Fave Elf

[Legolas' Angel]

:naughty: Who's your favorite Elf? :naughty:
Legolas, Arwen, Elrond, Galadriel or Haldir

Mine is the oh so hot Legolas :loveyou: :flamer: :grin: ;) :) he's tall, beautiful and very resourceful and sooooooo many other great things!!!!!!!!

[Sindarin]

Galadriel. :elfqueen:

[Elf angel]

LEGOLAS GREENLEAF! ;) :naughty:

[Tar-Ancalimë]

Uh... Legolas, definately (OK why is Haldir an option?)

[TheRingBearer]

Arwen of course :thumbs:

[Tary]

legolas :archer:

[Akiba]

Legolas I mean did you even have to ask and I agree why is haldir a choice?

[Tar-Ancalimë]

Hm... well, in the books Haldir is rather good. He's nice and he saves them from Gollum :)

I just don't know what they were doing in the movie.

[Little Devil]

Haldir dies in TTT, fav elf Legolas :archer: and Gladriel :elfqueen:

[Mathew6]

the only good elf is a dead elf that what i say except for galdriel i guess shes ok

[Tar-Ancalimë]

OK you're wacko.

Dead elves are not good and people who want elves dead are not good.

[Lady Melody]

Legolas of course, I still love the scene when he's dodging the cave troll!

[Bonos-Girl]

legolas really...but i'm gonna chose haldir this time.....

[Ranger]

I agree Legolas:elf:

[Lynx]

I guess I have to agree with almost everyone else: Legolas, most definitely.

lynx

[Bonos-Girl]

HALDIR, HALDIR, HALDIR, HALDIR.....

[Galadriel]

I LOVE Legolas. He is just soooo cute and handsome and just a great elf over all. I also like Galadriel thought becasue she is also very beautiful and resourceful.:elfqueen:

[Bonos-Girl]

so everyones ignoring me now??!!!

[Little Devil]

Of couse not! well maybe just a little. :grin:

[Akiba]

hmm maybe was the Haldir thing haldir so ucky in my opinion

[Eowyn]

Legolas...........
*eyes glaze over*
sorry erm.... bonos-girl why Haldir?

[Gowpon]

LLLLLEEEEGGGGGOOOOLLLLLAAAASSSSS!!!!

Gowpon gave out a foolish grin and went on drooling. :blush: lol

[Catz]

actually i rather like the look of those two dark elves in the council scenes too:naughty: ;) lol man we need that drool smilie....
:catz:

[Galadriel14]

LEGOLAS!!!! :naughty:
HE'S HOT!!!!!!!!!!! :loveyou: :flamer: :flamer: :flamer: :loveyou:

[Little Devil]

Literally!! lol :loveyou:

[Galadriel14]

I agree. We really need a drool smilie!!!!!! :naughty: lol :naughty: lol :naughty: lol :naughty: lol

[Eowyn]

definately :grin: lol

[Chan]

Legolas! Definitely Legolas!!
*stares at pic and tries not to lick the screen*

[Tar-Ancalimë]

im with you there all the way chan... :drool:

[Galadriel14]

Finally the drool smilie!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LEGOLAS!!!!!!!
*at this moment the floor is all filled with drool*
:drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool:

[Kezzy]

Well that is such a hard decision.
Clearly everyone loves Legolas and so do i! :loveyou:
but i have to say as i think i have said a few times now that Figwit, Ellandan and Elrohir are very :flamer: :loveyou: :drool:
How could you not love identiclal twin elves that belong to Elrond?

[Bonos-Girl]

to reply to the haldir thing: i love leggy sooo much...but someone has to stick up for Haldir.....

[Little Devil]

Someone has too and in this case I think Bonos-girl is sticking up for Haldir, Good for You!! :thumbs:

[Eowyn]

ok have fun with that bono's girl! :grin:

[Undomiel]

o haldir definitelyroflmao roflmao roflmao roflmao roflmao
sorry but he just looks such an idiot.

Real answer: LEGOLAS obviously!!!!!!

[Alkarie]

Actually, I just loved Glorfindel, just because of all the history he has from the Sil, but since he was ripped out of the movie, I guess Galadriel is next, for the same reasons. She is very old and wise and subtly powerful (like I guess all the best characters in Tolkien are).

[Bonos-Girl]

ok...I'll say this ONE more time....STOP WITH THE HALDIR BASHING!!!!

[Eowyn]

I don't think it will stop. try this
*passes bonos-girl a trout*
it should stop some of them! :grin:

[Bonos-Girl]

:trout: :trout: :trout:
you think that'll help??!! :huh:

[Bonos-Girl]

:trout: :trout: :trout:
you think that'll help??!! :huh:

[Ephel Duath]

Haldir is okay but Lego rules. Dunno if ne 1 else noticed but when Haldir first talks to Aragorn in Lorien and elves r surroundin them, there is an elf standin behind Haldir who kinda luks like a woman but has a v dark stubbly chin, so i guess she looks like a woman in need of a shave.Mayb its just me.......Oh, and Bonos-Girl?Haldir has a fan club? I can understand the PERVY HOBBITFANCIER but......

[Tary]

Mathew6 hates Elfs becuse he is a Dwarf and Dwarfs feel they have to hate elfs. Who knows why Elfs rule!

[Eowyn]

it might :huh: .......a bit?

[Bonos-Girl]

I am the sole member of hyaldirs fan club....not gonna start a thread though coz everyone would kill me!!!

[Ephel Duath]

i wud definatley not want to get started on a Haldir thread, especially wiv Undomiel around......

[Eowyn]

lol poor bonos-girl but why would people kill you? he's not that bad! now if you'd said gimli.......

[Bonos-Girl]

shhhhh...there are many gimli-fanciers out there...they might hear you....... nah, only joking!!!
people would kill me coz if we got started on too much haldir-bashing then we would start anothre war bout it cept i'd be the sole member of his army with everyone else against me!!!

[Little Devil]

Quite true, but I'm sure that some ppl will join the Haldir army, anyone???? *looks around waiting for an 'Haldir army 'too come*

[Pil]

Welll it's come...in the form of a new member who HAS put up a thread bout haldir...bonos-girl has been walking round school looking happy! :)

[Bonos-Girl]

not true..at all....ok...well maybe...but....
if you really want me to then i'll start haldirs army!!

[Pil]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

I don't wanna have to fight you! :nono: :battle: :nono:

[Eowyn]

oh dear! :rolleyes: what have we started? :huh:

[Ephel Duath]

Haldir!Haldir!Haldir!(chanting):gofatty: hahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!
i think haldirs mom was probably a dwarf:roflmao::orc::elfeek:

[Little Devil]

Haha, your cruel funny but cruel. lol

[Gowpon]

I love all the elves...but...

Leggie rules!!!!lol :naughty: :thumbs: :blush:

[Feathár]

Book: Haldir
Movie: Elrond

[Little Devil]

Book: Legolas
Movie: Legolas. :p

[Legolas' Angel]

LEGOLAS BECAUSE HE'S HOT!!!! :flamer: :drool:

[Undomiel]

I miss Glorfindel. I quite liked him in the book (though admittedly he wasnt in LOTR that much)
Also Elladan and Elrohir-you only get glimpses of what could be them in the film. I thought they were all mysterious in the book.

Still I agree Legolas is the hottest elf lol :loveyou:

[Bonos-Girl]

of course he is...everyone agrees(cept lord raitin of course)!!

[Lord Raistlin]

lol

Book :Haldir
Movie : Haldir!

here comes the big fan of Haldir!

[Lord Raistlin]

:angry: :angry: :angry: :angry:

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA........................... ..............

Haldir is not an idiot.!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And Haldir's mother is not a drawf. :(

Haldir is Cute, Handsome, Sexy and nice.

verymad :trout: verymad :trout: verymad :trout:

The haldir army is here. :knight:

[Adunauriel]

Well as I've said plenty of time before, but never grow tired of saying:grin:

:loveyou: "Legolas is my Fave" :archer:

[Akiba]

yup I love Legolas come to thnk of it I haven't droled over him in a while hmm thst's odd and Haldir is anything but sexy...imo yup but Legolas is so hot!!! ahhhh that felt god

[Little Devil]

We should really have a pol and vote for our favourite elf. I vote for the yummy/brave Leggy! :drool:

[Bonos-Girl]

i vote for haldir......he's way cool!!

[Eme]

Leggy-Lu-Lu ofcourse :D

Tough I also like Glorfindel :)

[Mirkgirl]

Legolas with a few Haldir interuptions....
Now all you have to do is bring Arwen up (well the movie one, we understand almost nothing for her in the books)

I might have answered before... but Galadriel from the books and I guess from the movie too...

[Adunauriel]

I thought there was a Fave Elf Poll...:mmmm:

[Little Devil]

Is there?

[Bonos-Girl]

probably...there's quite a lot like this in the 'i love...' section

[Adunauriel]

there is. It's called: .....Elves....I Love Elves.... So go vote......;)

[Nenya]

Legolas Greenleaf , Galadriel

[Brindlescruff]

Legolas Greenleaf, but also I wish we could have seen King Thranduil.....mecry

[Adunauriel]

Ah Legolas............... :drool: .......... :drool: ...... Oops, I'm sorry did you say something? ;) lol

[Little Devil]

Hehe, lol Legolas :drool:

[Chalili]

Well, I typically go against the crowd but on this one I'm going to HAVE to say Legolas or else suffer an eternal self-trouting...

:drool: :loveyou::drool::loveyou: :drool::loveyou: :drool::loveyou: :drool::loveyou: :drool:


P.S. Want me to go find a mop?

[Kazren]

I guess the concensus is Legolas, and even reading the book, he is just so mysterious and cool. And in the movies, too. Yes, I vote for him, though I must say I was intrigued by the quiet Rumil. I understand - based soley upon a T-shirt the actor who plays Rumil wears in a photo - that he will show up at Helm's Deep.

[Adamanta Baggins]

legolas;)

but, legolas' angel, you forgot lord celeborn! he's awesome too.

-Adamanta

[Adunauriel]

Ah, yes let's not forget Celeborn..... I could drool for him a little....:drool: ;)

[Legolas' Angel]

CELEBRORN?!? UR CRAZY!! He is v v v v ugly and annoying! Legolas is WAY better! But it's up 2 u who u like or :drool: over! U no my man or should I say ELF! hehe :drool: :drool:

[Adunauriel]

No I'm not crazy. I just happen to like Celeborn... I will let you know Legolas' Angel. That I too love Legolas, he is now and will forever be my faveorite Elf. That doesn't meant thou that I don't appreciate other Elves. Well except Haldir, I didn't like Haldir....:)

[Adamanta Baggins]

me neither!! he's not very.... elvish to me. he looks more like a man than an elf. but he was cooler in the extended DVD.

adunauriel, i think celeborn is awesome too. ;) not really hott... but cool.

lol, hot but cool.... that was kinda funny.... okay, nevermind. shutting up.

-Me

[Adunauriel]

It's ok Adamanta, I understand. I too often make comments that I'm sure will only be understood by me. I am often surprised that other find them understandable.... I'm sure thou that some will scratch there heads at this one....lol ;)

[Bonos-Girl]

i like haldir...as i've said on many a post!!! i don't see what's so bad about him..

[Alkarie]

For all of you lovers of Haldir out there, check this picture out. It's hillarious!!!! roflmao

http://www.geocities.com/evenstarelessar/humourpictures_haldirpotter.html

[Aerandir]

Heh, that's funny! roflmao

~Aera

[Ithielnor]

Thats hilarious!lollol

[Adunauriel]

That's the funniest stuff......lol But I'm still not into haldir......;) lol

[Little Devil]

I loved that. lol

[Adunauriel]

Ok Everyone, I've finally seen the Extended DVD..... I must say, I love Legolas even more then before..... He's absolutely amazing, and totally hot.;)..... Loved every minute he graced the screen.....;) :loveyou:

[Winyaél Greenleaf]

Me too!!!

[Adunauriel]

Well, it's always nice to have someone agree with me...:thumbs:

[Lady of the Rings]

I'd have to go with the coolest Elf in the world~ Legolas! :drool: :loveyou: :drool:Somebody pass a bucket ;)

But I have to stick up for Haldir too..there is way too much Haldir bashing going on :nono: Come on, he's pretty cool..and not too bad looking either :grin:

[Adunauriel]

I liked him more after seeing the extended edition.. But, didn't truely appreciate him until seeing him in TTT.....:thumbs:

[Lady of the Rings]

Same,I liked him more after the extended DVD too. He got much more to say and do :thumbs:..and...once again..he isn't too bad looking either :p

[Legolas's_girl]

You know I'm choseing Legolas! He's such an angel! ^_^

[Adunauriel]

Originally posted by Lady of the Rings
Same,I liked him more after the extended DVD too. He got much more to say and do :thumbs:..and...once again..he isn't too bad looking either :p I thought Haldir was better looking in TTT, then he was in FotR..:grin:

[Lady of the Rings]

Hmm..yeh..now that I think about it, I guess he is better looking in TTT, but he's still alright in FOTR , though maybe not as hot :grin: ;)

[Shieldmaide of Rohan]

It totally shocked me though to learn that the great Haldir was once a Doctor on that terrible afternoon soap 'Shortland Street'*- I would never recognised him without the luscious blond locks!

But personally I was impressed with Hugo Weavings' Elrond, wisest and experienced of all elves. And theres plenty that can be said for an older man!



*No Offence meant to any fans of aforementioned series.

[Bonos-Girl]

he was in shortland street?! omg....all those years i could've been watching haldir...but no...i had to decide it was a terrible programme without even bothering to watch it...(you may be able to tell that i am kicking myself right now!)

[Shieldmaide of Rohan]

Yeah, he played guy warner a dashing noah-wyle -esque surgeon. Wasnt quite so chunky in those days as I remember!
Oh the embarassing pasts of LOTR characters!

[Adunauriel]

Actually after seeing Craig Parker out of Haldir costume. He doesn't look so chuncky, so I think the make-up and stuff made him look chunkier...:thumbs:

[*Mrs.Bloom*]

LEGOLAS GREENLEAF!!!!
And Haldir is cool...
I really LOVE elfs!!!They rulzzz!!!

[Winyaél Greenleaf]

i want the dvd extended!!! I wanna see the lembas commercial!!!!

[*Mrs.Bloom*]

Lembas commercial is GREAT...And when he gets his new bow is great too....

[Winyaél Greenleaf]

Alright! That does it! I WILL go get the dvd this thursday!

[Adunauriel]

When you get it Winyaél watch the movie with the Cast Chat on.. Then you'll hear Orlando do his Lembas Commercial...:thumbs:

[Winyaél Greenleaf]

Arrgh!!! I can't find it anywhere! Its out of stock. I'm from Singapore by the way and I think its pretty hard hunting for this kinda stuff around there. But I shall try hard...

[Glarawen]

Legolas is mine of course lol I want to see it too they have it in VHS but it is harder to find :( mum doesnt want to get a dvd so i am stuck w/ VHS

[Winyaél Greenleaf]

I have finally got the extended dvd but my dvd drive can't work!!!

[Glarawen]

That stinks!!!!!!!!!! I feel for you~ but more for me~

[Adunauriel]

I'm sorry your DVD Drive isn't working Winyaél, that truly sucks....:( I'm also sorry for you Glarawen, but watching it on VHS is better than not getting to watch it at all....:grin:

[Glarawen]

But I havent even seen it yet!!!!! :( poor me I am going to the tavern to pity myself over a pint!

[Adunauriel]

You haven't seen the Extended Ed. yet? Boy, that is pretty bad...:(

[Glarawen]

i know!!!!! yet I am not unfaithful (please dont mistake it) i am alone on cash, no job, and mum doesnt buy LotR stuff 4 me! so until i get funds I cant watch it :mecry:

[Winyaél Greenleaf]

Don't worry Glarawen, patience! As long as you know where you can get your hands on it, that would be fine. For me, I had a pretty hard time searching for it. I went to the more prominent stores like Tower records and HMV but to no avail. I finally found it in some tiny store in a not so prominent shopping centre :huh:

Actually, I've got a new dvd drive, but i cant assemble it myself so i gotta engage external help. Sigh... Whats this Cast Chat thing? is it in Disc 3/4 or some option?

[Adunauriel]

It's the cast commentary, you can turn it on while watching the movie.. It's really funny, and I recomend it, but only after watching the movie once or twice without it on....:thumbs:

[Winyaél Greenleaf]

Hey, I've FINALLY got to watch the dvd! I watched the entire movie and managed to pick out quite some new scenes. But someone said there was supposed to see this really great scene of Legolas 'glowing' or something, and I don't see that :huh: but then i was practically half asleep then so I might haf just missed something... and i watched the fellowship of the cast, a day in the life of a hobbit, and cameras in middle-earth. Those were nice. Dom is so funny when he mimicked BK. and Sean's foot... poor thing. I saw abt how they did the scaling and stuff. Really great. Haven't watched all of the cast commentary yet though. It was late and as i said i was almost half asleep. I had the captions on but they were jumping all over the place. But at least I could pick out what everyone was saying. I like Billy's accent. lol I'm exploring the dvd online features now. lol. and i love the council of elrond editorial. Poor guys had to do 36 takes. lol Anyone have any recommendations? I can't possibly watch it all.

[Legolas' Angel]

Wat cd is the lembas commercial on? Wat r the online features like? It suxs caause i dont have a dvd rom on ma computer. Totally not fair!

[Adunauriel]

If your watching the Extended DVD with the cast commentary on, Orlando says it kind of as a joke.. It's not really a commercial...:thumbs:

[Glarawen]

oh well i still want to see it.............. lol

[Winyaél Greenleaf]

Its when you watch the movie with the cast commentary on. and its in a new scene in the extended dvd.

[Adunauriel]

Yep, it's when they get the Lembas from the elves as their leaving Lothlorien.. In the Movie Legolas says "Lembas, elvish whaybread. One small bite is enough to fill the stomach of a grown man.." If you listening to the commentary thou, Orlando says, that he felt like this was his Lembas Commercial.. He then says it like how I have it in my Siggy, in this pitch man kind of voice... It's funny....:thumbs:

[Ruby Yavevalar]

DUUUUH!!!!!LEGOLAS!!!! Soo hot!!
:flamer: lol

[Adunauriel]

Ah, another Leggy lover... J/k, I was one myself when I first joined...;)

[Celebrían]

Is there really any doubt as to who MOST everybody's favorite elf will be? (I did say "most" I know some people won't choose him) Although I must admit that I am with the majority on this one. (cheering) Le-go-las, Le-go-las!!! For the record, the reason he's my favorite is becasue he does he coolest things: shield surfing, swinging up onto a horse, and that knife work! I wish I could do all that! The fact that he is easy on the eyes is just bonus. ;)

[Adunauriel]

Well, there's always those great bonuses... But my fave Elf is now Glorfindel... He's stolen my heart... :loveyou:

[Elleth]

Legolas and Arwen are my favorites :rolleyes:

[Winyaél Greenleaf]

Hmm... but why, Adun? Why Glorfindel? I'm just curious.

[Adunauriel]

Cause, he's just cool... It should have been him in the movies that saved Frodo... Plus, how many people can say they've killed a Balrog....:thumbs:

[Winyaél Greenleaf]

He did? I'm so terribly sorry, but I've been out of touch of the books for quite a while. :blush: I would like to see that part again, if you could enlighten me about it. :duh:
Wow, that means he's really formidable. lol

[Adunauriel]

I believe he killed the Balrog in the Silmarillian.. I haven't read that book yet, so I can't enlighten you there.. Sorry, I'll try and read it as soon as I can..:grin:

[Winyaél Greenleaf]

Oh alright thank goodness. I thought my brains were rusting. If something of such significance happened in LOTR, I knew I ought to have remembered. lol

[Adunauriel]

Well, you didn't miss anything..;) But my Glorfindel is quite the elf... :thumbs:

[Winyaél Greenleaf]

Yes, they shouldn't have replaced him with Arwen in the movie. Wonder who would have acted as him. Anyone got any notion? lol
Anyway, theres been talk in an ROTK thread (I think its called 'will elves go to war in rotk) that says Glorfindel might replace Haldir as elf general if the elves go to war, cuz PJ might want to put him back. But well, that's only a thought. lol

[Adunauriel]

That sounds like an excellent Idea, and I do wonder who will play him.. I hope whoever it is, is very good looking...:thumbs:

[Winyaél Greenleaf]

I'm sure they will. They get all the good looking guys, for the elves. I mean, Elrond and Haldir are pretty easy on the eyes. And there's this Figwit guy who's created some controversy. lol And of course there's Legolas!!!
But I went to this website that they had under the news forum. It states all the characters in the book and there are links to those that they have decided to include in the movie. Unfortunately, Glorfindel doesn't have one.
And I've been wanting to see Prince Imarahil's appearance, but no, his name doesn't have a link either. I want to see Elladen and Elrohir!!!! Will they find twins to star as them? Will they even have them in the movie?

[Luvara]

Aragorn is not an elf, so I'll choose Legolas! ;)

[Adunauriel]

Originally posted by Winyaél Greenleaf
............... I want to see Elladen and Elrohir!!!! Will they find twins to star as them? Will they even have them in the movie? I have no Idea if the Twins will be in the movies.. They should be thou, as they are in RotK a fairly good amount...:thumbs:

[Winyaél Greenleaf]

That would be nice. Haha lol I find twins amazing. lol

[Calenfiniel]

My favorite elf would have to be legolas as well. Swift, lethal, and kind, hes an ally id like to have. I'd never want him as an enemy.

[Adunauriel]

Yes, Legolas is a great ally, and a fierce enemy. Thou, I think the same thing can be said for all elves...:thumbs:

[Calenfiniel]

yes, any elf would be an ally indeed!

[Celebrían]

You guys are so right! Legolas (as well as all the elves) are fierce, strong, and determined fighters, but I would not want to be the one of their enemies ( of course who would? but I think you all know that I'm just trying to make a point :grin: ) I wouldn't stand a chance against them! You know, "You would die before your stroke fell!" YIKES! ELVES ROCK!!!!!!!!

[Calenfiniel]

fierce warriors, yet gentle and graceful while not on the battlefield. not to mention, immortal. One could learn so much!

[Celebrían]

Ah, to be an elf...

[Adunauriel]

Well Celebrían aren't you an Elf? The daughter of Celeborn & Galadriel.. Life Partner to Elrond.. :grin:

[Celebrían]

Ah, true, true. :) But you know what I mean ;) I guess I'm an elf as far as this site is concerned. :grin: By the way, what happend to me? I was never able to figure this out. Did Celebrían go to the Grey Havens, or was she captured and tortured by orcs? I've heard both, do you know? :huh:

[Winyaél Greenleaf]

I heard that Celebrian went off to the sea.

[Adunauriel]

Ok, in year 2509 of the third age. Celebrían journeying to Lórien was waylaid in the Redhorn Pass, and recieved a poisoned wound..

Then in year 2510 Celbrían departed over the sea...:thumbs:

[Winyaél Greenleaf]

Well, so does departed=death?

[Bonos-Girl]

no..they all just left...

[Celebrían]

Ah...I see. :thumbs: Why in the world, though, would I leave my husband and children?! Good Grief! I think I may want to look into getting some therapy! lol

[Winyaél Greenleaf]

Maybe you should have gone back. Poor Elrond must have been so lonely! lol

[Celebrían]

Yeah, I know, I'm having a hard time forgiving myself for that. I just KNOW that if I had been there my daughter wouldn't have run off and gone "mortal"! lol

[Winyaél Greenleaf]

do u chat at the chat room? is anyone there now?

[Celebrían]

Who me? I did once, but the conversation was kinda dragging, so I opted to go elsewhere, but I'll go again. I don't know if anyone's there now. Maybe I'll check in a minute. :)

[Winyaél Greenleaf]

Well, the chatroom is deserted. So sad. *sob*

[Adunauriel]

I think the reason Celebrían departed over the sea, is that she knew she'd never be completly healthy. So she sailed to Valinor, and it's not like she & Elrond never saw one another again.. He sailed there after the Ring was distroyed remember, with Bilbo, Frodo, & Galadriel....:thumbs:

[Celebrían]

That makes sense, Adunauriel. I guess I'd want to leave, too, but all of the stuff about "leaving Elrond" was in jest. ;) But I never thought about the reason for her departure that way. Thanks for the insight! :thumbs:

[Lasgalen]

Legolas is my favorite. He was my favorite even before the movies were made.

-Lasgalen

[Winyaél Greenleaf]

I see... wonder if other members of the fellowship went to join them too.

[Elfdaughter]

:drool: need you even ASK??? :drool: Oh, Ok.....LEGOLAS!!!!!!!!:loveyou:

[Winyaél Greenleaf]

Heh... ED, you know if I didn't read your review for the cooking show, I wouldn't know you were into Legolas. lol

[Elfdaughter]

You ought to se me at school! lol

[Winyaél Greenleaf]

Why, do you keep ranting and raving about him? Unfortunately, in my sch, there aren't many Lotr fans. Some of them don't even know whats that. :mecry:

[Elfdaughter]

:o You're joking!!

[Winyaél Greenleaf]

Well, that's my sob story. :boohoo:

[Elfdaughter]

:snooze: :boohoo: :gaga: roflmao

[Celebrían]

Cooking show? :huh: I think I missed something.......

[Elfdaughter]

Go to www.warofthering.net/fanfic. Its one of Win's stories! Read it, it's SO funny! Read mine while you're there! (Not that that's a subtle hint, or anything.... Sound of wet fish being slapped against ED's palm....)

[Adunauriel]

Well, I don't scare easily at the threat of a trouting... I've been trouted plenty of times... I'll probably read you story ED, so no worries...;) lol

[Celebrían]

Okay, another excuse to not do what I need to be doing! ;)

[Winyaél Greenleaf]

Woah, ED, thanks for helping me advertise. lol You're good at your fantasy stories too. :thumbs: Actually the fanfic section is quite pathetic. sad case. I think more people should make use of it.

[Elfdaughter]

No probs! Thanks!

[Winyaél Greenleaf]

Hmm I wonder if Celebrian viewed the cooking programme story?

[Celebrían]

lol Ha, ha, ha! I did last night. It WAS funny! Great stuff! :thumbs:

[Adunauriel]

I'll have to read some of the stories, I just joined up yesterday....;)

[Winyaél Greenleaf]

Heh, thanks Celebrian. Did you read the Ringbearer one? I'm rather proud of that. It got me some pretty encouraging reviews at fanfiction net. I had you mentioned in there too. As in, the real Celebrian. haha. lol

[Elfdaughter]

Has anyone read mine??? In the Dragon's Sight, The white Tree, Saviours of Mankind etc?

[Winyaél Greenleaf]

Yeah I did. I'm like waiting for you to update you know. lol

[Elfdaughter]

lol! Well, ITDS is finished! Yay! That's up. I've put a bit more on Saviours of Mankind, and the rest is coming!!

[Celebrían]

Originally posted by Winyaél Greenleaf
Heh, thanks Celebrian. Did you read the Ringbearer one? I'm rather proud of that. It got me some pretty encouraging reviews at fanfiction net. I had you mentioned in there too. As in, the real Celebrian. haha. lol

Aw, shucks.....you mentioned me? All good I hope. ;) Did you write the Ringbearer one? To be honest all I read was the cooking show, but I'd love to read yours. I'll read it and give you my review afterwards, seeing as you have already mentioneed me in your story, I don't think tou have to worry about bad reviews ;) Seriously though, I'm sure it's great. I'm trying to develop one myself. I'll let you know when I post it. :)

[Adunauriel]

I haven't had to opportunity to read any of the fanfic in the new area, but I'm hopeing to soon...

I think thou, that it's time we got back to the subject at hand Favorite Elf.... Mine as most of you might well know is Glorfindel...:thumbs:

[Elfdaughter]

:thumbs: Actually, I know I've been going on about Legolas, but actually i like all Elves in general. Yes, I fancy Legolas,:blush:, but I would LOVE to meet some real Elves!!!!

[Winyaél Greenleaf]

Well, Celebrian you've been mentioned in my story at around chpt 18 or something and you'll appear in it much later again. lol I haven't uploaded all of it yet, so maybe you won't see your name yet. lol Well back here...

Legolas~ :loveyou:
and followed by Elladen and Elrohir??? That's pretty weird I know. I find it weird too. I don't know, I've always been intrigued by twins. lol

[Celebrían]

lol Well, with twins you can, "double your pleasure, double your fun!" (just kidding) lol

[Adunauriel]

Actually there seems to be alot of truth in your comment.. With those twins, it's gonna be hard to get one without haveing to take the other...;)

[Winyaél Greenleaf]

erm... Celebrian, that sounded rather suggestive you know... :naughty:

But twins are so mysterious, as in have you guys read about strange phenomenons like twins having accidents at the same time even when their doing different stuff, experience the same stuff even when they are miles apart from each other and so on...

Well anyway, yeah its true that they're always referred to as '2 for the price of 1' lol

[Celebrían]

Originally posted by Winyaél Greenleaf
erm... Celebrian, that sounded rather suggestive you know... :naughty:

But twins are so mysterious, as in have you guys read about strange phenomenons like twins having accidents at the same time even when their doing different stuff, experience the same stuff even when they are miles apart from each other and so on...

Well anyway, yeah its true that they're always referred to as '2 for the price of 1' lol

Um......well I didn't mean it to! I apologize...... :grin: To be honest, I don't even know who these twins are that you are referring to (I know, shame on me!) But don't go into too much detail about them, I want to read about them myself. :) One of my goals for the summer is to read through the Sil. :)

[Eámanë Greenleaf]

Oh boy... Here we go... ::takes a deep breath:: LLLLLEEEEEGGGGGGGOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLAAAAAAAAASSSSSSSSS S!!!!!!!!! :drool: :drool:

[Adunauriel]

Originally posted by Celebrían
Um......well I didn't mean it to! I apologize...... :grin: To be honest, I don't even know who these twins are that you are referring to (I know, shame on me!) But don't go into too much detail about them, I want to read about them myself. :) One of my goals for the summer is to read through the Sil. :) Celebrían, are you saying that you don't know who Elladan & Elrohir are? If so, then just for future refrence, they're your twin sons....:grin:

[Winyaél Greenleaf]

OH MY!!!! Celebrían!!! Are you suffering from some memory ailment?? :elfeek: Your poor poor sons!!! mecry
Heh... just kidding! It's not surprising that we occasionally forget some characters. I haven't been in touch with the books for some time. I would have forgotten many not-so-significant characters, though to me, the twins are rather significant. lol
You wanna read through Sil too? Yeah high 5! Unfortunately, I'm still looking around for it. I don't think the twins will be mentioned in much detail in Sil though. Afterall they are the younger generation. lol You can read more about them in ROTK. :thumbs:

[Celebrían]

How stupid am I?! :trout: There. I deserved that. I guess that I had been seeing so many elvish names lately that I forgot that bit of information. What kind of mother am I ?!

[Winyaél Greenleaf]

Just a forgetful one I suppose. haha. lol

[Celebrían]

Boy am I embarrassed! :blush:

[Winyaél Greenleaf]

Don't be. lol Now you remember. lol
Btw, I looked at your profile and found out that you study psychology. Now that's real cool, and useful too. You could use your knowledge on us crazy pple here! lol

[Celebrían]

lol I already have! (kidding) It's funny, because people always act differently around me when they figure out that I study psych. I don't know why-silly really.

Do you know if there is any description of what my sons look like? I was just curious. I've read LOTR and am reading through it again, I was just wondering if you happened to know ( If you do just tell me where, and I'll read it myself :thumbs: ). I would hope that they favor MY side of the family. ;)

[Winyaél Greenleaf]

Maybe you can look at this: http://imladris.nu/claudio/slelel.html
and this: http://www.ansereg.com/elladan_and_elrohir_factsheet.htm
Hope they're useful :thumbs:
Some have said that Elladan and Elrohir were in the Council of Elrond (in movie), but I don't think that's right, cuz the twins were supposed to be away at that time (according to the book).

[Winyaél Greenleaf]

Btw Adun! I just found out that there's someone out there who likes Glorfindel and Gil-Galad. Her name's Lalaith. :thumbs:

[Celebrían]

Originally posted by Winyaél Greenleaf
Maybe you can look at this: http://imladris.nu/claudio/slelel.html
and this: http://www.ansereg.com/elladan_and_elrohir_factsheet.htm
Hope they're useful :thumbs:
Some have said that Elladan and Elrohir were in the Council of Elrond (in movie), but I don't think that's right, cuz the twins were supposed to be away at that time (according to the book).

Thanks, Win! I'll be sure to check that out when I get the chance. :)

[Adunauriel]

Originally posted by Winyaél Greenleaf
Btw Adun! I just found out that there's someone out there who likes Glorfindel and Gil-Galad. Her name's Lalaith. :thumbs: Yes, I've met her and we've come to an understanding... I can have Glorfindel all to myself (cause she's got a clone), and she has Gil-Galad all to herself....:thumbs:

[Celebrían]

lol That's great! lol

[Celebrían]

Win, I checked out those links...great info! They were very detailed! Thanks!

[Winyaél Greenleaf]

Haha. No prob :thumbs: Good that I'm able to refresh your memory about your sons. :naughty:
And do visit them when you have the time. They must miss you very much. lol

[Adunauriel]

Didn't Elladan & Elrohir also sail to Valinor, or did they remain on Middle-Earth?:grin:

[Celebrían]

The links that Win posted talk about that very issue, although I must admit I'm a bit confused about some of the things they said. If you want, Adunauriel, check out the links, then we'll discuss. :)

And thanks for the reminder, Win. I would visit them this week, but their mother has two big psychology exams tomorrow, so they'll just have to wait till next weekend......... ;)

[Adunauriel]

Well, after reading the information on the sites that Win posted, I'd have to say that it is still a bit confusing... I'd also have to say, that I believe that they eventually did sail to Valinor... Maybe like Legolas, they sailed after the death of Aragorn, and their sister...

[Celebrían]

Yeah, the bit that confused me was the issue of the twins having to choose whether or not they would stay, and if they did stay, they would eventually die. I thought they [elves] couldn't die (I know they can die under those circumstances such as dying of giref and being killed in batlle and such), but they had to choose whether they would remain immortal, based upon their decision to stay in ME? :huh:

Was that confusing enough? :grin:

[Winyaél Greenleaf]

Gah...! That stuff is confusing. But it wasn't said that the twins sailed to Valinor. :huh:
Anyway, I went shopping yesterday and stumbled upon this collectibles shop selling lotr stuff. And OH MY! You should have seen those posters and calendar cards of Leggy! *swoon* :drool: :loveyou: I was practically hysterical there. They also had some adorable tiny lego aragorn, frodo and legolas figuirines! I sure spent a lot of money yesterday. :blush:
btw, if the elves don't sail to Valinor, does that mean they will die? Then arwen wouldn't have anything to worry about, would she? And anyway, what about the avari (the elves who refuse to sail to valinor, as what I read from the Sil)?

[Celebrían]

I'm confused with you, Win :huh: . I don't understand the whole issue of "if you [elves] stay in ME and don't go to Valinor, you will die" (become mortal). Could someone explain? :grin:

[Winyaél Greenleaf]

Ok sorry. haha. I might be talking rubbish basically. Personally, I'm quite confused too. But then why do they make a big fuss abt going to Valinor in that case?

[Celebrían]

No! I hope you don't think I was accusing you of confusing me (boy, does THAT sound confusing! :grin: ) I just like to know all of the details and exceptions to the rules and such when it comes to the elves. I'm just one of those girls. :grin: I think what I need is an "Elves 101" course to explain it all, with charts and everything! :)

[Winyaél Greenleaf]

Oh no, of course I know you wouldn't accuse me of confusing you, cuz you're such a nice person, right? lol I would need an elf encyclopedia too. Maybe Adun can enlighten us. Or you wanna check out the encyclopedia of Varda website again? http://www.glyphweb.com/arda/default.htm

[Celebrían]

Why of course I'm a nice person.............or AM I? :naughty: (Only kidding) ;) Yeah, I'll check that link out, and maybe Adun can "enlighten us" tomorrow...

[Luvara]

I have no idea...:huh:

[Adunauriel]

I don't think all the Elves had to sail to Valinor to remain Immortal.. I think that idea only applyed to the children of Elrond, bacause they weren't 100% Elves.. I think eventually that all the elves probably decided to leave M-E.. As for Elladan & Elrohir, I wouldn't be suprised if they chose to sail after Arwen died...:thumbs:

[Winyaél Greenleaf]

I see... So how long can half-elves live if they don't sail to Valinor? I wonder what's it at Valinor that makes one remain immortal. lol

[Adunauriel]

I think Valinor is the equivalent of 'Heaven on Earth'... It's just an extreemly special place, blessed by the God Iluvatar....:grin:

[Celebrían]

Thanks for the info, Adun! :thumbs:

[Winyaél Greenleaf]

Thanks Adun :thumbs: I'm up to chapter 19. :grin:

[Adunauriel]

I'm just glad I could help you, I always figure there's someone out there who could tell it better.. Give you better info, but I always try to explain things with the best of my abilities....:thumbs:

[Celebrían]

It's much appreciated, Adun! :thumbs:

I just posted this link in the "favorite race" thread, and just realized that it might be more appropriate here. Sorry about that! It attempts to explain "elven genetics". If you want, take a look and we can discuss. It even talks specifically about my favorite elf (staying on topic), Legolas. As a matter of fact, it talks about everybody listed in the poll exept Haldir. So anyway, here you go (again):

http://www.luchau.org/writing/elven_genetics.htm

Let me know what you guys think! :thumbs:

[Winyaél Greenleaf]

Oh my! I can't believe they did this! Very impressive, I must say! I remembered all these genetic cross-test things always bored me during biology class. But now I shall be glad to study this closely! :thumbs:

[Celebrían]

lol Ditto! :thumbs:

[Adunauriel]

Well as I said in the other thread, genetics aren't really my thing.. Besides I already know that Glorfindel is blonde...:thumbs:

[Celebrían]

I don't think the article talked about Glofindel, but I could have forgotten.....I just thought it was interesting, but to each his own...... :thumbs:

[Winyaél Greenleaf]

But it didn't really say much abt legolas either, cuz there are no details about the colour of his mum's hair anyway. I suppose Thranduil has homozygous genes for blonde hair, since blonde is recessive.

[Adunauriel]

It kind of seems right to think of Legolas as a blonde.. I can't really picture him as anything else.....:grin:

[Celebrían]

Yeah, me too. Considering all the producers had to go on was Thranduil's hair color, it's logical that Legolas would be blonde. Although I did think that it was an interesting point that whenever an elf had hair color other than brown/black, Tolkien pointed that out (in other words, assume dark hair unless otherwise noted) and since we are never told Legolas' hair color, I guess that means that he was dark haired, but I must admit, the blonde hair does good things for him. ;)

[Winyaél Greenleaf]

Anyway, I can't imagine Leggy with dark hair. :o It would have been weird... I guess, since we're so used to seeing him as a blonde. lol
What abt the twins? Dark hair?

[Elfdaughter]

Well, considering Arwen and Elrond have dark hair, it would make sense that the twins would too. Of course, it depends on their mother - did she have dark hair? Who was their mother?

[Winyaél Greenleaf]

Celebrian. She's got silver hair.

[Elfdaughter]

Oh yeah, of course. Well, according to genetics, it's about a 50/50 chance that the twins'd have dark hair (and 50/50 that they'd have silver.)

[Elfdaughter]

I'd like to see them have silver hair. That'd be cool.

[Winyaél Greenleaf]

me too!!!

[Adunauriel]

I think thou, as you've all said before, that the twin will have dark hair.. It just fits that they would have the same color as their father & sister....:thumbs:

[Celebrían]

Originally posted by Elfdaughter
Well, considering Arwen and Elrond have dark hair, it would make sense that the twins would too. Of course, it depends on their mother - did she have dark hair? Who was their mother?

Why, yours truly ;) I have silver hair (hence my name. It means "lady crowned with silver") and Elrond has dark hair, as do the twins and, as we all know, Arwen. Apparently silver is a recessive trait. :thumbs:

[Winyaél Greenleaf]

If S reps dominant dark hair and s reps recessive silver hair, I guess Elrond's genes will be SS (or could be Ss too) and Cel's will be ss definitely. then if you do a genetic test cross, it'll be Ss for all the genes and since dark hair is dominant, silver won't show up and so no hope for silver hair. Unless the genes in Elrond's hair is Ss (s could be for other colour other than dark), then results of test cross for the genes of the offspring will be Ss, Ss, ss and ss. So it'll be 50% chance for dark hair and 50% for silver hair. Am I making sense?
btw, the pics that were rumoured to be of the twins would actually not be their pictures anyway cuz one of them has dark hair and the other, blonde.

[Lasgalen]

Originally posted by Winyaél Greenleaf

btw, the pics that were rumoured to be of the twins would actually not be their pictures anyway cuz one of them has dark hair and the other, blonde.
If one is blonde, than they definitely can NOT be the twins. Quote from LotR-The Passing of the Grey Company chapter "So much alike were they, the sons of Elrond, that few could tell them apart: dark-haired, grey-eyed, and their faces elven-fair,"

-Lasgalen

[Elfdaughter]

Originally posted by Lasgalen
Quote from LotR-The Passing of the Grey Company chapter "So much alike were they, the sons of Elrond, that few could tell them apart: dark-haired, grey-eyed, and their faces elven-fair,"

-Lasgalen

Note the 'Dark-haired' - I think that sorts it. If PJ puts them in, he'll follow the book, and they'll have dark hair. This quote obviously puts our speculation down! Dark hair it is!roflmao

[Winyaél Greenleaf]

yes we know they are darked-haired. we were just discussing about elven genetics and the possibilities of the test cross. :)

[Lasgalen]

Winyaél ,
If you want an indepth study of Elven genetics, try http://www.luchau.org/writing/elven_genetics.htm

-Lasgalen

[Winyaél Greenleaf]

thanks but Cel provided this link in a previous post. can't remember if it was here or another thread. I didn't know this link was so famous lol

[Adunauriel]

I think alot of people have questions about how the elves really would look... It's cool and all, but sometime just a bit overwhelming....:thumbs:

[Celebrían]

Originally posted by Winyaél Greenleaf
If S reps dominant dark hair and s reps recessive silver hair, I guess Elrond's genes will be SS (or could be Ss too) and Cel's will be ss definitely. then if you do a genetic test cross, it'll be Ss for all the genes and since dark hair is dominant, silver won't show up and so no hope for silver hair. Unless the genes in Elrond's hair is Ss (s could be for other colour other than dark), then results of test cross for the genes of the offspring will be Ss, Ss, ss and ss. So it'll be 50% chance for dark hair and 50% for silver hair. Am I making sense?
btw, the pics that were rumoured to be of the twins would actually not be their pictures anyway cuz one of them has dark hair and the other, blonde.

Yes, it made sense, Win. ;) Very good job! :thumbs:

[Winyaél Greenleaf]

Haha thanks. I was thinking of going into the field of life sciences. lol
Anyway, let's not talk abt elven genetics anymore lol
Back to topic!
My fave elf is Legolas :loveyou:
followed by the twins! :thumbs:

[David D]

Celebrian that is the theory, which works in principal but there are a few exceptions. There are many examples where this theory does not always seem to hold up. There are some cases where mixed raced child inheriting the D(ark) hair gamete from a parent have had blonde hair. Evenin Lord of the Rings there are a few cases where this rule has not held up. Tuor,Lalaith, Finnarfin are all examples of how they have not got the phenotype of the dominat gene.

Concering Elrond am almost certain that he must have at least one d(light blonde hair) genotype. This is because both his grandparents from his fathers side had blonde hair. Therefore Elrond would likely have the genotype Dd. So it probably would be possible for his children to have silver hair, but am sure that they resembled their father and had dark hair.

[Adunauriel]

Your very right David D.. I'm also a believer that the twins have dark hair like their father....

But to get on topic, my fave Elf is Glorfindel... Ok, I know that wasn't a big shocker....lol ;)