want the movie to happen...but has to be done by PJ and FAST!!!! lol
The Renaissance Girl
March 9th,2006, 10:56 PM
YES, OF COURSE THERE SHOULD BE A HOBBIT FILM!!!! It's been THREE YEARS since the Return of the King!!! If LotR fans don't have a film to look forward to in the holiday season, we're gonna crack! (drama moment, please excuse...)
They're sorta obligated to make it now, since it IS the prelude to the trilogy. How can you have the main idea but not the intro? Come on, peeps. Besides, it will be one more step in LotR fans taking over the world! Bwahahahahaha!!!!!!! Hey maybe we could have a revolt or go on strike or something like that, if anyone things it might help speed things up. Yay? Nay? (that is a joke)
Fingolfin
March 10th,2006, 12:16 AM
Gollum, Cuiel, Ren Girl... I say we just put a petition together.... Seriously... Like an e-mail or something and put out our feelers and somehow find PJ's e-mail address and send it to him... Heck! we have the means to do it.... If he won't come to us (i.e. MOVIE!!!) then we'll go to him! Just have to find him in the web somewhere.... Can we do it???? Maybe, just maybe, if were lucky we will get a response from someone whether it be him or just an assistant or something!!! We need information! Going thru withdraws here PJ!!!! :hyper: We just need to put our heads together and find some people who are good at hacking or something that can get us an e-mail address....(start playing mission impossible music)... We can do it! This message will self-destruct in 10 seconds... (Just kidding HEHE!) I think we should do it! LOL
PS. Gollum... I do like the movie idea about the action figures though!! HAHA... As long as my Aragorn action figure can be in it! LOL
Love ya guys!
:grouphug:
Gollum the Great
March 10th,2006, 04:33 AM
HECK YES!!! *goes into closet and gets all black cloths, ski mask, and gloves* I have been waiting for the go a head....my mission....drag The Hobbit out of PJ if its the last thing I do.... *playing M.I. theme music now*
*throws some gear to Fingolfin* Tell your wife youre on a top secret mission, but not to worry....You'll be back by dinner time (not sure what day but before dinner). You can pick her up a nice something another to make up for lost time as well ;) ....QUICK!! To the TOLKIEN MOBILE!!!
Of Course Aragorn can have a guest appearence...he could be in Rivendell when they stoped by on the journey ;) HA-HA!!!
I better go before I like me mind take the best of me...
The Renaissance Girl
March 11th,2006, 12:11 AM
WAIT FOR ME!!! *grabs cloak and sword* You'll need someone to make your breakfast, wash the dishes and sing elf songs to you, right? (and maybe roll a few heads...) Team WotR blasts off at the speed of light! Hand over the Hobbit now and/or prepare to DIE!!!!!!!!!! *jabs with sword*
Now,Fingolfin, let's not do anything of questionable legality...:)
Ahahaha! You guys made me laugh, how can you be so hysterical?!?! Self-destruct and Tolkien Mobile, ahahahaha! You can also tell your wife to start a savings account for funeral expenses.
(kidding):)
Gollum the Great
March 11th,2006, 03:10 AM
Now you're on the right tract R.G!!! Funeral expences...and maybe some form of life insurance will be nessary for the wifey....cant be too good of a husband if you die of her and turned out to be a tighty pants lol
But R.G....cooking? no no dear, lets show them how us ladies fight!!! *grabes a sword and bow* take your pick, Im fine with either one....Fingolfin...ready?*mission impossible theme going on yet again, with a bit of the Lord of the Rings remixed into it ;) * Lets kick some dragon arse with some short fellas *throws on cloak and tightens belt*
Lets do dis tang:cool:
:fight: :archer: :battle:
after a pint or two entdraught
Fingolfin
March 11th,2006, 06:18 PM
Well, well, well, ladies.... I have to say there is some strength in you! HAHAHA!
This is what I think we need to do first....We need to get a group together and figure this out if you want to really do it. We need someone who can build us a web page and from that point we could direct people there to sign it a petition... Then we would have to do some reasearch and try to find PJ's e-mail address and send him a link as well... Ren.Girl.. Don't you know anything of the race of the Noldor... HAHAHA we are mighty hastey and will go to any length to get things accomplished that we whole heartedly believe in... Wouldn't that be a neat thing to see a little clip at the end of the movie that says: Thanks to all those LOTR fans that pushed and pushed to have the Hobbit made.. It was my pleasure! - P.J. or something to that affect... LOL (Wishing) Anyway, We need to a new forum going or an outside group... Any ideas??? ;)
PS. If you can cook... I'm all for that too! (Wink)
Cuiel Rilwen
March 11th,2006, 07:23 PM
Not to be a party pooper...but you guys are aware of the fact that there are legal issues preventing this from happening and not actually PJ's will right? :) Might be a good idea to direct your efforts towards the companies that are preventing the movie from being made and not towards PJ himself. ;)
Fingolfin
March 11th,2006, 11:12 PM
Alas! Cuiel... Please by all means explain the other companies that are preventing this film from happening? I would really like to know... and I'm not trying to sound contradicting (spelling??) :p
I would just like to know so I can attack at once! ;)
Cuiel Rilwen
March 11th,2006, 11:18 PM
Well...there are issues between the company who owns the right to produce and those who own the rights to distribute if memory serves me right. New Line and some other...there was a take over last winter so I don't quite remember. Is some info on it further back in this thread somewhere...I'm too lazy to go look and I have a teflon mind! Maybe the good dwarf remembers? :p
Gollum the Great
March 12th,2006, 07:30 PM
Point the finger at the buggas that wont allow our Hobbit movie!!! We'll get an army of LOTR Freeks, Geeks, and All Out Fanatics!!!! CHARGE!!!!! Storm the gates of this Mordor on our earth!!!! Quick Ren. Girl, Fingolfin....Hind the the barrels!!! Ill distract them....
"HEY LOOK....ANOTHER BIG MONKEY NEEDS TO BE MADE INTO A MOVIE"
Go guys!! GO GO GO!!! *whips out Sting* "Attercop! Attercop!! Won't you stop, Stop your spinning and look for me?" HA HA!!!!!
Im having way too much fun with this lol
Cuiel Rilwen
March 21st,2006, 09:43 PM
Well unless you haven't read the front page today I suppose you've seen what Saul Zaentz says about the Hobbit movie. A small light shines far up ahead that says it might get made someday.
Fingolfin
March 21st,2006, 11:52 PM
Well unless you haven't read the front page today I suppose you've seen what Saul Zaentz says about the Hobbit movie. A small light shines far up ahead that says it might get made someday.
You have got to be kidding me... They really dropped the ball on this. It makes me sick to think that it won't be made or might be made "someday" Just make it before the actors get to old to do it. I don't know... I must be having a bad day cause this really getting on my nerves!!!
Gollum the Great
March 22nd,2006, 03:19 AM
Oh man...happy its gonna come out....not so happy about having to wait for it longer....... did it state who was gonna be the acters? or at least Bilbo? *sigh*
Cuiel Rilwen
March 22nd,2006, 09:12 AM
Read more here. (http://jam.canoe.ca/Theatre/2006/03/17/1493101-sun.html)
*puts mod hat on* Please watch your french Fingolfin. :nono:
Fingolfin
March 24th,2006, 12:28 AM
What "french (bad language)" are you talking about??? Please tell me so I can watch my mouth... Must be the sailor coming out in me... Anyway, You can put the Hat away anytime!
You have got to be kidding me... They really dropped the ball on this. It makes me sick to think that it won't be made or might be made "someday" Just make it before the actors get to old to do it. I don't know... I must be having a bad day cause this really getting on my nerves!!!
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