The supernatural

[Elf angel]

Do you believe in the supernatural..like Ghost,spirits & such? i was just wondering if any of you have ever experienced something that is eerie & unexplained.

I did. My Grandpa died of a heart attack a year ago & a month after that i saw him sitting on his favourite chair ( it was around 10pm). It's was scary like hell.:elfeek:
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[A! Elbereth]

Nah... I do not believe in ghosts. They are completely made up to me.

Um... yeah that is quite strange... you could bet your money's worth that I would get a heart attack if I saw something like that. lol ;) :elfeek:

[Elf angel]

i fainted actually...after i woke up the entire neighbourhood with my mighty :elfeek::blush:.

I don't blive in supernatural too...at 1st...until it happened to me mecry.
:angel:

[Catz]

i believe that the world is a much stranger place than we give it credit for......and a much more magical one than we allow it to be :cool:
"There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy...."
:catz:

[Pil]

I like to think that ghosts and stuff do NOT exist....cos then you get scared much less easily in dark places...but i can't be definite... :batty:

[Little Devil]

Yep, i don't want to think if they exist, cos I'll scare the hell outta myself as I have a crazy imagination. :evil:

[TheRingBearer]

I do not beleive in ghosts but I do not have a closed mind towards possible supernatural happenings... if they are proved to happen if you follow me :).

[Mirkgirl]

I don't believe in them till I have the opprtunity to see them (not that I do want to, but anyway)...

I do think there is a good chance to have supernatural in this world... and I do believe that in any case it's better for us not to know what it is, save for wieldering it...

There are things ment to run in public

[Sindarin]

I sure as hell believe in ghosts. :elfeek:

I've had several supernatural experiences during my trips to the U.K.

[Lady Arien]

I very definitely believe in the existence of the "spirit world" so to speak.....some people are more sensitive to it than others, but I've never been afraid of it......

A couple of years ago, on Halloween night, or Samhain (for those who know it) I was wandering around the house before I went to bed....everyone else was asleep, all the lights were out, and as I was looking out the window (a last admiring glance at all the decorations) I felt a definite presence wash over me....comforting, like a cool breeze, and also tinged with a bit of sadness, as well.....my son's father called the next morning to tell me that his grandmother had passed away the night before....at about 11:45, the same time I was looking out the window.....I knew her health had been failing for some time, and I felt privileged that she, well, her spirit, anyway, had favored me with a last visit before passing into the next world.......

[Arwen Elf]

ALIENS!!!!!!! (X-Files theme)

[Elf angel]

Yeah,sometimes you chose not to believe because it's less scary that way.When i watched Sixth Sense,i thought it was so unreal..i mean i thought ghost suppose to be transparent or something not solid until i saw my Grandpa.He's not transparent but real.
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[Little Devil]

Sindarin whereabouts did you experience supernatural in the U.K???

[Sindarin]

York, Edinburgh, London, Bath, Warwick, and almost every Medieval castle I toured. :elfeek:

[Sindarin]

The two Bed & Breakfasts I lodged at while staying in Bath and York were haunted by quite noisy ghosts.

[Catz]

the interesting thing is......that ghosts look just like normal people....so how do we know?? any number of the people you pass on the street every day could be ghosts....still going about their regular business....hehehe its something to think about, isnt it....;)
not to mention the earth spirits and the earthbounds...the elementals good and bad.....those flickers of movement in the corners of your eye...that when you look at, they disappear....
Actually a mate of mine had a very bad time with a good friend of hers whod committed suicide.....he kept coming back to her....to apologise.....but he was getting trapped and she was getting freaked.....he moved on eventually, but it was an unsettling time for my friend......
:catz:

[Sindarin]

I've heard more ghosts than I've seen.

While visiting York, the resident spirit at the B&B I was staying at would continually pace up and down the corridor outside my bedroom every morning at exactly 2:15 am, and then suddenly silence five minutes later. It's movement would wake me up every time.

[Sindarin]

The scariest supernatural encounter I've ever experienced was at Warwick Castle.

I was alone in a circular turret room, and the temperature suddenly decreased - it became really cold, really fast - and I heard a very heavy, yet sad-sounding moan arise directly right behind me. It almost sounded as if it were a slow, desperate breathing being whispered to me.

The strange thing was, the moaning seemed to permeate from all directions of the room.

That was enough to freak me out, and I ran out of there like lightning. :elfeek:

[The Mystic]

Supernatural, the occult, the beings that live within the woodlands and whisper about us from a distance? Who believes in these silly thing? I do. Most of them I have personally experienced, the house I lived in for 19 years was haunted by many spirits including a decased nine year old girl with blonde hair which was in curls, a very soft face, blue eyes, and a dress. There is also a man, very shadowy and whenever someoen in our family would see him he would be solid black, no face. Whenever the house was empty and one of us would walk in and announce "Hello" out of habit he would answer back at the end of the hall with "Hello!" There is another spirit which we are unsure of, when at night between 2 - 4 AM and you are awake, on your back, in a bed that was neatly made during the day it would start at your feet, like hands lightly gripping at your ankles, then each would move up, you could actually see the imprints of the bedsheets being pushed in. It would continue to move up your legs and even up to your hips until you commanded it to stop, or scream. Whatever came first. This happened to all my family.

I am also very psychic, at times I can sense my friends and those I care for (especially those I have great love for) . Soemtimes if they are eating something and a random thought of me comes into their mind I would suddenly taste, smell, or feel what they are feeling. When they are in sorrow I am in sorrow.

I am also very heavily into spirtuality and nature, especially woodlands. After long periods of meditation once I open my eyes I can faintly hear the trees whispering. They say many things, and share many secrets if you know how to listen.

It isn't a matter of proving. It isn't a matter of seeking the truth. It's a matter of accepting there is something out there that we cannot comprehend. It's a matter of understanding there is more to life than the flesh of life or death, but rather, everything else after and before that.

For what I have shared with everyone here I takes it with an open mind, or leaves it be. Leave me no remarks of scorn, nor any threats, or put-downs. I respect the opinions of others and expect the same from everyone else.

~ The Mystic ~

[Little Devil]

Arggggh, getting kinda scared. I've been to loadz old castle's in England and never experienced anything.....yet!

[Catz]

some people never do....some only once and others all the time...i feel sorry for sensitives...its an isolating thing if people doent understand.....
actually tho most children can see ghosts...and theyre not usually scared of them either
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[Eowyn]

oh nooooo sindarin I'm going to york tell me which B&B I'm soooo not going to work there!

I live in Derby one of the most haunted cities in England and I'm moving to York! now theres a sensible idea. ahhhhhhhhhhh! We have a ghost walk (like a scary tour of the city) I know some of the pubs are haunted because I feel terrified walking by them.

[Lady Arien]

The last time we were in San Diego, we visited this old house in the oldest part of town that was, at different times, a residence, a post office/general store, and a courthouse. The guide said that the house was supposedly built on the site where some Indians were hanged (I don't remember what for) but it's been said that their spirits have been seen in the hallway and front room...although we didn't see them, there definitely WAS a presence, perhaps more than one, in that house. There's also a "Ghosts and Graveyards" tour, which is a tour ride around the city at dusk....we didn't have a chance to do that one, but it's definitely on the list for the next visit.

[Elf angel]

Mystic..you are so.....brave!!Wow Sindarin,you make it sound that UK might be the most huanted place on earth.

Mystic,why didn't they go to ...well..up there..where they suppose to go?

Chinese believe in this kind of thing.I read in the news a few years ago about a girl being raped & murdered.When the parents buried her,they dressed her up in a red dress.They also put a mirror on top of her head so that she can avenge her death.

A friend of mine K,had this eerie experience...happened in Singapore. She went into this ladies room (alone) & saw a woman squatting on the floor.She seemed to be eating or sucking something.K asked her if anything ok,she looked at K..well K fainted.The 'thing' only have a mouth & it was sucking on a ..bloody pad.

[Ringwraith]

I don't beleive in it, but I sure get scared when listen to some tales people tell. I get scared to easily.

[Ringwraith]

I wanted to edit my previous post, but I wasn't allowed to do so. Sorry for the double posting...

Originally posted by The Mystic
It isn't a matter of proving. It isn't a matter of seeking the truth. It's a matter of accepting there is something out there that we cannot comprehend. It's a matter of understanding there is more to life than the flesh of life or death, but rather, everything else after and before that.

Now that is interesting. My beleifs are quite opposed to yours, guessing from what I've read, but what you described in that paragraph could perfectly fit me describing my beleifs.

Maybe we are on different sides of the same coin and still haven't noticed it.

[Sindarin]

Eowyn, the Bed & Breakfast I stayed in was The Sycamore.

[Sindarin]

Another haunted York inn is The Golden Fleece.

I wouldn't recommend staying there since the resident ghost, a Canadian airman who committed suicde at the inn during the thirties, has been known to pull the hair and tickle the feet of people who are sleeping in bed. :elfeek:

[Eowyn]

thanks! I'll make sure I avoid them! I'm going to university there so providing my parents don't stay there if they visit I think I can avoid it!

[Elf angel]

why do you think they stay?

[Pil]

Ghosts u mean? :huh:

[Ringwraith]

Because they have unfinished business?

PS: this is my 100th post :D :)

[Catz]

congrats Ringwraith:hooray:
there are any number of theories....and i think there are probably many different reasons....from those spirits with unfinished business, to elementals, to time slips to recordings of the past....any, all or none could be true....but thats good...the world would be a poorer place if it lost all its mysteries i think....
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[TheRingBearer]

Isn't one of the theories to do with waiting to be judged. You know, you're not in heaven or hell but the place inbetween so you can just wander the earth as a lost spirit.

[Eowyn]

creepy!

[Catz]

thats a christian belief yeah....and in other religions youll find other reasons....and im sure that everyone has come across places that just dont seem to like people....that just have a really bad vibe...often those cases dont have anything to do with anything happening there...they are more elementals....or devas....theres so many possibilities:cool:
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[Ringwraith]

Are spirits aware that they completely scare and freak us out?

[Catz]

i dont think the ones that want contact are....i think all they want is for whoever it is that theyre trying to communicate with to listen to them....which can be tough, cos theyre often as confused and scared as the person seeing them.....
:catz:

[TheRingBearer]

That would be pretty strange

[Mirkgirl]

If we take that ghosts are another stage of people, then they might be like the people - some might like to scare us, some might not be aware, others might be aware and not knowing how to prevent it, others may try. Who knows? :huh:

[Ringwraith]

Oh well, as long as they don't grab my feet while I'm sleeping...

[Little Devil]

Ohhhhhh.... that would be scary and maybe kinda painful!

[A! Elbereth]

I really do not know what happens to the spirits of dead people... But i don't believe in pergatory, or spirits wandering the earth... but i really do not know where else they'd be.... :huh: (scary huh smiley)

Argh! Don't mind me! I'm just a swooning maniac! lol

[TheRingBearer]

lol

[Elf angel]

Originally posted by Ringwraith
Oh well, as long as they don't grab my feet while I'm sleeping...
No they won't,they just stand there looking at you or just maybe touch your feet.
But imagine this..you alne in an elevator .. you can sense something behind you....you heard a sigh......ok now i'm scaring myself!!

[Eowyn]

ahhhhh!

[Bonos-Girl]

the thing with ghosts trying to contact us is that from an early age we're taught that ghosts are somehow evil and stuff....it would kinda be diificult for the ghost coz even if it wasn't doing anything scary it would be simply because it's a ghost

[Elf angel]

what would you do if you see one?:grin:
:evilcool:

[TheRingBearer]

RUN :elfeek:

Seriously, I'd be useless :grin: lol

[Eowyn]

I would either run or more likely stop breathing and freeze. I would look like a rabbit caught in the headlights. (until I remember my legs work.) :blush:

that or I would just dismiss it as my stupid eyesight. (actually this ones probably the most likely :huh: )

[Mirkgirl]

I don't know and I don't want to know ;)

[Little Devil]

Probably freeze with shock, then come to my senses and run screaming my head off. :o

[Eowyn]

I thought this thread should reappear since its halloween tommorrow!

[Ranger]

Okay time for some ghostly goings on...

I'd just been to a wake and was about to go home when I turned around and looked back at the place I'd just been in; I saw a woman walking across the road I turned away and looked back again a second later. The woman was gone and unless my Aunt had a twin no one knew about it, it was her. The wake I'd just been to was my aunt's.

Okay perfectly normal holiday, perfectly normal day. I went back to the hotel, opened the drawer to get something out of it; the bible that I'd put into the bottom drawer to had moved back into the middle drawer. The next day I purposly moved it to the bottm drawer again to see what would happen. I came back it was in the middle drawer AGAIN. Nobody had been in the room either that includes the maid! Oh yeah the hotel's supposed to be haunted!

Okay I was about 8 or 10 when I decided to put in a tape and record something on this old hi-fi type thing. Note this wasn't the radio just a blank tape. Anyway the phone rang my mam answered it and began speaking to my nan. My mam's voice appeared over the hi-fi. I thought it was funny if not weird. Then my nan's voice appeared over the hi-fi too, I carried on recording until the call ended then I rewound the tape, it had recored my mam who was downstairs at the time and my nan who was in Manchester. About a week later she died.

There's another more recent spooky story in the 'so where are you all from' thread.

[Bonos-Girl]

whoa...nothing ever happens to me.....actually i'm sure there was something that happened to me, i can't remember it though...whoops!!

[Belaqua]

I've never seen a ghost but my nan's brother Peter died in his twenties. They flushed his ashes down the loo (don't ask, 'cause i have no idea why). Anyway, one night my nan was in bed and she heard the toilet flushing but she was the only person in the house. Then, she drifted off, but woke up later to find him sitting at the foot of her bed. It couldn't have been my grandad because he was out at the time and he didn't come in till after this happened.

[Elrenia]

It was a month that my grand-father died when that event happened..

We had that old car that could not go faster than 70 km/hour...One day my mother used it to do some shopping...It was very cold (about -35 C). Suddenly, the car stopped on the high way...My mother all panicked was trying to see what was wrong, etc. She was getting colder so she said "Daddy, please help me to go at least to Christian's (that's my dad) office, I can't stay here it is too cold"...And immediately the car went back on the road and for the first time in years, my mother could reach 110km/hour. When she arrives at my dad's office...the car never responded again...We all said that it was my grandfather who did that because he used to drive very fast..lol

[Adunauriel]

That's kinda cool. I guess Spirits do help us at times. Guardian Angels.

[A! Elbereth]

Ugh.... ghosts.... *shivers* I remember when I was afraid to sleep with the lights on when I was 6 lol

[Little Devil]

lol, anyone going trick or treating?

[Bonos-Girl]

nope..i'm staying in and scaring them with a lighter and an aerosol can (not really...but i'm not giving them anything...dratted little kids!!)

[Belaqua]

Heh. Could i join you? All night i've had nothing but " wow, thats a really scary mask you're wearing, oh no its just your face." Stupid brother. i tried to get him to scare the trick or treaters but no one has turned up. my parents wouldn't let us go out. Nothing interesting ever happens at halloween at my house.

[Daisy Gamgee]

I seem to remember hearing or reading once that not all ghoslty sightings are spirits of dead people. It was something to do with there being many time planes, and sometimes they get mixed up so something appears in our time plane but only fleetingly. Does anybody know whether I'm just making this up or am I on the right lines?

I do believe in the supernatural, although that show Crossing Over with John Edwards, I'm a little cynical about - he's jsut in it for the money I think

[Eowyn]

I have no idea but i do believe that this sort of thing happens. some can be explained though. science ruins good horror stories.

Aranel and I dressed as death eaters. (I'll put the pics up when we get them) and I wanted to scare some kids (especially those dressed as harry potter :wicked: but we didn't see any. we heard them. anyway people were impressed mainly 'cos we made them ourselves. they looked really good except some people pointed out they were a bit like the scottish widow advert. oh well thats nexy year sorted lol plus ringwraiths and something about starwars lol so I don't need a costume for the next few years lol

[Bonos-Girl]

i believe that if somneone is having an out of body experiance then you could see them as a ghost, but as these experiences generally only happen for a short while its probably quite unusual to see one....another theory is that if someone is in a coma or unconcious then they can be seen as a ghost.

[Eowyn]

really! :o

[Ranger]

Yeah really, i'Ve heard about people in coma's having OBE's too, so what do you think of Astral Projection?

[Lady Arien]

In addition to astral projection (which sometimes happens during the dream state) some people are able to perform what's known as bi-location, and the "subtle body" ( the psyche or spirit) can be seen a place sometimes miles away from where the physical body is, although this takes great powers of concentration and command over the subtle body. It's said that when you're falling asleep, and you feel like you're physically falling, it is actually the subtle body being released, but most people are shocked awake by the sensation of falling and the process is short-circuited.

[ridnarhti_M]

:jester: Expect me to enter something on SuperNatural soon, i will however read all entries in this thread carefully before trying to give my views, which are maybe less spectacular than you suppose, but SuperNatural is not a word for me. Natural is ALL that happens in Nature, so why not simply call it DifferentToAverage? :jester:

[Catz]

ummmm cos its too much of a mouthfull lol
but i know what you mean ridn....there is no such thing as supernatural....just natural things we dont understand....most of us go thru life wearing blinkers and looking at a very narrow slice of life......when you look outside of the acceptable tho, you find some amazing things...
:catz:

[Eowyn]

Originally posted by Lady Arien
In addition to astral projection (which sometimes happens during the dream state) some people are able to perform what's known as bi-location, and the "subtle body" ( the psyche or spirit) can be seen a place sometimes miles away from where the physical body is, although this takes great powers of concentration and command over the subtle body. It's said that when you're falling asleep, and you feel like you're physically falling, it is actually the subtle body being released, but most people are shocked awake by the sensation of falling and the process is short-circuited.

:o but that happens to me! :o

[Little Devil]

amd me. scary

[Elf angel]

Originally posted by Lady Arien
In addition to astral projection (which sometimes happens during the dream state) some people are able to perform what's known as bi-location, and the "subtle body" ( the psyche or spirit) can be seen a place sometimes miles away from where the physical body is, although this takes great powers of concentration and command over the subtle body. It's said that when you're falling asleep, and you feel like you're physically falling, it is actually the subtle body being released, but most people are shocked awake by the sensation of falling and the process is short-circuited.

Everyone can do this(astral projection) ?

[Elf angel]

Did any of you ever played the Ouija board before?

[Lady Arien]

It takes a long of discipline and practice, practice, practice....everyone is capable of it to some degree, I believe, but some are just more naturally attuned to it than others....we are all given the gift of a brain at birth, but we only use, what, less than 10% total (I've read that in a couple of different places), so it stands to reason that the more of our brain power we are able to command, the more we can do...

[Catz]

please please can i just say.....dont fool around with Oujia boards....the will concentrated on them can attract some nasty elementals and earth bounds that you really dont want hanging around
i always liken ouija boards to a power drill in the hands of a baby, a powerful tool that shouldnt be used by the inexperienced (or at all IMHO)..........oujia boards are used by those who have no idea of the sorts of things they can drag up....aside from anything else, they can drag up nasty parts of the sitters own pyches, which if you are not a very grounded individual can be very damaging, not to mention what they can attract from outside......
im not trying to put anyone off psychic development, but the ouija board isnt the way to do it...theyre the trawl net of psychic development.....you throw it out.....but youve no idea what youll get back........
and theres a school of thought that says that we all astral travel and that this is what dreaming...particularly lucid dreaming, is....
:catz:

[Elf angel]

That's scary. Never played one before and don't intend to coz i'm not the 'strong' type. My friend asked me once but i was too scared.

[Bonos-Girl]

i tried once but i was with some friends who weren't taking it seriously or anything so nothing happened.....we only use 1% of our brain...not even 10%!!!!!

[Lady Arien]

Well, BG, maybe YOU only use 1%, some of us have learned to use as much as 3 or 4 :grin: :grin: hehehe....it's true though, we only use a very small percentage (one of my favorite movies is "Defending Your Life," and, according to the plot line, some of us evolve enough to be using over 50%....THAT would be awesome! Okay, back on topic....)

As for the Ouija board....I wouldn't mess with it either....too much potential for the uninitiated/simply fascinated to get into a lot of trouble....I worked with someone who brought in a Ouija board mouse pad....even that was a tad too uncomfortable for me....

[ridnarhti_M]

:jester:
i wont go into figures... 10% however seems to be the MAX we will ever be able to use actively... i did lots of studies on it as i was highly interested why i seemed to function differently from most of the people I know. 90% is either spare for to compensate dying cells during lifetime or take-over in case of cerebral damages.

OUIJA- board experiments have made me shiver when performed by people at distance even. There are powers no-one should mess with unless they have faced their fears and black mindparts and conquered them. A Balrog is a nice kitten compared to the powers that can be experienced it the astral and etherical world.

Real Life Scars can result from it... not to mention the emotional damage.... years of therapy would be needed to heal that if it will be possible to heal it at all

THE JESTER SPEAKS FROM BITTER EXPERIENCE.... NO joking this time .

I beg you listen to the words of one who has been there... though he is an old man ( I AM 57 almost)

[Bright Shadow]

im too reasonable to believe in such nonsense!
as cool as it would be for there really to be supernatural things like magic.. I just cant convince myself :(
that goes for pretty much everything that cant be proven..
oh well :rolleyes:

[Catz]

hey brightshadow.......while youre entitled to your opinion, and were very glad to have your contribution, can you not use terms like "nonsense" ? theyre belittling and unnecessary ok?
thank you :grin: :cool:
and proof? well thats a tough one..........how do you prove the existance of an emotion?.......sure you can show the results of an emotion........but can you prove the existance of the emotion itself? kind of tough

[Bright Shadow]

sorry, i didnt mean for it to sound like that.. it was supposed to sound kinda sarcastic :( sorry!
interesting point.. with emotions there.. but i guess one could say they are a result of thought and sentience.. and i guess though sentience cant really be proven.. i have no choice but to believe in that :grin:

[Catz]

NP:grin: :thumbs:
:catz:

[ridnarhti_M]

:jester:

Hi Bright Shadow.... i didnt see myself using the word magic ..... could you point me where it is in my post???? roflmao

Dont be mistaken... i was as sceptic as you are... let that be what i will tell about it. I was not speaking of results outside a persons mind... and that mind does control the body to a high level.. I just mentioned the effects to the person(s) involved in such experiments as Ouija-board and mind-control-techniques

No hard feelings on the word nonsense... as it is nonsense you are right there... it is Sensitivity

[Daisy Gamgee]

Originally posted by Catz
and proof? well thats a tough one..........how do you prove the existance of an emotion?.......sure you can show the results of an emotion........but can you prove the existance of the emotion itself? kind of tough [/B]

I heard something like that yesterday, can't remember where though. Somebody was saying she wouldn't believe in aliens/ the supernatural until she had prove, and then somebody else said do you love your dad, and she said yea, and the other person said prove it, and she was stumped.

Most people, when it comes to new ways of thinking, like to have it written down as a scientific paper in front of them -they don't realise that most of the old believe system, and morals etc, have no evidence of their exisitence either.

[Lintefaniel]

Faith provides experience. Proof can't be given, even with faith. Only experience is capable of providing "proof". Yet, if we have never had the faith in the fact that we may not be the only ones in the universe, be it astral, cosmic, spiritual, or what have you, how can say they don't exist? I personally believed long before I had my experiences. Partly because I have always been taught that we weren't alone. Mostly because I just know it.
I believe in bad spirits and good spirits. I believe in life on other planets, even if the ones in our Universe are uninhabited (as far as has been revealed to the public.) I believe in higher and lower planes of existance in the spirit world. My experience with the spirit world has been unconventional to our world. It has been abnormal in the text book sense of the word, however, I was only briefly unsettled. Usually my experiences have been limited to precognative, postcognative, "ESP"and astral projections. I have been "haunted". Meaning, I have been approached by negative spirits intent on causing discomfort or distress. I have had the experience of automatic writing but as has been stated in prior posts, Ouiji boards are not to be messed with and my experience has never been with one. These things are considered gifts to me and I do not simply "ply my trade" so to speak. I have never put my gifts to a test and I have no intention of "sharing" them with other people as some sort of effort or enlisted medium. They weren't meant for show and I only tell you of them now to let you know of the basis of my beliefs. I too have seen whole persons even after they have passed from this life. But I can say with personal authority that unless you sense these to be distructive or intent on causing discontent, most are simply saying their goodbyes in one form or another. My grandfather joined me and my cousins in the chapel the Sunday after his death, while we were practicing a song for his services. My grandmother appeared to me the morning before my mother's father passed away and I was able to see them walk off together. I have seen my children and I am not married nor do I have any children at this time. But none of these were anything to be afraid of. In fact, (this has been mentioned before) it is completely natural. The term supernatural is a word similar to extraordinary (which to me means 'ordinary inhanced') , it just means 'natural inhanced'. Natural improved upon. What we consider natural is our own definition. The spiritworld is literally another dimension: another facet of our world. Just another place to explore if we do it with the right attitudes.......IMO;)

[Bright Shadow]

sorry ridnarhti, i did not mean to imply that you mentioned it, that was just the first supernatural thing that popped into my head..

[ridnarhti_M]

:jester:

No harm done... Bright Shadow....
But 'magic' EVEN in my vocabulary is BOGUS......
and I talked to catz... she knows what I mean... about what real mind-control can do...

If you and I were to meet... i would be able to cause you real burn-marks by letting you hold a pencil ... telling you is is a burning cigarette you cannot get from between your fingers....
provided you would believe in hypnotisms or strong suggestions

i have DONE it.... and am very sorry i did

But... friends... okies?

[Lady Arien]

It is very true, that these powers of the mind are, indeed, a gift, and, as such, in deference to the three-fold law that exists in the "alternative" (although I prefer, "olde") religions, whatever is put out in the universe returns to you three times stronger.....especially when one sacreligiously perverts the gift to bring harm to other people....and in playing around with a Ouija board, you may not even be aware of causing harm.....

[Moraneah]

Don't talk ouiji boards ato me, I have heard to many freaky stories. Its just too, too, scarey. I may be off the wall, but I have my limits, and devil possession isn't one of them. I know its may or may not happen but I also will not take that chance. I'm too chicken (barrrrrrrock)hearnoevil

[Lintefaniel]

Cute Moraneah! I completely agree...they shouldn't even be considered anymore, but to each his own. But IMO stay away from them.....

[Catz]

the problem with ouija boards is theyre treated like theyre fun and harmless........which they are not.......and people seem to think that if they "dont believe in that stuff" that theyre safe.......but nothing could be further from the truth......best bet is just to stay away..........
:catz:

[Bawax]

i know i'm a bit late replying to this but i don't believe in anything at all to do with the supernatural, i once thought i saw something freaky but it was just a guy who looked so much like my dead grandad that even my nan would have been shocked.

my house was apparantly haunted but i haven't had any experience of it, my brother, elder sister and my mum all said they have had sort of weird experiences but i just blame the fact that their all insane. :grin:

[ridnarhti_M]

:jester:

Hi Bawax, here's a Fool's view at your post roflmao

And if they all are... what makes you think you are the only SANE one....??? Statistics would tell you the chance of being sane the way you seem to use it are far larger than the opposite... and who is/are minority and majority in this case??

Think it over carefully... because your own 'mathematical and sceptical' way of thinking might be the trap to avoid , ;)

Maybe i am kidding you a bit... after all i decided to be the Fool and Joker, maybe you could come to an idea that there is 'more under the sun' than your eyes yet can see ;) :) :angel:

:jester: :jester: BTW have a :beer: on my tab.... ;)

[Bawax]

if i have some kind of weird happening occur then i'll probably change my mind but until then your all freaks for thinking ghosts exist. :p lol

my brother and sister always were attention seekers anyway, i sleep in the room where all these things happened and i haven't had a thing happen while i was there, i've been in the room for the past 11 years since these things happened. :)

now what do you think, me mad or my family stupid? i think the latter. :grin: lol

[Ilmarë]

hearnoevil
*runs away snickering before B can trout her*

[Catz]

i sleep in the room where all these things happened and i haven't had a thing happen while i was there,
thats not what you told me....:naughty: ;) :p
and anyway i think youd scare off any spirits......that didnt come in bottles anyway lolroflmao lol :rolleyes:
Seriously tho........
there are people who DONT ever have an experience of a "supernatural" sort.....but theyre well outnumbered by those that do..........so id say that either youre sane and were ALL crazy hehehe.......or youre the abnormal one..........now theres a stretch :rolleyes: lol
:catz:

[Bright Shadow]

http://paranormal.about.com/library/weekly/aa090699.htm
its about ouija boards...

[Lady Arien]

Bawax.......I deeply resent being called a "freak" for my beliefs, and as we maintain a policy of RESPECT for all opions and ideas posted here, in ALL forums, I heartily suggest that you refrain from stepping on the toes of people who's views differ from your own....I, myself, have a tendency to kick when my toes get stepped on....whether your post was in jest or not, I believe an apology is in order.

[ridnarhti_M]

:jester:

Though your opinion hardly counts in this matter for me... Bawax... I have to agree with the post before this one.... do we call you an insensitive and 'limited' person or anything offensive because you do not share our experiences?? roflmao

Let us hope you will be kept from the really threatening ghosts that live inside all of us and manifest themselves .... maybe because we are not afraid to confront our inner negative feelings.

in my view some-one willing to kill for peace is a TRUE freak I'd rather be killed than kill.
:jester:" :angel: :jester:

[Bawax]

oh, sorry, i didn't realise i'd caused offence, i thought it was plain to see it was no more then a joke, i'd never categorise or stereotype people who believe these things as freaks, that is one thing that i have never done cause so much of it has happened to me.

i am sorry if you two took offence, it was not intentional.

may i just add, i do not appreciate being expected to apologise, if i offend someone accidentaly i will apologise but please don't just say, i don't like it you've got to say sorry cause many people will not.

[Lady Arien]

Your apology is deeply appreciated!!

:) :) :) :) :)

[Bawax]

thank you very much for accepting it.

:)

[Elf angel]

Ok, any real ghost stories you guys wanna share?

[Windwater Elf]

Yes, I do believe that ghosts and spirits (good as well as evil) do exist. I also believe that good angels and evil demons exist as well.

[Winyaél Greenleaf]

This subject on the supernatural is really ambiguous. I'm not even sure if I do myself. Have fun discussing, and if you have any ghost stories, do share them. I personally have heard lots regarding my sch. Shall post some if anyone's interested.

By the way, anyone considers elves supernatural? I'm sure wizards are though. definitely.

[Amoraq]

I suppose elves are kind of supernatural since they live forever and have great healing powers and can move around silently. Then again, they could be considered more natural than anything because of their attunement to nature....sort of. I'm confusing myself.lol

Wizards are definitely supernatural though.

[Catz]

ok, ive merged these two threads.......please, before starting a new thread do a search (http://www.warofthering.net/forums/vbulletin225/upload/search.php?s=) not just a visual check, since depending on how you have your forum display set, you probably wont be seeing most of the exisiting threads, ok?
thanks
Catz: