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Ceda
November 29th,2005, 11:48 PM
Lord of the Rings: Picked Apart

Imagine yourself in a pre-industrial world full of mystery and magic. Imagine a world full of monsters, demons, and danger, as well as a world full of friends, fairies, good wizards, and adventure - in doing so you have just taken your first step onto a vast world created by author and scholar John Ronald Reuel Tolkien.

Tolkien became fascinated by language at an early age during his schooling, in particularly, the languages of Northern Europe, both ancient and modern. This affinity for language did not only lead to his profession, but also his private hobby, the invention of languages. His broad knowledge eventually led to the development of his opinions about Myth and the importance of stories. All these various perspectives: language, the heroic tradition, and Myth, as well as deeply-held beliefs in Catholic Christianity work together in all of his works. The main elements of Tolkien’s works are Good versus Evil, characters of Christian and anti-Christian origin, and the power of imagination.

In Tolkien world, evil is the antithesis of creativity, and is dependent on destruction and ruin for its basis. Conversely, goodness is associated with the beauty of creation as well as the preservation of anything that is created. The symbolic nature of these two ideologies is represented in the Elven Rings, which symbolize goodness, and the One Ring, which is wholly evil. A main theme of "The Hobbit", then, is the struggle within our own free will between good will and evil.

Bilbo, the main character of "The Hobbit", often displayed his goodness throughout Tolkien’s novel. One example of this goodness is when he decides to let the evil and corrupted Gollum live, out of pity for him, in the dark caves under the mountain. Bilbo could have easily slain the horrid creature mainly because of the ring, which he was wearing at that time, gave him the power of invisibility. Instead, he risked his life to let the Gollum live by quickly jumping past the evil creature, thereby escaping death of either character. Gandalf, in a later narrative, lectures Frodo by praising Bilbo’s act of pity upon Gollum. Gandalf’s words were, "Pity? It was pity that stayed his hand. Pity, and Mercy; not to strike without need. And he has been well rewarded Frodo." - For Gollum, later in the novel, saved Frodo from becoming possessed by the Ring of power. "Many that live deserve death. And some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then do not be too eager to deal out death in judgement…"

Another form of goodness that is displayed throughout "The Hobbit" and "The Lord of the Rings" is Bilbo and Frodo’s actions of self-sacrifice. In "The Hobbit" there are two instances in which villains caught the dwarves, Bilbo’s fellow adventurers. Instead of fleeing their enemies, Bilbo risked his life to save the dwarves from the clutches of evil. One instance of this is when a clan of unusually large spiders captured Bilbo’s companions and planned to eat them. Bilbo then devised a plan to distract the spiders away from their victims and then silently backtracked to his companions. He then cut the dwarves from the sticky spider webs with which they were tied and, together, they fought their way to safety. Also, Frodo, in "The Lord of the Rings" was challenged with the destruction of the all-evil and corrupting One Ring of power. In doing so, Frodo sacrificed his life. "We should also remember that Frodo’s self-sacrifice is not only for the defeat of evil; it is also for the good of society, for the whole community of created beings. This suggests, in turn, that in the mind of the fantasist, society is worth saving." (Professor Evans – Oxford)

As opposed to the good deeds and morals portrayed by Bilbo and his companions, there are many foul and unholy creatures that lurk in the pages of Tolkien’s works, which commit horrible acts. One of the most horrid of the acts in "The Hobbit" was the corruption of Gollum. Gollum was not always the slimy, cave dwelling, dangerous monster that he became. He was once a Hobbit, not unlike Bilbo himself, named Smeagol. However, one day he and his brother, Deagol, were by a riverbank. Deagol found the ring of power. Then, Smeagol, who soon became the Gollum, killed his brother to attain the Ring of power for himself. This Ring, "the Ring to rule them all", had the power to corrupt any person who possessed it. Whether it was the Ring’s overpowering magic or simply Gollum’s lust for the ring, the corruption that overcame Smeagol drove him to commit the ghastly murder of his brother.
Another evil in "The Hobbit" is an evil that is much more familiar to any reader, the evil of greed. This trait is most prominent in the character of the gigantic dragon Smaug. Even though Smaug has no use for great amounts of gold and jewels, he covets and guards his stolen fortune to the death. Tolkien had created the dragon to be born with the desire to plunder towns and kill the innocent to gain his utmost desires, treasure of any and all sorts. Tolkien may very well have created this monster in the light of many monsters of our world, the "primary" world. However, these monsters do not fly on wings like that of a great bat and spat fire from their nostrils. These monsters usually wear a suit and tie. Like the fictional Smaug, some greedy human beings feed off others of lesser power or social status to attain their financial goals of excess.

Even though Tolkien claims that "The Hobbit" and "The Lord of the Rings" were not written in the light of Christianity or as an allegory, there is a great presence of religious symbolism throughout his epic. "The Lord of the Rings, although it contains no ‘God’, no ‘Christ’, and no ‘Christians’, embodies much of Tolkien’s ‘real religion’ and is a profoundly a Christian work." Tolkien, whether by mistake or purposely, seems to relate the adventures and acts of his characters Bilbo and Gandalf closely to the acts of Christ in the Bible. In the "The Hobbit", Bilbo often acted as Jesus would in the Bible. Confronted with the possession of the evil Ring of power, Bilbo was often tempted to use the Ring in excess and for wrong reasons. However the strong willed hobbit never succumbed to that evil power, much like when Jesus resists the temptation of Satan in the desert in Matthew 3:16.
In short, the passage explains how the Lord, after fasting for forty days and forty nights, resists the temptation to create food and feast. He then is tested by Satan to call upon his angels to save him from deadly leap off of the highest point of a high precipice. Jesus simply turns Satan away again.
Also, one of Bilbo’s descendants, Frodo, was burdened with the temptation of the Ring. Frodo knew of the power that the Ring held and knew that he could either be a great evil power himself, or that this great evil thing must be destroyed. The end of the "Lord of the Rings" results in the destruction of the Ring and, along with it, the death of Frodo. "Frodo learns- and thus teaches- what for Tolkien is the deepest of all Christian truths: how to surrender one’s life, how to lose one’s treasure, how to die, and thus how truly to live." (Professor Linton - Cambridge)

Another Christian-like manifestation of Tolkien’s creative imagination is the character of Gandalf, the good wizard. "Gandalf, the Christ-like wizard who lays down his life for his friends, knows that he is an unworthy bearer of the Ring – not because he has evil designs that he wants secretly to accomplish, but rather because his desire to do good is so great." (Professor Linton - Cambridge)
Gandalf is an important pawn and advantage to the hobbit and dwarves in their adventure. He often guides, gives advice, and overall helps the adventurers along in their great journey. Believers of Christianity also believe that Christ is with them, guiding and showing the way to salvation, throughout their day. Although Gandalf, in Tolkien’s novels, never cured a blind man or leper with a touch of his hand, he compares to Jesus in the miracles of his magic and spell casting.

Also, the ring is a symbol of power, evil power. It is the part of nature that continually strives to destroy a person’s ability to exercise free will. In essence, the power of the Ring is the exact opposite of freedom. The purpose of the Ring is to destroy, through deceit and corruption, anything good in the world. Another way to show the evil nature of the ring is to say that it represents the omnipresence of evil. Its very existence, because it contains the evil will of its creator, Sauron, has the power to tempt, corrupt, and, in doing so, destroy. Another way in which the evil nature of the Ring can be depicted is in the way it has seemingly powerful animate abilities as an inanimate object. In order to understand this, one must realize that if the Ring is evil in itself, then it must also have the ability to work evil. It cannot necessarily create evil ideas on its own, but instead it can take advantage of any opportunity that presents itself to the Ring. Specifically, whenever Frodo actually uses the Ring, the Ring has a chance to work its corruption on him.
In this way, the Ring is advantageous, and the stronger the presence of evil, the easier it is for the Ring to work on the bearer. For example, in "The Lord of the Rings," the presence of the Witch-king is a tremendous evil; the Ring takes advantage of this, and convinces Frodo to use it in order to escape. Although Frodo is not permanently corrupted at this point, the Ring is slowly eating away at him, and its power over him grows each time he uses it.

Elfdaughter
November 30th,2005, 03:42 AM
Nice theory!

This is another of the magical aspectgs of LOTR - virtually every single religion can see things in it that relate to their own religion. A lot of Pagans hold LOTR up as one of the best Pagan books written, just as Christians hold it, or the Chronicles of Narnia up. In fact, both religions hold up both books, and say 'This is clearly based on Christianity/Paganism etc. Saying a book belongs to one religion, or is writtenin the light of one religion, is impossible, especially when religions are so close to each other in their beliefs of what is good, and what is evil.

However, it seems srange to me that, if this is a Christian book, it brings something in that all Christians deem as unholy, and completely wrong, yet Pagans embrace: the use of magic. Magic is inherent throughout the book, and is used for both the side of good and evil, just as magic in the real world can be used for both good and ill purposes. I believe that some Christians would be appalled to hear Gandalf reffered to as 'Christlike', in that he casts spells....

The Valar, for example, to Christians may represent angels, while to some Pagans, they represent the different apsects of the God.

In other words, as I said before, we cannot say the the Lord of the Rings is 'profoundly a Christian work', as it is much a Pagan work as it is Christian. We could also say it is a Hinduistic, Judaic or Islamic work, or even, at a push, Bhuddist.

Forgive me if this post was disjointed, but it is past 2am.... I'm also writing this from an ex-christian, pagan view.

ImDaMom
November 30th,2005, 01:47 PM
And yet, while it may seem 'profoundly Christian' with the Christ like Frodo (dying for the benefit of the rest of ME) or God like Gandalf (sending his 'son' to do this deed) you'll notice there is absolutely NO diety mentioned in LOTR. Not once do they pray to Eru or invoke his name. There are no priests, leaders, etc at either the coronation of Aragorn, or Sam's wedding, and we are not told whether someone officiated at the wedding of Aragorn and Arwen. I've always felt that while JRR was a devout Catholic, and always willing to prosletyze, he took great pains in this book to NOT promote the church. I suppose if he had, we would have had Saurman's hordes bringing him sacrifices and honors, tributes being paid to the kings of Gondor and Rohan and great festivals during December (altho in the end of LOTR, he does mention that the hobbits 'yule' was merrier than anticipated). All in all, I knew what his background was but I never felt he intended to make it a prime point in his stories. (and like ED, I'm writing this from an ex-Christian, ex-Catholic point of view...I've probably studied religious history more than the history of my own state!)

Ceda
November 30th,2005, 09:04 PM
I actully wrote this for my englsih piece of course work at college - the theoy is of a christian point of view though, I infact am not christian - I researched into what Tolkien actully thought and what others say and made my own conclusions from there - I agree that every releigion can take it to be there own - I do belive that - though I am not christian, its the only religion that I know more of than my own, though that in fact is not a relgion just a belief.
I thought for my course work in college, it would be intresting to have this point of view.

IronHills Dwarf
December 1st,2005, 01:12 AM
Nice theory!

This is another of the magical aspectgs of LOTR - virtually every single religion can see things in it that relate to their own religion. A lot of Pagans hold LOTR up as one of the best Pagan books written, just as Christians hold it, or the Chronicles of Narnia up. In fact, both religions hold up both books, and say 'This is clearly based on Christianity/Paganism etc. Saying a book belongs to one religion, or is writtenin the light of one religion, is impossible, especially when religions are so close to each other in their beliefs of what is good, and what is evil.

However, it seems srange to me that, if this is a Christian book, it brings something in that all Christians deem as unholy, and completely wrong, yet Pagans embrace: the use of magic. Magic is inherent throughout the book, and is used for both the side of good and evil, just as magic in the real world can be used for both good and ill purposes. I believe that some Christians would be appalled to hear Gandalf reffered to as 'Christlike', in that he casts spells....

The Valar, for example, to Christians may represent angels, while to some Pagans, they represent the different apsects of the God.

In other words, as I said before, we cannot say the the Lord of the Rings is 'profoundly a Christian work', as it is much a Pagan work as it is Christian. We could also say it is a Hinduistic, Judaic or Islamic work, or even, at a push, Bhuddist.

Forgive me if this post was disjointed, but it is past 2am.... I'm also writing this from an ex-christian, pagan view.


Hmm, I guess the response that could be made about magic is that miraculous happens are not any stranger to Christianity (miracles etc...). Magic is a bit of a charged word in Christian circles, but really most Christians wouldn't and don't have a problem with the "power" of Gandalf or the other wizards, for one thing they ain't human and their power is bestowed by the deity. Usually the problem with magic in Christian circles is it's use by humans (obviously).

Overall I always find any attempt to read allegory or any religion into Tolkien a bit of a useless exercise. I think the closest you can come is to realize Tolkien's own deep Christian religious beliefs and leave it at that.

Elfdaughter
December 1st,2005, 01:49 AM
I agree, IHD - To be honest, I hate it when people say that this book is 'profoundly this religion' or 'profoundly that religion', and that's the point I'm trying to ge across, that it's a useless exercise. I said this on a Narnia forum I used to be on, when they continually held Aslan up to be a 'Christ' figure (as I saw him as 'Aslan', not some Godhead, though if forced, I would have said I could see many Gods in him) - sure, the writers were Christian (Both Tolkien and Lewis), but that does not mean that the books are an allegory. I'm a pagan and a writer - does that mean my books are Paganistic? Nope. Many people have read my books and not seen any Pagan references in there at all. OK, It's nearly 1 am so my posts are all over the place again, but the point I'm trying to make is this: Why can't we take fantasy books like that and enjoy them at face value, instead of trying to read into allegory thats not there?

IronHills Dwarf
December 1st,2005, 02:23 AM
Exactly my thoughts. Though with Narnia you have to take into account what Louis himself said about the book. But that's another story for another thread. ;)

I prefer to let Tolkien's world stand on it's own, NOT as some misty shadow of ours.

Elfdaughter
December 1st,2005, 02:58 AM
Yip totally agree with you there, IHD!

ImDaMom
December 1st,2005, 04:24 AM
We had a long discussion about this at dinner tonite, and the spouse and I agreed that while JRR's works were indeed Christian in their foundation, he did not force it upon the reader, while CSL's work made you really consider the religious bias of the writer. In other words, CSL embraced allegory, while JRR rejected it in all forms.

Stormcrow
December 2nd,2005, 02:23 AM
Yes, J.R.R. certainly didn't like using allegory. He made that very clear in the FOTR foreword. Here is the direct quote.

'Other arrangements could be devised according to the tastes or views of those who like allegory or topical reference. But I cordially dislike allegory in all its manifestations, and have always done so since I grew old and wary enough to detect its presence. I much prefer history, true or feigned, with its varied applicability to the thought andexperience of readers. I think that many confuse 'applicability' with 'allegory'; but the one resides in the freedom of the reader, and the other in the purposed domination of the author.'

J.R.R. always stayed away from allegory in his works, and I think we can all say that it was for the best. :)

Ceda
January 6th,2006, 12:27 AM
I thank you all for your comments - but like I said at the beggnining - this was written from a different point of view - maybe over religious point of view yes? This in fact is not what i think of the book - how I study the book, realise the book and meaning and what things actully are - this was just for once - instead of my own opioin, I thought of it from a different point of view for once