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Ilmarė
June 17th,2002, 11:20 PM
So...were all the peformances in "The Fellowship of the Ring" excellent or were there any performances you thought weren't up to scratch?
Personally...i thought that Liv's performance was pretty average.

Fatty
June 17th,2002, 11:43 PM
Well I liked Liz, but thought gaadriel was poor, though I gues the actual acting performace was good.

Sauruman was suitable OTT and a even a bit hammy, but worked well.

Elijah looked right, but my judgement is out till we see the next movie and if he convincinly develops.

Illuvatar
June 17th,2002, 11:52 PM
I have to agree with Fatty on one....Galadriel's bit was hurt by the cheasy special effects bit , other than that she was okay...

To me Elrond had to be the most dryest, no emotion, still working on the Matrix script performance EVER!! pfbbt

tosca
June 18th,2002, 02:39 AM
who is Liz?? i feel like i should know...also my name is Liz, so that was weird.

i thought that Elijah looked absolutely perfect...and i've heard that he does develop and change as the Ring weighs more on him...yeah.

i don't know...i didn't really DISlike anyone...Galadriel scared me...and so did Bilbo (honestly!! i've seen it 4 times and i get freaked out EVERY time)

i loved all the Hobbits...i don't know. i like hobbits anyways...but...yeah.
Elrond WAS really...emotionless. and i know he's an Elf...but he SHOULD have SOME emotion

Pil
June 20th,2002, 08:44 PM
Yeah, its gonna b wierd if they start doing the whole 'Elrond and Arwen have a bitter parting' in ROTK cos a) they've never been in a scene together, how r we to know they r father and daugher? and b) Elrond just doesn't seem the affectionate type!

tosca
June 21st,2002, 01:25 AM
yeah...does Elrond feel at ALL?!?! maybe he's like...an android. or something. plus (i was just reading the Sil) i SO did NOT know how all the elves were related. like Galadriel and Elrond and them all...yeah.

Pil
June 21st,2002, 10:25 AM
I sense inbreeding children...elves with three noses...two heads...not so fair now are they?!

WinterSoul
June 21st,2002, 11:55 PM
To me the performance of Cate Blanchet was not that good.
I really like her but i don't think she was a suitable Galadriel.

Catz
June 22nd,2002, 06:33 AM
actually...i loved Cate...and yeah, ok...the special effects were cheezy...nuclear Galadriel left me a little cold too, but otherwise i loved her....kind of remote, kind of scarey...a powerful woman...
Liv however.....well...she just doesnt have the look, that bone structure...and the big quivery blubbery lips give me the creeps!!!
Ahem...now ive got that out of the way..heheh
but Elrond was really the only one i had a problem with....and talking of cheezy, he definitely had THE cheeziest lines in the whole movie, which didnt help.....poor beggar;) and that wasnt so much the performance as the interpretation....but it WAS a valid interpretation, so i can live with it...

Ilmarė
June 22nd,2002, 03:18 PM
Nuclear Galadriel...I love it catz!!lol

WinterSoul
June 23rd,2002, 01:42 AM
way to go!
NUCLEAR GALADRIEL OF ATOMIC WOOD LOTHLORIEN
:p

Catz i didn't like Galadriel for she was too mysterious. She gave me the creeps. that's all.
not the nuclear effects lol but the way she looked and talked etc:
Maybe i'm more used to her character in the book and that's why i can't put up with her in the movie.

AND ABOUT ARWEN [LT] - NO COMMENT

tosca
June 24th,2002, 03:50 AM
i had a really bizarre dream last night...i went to see TTT because for some reason my theatre had it now...and LT had blue eyes and it was weird. offtopic i know...

my friend HATES Liv. i mean, with a PASSION. he won't even say her NAME. it's all like "that *****..."

but yeah. i liked her in That Thing You Do, but now she's starting to get annoying as Arwen. I don't know...wasn't there some thing about casting only Brits and that's why Elijah had to fight for the part?? am i just mad?? oh well.

Nuclear Galadriel sees all...and KNOWS ALL

tosca
June 24th,2002, 03:50 AM
lol. go censorship. :p

Pil
June 24th,2002, 10:32 AM
I need to met your friend tosca, I ABSOLUTELY HATE LIV TOO! Arwen's cool but Liv just annoys me! LIV TYLER :archer:

Soz liv fans...! :embarras:

Beregond
June 24th,2002, 04:48 PM
No body talks much about Sean Bean (Boromir). I thought he was great in the movie. He always had that glint of evil in him. I thought he had a really good performance at the end. I also thought Liv Tyler's acting was only average. Galadriel was just . . . creepy. For Elrond it just didn't seem right after seeing him as an agent in the Matrix. His face just seems . . .evil. And plus he has a big forehead too. Just thought I'd mention that.

A! Elbereth
June 24th,2002, 05:26 PM
What do you mean Brits? There were lotz of ppl who werent British....... I read that Elijah Got the part easily

Catz
June 25th,2002, 03:55 AM
i think that originally, the idea was to cast British actors in lead roles....mainly because of the style of the book....it is very english...but in the end PJ just decided to go for the best actor for the parts....Elijah was PJ's Frodo....its as simple as that....
Liv however bothers me...and im sure its those damn lips...all blubbery and quivery....errrrggghhh
actually Bergond, Sean Bean is very popular.......i myself thought his was one of the standout performances in FOTR, and i know a lot of the others on this site do too....he just hasnt been mentioned much yet:grin:
i liked the fact that Galadriel was creepy.....she was very powerful.....but that all depends on how you saw her in the book i guess...i always saw her as a little threatening there too, as well as kind and wise....
:catz:

Ilmarė
June 25th,2002, 10:43 AM
I agree Catz... I think Sean Bean gave a wonderful performance...gave such depth to Boromir...showed his pride and his vulnerablilty.
Ultimately, I think PJ had to go with the best actors for the job...and not pick actors just because they were Brits. As one who trains teenagers in that particular field, i know how difficult it can be when you have an actor in the wrong role and they just can't give you the interpretation you're looking for.

:elfqueen:

Pil
June 25th,2002, 11:34 AM
U train teenagers to act? Cool...but i imagined you to be this 17 year old or summut! U could b a really talented 17 year old... :embarras:

Mirkgirl
June 25th,2002, 09:00 PM
Boromir fitted great indeed, I can imagine better but yet the best actor performance in the role

Galadriel... there was something in the bones of her face and the hair, especially the hair, made her look, not evil as most say, but comical

Ilmarė
June 25th,2002, 09:41 PM
Ah Pil.... 'fraid not....not for a while....then again...i don't think i'd want to be 17 again:elfeek: I'm permanently 18 in my head tho. Age doesn't matter at all to me.... it's the person that you are, not the number that counts.


:elfqueen:

A! Elbereth
June 26th,2002, 12:41 AM
I think that the seen with the Mirror and Galadriel was wierd... the effects scared me at first (in a omg they ruined it sense)... I think in that scene they over did it just a tad

Catz
June 26th,2002, 02:29 AM
hear hear Ilm entdraught....youre as old as you feel....*grins* in my case that varies between 20 and 85...lol with my actual chronological age somewhere in the middle....
yeah...the CG was a little over the top......but i do think that they were right to invest Galadriel with menace....shes one tough broad...... and i liked that it was brought out a little.....
:catz:

A! Elbereth
June 26th,2002, 02:38 AM
Yes... i guess but I still think that giving the elderly heart attacks was out of the question:o :o :o

AlienFX007
June 26th,2002, 03:13 AM
Originally posted by tosca
who is Liz?? i feel like i should know...also my name is Liz, so that was weird.

Hey, I'm Liz! :p Ya, peeps keep saying "Liz" instead of "Liv" for some reason. :cool:

A! Elbereth
June 26th,2002, 03:14 AM
lol lol

Pil
June 26th,2002, 12:55 PM
I didn't like how only frodo got to look in the mirror...i loved how in the book sam saw what he thought was frodo 'asleep' but then he thinks it was frodo 'dead'...but it turns out to be frodo...um...paralysed... (?) :cool:

Catz
June 26th,2002, 03:06 PM
so.....since we have two of you, does that make you Lizards.....*catz grins at Alien and decides to go play somewhere safer....like in the heavy traffic:o *
:catz:

Bonos-Girl
June 26th,2002, 03:27 PM
I think that sean (b) and viggo are the best actors but i liked elronds 'doom' bits, the way he says it is just totally cool.

Pil
June 26th,2002, 03:31 PM
Elrond's 'DOOOOOOM!'....Yup, c the appeal! Only in voice terms...he is soooooo not fit... :witch:

Now for some one who IS fit...has everyone met Sindarin? :loveyou:

Catz
June 27th,2002, 12:40 AM
since Sindarin isnt a part of the cast of the movie, i dont think its appropriate to discuss him here Pil....besides, youre drooling on me, and catz hate gettin wet!!;) USE PM....OK?:thumbs:
:catz:

Bonos-Girl
June 27th,2002, 08:28 AM
I think elrond is kinda (only very slightly) cute. Maybe thats just my warped view but...

Pil
June 27th,2002, 01:03 PM
AAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!! :elfeek:

Ilmarė
June 27th,2002, 02:25 PM
Hi....it's your friendly moderator here:grin: Please try to keep your comments on thread....comments of a personal nature should be confined to PMs.
Thanks guys:thumbs:


:elfqueen:

Mirkgirl
June 27th,2002, 05:50 PM
The Good, the bad and the PM rofl

A! Elbereth
June 27th,2002, 05:55 PM
argggghhhh Wann know someone whos fit then ask.... i dont know!!!!!!!

Pil
June 27th,2002, 07:52 PM
Oooook peeps, lets do what Ilmare suggested or i think the thread will be dead and buried before we know it! ;)

Did anyone not like the performance of Mr. Butterbur? Who played him anyway? I thought he was too...greasy for my liking.

Plus, one of my fav chapters of FOTR is Strider, with the mix up about the letter... i think that mr. Butterbur would have had a chance to shine had it been included! :)

Bonos-Girl
July 1st,2002, 01:30 PM
no, i didn't like mr butterbur either, the most dissapointing part of the prancing pony scene was that frodo didn't stand on a table and make a complete *** of himself.

Catz
July 2nd,2002, 01:24 AM
god im so glad they didnt put that bit in....:grin: sorry BG, but how on earth would an audience ever take the character seriously after that? i had trouble doing so in the book, never mind live action....that said, im still not too sure of the way they did get the ring onto Frodos finger, but as a plus, it does reassert the power of it, even if it was a little clumsy.....
:catz:

Bonos-Girl
July 2nd,2002, 04:57 PM
the way it landed on hius finger was kinda weird and i agree about taking frodo seriously and everything but wouldn't you just lovd to have seen that??? he is serious through the whole thing couldn't we just see a bit of that part of him (i'm not sure what part that is but...)

Mirkgirl
July 2nd,2002, 05:41 PM
well the same Q how the heck can you lose a ring (your only hope to escape) while swimming?!? And the answer is the same all the way - that was not any ring but the One Ring.

And about the Prancing Pony a lot of really good stuff was missed to whine over an absent-minded performance of a hobbit, who has no idea what he's into, who has a golden ringy, which terrifies the mightiest man/wizard he knows, a lil' hobbit left his home and hunted by something big, dark and shapeless and he had some drink and smoke over this and couldn't think of anything "better"!

A! Elbereth
July 2nd,2002, 05:50 PM
I would have been able to take him seriously if they showed that part in the movie... I'm sure that even the most serious people have fun every once in a while!

Pil
July 3rd,2002, 10:46 AM
Exactly...frodo's such a stiff in the film...really annoying. Pip and Merry are a light relief. I THINK however that in the film, if anyone remembers, there is the bit at bilbo's party where he's dancing some weird jig thing...the arms flailing...oh the HORROR!!!! :elfeek:

He does laugh quite a lot at the beginning...but it all goes down hill after that for frodo's humour... :(

A! Elbereth
July 3rd,2002, 09:43 PM
Well what would you do? Depression has HIT! arrrrrrghhh!!!!!

Bonos-Girl
July 4th,2002, 04:18 PM
the dancing is soo amusing, it looked like he was doing an impression of some weird bird...weird....

A! Elbereth
July 4th,2002, 06:04 PM
I didnt pay attention to the dance, just his eyes... :loveyou:

Bonos-Girl
July 4th,2002, 07:51 PM
it's preety hard to notice his eyes when hes walking around like a demented chicken (not that i know what one looks like but....)

A! Elbereth
July 5th,2002, 12:55 AM
*sigh* Does everyone always have to find a way to shatter my dreams? Who cares how he dances.... who cares that they smoke weed.... lets start a new subject please

Bonos-Girl
July 5th,2002, 11:28 AM
i don't care that they smoke weed...who does???

A! Elbereth
July 5th,2002, 02:40 PM
Ok stop!I was just trying to point out that the 'The unique dances of hobbits' was a subject that I would like changed. Do you have to make me wrong or make me sound useless everytime? Just try to stick to the subject and not me. (in a kind way)

Bonos-Girl
July 5th,2002, 07:26 PM
i'm sorry...i got a bit carried away...i'll just shut up now.....

Pil
July 7th,2002, 01:59 PM
DEMENTED CHICKEN....CLASS!!!!!!! lol :thumbs: :cuddles:

Bonos-Girl
July 8th,2002, 01:28 PM
don't end up like my brother please...he says class every minute and it's soooo annoying....

Pil
July 8th,2002, 01:33 PM
I don't say it...you KNOW i don't say it! verymad

It was just...appropriate! lol

Bonos-Girl
July 8th,2002, 04:29 PM
i know....like my awesome on another post.....i would never say that but it worked for the post...

Pil
July 8th,2002, 07:26 PM
roflmao

A! Elbereth
July 9th,2002, 12:18 AM
yeah sry bonos-gril I got more carried away :)

Bonos-Girl
July 9th,2002, 01:31 PM
thats ok

Nessa
July 10th,2002, 06:02 PM
I don't mean to bore anybody, but I thought I'd do this right:
Elijah Wood- I've heard a lot of criticsm (ouch,spelling), but personally I think he was everything he had to be.
Ian Mckellen- Flawless, brilliant!
Sean Bean - Wonderful, he loses points for just looking so ungodly shifty, but he really brought out Boromir's complexities, just a guy with a problem
Cate Blanchett- her acting was fantastic, the freaky possesed glowing green thing(nuclear, now, is It?:) ), not so much.

Pil
July 11th,2002, 12:00 PM
I'm sure the actors did their best to act what was asked of them by PJ, but i thought that gandalf was too...nice...frodo too...helpless... Boromir i can't fault! :thumbs:

Bonos-Girl
July 11th,2002, 12:55 PM
saruman looked way too evil...how could gandalf even think about trusting him...how dumb can you get?????? Boromir always looked evil as well but he was cool so i'll forgive him.

Ilmarė
July 11th,2002, 02:54 PM
*goes up to Nessa and gives her a hug... wiping a tear from her eyes* Thanks Nessa... i knew someone would come in one day.... someone with that special ability... to drag a thread back on track again!!!!
Form now on you will be known as Elf friend!

:elfqueen:

Nessa
July 11th,2002, 03:18 PM
What an honour! Elf-friend, how bout that.
Ahem, anyway, I did think Christopher Lee hammed it up a little, but he's one of the only cast members thats been a Tolkien fan forever, and he should know how to play a bad guy, Right? ;)

Pil
July 11th,2002, 06:28 PM
Yeah! Give saruman guts! :thumbs:

*feels regected* luv the non-elf-friend... :(

Bonos-Girl
July 11th,2002, 06:56 PM
ha ha ha...him in star wars....like sean connery but with sarumans vvoice!!!

Nessa
July 11th,2002, 08:59 PM
[i]Originally posted by Pil [/i

*feels regected* luv the non-elf-friend... :( [/B]

I name you elf-friend! Although I don't think I have that ability.;)

oh yes, the topic:
Viggo Mortensen- hmmmm.... I can't make up my mind about this guy, he looks good but theres something wrong with his voice.

A! Elbereth
July 12th,2002, 01:05 AM
Seriously, I think Viggo Mortenson did the best than all the actors when it came to how he looked, talked - even fought! He made Aragorn so real

Nessa
July 12th,2002, 01:35 AM
Yes, he certainly fit into character, but that nasaly voice grated a little, perhaps I'm being too particular.

Catz
July 12th,2002, 05:02 AM
oh i dunno....i liked Viggos voice....:huh: but thats just a matter of taste i guess.....*grins*....Elf friend.....ooooh youre honoured Nessa....now, doesnt she have to stand up and recite a poem?:naughty: lol ....jes kiddn......
:catz:

A! Elbereth
July 12th,2002, 05:34 AM
I didnt see anything wrong with his voice.... is someone paying a little TOO much attention to the characters? lol lol

Ilmarė
July 12th,2002, 12:42 PM
Ah indeed Nessa..... only i can invoke that priviledge in here... to those i feel are worthy.... as an Elf friend, you'll be entitled to:

1) swoon openly over any Elf you choose..without fear of recrimination

2) vote in the Mr Elf - dom contest ......this year taking place in Mirkwood (please remember to bring your own insect repellent - and LOTS of it)

3) Annual subscription to Ideal Flet

4) Elf mate of the year calendar

5) A chance to date an eminent hottie Elf..... tho, not the Prince of Mirkwood.... he's out of bounds ;)


Oh... and Catz.... you're already an Elf friend... of long standing.... wouldn't send a LOTR easter egg round the world to just anybody, ya know:grin:



:elfqueen:

Pil
July 12th,2002, 12:54 PM
I think to everybody Leggy is out of bounds....there must be little pieces of him locked up all over the world! lol :loveyou: :grin:

Before i begin i would like to say that out of all the characters (minus boromir) i think that aragorn was played by viggo in a way that i had not thought possible! His interpretation really fits the aragorn in the book, though he was still able to make the character his own... ;)

Ok, now the SLIGHT bashing...did anyone else notice how viggo's voice managed to change from nationality to nationality at the beginning of his appearance in the film? It's amusing to listen to if you get the chance to do so soon (you illegal naughties out there! lol) There's everything from an upperclass english toff accent to an amusing bit where he says 'Frodo' in a REALLY STRONG aussie accent! :p

But pil has realised she has missed summut out! To redeem viggo...we all know how last minute his casting was and how hard it must have been to totally secure his character when he was concentrating on the lines and how to wield a sword! Well done viggo! :thumbs: :) :p

Catz
July 12th,2002, 02:51 PM
Awwwww....:embarras: thanks Ilm *catz hugs Ilm*
hey....nice post Pil :thumbs: ...yeah i agree....Viggo did a great job i think....:cool:
:catz:

Nessa
July 12th,2002, 05:51 PM
I'm glad my priveleges have been spelled out llmare. ;)

Though, dare I say it, I tend to lean towards hobbits....

Back on topic: :Orlando Bloom - perfection, really. :p

Pil
July 12th,2002, 06:30 PM
Thanx :catz: (sneaks in a hug too) :cuddles: :p

I think that Viggo DID do an awsome job and that future performances from him should be just as thrilling and inspring. :elfqueen:

orlando bloom is not what i would call perfection, although i can not deny an attraction to the guy, i have always leaned towards elijah...:embarras: :p

legolas, rather orlando bloom, is more perfection... :naughty:

Ilmarė
July 12th,2002, 07:52 PM
Ah Nessa... perfection IS the Elven One.... but i think i can let the remark about the hairy-footed little ones go just this once.....and to be honest... 'Lij is REALLY cute.:naughty: ... in a Hobbity/hairy way.

:elfqueen:

Nessa
July 12th,2002, 10:44 PM
Thanks for the pardon llmare, Frodo does have that elvish light in his eyes. ;)

To further continue the subect of hobbits -
Dominic Monaghan and Billy Boyd as Merry and Pippin- they both made absolutely adorable hobbits (am I pushing it?) and I'm sure they can both handle the slightly more serious situations in the future.

okay Pil, So you're I can't make you an elf-friend, but I can make you an elf-friend-friend! How wonderful for you, right? :)

A! Elbereth
July 13th,2002, 01:21 AM
Obviously Pippin and Merry can be serious - like when they saved Frodo from the Orcs finding him during the Breaking of the Fellowship - but yes llmare - 'Lij IS really cute and well... thats all i can say!

Pil
July 13th,2002, 04:33 PM
Elf firend-friend?! I am honoured! :notworthy: :)

What are people's views on rosie cotton's actress? :p :mmmm:

Nessa
July 14th,2002, 03:42 AM
The actress' name was Sarah McLeod, and its not as if she did much, just a bit of dancing, but I liked her. She's a better dancer than Frodo, in any case. ;)

A! Elbereth
July 14th,2002, 06:53 AM
I supposed your right but you did see Rosie dance for about 15 seconds... when you only saw frodo dance for 1.46 seconds. I think Frodo was stiffed. :o mecry At least he has enough guts to dance with a girl lol :loveyou:

Nessa
July 14th,2002, 02:45 PM
Several girls, actually, there was a whole group....

hee,hee, player ;)

Catz
July 14th,2002, 04:44 PM
Awww i thought Sam being all shy was really cute :cool:
:catz:

Nessa
July 14th,2002, 04:50 PM
I loved his shyness! Very in charector I thought. But I don't recall Frodo ever being such a ladies' man. ;)

A! Elbereth
July 14th,2002, 08:03 PM
I was just saying if Frodo wanted to he would ask her. I'm not saying shyness isnt cute. I think its cute too.

Pil
July 15th,2002, 12:46 PM
Stiffed? :elfeek:

Catz
July 15th,2002, 01:19 PM
:elfeek: thats not what she meant Pil......but lets just not go there, OK? ;) lol roflmao lol
:catz:

Pil
July 15th,2002, 07:53 PM
I CERTAINLEY did NOT wanna go there! I just needed to clear some things up...! lol :grin: :p

i think its a shame that elijah isn't able to show off any 'ladies's man'ness in LOTR...damn frodo the hermit.... roflmao

Nessa
July 17th,2002, 07:08 PM
Topic, anyone?

Have I run out of actors to talk about? Have I mentioned Astin yet?

I will anyway. I thought he made a darling Sam, but that the charactor was terribly under used. I don't think his character had enough impact, but I also don't think it was his fault. I'm sure Sam will stand out more in the next film. ;)

Pil
July 17th,2002, 07:50 PM
He will be given MUCH more opportunities to let his personality shine...snippits of which we are able to see in the breaking of the fellowship in FOTR the movie. :p

A! Elbereth
July 22nd,2002, 02:07 AM
Stiffed means he was ignored!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

Pil you let me down again! We Pervy Hobbit Fanciers should at least understand each other! mecry

oh well I'll live! lol lol

Nessa
July 22nd,2002, 04:17 AM
Hmmm, seems to me thinking "stiffed" was suggestive regarding Frodo is something a Pervy Hobbit Fancier would definately do....;)

A! Elbereth
July 22nd,2002, 04:19 AM
hurmpf..........

Catz
July 22nd,2002, 07:17 AM
lol roflmao roflmao lol ....well you guys do call yourselves pervy hobbit fanciers.....:naughty: lol
:catz:

A! Elbereth
July 22nd,2002, 06:45 PM
If people think stiffed means other than what I said, it must mean they're pervy too. Becuase I meant nothing pervy of it! pfbbt

:rolleyes:

Pil
July 22nd,2002, 06:51 PM
I apoligise for getting confoooosed! :duh:

Now what have i started...? :huh: :( :p

Catz
July 22nd,2002, 11:59 PM
thats OK, Pil.....ive been pervy for years:naughty: lol roflmao lol
:catz:

Nessa
July 23rd,2002, 12:01 AM
No big deal, Pil.

Where's llmare? Think she'll notice her thread was run into the ground? ;)

Illuvatar
July 23rd,2002, 12:06 AM
She may not, but others have.....muahahaha! so here's the topic folks....

The Good, the bad and.....
So...were all the peformances in "The Fellowship of the Ring" excellent or were there any performances you thought weren't up to scratch?
Personally...i thought that Liv's performance was pretty average.

Thanks,
Illu

Nessa
July 23rd,2002, 12:11 AM
Thanks Illuvatar!

I haven't heard any Hugo Weaving (Elrond) discussion....at least I don't recall any. What do you lot think?

Personally, he was a bit to grim for me. Granted, of course, the times were grim, but a touch of warmth might have improved his performance, for me anyway.

A! Elbereth
July 23rd,2002, 04:35 AM
There are 2 words that describe Hugo's performance as Elrond:

DEAD EMOTION!!!!!!!! lol ;)

I think they could have done better - Hugo is one of those people who smile, frown, cry, laugh, and yell with the exact same expression! lol lol sorry i couldnt resist! Because if you watch all the other movies he's in, he must only smile once or twice! sometimes not at all - The Matrix for instance

Nessa
July 23rd,2002, 04:40 AM
The Matrix was rather unfortunate for poor Hugo, I've heard he's quite a good actor, actually. I'm just not impressed with what I've seen so far.

Kimbo Baggins
July 23rd,2002, 06:02 AM
Originally posted by Beregond
No body talks much about Sean Bean (Boromir). I thought he was great in the movie. He always had that glint of evil in him. I thought he had a really good performance at the end. I also thought Liv Tyler's acting was only average. Galadriel was just . . . creepy. For Elrond it just didn't seem right after seeing him as an agent in the Matrix. His face just seems . . .evil. And plus he has a big forehead too. Just thought I'd mention that.

I totally agree with Beregond 100%.....Sean Bean was perfect for Boromir....its just how i pictured him in the book. Galadriel kinda freaked me out and the special effects made it a little cheesy. Liv Tyler's acting was average...**yawn**....Elrond didnt seem right, he looked angry all the time....or something...and yes, his forehead is huge....and all i could think of is the Matrix...like...at any second a bunch of Elrond clones were gonna bust out and start shooting at Isildur when he wouldnt destroy the Ring in the beginning...err...or..during one of Elronds flashbacks...or something...(only saw the movie twice while it was in theatres) :O
Well anyways, i think the casting of Gandalf and the Hobbits and Aragorn was excellent. Merry & pippin were absolutely perfectly played by their actors (in my opinion). Honestly i never imagined Elijah Wood as Frodo, but after seeing the movie i realize it really works, and i cant picture anyone else playing him. Ian Holm was awesome as Bilbo, Viggo was the perfect Aragorn...etc...etc.....thats just what i think anyways...

[and so concludes my useless rambling]veryhappy

A! Elbereth
July 23rd,2002, 06:15 AM
*groans* Elijah Wood is soooooo great! :loveyou:

Catz
July 23rd,2002, 11:27 AM
poor old Hugo....;) did anyone see him in Priscilla? he is an excellent actor...and i have to say, even tho at first sight i didnt like his performance, ive kind of come around on it a bit.....mostly lol
:catz:

Pil
July 23rd,2002, 01:33 PM
If you think about it though...in FOTR, NOT ROTK, would you call Elrond an emotional character (at least visually) anyways? :huh: :read:

A! Elbereth
July 23rd,2002, 05:39 PM
er..... besides the long, braided hair - no

Nessa
July 23rd,2002, 06:18 PM
I guess you have a point, Pil....its just that everyone in the books seemed to have this vision of his kindness and hospitality.....but I guess I'm overspeculating, its just what I do.

A few posts back Kimbo mentioned Sean Bean's excellence. I would just like to second her. At first when I saw him I thought, "Oh gee, could he be a villain?" :rolleyes: But I think he really brought out the character's complications.

Pil
July 23rd,2002, 07:56 PM
seriously? as soon as i saw the guy i was like 'trouble' with a CAPITAL T! :nono: lol

Kimbo Baggins
July 24th,2002, 03:39 AM
Originally posted by Nessa

A few posts back Kimbo mentioned Sean Bean's excellence. I would just like to second her. At first when I saw him I thought, "Oh gee, could he be a villain?" :rolleyes: But I think he really brought out the character's complications.

I knew nothing about Sean Bean as an actor when i first saw FOTR but i was very impressed with his performance, he really DID bring out the characters complications....and i cried during the scene when Boromir dies....after taking like 24986723 arrows to the chest trying to save the hobbits.....**sniff**mecry it was just so beautiful, lol....at that point you kinda feel bad for the character even after hating him through most of the movie because he seemed like a jerk pfbbt , lol
I think LOTR-FOTR was the first movie in a really long time that i cried at.....and i cried when reading the book (TTT and ROTK)....so when the next to movies come out i better bring tissues with me to the theatre...lol...Well anyways...

:thumbs:

Nessa
July 24th,2002, 03:47 AM
I knew of Sean Bean, but I never expected him to give such a performance.

His interaction with Frodo is actually the part where I sat up and noticed him. He and an excellently subtle Elijah Wood made that scene my favorate.

A! Elbereth
July 24th,2002, 03:56 AM
Yes I unusually like that part alot - I just find their interaction so interesting :loveyou: Frodo looks so cute when he runs away :loveyou: *now that was evil*

Kimbo Baggins
July 24th,2002, 03:57 AM
Yeah the Frodo and Boromir scene was excellent, they worked greatly together. I think i first noticed Boromir when he and Aragorn were in Rivendell before the Council of Elrond though. He really made you think "wow this guy is going to be trouble" lol...and then when Boromir gets the Ring (before Moria) and he stands there looking at it before giving it back to Frodo, you are just kinda holding your breath because you simply dont trust this character....its great. I think in that respect, Sean Bean is very talented, to be able to instill that breathlessness in his audience.
Elijah, (like i said before) was the perfect actor for Frodo. I cant picture anyone else. I think it will be very interesting to see Elijah's acting as Frodo's character develops in the next two movies....i think we will really get to see his talent shine. :)

Nessa
July 24th,2002, 04:05 AM
The thing about Wood is even though I've seen almost all of his movies and appreciate his range... I cannot imagine him acting as Frodo after he claims the ring...I cannot picture that sweet face reflecting evil...

The even stranger thing is I have no doubt in him....odd.

A! Elbereth
July 24th,2002, 04:06 AM
ah yes! :loveyou: I know! I've never seen him look mad (as in crazy) This is going to be very interesting! I cant WAIT! WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Kimbo Baggins
July 24th,2002, 04:14 AM
Originally posted by Nessa
The thing about Wood is even though I've seen almost all of his movies and appreciate his range... I cannot imagine him acting as Frodo after he claims the ring...I cannot picture that sweet face reflecting evil...

The even stranger thing is I have no doubt in him....odd.

Oh i have no doubt either. I know he can do it, it will be great too. I have also seen almost all of his movies too, and that is why i never pictured him as Frodo until i saw FOTR. After seeing that, i have no doubts at all. It will be good. He (Elijah) is so talented...Frodo is a complex character to play.:thumbs:

A! Elbereth
July 24th,2002, 04:20 AM
*SMILES so big that the face isnt visible* :) :) :) AHHHHHHH OOOOOOOO I like what I hear! Is it just me, or am I the only one who is drooling all over the thread? :loveyou:

Kimbo Baggins
July 24th,2002, 04:27 AM
Originally posted by A! Elbereth
*SMILES so big that the face isnt visible* :) :) :) AHHHHHHH OOOOOOOO I like what I hear! Is it just me, or am I the only one who is drooling all over the thread? :loveyou:

Uhm, well i'd drool all over the thread but it'd be kinda messy....but heres a little secret: (i worship Elijah too) so you can always count on Wood-friendly threads from me roflmao :)

A! Elbereth
July 24th,2002, 04:29 AM
*drools too much to say anything*:loveyou:

Elijah------->:smooch:<--------me------>:cuddles:

Black Rider
July 24th,2002, 04:55 AM
you guys are so nuts! all i have to say is that i really enjoyed Elijah's performance and i hope this trillogy doesnt turn him into one of those guys that gets typecasted all over hollywood.

p.s. orli is hotter ;)

Kimbo Baggins
July 24th,2002, 04:58 AM
Originally posted by A! Elbereth
*drools too much to say anything*:loveyou:

Elijah------->:smooch:<--------me------>:cuddles:

lol....i love it....thats almost naughty....:naughty: lol...those smileys....hmmm....erm....anyways....**slaps herself**....stares at Lij pics....:loveyou: **sigh**....anyways....

A! Elbereth
July 24th,2002, 05:01 AM
ohhhh I dont care if you think Orli is hotter. The point is: I think Elijah is very talented, cute and oooo can't say any more without drooling! :loveyou: Its all that matters to me

But if i want to be depressed, all I have to think of is how I will always admire this guy, but will most likely never in my life see him, wave to him, write to him.... he will never know about me..... the only way its possible is if I become a great actress! *HAHAHAHAHAHAHA IN MY DREAMS!* lol lol roflmao

Black Rider
July 24th,2002, 05:02 AM
doesnt he seem to all of you a bit, well, like he's eleven?

just asking... ::dodges swings at head::

A! Elbereth
July 24th,2002, 05:03 AM
no not really........... we should get back to the subject before i hurt you... hehe lol

Nessa
July 24th,2002, 05:04 AM
No, ladies, no! I didn't want swoonieness in here because I want viewers to know we can seriously appreciate Elijah as an actor!!!

*pouts*

Oh well.

P.S. Black Rider I feel inclined to disagree about your previous comment. May I quote, "orli is hotter." If you'd like to *discuss* it, PM me, I'm always in the mood for a friendly argument - er, debate. ;) (Just Kidding)

Kimbo Baggins
July 24th,2002, 05:07 AM
Originally posted by Black Rider
doesnt he seem to all of you a bit, well, like he's eleven?

just asking... ::dodges swings at head::

(black rider):evil: :battle: (me) lol....j/k...

A! Elbereth
July 24th,2002, 05:08 AM
I agree

Kimbo Baggins
July 24th,2002, 05:14 AM
Originally posted by Black Rider
you guys are so nuts! all i have to say is that i really enjoyed Elijah's performance and i hope this trillogy doesnt turn him into one of those guys that gets typecasted all over hollywood.

p.s. orli is hotter ;)

rotflmao WOOD IS GOOD, Wood is way hotter....lol....

But on a serious note, i dont think Lij will be one of those guys...i dunno why but i just dont picture it...:thumbs:

Nessa
July 24th,2002, 05:19 AM
I don't see why Wood should be typecast. He's been around long enough and had those one or two critically acclaimed performances that should keep him safe from that. I've been following his career for quite a while now and I just don't see it happening, or at least I really hope not.

Now, anyone mind if I progress to someone less swoon-inducing? Ian Holm! Brilliant performance!

A! Elbereth
July 24th,2002, 05:20 AM
"He's the first actor I've worked with that I think is really an actor, he's not tied to his cuteness." --Director Jon Avnet on working with Wood, Entertainment Weekly

Kimbo Baggins
July 24th,2002, 05:28 AM
Originally posted by Nessa

Now, anyone mind if I progress to someone less swoon-inducing? Ian Holm! Brilliant performance!

Aww but i was having fun swOoning....pfbbt ...oh well...on to bigger things...Ian Holm!! I agree with Nessa 100%. He was THE PERFECT Bilbo Baggins :thumbs: :thumbs: :)

Nessa
July 24th,2002, 05:33 AM
Thank You, Kimbo. Sorry to ruin everyone's fun but I thik there's a time and a place for swooning, and its just not here.

Ian Holm was marvelous, wasn't he? He fit so perfectly into the role....having to cover such a range of emotions in such a short time.... brilliant. :)

Kimbo Baggins
July 24th,2002, 05:39 AM
Originally posted by Nessa
Thank You, Kimbo. Sorry to ruin everyone's fun but I thik there's a time and a place for swooning, and its just not here.

Ian Holm was marvelous, wasn't he? He fit so perfectly into the role....having to cover such a range of emotions in such a short time.... brilliant. :)

No problem,

Ian Holm=100% pure Bilbo....he is very talented...and no one could have played Bilbo better. :cool:

Catz
July 24th,2002, 10:08 AM
Mmmmm and an especially good performance when you consider that he and McKellen never shot a scene together....they were shot seperately and then edited together, tho youd never guess it from the final product....:cool:
:catz:

Pil
July 24th,2002, 10:24 AM
WOAH! I'm a bit out of breath after reading ALL THOSE posts! This thread is all soggy! :o pfbbt

It would have been nice to see more of the gollum/bilbo flashbacks...we got a very limited glance at 'the hobbit' don't you think? Ian Holm could have done a lot more! :thumbs:

Nessa
July 24th,2002, 03:17 PM
I'm sure he could have... but thier attempt to make him look younger...lol

"Get him a shaggier wig! Thats all he needs!"

:)

A! Elbereth
July 24th,2002, 09:01 PM
Bilbo and Gandalf were too in the same shot - remember when they were smoking weed before the party? They were sitting together in the same shot....... I could also name a few others

Nessa
July 25th,2002, 12:42 AM
Thats true, Elbereth (congratulations for proving :catz: wrong, it is feat few can accomplish ;) ),

but I think she was talking about the rather breathtaking scenes in Bag End between Bilbo and Gandalf, when they had to interact so much.

When Gandalf is trying to convince Bilbo to leave the ring for Frodo is one of my favorate bits, so heartfelt.

Catz
July 25th,2002, 01:48 AM
yeah...those were the scenes i meant Nessa.....sorry to not be clear....tho im not sure about those others.....im pretty sure that they never actually shot any together....if you look, i dont think theres ever a moment when you see both actors clearly, full face....but i might be wrong there....i know Ian Holm didnt come to NZ for any of the shoots, tho that doesnt mean anything really...:grin:
:catz:

A! Elbereth
July 25th,2002, 01:54 AM
hmmmmmmmmm

Nessa
July 25th,2002, 02:07 AM
Well, they'll be plenty of chances to find out in only two weeks....;)

legolaslover
July 30th,2002, 07:34 PM
Celeborn suxs.

A! Elbereth
July 30th,2002, 07:49 PM
!?!?! what was that :elfeek: very random lol

Nessa
July 30th,2002, 07:59 PM
Random, but soooo true. lol

Honestly, though, Haldir at least provided everyone with a laugh, whereas Celeborn was just annoying.

HobbitFriend
July 30th,2002, 08:51 PM
:thumbs: *agrees*

ArwenLiz
August 1st,2002, 07:08 AM
Yes, I must say that Celeborn really 'did in' the whole Lothlorien scene....speaking of which, I never pictured it purple...very disappointing.

Anyways, not many here have said much about Ian Mckellan. I think he was brilliant and cheated out of an Oscar. I was so concerned that he would be somewhat like Dumbledore in Harry Potter...ah...how I loved Harry Potter so much: and then there was Dumbledore....I want to cry.mecry

Anyways...my fav. actors had to have been: Ian McKellan, Elijah Wood, Viggo Mortensen, and Sean Bean. They were all so perfect. And I must applaud Viggo for picking up on his character so well with such short notice - never mind the accent - and Elijah Wood...I was amazed. Sean Bean really showed how Boromir really came around to Aragorn and in the scene with Frodo, after Frodo leaves, how it was the ring driving him to madness. Just...brillant.

My goal if I become famous...to meet Elijah Wood and arrange something for A! Elbereth.

ArwenLiz

A! Elbereth
August 1st,2002, 07:29 AM
Would you really!? *stares up into the sky* If only..... It would be a dream come true! :loveyou:

I wouldnt know how to repay you! Not all the money in the world could repay a favor like that!

Catz
August 3rd,2002, 08:17 AM
*catz shoves a mattress behind A!Elbereth and waits for the thud*:naughty: ;) lol lol
:catz:

A! Elbereth
August 3rd,2002, 06:32 PM
hmmmmm.......pfbbt pfbbt pfbbt

Nice to see you too, Catz! lol

Catz
August 4th,2002, 02:19 AM
*catz looks up from putting the drool proof cover on the mattress*
A!Elbereth!!.....im wounded!!! mecry ;) :rolleyes:lol and all i was doing was making sure you didnt hurt yourself if you were overcome by the thought of the hairy footed one....strange tho that thought may be :naughty: lol
lol lol
(the tears are just a bit too much arent they? mmmmm yeah, youre right.....heheh)
:catz:

A! Elbereth
August 4th,2002, 02:23 AM
yes, yes... i just didnt want to admit I needed back-up while i swooned :loveyou:

Pil
August 14th,2002, 02:26 PM
We've all hit the deck at one point or another....be it in the cinema....a video rental shop....a supermarket....all places where the power of the one with the blue eyes can overcome the concept of balance.

Dontya just LOVE the bit in BAGENDERS when they say that merry (?) was having trouble with the concept of floor and standing...or summut like that...anyway...he was smashed! :beer: