Anyone know any Black Speech?

[Tar-Ancalimë]

Besides, of caurse, "Ash nazg," &c. Everyone knows that.

I really want to know more about it but, well, I can't find ANYTHING! verymad

[Wilwarin]

I know what you mean! verymad

I don't think there is really very much of the Black Speach invented. There are some words in "The Languages of Tolkien's Middle-earth" by Ruth S. Noel. But not very many, and most of the time it doesn't say what they mean.

[Tar-Ancalimë]

Hmmm... but how did they did the muttering of the ring and stuff in the movie? And when Sauron is giving instructions to Saruman: "build me an army..." and when he talks to Frodo: "There is no life in the void..." ?

It all sounds very cool. The only Black Speech in the books is that bit about "ash nazg" when Gandalf says it in the OCuncil, right?

[Catz]

ok...well there is this (http://www.uib.no/People/hnohf/orkish.htm) article on Ardalambion.....it has a black speech list of words...there is also at least one other article on the site on Orcish and Black speech
Hope thats of help
:catz:

[Eowyn]

interesting!

[Tar-Ancalimë]

Thanks... that helped me go quite a bit further... I couldn't find that site when I searched the web. :( Maybe I'm stupid.

[Catz]

well for anyone interested in the Languages of ME Ardalambion would have to be the first stop site....great articles and info and lots of links to further sites....for anyone who hasnt come across it go here.... Ardalambion (http://www.uib.no/People/hnohf/index.html)
excellent resource.....and doesnt just have elvish but also the mannish tongues, black speech and even a little dwarvish
:catz:

[Tar-Ancalimë]

:)

[Ghâsh]

I have that same list of words on my computer.

[Tar-Ancalimë]

which words

[Ghâsh]

The ones on the link Catz posted.

[Tar-Ancalimë]

oh... yeah, but what I want to know is what did they use for the movie?

[A! Elbereth]

i cannot speak the black speech - but I can write it! :flamer: :evilcool: :elfeek: lol

[Ghâsh]

Were'd you learn it from Elbereth?

[Orc]

As I under stand it, the Black Speach is limited to the words found in LotR, as Tolkien did not like the language and never developed it beyond what was needed for his story.

[A! Elbereth]

Well, I can write in both Tengwar and Cursive Tengwar - tengwar is what is on the ring, and in which case is the language of Mordor.

[Tar-Ancalimë]

i thought... never mind. i'm sure you're right.

but no ones answered my real question yet:
WHAT DID THEY DO FOR THE MOVIE????????/

[Catz]

they did what any language scholar would do...they extrapolated using words already formed and corrupted versions of Quenya...using the words already in the lexicon, it is possible to build other words....but this is a long process...and very complicated...
and Tengwar isnt a language....its a script.....you can write English words in Tengwar script...that doesnt stop them being English
:catz:

[Isiltári]

Well said, Catz. It's almost a pity that Quenya wasn't the main spoken language of the third age -- they would have had a much easier time with tranlations than they did with Sindarin.

[Tar-Ancalimë]

oh. thanks. well. i just like the sounds in the movie and wanted to know more. :(
oh well thx anyway

[Orkybash]

At the Council of Elrond, the ring does the "Ash Nazg..." thing. All the other times it either just kinda whispers (nothing coherent, so it could be anything), says someone's name, or just speaks English!

[Celebriel_Esgaledhel]

Suilad, mellyn
Tolkien had very little information on his Black Speech, so you can't really learn the language. The stuff they used in the movie(s) was made up by an expert on Tolkien's languages, and s/he(I can't remember who it was) created the stuff they needed based on what information was already given by Tolkien, and then constructed the rest on it.
Cuio mae

[Catz]

the main language scholar was David Salo.....one of the leading authorities on the Languages of ME
:catz:

[Þéodric Lýtelhús]

today on ringbearer i coincidentally saw the same question...
a copy of my post:






Imrazôr
Bewildered Hobbit of BagEnd
Joined: 28 Sep 2002
Posts: 18

Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2002 12:39 pm Post subject:

I'm really sorry but all you can learn from Black Speech are those 2 sentences in LotR, being the Ring Inscription Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul, ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul! and, in TTT where Merry & Pippin are carried through Rohan, Uglúk u bagronk sha pushdug Saruman-glob búbhosh skai! (This quote has two different translations: in PM:83, this is translated "Uglúk to the cesspool, sha! the dungfilth; the great Saruman-fool, skai!"; Elsewhere: : Uglúk to the dung-pit with stinking Saruman-filth, pig-guts, gah!)


But if you don't care whether it is RealTolkienBlackSpeech or not, here I found a post with a RPG wordlist, which has nothing to do with Tolkien as I said, but you could use it for the lackings if you do really need something.


A
aan sun (noun) LOS (<Quenya anar)
aaps meat (noun) LOS (<Quenya apsa)
aar early (adv) LOS (<Quenya arinya)
aarsh day (noun) LOS
aarûrz soon (adj) LOS
af- throw, cast (verb) LOS
agh and TK
ak- cut or stab (verb) LOS (<Quenya ecet, "short stabbing sword"
akash half LOS
akashuga hobbit, "halfling" (noun) LOS (< ak + ash + uga, = one who was cut in half)
akashuga-hai hobbit-people LOS
akh, akh- 1. yes 2. agree (verb) LOS
akhoth "Yes, Sir!" (said to a superior officer in the orc army)
akhum agreement (noun) LOS
akr- drink (verb) LOS
akrum drink (noun, as in an alcoholic drink) LOS
akrûrz drunk (adj) LOS
amal where (relative) EL [where the shadows . . .]
amat why (relative) LOS [explain why you did that]
amol how (relative) LOS [he told me how to do it]
amirz who (relative) LOS [the person who . . . ]
amukh when (relative) LOS [when we were . . .]
amut which (relative) LOS [the knife, which I broke . . .]
aquu- bribe (verb) LOS
aquum bribe (noun) LOS
ats- catch (verb) LOS (< Quenya, atsa)
ash one TK
auru few (adj) LOS
az- kill (verb) (LOS)
Azog PN an orc-leader of Moria (LOTR III p441; TH (not 1st edition))
(therefore, Azog means "Man-killer," Azat + ogh, man)


B
baab pipe (noun) RE
baabghûd pipeweed (noun) RE
baal breed (verb) LOS
baalum breed (noun) LOS
baalak half-breed LOS
baduzg- reveal, show (verb) LOS
badz an opening (noun) RE
badz- open (verb) RE
badzûrz open (adj) RE,
bag excrement or dung (noun) TK
bagronk 1. dung-pit (noun) TK 2. cess-pool, (noun) TK (DBS)
bhadûr a change (noun) RE, to change (verb) RE
bhûl- accept (verb) LOS
bidroi revenge (noun) LOS 7N
blord- weep (verb) LOS
Bolg PN an orc-leader (son of Azog), slain by Beorn (TH p293)
brus- have (verb) LOS
bûb pig (noun) (DBS) TK
bûbhosh 1. pig-guts TK, 2. great TK
bugd- call (verb) LL
bugud name (noun) RE
bûrgu shadows (noun, plural) EL
bûrz dark (adj) TK, 2. night (noun) AA
bûrzum 1. darkness (noun) TK,


D
dalg- rid, clear out, remove (verb) LOS
dalgum garbage, trash (noun) LOS
darg blunt (adj) LOS
daur cage (noun) LOS
dhaar rank, grade, status (e.g., Army rank) (noun) LOS
dhaaryonk promotion (noun) LOS
dhak ceremony (noun) LOS
-dhog near, next to (prep) LOS
dhurz because (conj) LOS
dhûl- sleep (verb) LOS
dhûrum secret (noun) LOS
dhûrz secret (adj) LOS
diis- attack (verb) LOS
diisum attack (noun) LOS
dik- capture (verb) LOS
dursh bridge (noun) LOS
draagh hammer (noun) RE
duf knife (noun) LOS
dulg- point (verb) LOS <RE
dulug 1. point (noun) 2. weapon (noun) RE
dûmp- doom (verb) EL
dur large, big (adj) LOS
durb- rule (verb) TK
durbûrz strong (adj) LOS
durub ruler (noun) EL
durlob female ruler (noun) LOS
durt certain, sure (adj) LOS
dush (probably means sorcery) (noun) TK, AA
dush- to make magic, to cast a spell on someone (verb) LOS
dushûrz magical (adjective) LOS
Dushgoi PN Minas Morgul (SD) TK
Dushgoizagh Morgul Pass (PN) AA


F
faal beach, shore (noun) LOS (<Quenya falas)
faash accident (noun) LOS
faasharz accidentally (adverb) LOS
fauth- lie hidden, hide (verb) EL
fauthûrz hidden (adj) LOS
fiil bird (noun) LOS (<Quenya filik)
fiith- hold (verb) LOS
fik bad (adj) LOS (< Quenya feg, bad)
fil cave (noun) LOS (< Quenya felya)
flûst celebrate (verb)(as in, evil deed or victory) LOS
folok hoard (noun) LOS 7N
folk- hoard (verb) LOS 7N
frûz lazy, irresponsible (adj) LOS
fulg- to dwell (verb) RE
fulug dwelling RE
fûr- lie (as in, tell an untruth) (verb) LOS (< Quenya, fu'ru)
fûsh slow (adj) LOS
fûth- awaken (verb) LOS (Note: don't use the preposition "up," as in English)
fûthûrz awake (adj) LOS


G
gaakh let it be that, may it be that (< Quenya `nai') AN [Gaakh uruk-hai azubulûk! = may the uruk-hai kill them all! LOS]
gai- chain [as in, chain up] (verb) LOS (< Quenya Angainur)
gaium chain (noun) LOS
gakh three EL
gal ten LOS
gazat dwarf, dwarves (noun) EL
ghaamp earth (noun) LOS
ghaampronk mine, cellar (noun) LOS
ghaash fire (noun) TK
ghaash- burn (verb) LOS
ghaashug flaming, burning (present participle) LOS
Ghaash PN an orc of Kirith Ungol
ghaashum heat (noun) LL
ghashan word, command (noun) RE
ghashanuz story, tale LOS
ghashdurb- swear (verb) (< ghash, to speak + durb, strong) LOS
ghashkrum answer (noun) (< ghash + krum, back, n.) LOS
ghashkrut- answer (verb) (< ghash + krut, back) LOS
ghashn- speak, tell, command (verb) RE
ghaur- roast (verb) LOS
ghûd weed (noun) RE
gimb- find (verb) TK
gimub Discovery, the thing found (noun) RE
gimbuga found (participle) LOS
glob 1. filth (noun) (DBS) TK, 2. fool TK
glob- to fool someone (verb) LOS
globlob female fool (noun) LOS
globûrz 1. filthy (adj) 2. foolish (adj) LOS
glok- bite (verb)
goi (probably means "city" ) TK, AA
Golfimbul PN leader of orcs of Mount Gram, slain at Greenfields (TH)
Golug elf, elves (noun) TK (Angband Orkish (without suffix) for "Noldor" pl.)
gorûrz tough (adj) LOS
Gorbag PN an orc-leader of Minas Morgul, killed by Shagrat (LOTR III)
(so his name probably means "Tough @#%$"
goth 1. lord, master (AO in Gothmog and Morgoth from 1930's in BOLT II p67)
2. enemy (Silmarillion)
gothlob Queen (noun), LOS
Gothmog PN (see `goth') ("Lord-Voice" TK
gothûrz powerful (adj) LOS
grish blood (noun) LOS
grish- bleed (verb) LOS
grishûrz bloody (adj) LOS
Grishnaakh PN an orc of Mordor, slain by Rohirrim (LOTR II 437) ("Blood Hand"
gund stone (noun) EL
gund- stand (verb) RE
gundul guard (noun) LOS
gundul- guard (verb) LOS
gûl wraith (noun) TK
gûth almost (adverb) LOS


H
hag unpleasant man (noun) LOS
haglob unpleasant female (noun) LOS
hanrun spy (noun) LOS RF
has- beg (verb) LOS
hasum plea (noun) LOS
hau beggar (noun) LOS
hiil- follow (verb) LOS (< Quenya hilya)
hiis quick, fast (adj) LOS
hiist- send (verb) LOS
hon- watch (verb) LOS
hont eye (noun) LOS (< Quenya hend, "eye"
hontum glance, look (noun) LOS
horn beast or animal (noun) LOS
hornfik monster (noun) LOS
hosh guts (intestines, viscera) (noun) (DBS) TK
hûr courage, bravery (noun) LOS
hûr- dare (verb) LOS
hûrûrz brave (adj) LOS

I
iin- remember (verb ) (< Quenya enyal)
iist- know (verb) LOS (< Quenya ista)
iis- begin (verb) LOS (< Quenya yesse')
-ik before (prep) LOS
ikh- force (verb) LOS
ikhûrz forceful (adj) LOS
ilz star (noun) LOS (< Quenya elen)
ilzkaal starlight (noun) LOS
-ir on (prep) LOS
irz- run (verb) LOS
ish enemy (noun) LOS
-it behind (prep) LOS
-izg suffix indicating "I"
-izish suffix indicating "me" (LOS)
-izishu suffix indicating "us" (LOS)
-izub suffix indicating "mine" or "my" (LOS)
-izubu suffix indicating "our" or "ours" (LOS)


K
kaal light (noun) LOS (< Quenya cala)
kaal- light (verb) LOS
kaam bed (noun) LOS (< Quenya caima)
kaar head (noun) LOS (< Quenya ca'r)
kaat lie (verb, as in "lie down) (< Quenya caita)
kau against LOS
khak coffee (noun) LOS
Khamûl PN second in command in the Nazgûl TK
khlaar- hear (verb) LOS (< Quenya hlar)
khlaarum sound (noun) LOS
khlaat ear (noun) LOS
khûr- rip, tear (verb) LOS (< Quenya kho'r)
kol carry (verb) LOS (< Quenya col-)
krak five LL
kraat away (adj) LOS
krai- feel (verb) LOS
kramp- do (verb) LOS
krampum duty, task, chore (noun) LOS
krank father (noun) LOS
krank- father (verb) LOS
kranklob mother (noun) LOS
kranklûb sister ("fatherdaughter" LOS
kranklûk brother ("fatherson" LOS
krimp rope (noun) RE
krimp- bind (verb) TK
krith nine EL
krul two (LOS)
krum back (noun) LOS
-krut back (preposition) LOS
kû 1. old, 2. long time (LOS)
kûf ugly (adj) LOS
kul- is (verb) LOS
kun- bend (verb) LOS (< Quenya cúna)
kunum bend (noun) LOS
kur ball (noun) LOS (< Quenya coro)
kurn around (adj) LOS (<Quenya corna)


L
-la after (preposition) LOS
-lab suffix indicating your or yours (<lat + -ob) RE
lag- to break (verb) LOS
Lagduf PN an orc of Cirith Ungol, killed by Morgul Orcs (LOTR III 222) ("Knife-breaker"
lagûrz broken (adj) LOS
lat you AN
lata- under (prep) EL
liik candle (noun) LOS (< Quenya, lícuma)
lik barrel, cask (LOS)
loik corpse (noun) LOS (< Quenya loico)
lorz stupid (adj) LOS
lug tower (noun) TK
lugbûrzum (noun) the very dark patch of dark around Barad-dûr AA
Lugbûrz PN Barad-dûr TK
Lugdush PN an orc of Isengard, slain by Rohirrim (LOTR II) ("Tower Sorcery"
Lughorn PN an orc, >> `Lagduf' (SD p26) ("Tower Beast"
lûb daughter (noun) LOS
lûk son (noun) LOS (Ashlûk = "One Son"
lûmp- to fall (verb) LOS
lûnt boat (noun) (<Quenya luntë
lûr gold (noun) LOS (< Quenya laurie')
lûrûrz golden (adj) LOS
-lût out (prep) LOS

[Þéodric Lýtelhús]

M
m- root of interrogative words EL
mal where? (interrog) EL
maarubh law (noun) RE
maarbh- 1. to make a law or a rule, 2. to levy a ransom, tax, or tribute (verb) RE
mat- die (verb) EL
matuga dying (participle) LOS
matum death (noun) LOS
matûrz 1. mortal (adj) EL 2. dead LOS
mau warrior(s), soldier(s) (noun) LOS
maubûr orc company of 100 soldiers, led by sergeant LOS
maudhûl camp, bivouac LOS
maufulug barracks (noun) LOS
Maugoth General (commands several orc armies) LOS
Mauhûr PN an orc of Isengard, slain by Rohirrim (LOTR II) ("Brave Warrior"
mauk- fight (verb) LOS
maukum fight (noun) = fistfight, LOS
maukûrz scrappy, prone to fight (adj) LOS
Mautor Lieutenant (commands an army of 1000 orcs) LOS
mazauk war (noun) LOS (< mau + az-)
mazauk- make or declare war (verb) LOS
mi cat noun) LOS
mirz who? (interrog) LOS
mirzob whose? (interrog) (<mirz = -ob) LOS
mog voice (AO in `Gothmog' 1930's in LR p406) TK
mok- hate (verb) LOS
mokum hatred (noun) LOS
mokûrz hateful (adj)
mol how? (interrog) RE
mor black (adj) LOS
morûrz hard (adj) LOS
Morgoth PN (see `goth') (elsewhere treated as Sindarin) (Name probably means "Hard Lord"
mukh when? (interrog) LOS
mûl road (noun) LOS (< Quenya malle')
mum- mar, mark (verb) RE
murûk bear (noun) LOS (< Quenya, Morok)
mut which? (interrog)
mûz bread (noun) LOS (< Quenya masta)
muzûrz hot (adj) LOS
Muzgaash PN an orc of Kirith Ungol, killed by Morgul Orcs (LOTR III 222) ( "Hot Fire"


N
naakh hand (noun) LOS
naan but, although LOS (< Quenya nan)
nar 1. not LOS, AA 2. expression of contempt (RE)
narash nothing LOS
nardur small (adj) LOS
narfik not bad (adj) LOS
narghaash cold (adj) LOS (nar + ghaash, not hot)
nariin- forget (verb) LOS (< nar + iin, remember, from Quenya enyal)
narish ally, allies (noun) (nar + ish, enemy)
narkramp- refuse (verb) LOS (nar + kramp-, not do)
narkû never AN
narmok- like (verb, < nar + mok, not hate) LOS
narnûlubat Orcish way of expressing thanks ("I will not hurt you"
nartul not here, absent (adj) LOS
nartum absence (noun) LOS
nau end (noun) LOS
nazg ring (noun) TK
Nazgûl Ring-wraith (noun) TK (< `nazg + guul')
nazt- sting (verb) LOS (< Quenya nasta)
nazt sting (noun) LOS
niin water (noun) LOS (< Quenya ne'n)
nork- take (verb) LOS
nûl pain (noun) LOS (< Quenya, nwalya)
nûl- hurt (verb) LOS
nûrz hostile, angry (adj) LOS
nûrzum anger, wrath (noun) LOS
nûst beget (verb) (<Quenya, nosta)
nût sky (noun) EL

O
oghor Drûadan (noun) TK (AO)
olog Mordor light-tolerant troll (noun) TK
orsk- steal (verb) LOS


P
paash- is able to, can (verb) LOS
paashnar cannot (verb) LOS
paashum ability (noun) LOS
piil arrow (noun) LOS (< Quenya pilim)
pilik axe (noun) LOS ( <Quenya pelecco)
piz arm (noun) LOS
piz- arm (verb) LOS
pizbûr sergeant (commands company of 100 soldiers) LOS
pizdur Captain in orc army (commands 5 companies) LOS
pizgal corporal in orc army (commands troop of 10 soldiers) LOS
piztor army (noun) LOS (< piz + tor, 1000) LOS
pizumu arms (plural noun: an army's weapons; dulug refers to a single weapon ) LOS
pizurk soldier, private in an orc regiment (< piz + uruk)
prakh- lure (verb) LL
pu mouth (noun) LOS (< Quenya pe = mouth)
pul- copulate (verb) LOS FLE
pûlp- beat (verb) LOS
pûlpum drum (noun) LOS
pushdug 1. stinking (adj. or participle) (DBS) TK 2. dung-filth TK
puzg- stop (verb) LOS (< Quenya pusta)

Q
quiin bow (weapon) (noun) LOS (<Quenya quinga)


R
rad now, immediately, yet LOS
rat ransom, loot, or booty (noun) LOS
Radbug PN an orc of Minas Morgul, killed by Shagrat (LOTR III) ("Calls Now"
rau ale, beer (noun) LOS
raulik beerbarrel (Noun) LOS
-ri between (prep) LOS
riink- shake (verb) (< Quenya, rince')
ronk 1. pit 2. pool (TK, LOS)
ronkûrz deep (adj) LOS
rûk horse (noun) (<Quenya rocco)
rûk- ride (verb)
rut six LOS
ru hall (noun) LOS


S
saar bitter (adj) LOS (<Quenya sara)
Saruman PN the wizard (Mannish word)
sha together with (prep) (DBS) TK, 2. expression of disgust, TK
shag- demand, ask (verb) LOS
Shagrat PN an orc of Mordor (LOTR III) ("Demand Ransom"
shakh lord (noun) EL
shara man (= human man) (noun) EL
sharlob woman (noun) LOS
sharkû old man (noun) TK (Isengard Orkish)
sharkûlob old woman (noun) LOS
shaut almost (adverb) LOS
Shelob PN the giant spider monster of Cirith Ungol (LOTR III)
Shelobzagh PN Cirith Ungol (pn) AA
shiik scream (noun) LOS
shiik- scream (verb) LOS
skaat- come (verb) LOS
skai gah! (exclamation) (DBS) TK
skoi 1. fly (noun) 2. any flying non-stinging insect (noun) LOS
skoi- fly (verb) LOS
skoiug flying (present participle) LOS
skri eight LOS
skrithurz mean, cruel (adj) LOS
skûm- smell (verb) LOS
skûm odor (noun) LOS
slai- live (verb) LOS
slaium life (noun) LOS
slaiug living (pres part) LOS
slaiûrz alive (adj) LOS
sloi- accuse (verb) LOS
sloiuga accused (past part) LOS
snag- labor, work (verb) LOS
Snaga PN an orc of Isengard, slain by Rohirrim
Snaga PN an orc of Kirith Ungol, slain by Sam Gamgee
snaga slave (noun) TK (and used by Uruk-hai as = `orc of smaller breed')
snork worthless (adj) LOS
srinkh- gather (verb) (transitive) LL
sû- breathe (verb) LOS
sûm breath (noun)


T
ta he EL
-ta him EL (always used as suffix)
taal floor (noun) LOS (< Quenya, talan)
taar high (adj) LOS (< Quenya ta'ra)
taaraan noon (taar + aan)
tab his (< `ta + ob') EL
-tala over (prep., suffix) LOS
to her LOS
-tob her, hers LOS (always used as suffix)
tau forest, wood (noun) LOS (< Sindarin taw, forest)
Taubûrz Mirkwood (PN)
tala above (prep) EL (in a note)
tark man of Nûmenoorean descent (TK) (< Quenya `tarkil')
thak face (noun) LOS
thrak tribute (noun) RE
thrak- bring (verb) TK
thrakum obsequious, submissive (adj) RE
throqu- devour (verb) LL
throqum hunger (noun) LOS
throquûrz hungry (adj) LOS
thrul- cook (verb) LOS
-thu beyond (prep) LOS
tith bat (animal) LOS
tug only (adj) EL
tul here (adj) LOS
-tuk through (prep) LOS
tûr- cause (verb) LOS (<Quenya tyar)
tûrum cause (noun) LOS
turu many (adj) LOS
tûzg- admit (verb) LOS


U
-u to (prep.) TK
udu seven EL
uf- frighten (verb) LOS
uf frightening, scary (adj) LOS
ufum fear (noun) LOS
ufur- fear (verb) LOS
ufûrz fearful (adj) LOS
Ufthak PN an orc of Cirith Ungol, caught by Shelob (LOTR III) ("Scary Face"
ufum fear (noun) LOS
ugl- to slay (as in large numbers of people or creatures) AA
Uglûk PN an orc-leader of Isengard, slain by Eomer (LOTR II)
("Slayer of All"
uk all (adj) TK
ukh- go (verb) LOS
ukhurk- forsake (ukh + urk) (verb) LOS
ukû eternal (adj) LOS
ulb blue (adj) LOS (<Quenya ulban)
uliima throne (noun) EL
ulkum evil (noun) LOS (based on Quenya word, ulca)
ulkûrz evil (adj) LOS
-ul them (pronoun) LOS, TK (always used as suffix)
ulu they (pronoun) LOS
-ulub their, theirs LOS (usually suffix)
ump board (noun) LOS
urbh- pile, mountain (noun) RE
urk 1. damn! (exclamation of anger) 2. condemn (verb) urk- LOS
uruk one of a breed of big orcs (noun) TK
uruk-hai the uruk-people TK
urzkû again (RE)
ushd- to use (verb) RE
ûsht argue (verb) LOS
ûshtum argument (noun) LOS
ûs- think (verb) LOS (<Quenya, osanwe')
ûsum thought (noun) LOS
uzg land (noun) EL


Y-Z
Yagûl PN an orc, >> `Gorbag' (SD p13)
yonk more LOS
yûl less LOS
zaarsh today LOS
za this EL
za that RE
zabûrz tonight LOS
zag four LOS
zagh mountain pass (noun) AA
zamal that (relative) RE [example: horn zamal throquat uruk, the beast that devoured the orc]
-zi until (preposition) LOS


Abbreviations:
PN = proper noun. Inventors: TK = Tolkien, LL = `Lalaith', EL = `Elerrina', AN = `Andrew', AA = A. Appleyard. LOS: Mordor, Land of Shadow Message Board, 7N= Seventh Nazgul, RE = Rob Eaglestone from Tolklang. URL for Appleyard's page:
www.dcs.ed.ac.uk/misc/loc...lackSpeech

Sources: AO = 1st Age Angband Orkish, BOLT = Book of Lost Tales, BS = Black Speech, CBS = Classical Black Speech, DBS = Debased Black Speech, LOTR = Lord of the Rings, SD = Sauron Defeated, TH = The Hobbit.


Numbers

1 Ash 11 Galash 30 Gakhgal
2 Krul 12 Galkrul 40 Zagal
3 Gakh 13 Galgakh 50 Kraakal
4 Zag 14 Galzag 60 Rutgal
5 Kraak 15 Galkraak 70 Udgal
6 Rut 16 Galrut 80 Skragh
7 Udu 17 Galudu 90 Krithgal
8 Skri 18 Galskri 100 Bûr
9 Krith 19 Galkrith 1000 Tor
10 Gal 20 Krulgal* 0 nar

This table is partly based on RE's work.
*Note that 21 would be krulgalash, 24 krulgalzag, and so on.


Orc Army Ranks
Dhaaru Piztor-ob Uruk-ob

Rank RW Equivalent Command Number of Soldiers in Command
Pizurk Private -- --
Pizgal Corporal Troop 10
Pizbûr Sergeant Company 100
Pizdur Captain Regiment 500
Mautor Lieutenant Army 1000
Maugoth General 2+ Armies 2000 +

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sorry that i had t osplit it up in 2 posts but it was +/- 18000 letters so it was necessarry