Tactics that are hidden but YOU caught them

[Elvenrider]

Well here is a topic where you can post tactics that you saw that might have been overlooked or not 'appreciated' very much. Well hee I go.

At the battle of Helm's Deep you might have noticed that he came from the east. The sun always rises in the east. So when Gandalf and Eowyn had charged right as they got to the frontline the sun blinded the Uruks. That, in history has been done before.

David (from the Bible, the one who slayed Goliath) lead his army and took the time to travel around the enemy and in the morning charged from the east blinding the enemy.

The sun is a very powerful ally. Oh and don't forget, a wizard is never late, nor early, he arrives precisely when he is neede. I believe is the quote. And he did at helm's deep didn't he?

Just reply to this or add another post to it.

[Stormcrow]

The correct quote is...

"A wizard is never late, nor is he early. He arrives precisely when he means to." ;)

Sorry about that, but I suppose 'needed' and 'means to' have two very different meanings. :p

[Elvenrider]

Does that correction have anything to do with this? I mean, ya I said it wrong but everybody knows what I mean right? I just want people to post about my thread, not correct me or others.

[Elfdaughter]

*puts mod hat on* Now,now. Keep this nice, please, Archer. Stormcrow is correct, 'needed' and 'means to' have completely different meanings. *removes mod hat*

And yes, you're right, it has been done before. Although I wouldn't take the Bible as fact (sorry, but I'm not Christian), there are other documented events where that has happened. Which is probably where Tolkien got the idea from. Remember, he was a lecturer, not a military leader.

A good leader surveys his terrainbefore he (or she) sends his or her troops into battle. It wasn't just the fact that Gandalf arrived from the east that helped to blind the enemy, it was the fact that the hill they came down was so steep - it forced the Uruks to look upward, causing them to look directly into the rising sun. Using the sun has been common throughout the centuries - when fencing or doing swordplay, it's commonpractice to drive your opponent around to face the sun, thereby focussing the light through their visor, and effectively blinding them,giving you the advantage.

[Stormcrow]

Very interesting to know, ED. ;) I must say it is indeed a brilliant and effective tactic to use something as powerful as the sun against your opponent to your advantage. Gandalf knows his stuff. lol :cool: I agree with ED. I don't believe Tolkein writing about this particular tactic relates to the bible at all. I think that this is just something he thought up himself, considering it is used so commonly in the particular areas ED said. ;)

[Elfdaughter]

No problem,Stormy. Like I said somewhere else, being a medieval re-enactor has it's advantages! :lmao:

[Stormcrow]

Sure does! Especially when you're so good at it, ED! :thumbs:

[Elfdaughter]

:blush: Aw, thanks! It's amazing what you learn..... Archer, that thread's up in Behind the Scenes.

[Elvenrider]

O ok, I found it. thanks