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Saruman
March 31st,2005, 11:12 AM
This has only occured to me just now, but if a Hobbit movie is made, wouldn't it be nice to have little people playing the principal characters? If they could find enough actors of the right size, I think it could work. I also think that Warwick Davies, who starred in the film 'Willow', would be an excellent choice for Bilbo.

Aragorn Isildur
March 31st,2005, 06:42 PM
Hmm...No. Its a sensitive question but I think it just wouldnt look right. Hobbits are in proportion to Men.

Aragorn :king:

Manveri Silverleaf
April 1st,2005, 08:52 PM
Scale doubles might be needed, for example Bilbo in comparison to Gandalf, but I hope they bring both Ians back for The Hobbit. Or for Bilbo someone who looks like him. Anything else just won't be the same.

Sirion
April 1st,2005, 11:35 PM
Hmm...No. Its a sensitive question but I think it just wouldnt look right. Hobbits are in proportion to Men.

Aragorn :king:
I totally agree with you, Aragorn Isildur. Not that I have something against people like Mr Davies, but it really wouldn't look good. When I saw Willow (only recently) I couldn't help it, but I said to myself that the movie showed exactly how The Hobbit should not look like.

Manveri Silverleaf
April 2nd,2005, 12:25 AM
Well I think PJ will create the same Shire as he did in the trilogy, but personally I'd really like to see Ian come back as Bilbo. To me no one else can do it.

Aragorn Isildur
April 2nd,2005, 01:47 AM
It'd be nice for Ian to come back as Bilbo but I just cant see how they could make him look young enough for it. Remember that Bilbo is not much older than Frodo at the end of LoTR during The Hobbit.

Aragorn :king:

Manveri Silverleaf
April 2nd,2005, 03:13 AM
They did it in FoTR...

Cassandria
April 2nd,2005, 03:20 AM
I think they should find an unknown actor that resembles Ian well enough to pull it off. I just don't think Ian could look young enough. And I agree...they should use scale doubles, like PJ did...little people just wouldn't work for me. They would look like Munchkins or Umpa Lumpas...but not Hobbits. :mmmm:

Manveri Silverleaf
April 2nd,2005, 03:34 AM
I still say they could, but an actor who closely resembles him could work too. But Sir Ian is an absolute must.

Aragorn Isildur
April 3rd,2005, 05:47 PM
I think they've slipt up really. Having the finding of the ring by Bilbo in the prologue has sort of made it hard to cast anyone else as Bilbo, and thinking about it, he looked too old to me in that scene :huh:

Aragorn :king:

Manveri Silverleaf
April 3rd,2005, 10:32 PM
I think they've slipt up really. Having the finding of the ring by Bilbo in the prologue has sort of made it hard to cast anyone else as Bilbo, and thinking about it, he looked too old to me in that scene :huh:

Aragorn :king:

Well who's to really say how a hobbit at Bilbo's age would look like? It's never actually described what a hobbit looked like at such an age, so really it's up in the air

Saruman
April 8th,2005, 11:46 PM
My reasoning behind the suggestion is that they use little people for the long shots; why not for the close-ups? As they are in the films they just seem like ordinary humans in the close-ups; I felt that they were seperate entities to those in the long shots. It just seems to be unnecessary hassle to have two actors; having one would make the peformance more consistant.

Guilaeyos
April 9th,2005, 03:32 AM
I don't think that they should use little people. When you talk about how little people are shaped, they look different from what Bilbo and all of the other folks did in the three movies.

I just don't think that it would give the same effect.

The Silmarillion
April 10th,2005, 02:36 AM
That's an interesting question.

I would agree with the other opinions. There is also Gandalf appearing.

The Hobbits in comparison with the Dwarves would be the less important problem!

Manveri Silverleaf
April 12th,2005, 01:43 AM
My reasoning behind the suggestion is that they use little people for the long shots; why not for the close-ups? As they are in the films they just seem like ordinary humans in the close-ups; I felt that they were seperate entities to those in the long shots. It just seems to be unnecessary hassle to have two actors; having one would make the peformance more consistant.

I don't think consistency is a problem. There was no such problem in the trilogy where scale was considered.