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CIH
September 16th,2002, 06:21 AM
Well I have to say that Im tired to hear from ignorant people who saw the movie : "..and that is the end?!"....referring to the end movie in a bad way. :angry: verymad ...Please someone educate this "hollywood" people...If on the TTT premiere I hear that again... pfbbt

Catz
September 16th,2002, 06:58 AM
oh i know.....tiresome isnt it?....but i guess we just have to bite our lips:rolleyes: lol
btw welcome CIH.....have you posted in the welcome forum yet? if not, please feel free to....:grin: it gives everyone a chance to say HI
:catz:

TheRingBearer
September 16th,2002, 06:36 PM
Those idiots really tick me off. Has anyone told them it's NOT the end!! verymad verymad :rolleyes:

Tar-Ancalimė
September 16th,2002, 09:04 PM
What also ticks me off about movie goers the ones who haven't read the books and are so obnoxious about not knowing what's going on... as if it's like too confusing for them and therefore it's a bad movie... verymad... why do they do that? It's the greatest movie in the world and sure, I didn't understand it all at first but I loved it just the same!

A! Elbereth
September 16th,2002, 11:18 PM
My mom told me the movie was great, but yet 6 months later she tells me she has no clue what is goin on... tell me... how does she know its good when she can't stay awake through the whole thing!? :flamer: So I end up having to explain the entire thing (which i do not mind, but enjoy :grin: ) I keep tellin her to read the books but noooooooooo....

p.s. I was attacked by Shelob last night :elfeek:

Tar-Ancalimė
September 16th,2002, 11:57 PM
hm... nightmares or big spiders?

I have the same problem with my little brother... it's the greatest movie ever but will he read the books? oh no course not

Bonos-Girl
September 17th,2002, 04:58 PM
my brother's pretending to read the books...he takes them to boarding school to show that he actually reads and then promises me that he'll read them....and then he comes back and hasn't read a single word...aaaarrrggghhhh

TheRingBearer
September 17th,2002, 05:59 PM
That's so annoying. I've got a friend who is reading them and when I see him his bookmark hasn't moved! :( :rolleyes:

Tar-Ancalimė
September 17th,2002, 09:15 PM
same here and i always really really REALLY want to discuss them with her! and i can't cuz i don't want to give anything away!!!

A! Elbereth
September 17th,2002, 10:08 PM
I have no one to discuss the books with :(

~Erm... I got attacked by a giant spider... no nightmares, it was real! :o

Tar-Ancalimė
September 17th,2002, 10:09 PM
aaahhh! keep it away from me!!!
i hate insects... detest em... cant stand em... yuck!

Gatsby
September 18th,2002, 12:16 AM
i guess i'm lucky cuz me and my bro both really love the books and talk about them a lot, i can out do him though when it comes to trivia :) that's what happens when you read the appendixes.
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gatsby

Tar-Ancalimė
September 18th,2002, 12:18 AM
i rad em too but i have no one to outdo!!
i outdo all my family but theyhavent even read the books at all!

Gatsby
September 18th,2002, 12:21 AM
oh p.s, my school is filled with idiots. noone in my school has seen it (excpet my friends, i made sure each on saw it!!), because they think it's a dorky fatasy movie. i get made fun of all the time for loving it and the books :( (reading, also big no no). but i know what they don't, that the Lorf of the Rings (book and movie) is brilliant. I stand strong!!
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Tar-Ancalimė
September 18th,2002, 12:39 AM
hey go you. i work amoung idiots too, we dont discuss LotR, each of em has only seen it like once if that. they know im obsessed though and tease me about it all the time. for my bday last year they threw a LotR party which was silly cuz they didnt know anything about LotR!


and... yeah. This has gone off topic.

Gatsby
September 18th,2002, 01:59 AM
but going off topic is half the fun :) . LOTR PRIDE!!! SING LOUD SING PROUD!!
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p.s i can't even bring it up casually with out someone being oh jesus Gatz...

Gatsby
September 18th,2002, 02:01 AM
oh well, that's why i have you guys :)

Daisy Gamgee
September 18th,2002, 02:53 AM
I have to disagree with everyone- yeah it might be a bit annoying to people who know the story and the ending but, for some, the movie is the first thing they will have known of the trilogy, and if you don't know anything about the books, then the ending is abit of a "um, whats going on?" kinda thing.

I saw the movie first, which made me finally read the books - I had been saying for years that I would read them but never got round to it - I think i started to read the Hobbit when i was still in my girly phase and just read Enid bylton so didn't enjoy it and didn't get past the first couple of chapters, and for some strange reason i always thought Hobbits were dragons (I think because I didn't pay too much attention to the descriptions and there was a dragon on the front of the book) but watching the movie made me finally sit down and read the books, which i am immensley glad that i did.....

anyway, I digress, not everyone reads the books, not everyone wants to, but there are some who appreciate the movie, and agree that it is good, but there is always gonig to be people who don't like it, don't understand it, and don't want to - and personally thats fine by me because if we all actually agreed on the brilliance of the book and the film we'd have no one to disagree and discuss with - what a boring place that would led to.

Sorry for waffling, i'm in one of those moods
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Catz
September 18th,2002, 04:56 AM
yeah youre right there Daisy.....and i never minded the *huh? that was a weird ending...." comments....even tho it was made pretty plain in ALL the reviews and so on that FOTR was just the first of three movies.....
It was the "What a f****** stupid ending" comments that bugged me......tearing into a movie for a percieved fault when its really cos you havent paid any attention is just ignorant...and ignorance bothers me.....but i have to say, in the first half dozen times i saw it, they could have been saying anything lol....i wouldnt have heard em.......i was waaaay to far away....somwhere in ME lol lol
:catz:

Daughter of Finarfin
September 18th,2002, 05:35 AM
WHat bothers me is when people say they fell asleep during it. How could they fall asleep during THAT. I have never fallen asleep at a movie theater even if it was a horrible movie. I also didn't like someone who clearly hadn't even seen Fellowship to put down the Two Towers when they showed the trailer before MIB. Uggh, keep your comments to yourself!

CIH
September 18th,2002, 05:36 AM
....And continuing with the polemic Im sure that you are agreed with me when I say that the Academy Award for best movie it should be for "The Lord of the Rings" for a lot.. It was the biggest steal ever!!! only because the director is not American.

Gatsby
September 18th,2002, 07:29 PM
no, LOTR didn't win because of peter... they won because it's a basic principle of the acedemy that Fantasy movies do not win best picture. Star Wars didnt win either, some other film won, and which is remembered and loved to this day?? Star Wars. Yeah LOTR was robbed, but that's how it goes; maybe those damn acedemy members will change their tune once the experience the Two Towers. (that's what the movies are really, an experience)
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Tar-Ancalimė
September 18th,2002, 10:33 PM
yes the business over sw made me mad and now this... i didnt like bm anyway. oh well that made me ****ed so i dont want to discuss it.

anyway catz i agree with you that not understanding the ending was a lot less irritating than thinking (and saying) it was a stupid ending.

Gatsby
September 18th,2002, 10:55 PM
i know i hate it when they say 'jesus what a rip off'. i wanna yell 'be greatful that you get to experience a cinematic masterpeice such as this in your life time!!'.
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Tar-Ancalimė
September 18th,2002, 11:07 PM
i know... people who just dont appreciate it... mecry...

but anyway thats why this is such a great site! we all love lotr!

Gatsby
September 19th,2002, 12:59 AM
amen tar, amen. stupid mortals!!
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Lynx
September 19th,2002, 01:10 AM
whats kind of annoying for me was today, me and this friend of mine are really into LOTR, and another friend was asking us questions about it. I don't mind the questions, I like answering the questions as long as I know the answers. Granted I'm not an expert on LOTR I do know more than most people I know where I live.

But back to the story :-) We were explaining to our other friend at lunch what happened to the 20 rings(who had what rings basically) and then someone comes and sits down at our table and says "Oh you're talking about LOTR, you're a bunch of losers." Just because we were talking about in the class before and then in lunch.

Kinda ticked me off, but I let it slide. I mean when five minutes after that comment the coversation turned to Calculas? Come on, *thats* a better topic than LOTR? hah. Or when at the table next to us there are people looking at Spiderman comics(no offense to spiderman) but..

I don't know. I liked the coversation. Its nice to have someone to talk to about LOTR. Especially when Renaissance Festival is coming up down here. Not exactly Renaissance, but it would be awesome to dress up as a character from LOTR.

I wish I had elf ears.

Lynx

Lynx
September 19th,2002, 01:15 AM
oh, and I have to say the hands down stupidest saying (IMO) about LOTR and comparing it to another movie was made today in English as we were beginning to watch LOTR.

"Back the Future is better than LOTR."

Oh come on, what was this guy thinking?

Lynx

Gatsby
September 19th,2002, 01:45 AM
ugh!! who was the idiot who says that!! anyway lynx we all feel your pain here, i'm sure each and every one of us has been called a name because of our love for the LOTR. just remember that you are not alone, united we stand!!
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Daisy Gamgee
September 19th,2002, 02:11 AM
Before you all get too carried away in your down blasting of non lotr fans, just remember everyone is entitled to their own opinion - chances are that they love something that you hate. I've said it before, and i'll say it again, if everyone was to like the same things, and agree on everything, it would be a pretty boring place. If people do say stuff like "well thats a stupid movie" etc, ask them why they think that, and maybe you could have an interesting discussion with them, and persuade them to try the books, but if you can' t have an intelligent conversation with them, then they probably are just really thick.....

Nessa
September 19th,2002, 02:18 AM
I saw the movie before I read the books, yet I managed to keep my mouth shut. Sure I wasn't completely clear on the plot, but I had the basics down. Its not exactly hard, if you don't try and understand every detail.

I doesn't bother me if people don't read the books, some people just aren't readers, its either a choice or something they're just not good at, in any case I don't mind. :grin: I know very few people who have, which is why I hang out here. ;)

P.S. - Keep standing strong, Gatsby! I love peopl who keep on liking what they like and doing what they do no matter what other people say. Go you! :gofatty:

Daisy Gamgee
September 19th,2002, 02:22 AM
Originally posted by Nessa

P.S. - Keep standing strong, Gatsby! I love peopl who keep on liking what they like and doing what they do no matter what other people say. Go you! :gofatty: [/B]

:thumbs: never change you're opinion just because someone else thinks your dumb - people will respect you more for having a valid opinion than someone who changes sides every 2 minutes just to fit in with other people:)

Lynx
September 19th,2002, 02:23 AM
yes, I know, Daisy.

And my friend was just annoyed that it seems all we talk about is LOTR and she's calling us losers for that. I can kinda understand that but then I don't go around trashing the topics she talks about and saying she is a loser for talking about certain things.

And the kid who said Back to the Future was better couldn't come up with a good reason why when I asked him why he thought so. He just says its better because Michael J Fox is in it. He's entitled to his own opinion, but so am I and I gotta say, what the heck is he thinking? hehe

Lynx

Daisy Gamgee
September 19th,2002, 02:29 AM
uhm,well yeah "micheal J Fox is in it"?? All due respect to the Fox (i loved him in Spin city and its so mecry about his parkinsons) but ..... definately doesn't beat a film with Gandalf, and Aragorn, and all the hobbits..... as i said if they can't give a good reason, then they're probably thick!

Lynx
September 19th,2002, 02:35 AM
haha. I agree. You definately can't beat Gandalf, Aragorn, Legolas, or the hobbits. All awesome characters.

Well I never said this guy was all together up there in the head :p :grin:

Lynx

Tar-Ancalimė
September 19th,2002, 02:48 AM
i agree...
and daisy i ask people why they dont like it but never yet have i had an intelligent canversation over this topic. im not saying it cant happen just that it doesnt. to me at least.

back to the future? whatever...

CIH
September 19th,2002, 02:53 AM
...I suppose that you guys they will go to the premiere of the Two Towers, you are lucky, I have to wait until January to see it..... whatever.....A question: you would go disguised to the premiere?

Daisy Gamgee
September 19th,2002, 03:06 AM
Tar, i take it you're still in school (not meaning to be rude) - chances are once you get to Uni or college, or whatever, you'll meet people who you can have an interesting, intelligent discussion with.... as long as you don't take these things too seriously!
Most school kids (no offence again!!) don't seem to understand how to debate properly or how to make a valid arguemtent, and i think half the kids i went to school with didn't even know how to read!! It all changes once you escape school though, anf for now, just comfort yourself with these place and realise you're not the only "loser"

Lynx
September 19th,2002, 03:10 AM
haha. I'm still in school too, Daisy. I have to agree with you. Its hard to find people to carry on interesting intelligent conversations outside of the group of friends I have. But then that could be because I'm friend with a bunch of nerds(no offense to people who are cus I'm definately one too) who are in Debate class and on the debate team and have an opinion on just about everything. Excluding the guy who made the comment about Back to the Future of course.

Lynx

A! Elbereth
September 19th,2002, 03:21 AM
yes... I noticed that all of those 'popular', if anything, are very ignorant to learning and VERY immature... but maybe I'm just too mature??? (no way lol) But you don't find that many people who will have a nice conversation outside of class.... I'm in high school.... I expected people to grow out of their childhood habits by now :rolleyes:

Daisy Gamgee
September 19th,2002, 03:39 AM
hee, hee i'm 21 and still haven't grown up!!

Tar-Ancalimė
September 19th,2002, 04:11 AM
i was talking about the people i work with. they think im a dork for liking it (well so i am!) but they dont have any good reasons for not liking it. oh well i have to be nice to them anyway otherwise they "get their feelings hurt" grrrrr

yeah ok just forget i said that theyre actually pretty nice just a little annoying sometimes

when i was in school i was very worried about being cool. i never would have been obsessed over something even as great as lotr. i just needed to grow up. i bet thats just most peoples problem a! e.
not that im saying its a problem with you daisy some people are mature enough even when theyre young so they dont have to grow up. but a lot of people do you know what i mean?

(daisy i do comfort myself with this place! but in my experience people are all the same!)

Daisy Gamgee
September 19th,2002, 04:51 AM
Tar, sorry for thinking you were still at school!!
Changing my point of view, I don't know whether it is actually all to do with maturity, i think its the way you were bought up aswell- my dad used to encourage me and my brother to think for ourselves, and to be able to back things up with vaild points, and also to respect other peoples opinions, even if we don't agree with them - and i think thats a problem some people have - kinda like ' i like that, or i think thats a pile of **** so it is end of story'.

Tar-Ancalimė
September 19th,2002, 04:58 AM
oh yeah i know what you mean. the thing is i was really intolerant of others views in high school. i just wanted to be cool and popular and that was all that mattered. kids who werent cool really didnt matter to me at all. then again i had REALLY prejudiced grand parents who thought 90% of the world was worthless.

now of course im intolerant of people who still think like that...
*sigh* you just cant win can you?

Bonos-Girl
September 19th,2002, 04:01 PM
I've always been ok at arguing but it really annoys me when people have one idea and then they won't listen to yours because it contridicts theirs.......aaaarrrrrrggggghhh.....
me and this guy at scouts asked me how you could get veggie sushi but then he wouldn't listen to me at all (kinda stupid really seeing as he asked for my view....)

Gatsby
September 19th,2002, 09:33 PM
i hate it when people change there beliefs when they are around different people. This girl i know will say she likes something around poeple and then say she doesn't like it when she's around other people. it kills me that people can't be who they are!!
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p.s thanx nessa!! go all of us!!

TheRingBearer
September 19th,2002, 11:10 PM
Yeah, I hate two faced people :(

Tar-Ancalimė
September 20th,2002, 03:24 AM
yes but I was like that until a couple years ago. maybe they really bug you, but its just their way of getting along in the world. maybe a lot of them are being themselves. they just havent matured enough to realize that maybe they really oughtnt think exactly like everyone else.

Bonos-Girl
September 20th,2002, 04:00 PM
maybe they aren't sure what they think at the moment and therefore it's just easier to agree with the people they are with than make a big deal aboutr it when they haven't made up their mind....

Catz
September 20th,2002, 04:20 PM
excellent discussion guys:thumbs:
Just to give you a perspective from a few more years along lol
there will always be those who cant handle having their opinions questioned, who will always take any disagreement as a personal slur....you just have to accept that fact...and that there will always be those who are too damn lazy to have an informed opinion of thier own and will spout whatever theyve been told, as gospel...this is not an age thing...this is a people thinglol....but you will also always find some people who are willing to debate (note i said debate....not argue)...who have strongly held beliefs but who are willing to listen to others.....there are quite a few of them here;) for which im personally very grateful....just dont judge em on appearance....ive had the most fabulous conversations with the most unlikely people....treasure those people;) :cool:
:catz:

Gatsby
September 20th,2002, 10:49 PM
here here catz. well said
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gatsby

Black Rider
September 21st,2002, 02:05 AM
well said Catz. and this is indeed a good discussion topic. i always love getting into a good intellectual argument (future philosophy major) with anyone over anything, having a few radical and different opinions and experiences myself. also i too despise people who change themselves in front of others. wherever i go i always seem to be labeled as "the lotr girl" not that i mind :D however my religious views have gotten me on trouble with some people, but i'm not changong myself for anyone and neither should anyone do the same for anyone else.

Gatsby
September 21st,2002, 09:42 PM
pray tell what are your religious beliefs...completley out of curiosity
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Polly Sandybanks
September 22nd,2002, 11:01 AM
I think it's great that some people are open enough to change their opinions if they are proven wrong.. just as it's great that people can stick to their opinions when they know and feel in their hearts that they are right.
I don't really like the "you should be yourself".. I mean, what is "being yourself"? Who am I if not myself? I'm always myself, just a different me at times maybe.
If I don't agree with someone but haven't quite made up my mind on what to think concerning whatever it is we're talking about, I prefer to stay quiet. Sometimes though.. it can be easier to just agree, like Bonos-Girl said. However.. it gets so much harder when you have finally made up your mind and try to explain that to these people.. and they all think you lied or something before.
It's not easy to live I guess. But as long as you follow your heart and what you believe in, and are open and listen to what other people say, and are willing to change, then at least you can feel good about yourself.. and that's important. Or at least that's what I think.

Good discussion by the way. :)

ScorpioQueen
September 22nd,2002, 12:47 PM
This is a fantastic discussion - I've just spent the last 15 mins reading it all, so I would love to share my experiences and tell you a sweet story but with a sad ending: My dad was a BIG lotr fan and when I was v.young (7ish) he got the film (the crappy 1978 one) out of the vid shop for me to watch and as a 7yr old i LOVED it, well then my dad brought the BBC radio 4 version of lotr 13 1-hr episodes (with Ian Holm starring as Frodo, it was also written by Brain Sibley) and I used to go to work with my dad during holidays and weekends (my dad was a plumber and had his own business) so we used to drive along in his van listening to lotr... it was gr8 I loved it! I still listen to the tapes 2day! There were my dad's but I kinda adopted them a few yrs back. Anyway, once I turned 10 Dad gave me his very old copy of lotr and I started to read it, take into account I was 10 so it took me a yr to read but thats coz i was still @ school and I got dad to explain stuff 2 me. Once I read it my dad was well excited coz he had someone to talk lotr about - so we did and one thing I remember was me being in my early teens and going down to my nan's place who lives by the sea and my dad took me and my bro for a walk along the beach, and while my bro was climbing the rocks my dad and I were quizzing each other, trying to catch each other out bout lotr!!!! That was the 2nd BEST day I ever spent with my dad. Anyway to cut a LONGGGG story short - when I heard that PJ was doin the film I told my dad and we were like a couple of kids (even though he was in his mid-40's and me in my late teens) we spent 3 HOURS downloading the fotr trailer on our crappy computer but SO worth it. And on 1st nov last yr I woke up early and got circle seats to c fotr on opening day @ leicester square (london). Me, dad and my best friend went and we had a fab day! We were sitting in the pub next to the cinema b4 the film started and talking bout gollum and how they wud do shelob 4 TTT (yeah now ROTK :( ) and it was gr8! Same in the cinema, dad and I were so excited, but the sad thing was that my dad was rushed into hosiptal the next day and he died on 1st jan 2002 - so he'll never c TTT or ROTK and I have no one else to talk lotr wiv anymore. But I am so thankful for my dad passing me this gr8 thing and I put his copy of lotr in his coffin @ his funeral. I adored my dad and he was the best dad ever, and I know now that Ive got 2 be doubley excited @ xmas coz im seeing TTT 4 2 ppl! But @ least the last day i spent wiv my dad was the best day of my life....

~Jo-Anne~

PS: I'm known as the lotr freak by everyone!!!

Tar-Ancalimė
September 22nd,2002, 04:05 PM
OMG that is the sweetes story I ever heard. It gave me goosebumps. :)

Thank you for sharing it.

Polly Sandybanks:
All that is gold does not glitter.
Not all those who wander are lost.
The old that is strong does not wither.
Deep roots are not reached by the frost. /Gandalf???

I could have sworn it was Bilbo wrote that song-- Gandalf simply used it in his letter. Are you sure I'm not right?

Gatsby
September 22nd,2002, 04:19 PM
scorpion, that is a beautiful story. IT's so great that you really shared a strong bond with your dad and really used the time you had together. I know some people who have los parents and most of them always say, 'i wish i had gotten to know him/or her better'; your very lucky that you don't need to say that.
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LOTR FANS UNITE!!

Daisy Gamgee
September 23rd,2002, 02:01 AM
Scorpio Queen, what a lovely story that was. My dad taught me and my brother to read and encouraged us to read anything and everything which i'm still doing today (its his fault i never have any money coz i have to buy so many books!). He's taught us lots of things, and i definately wouldn't be me without his influence...

Concerning opinions, I think that as you get older and you're influences change, you're entitled to change your opinions, i know i have, but it shouldn't just be a change with certain people. And if you not sure on the arguements about what you believe in or you're not sure about the other peoples opinions, theres no harm in keeping quiet - if you don't know what you're talking about its sometimes the safest bet.

Gowpon
September 23rd,2002, 05:36 AM
Yes...ignorent ppl...rrrrr
pfbbt pfbbt pfbbt

I think Hollywood movies really posioned their mind...:naughty:

Gatsby
September 23rd,2002, 07:14 PM
indeed gowpon, indeed. give me a good indie film anyday!!
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Estel
October 2nd,2002, 03:32 AM
I fell in love with LOTR on my first reading (back in the 60s) and got my father hooked on them too. It became a tradition that every year on the first day of summer vacation I would start with THE HOBBIT and read all the way thru to the end of the Appendices. My father would start a book the instant I finished, and finally paid for me to take a speed reading course so he wouldn't have to wait so long.

I no longer have summer vacations (or my father mecry) , but I just finished my 38th reading!! I haven't seen FOTR quite that many times....yet!

Gatsby
October 2nd,2002, 09:12 PM
neat tradition Estel. ps congrats on 38th read!! hop it was a good one
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Narsil's weilder
October 4th,2002, 06:43 PM
When the first TTT trailer came out I saw it in the theature and when they show Gandalf a guy in the back yelled, "He's Alive?"

Gatsby
October 4th,2002, 06:52 PM
hahaha i know people are shocked when they find that out. i say 'hello wizards are immortal duh' :) i am the ditz of war of the ring. com
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Gowpon
October 4th,2002, 09:12 PM
lol lol lol :naughty:

Some people are going to mourn for their tears in the theaters for Gandalf last year!!!:naughty: :naughty: lol

Tar-Ancalimė
October 4th,2002, 09:15 PM
Originally posted by Gatsby
'hello wizards are immortal duh' ???? no they arent. gandalf was simply sent back by the valar because his time was not over. but when saruman died, he died.

Gatsby
October 4th,2002, 10:56 PM
ooooooooooooh i gotcha :blush: i thought they had the elf thing going on. they could be slain but they couldn't get sick or die of natural causes? i could be wrong though... just bought book of unfinished tales and that has an entire history of the istari, but i haven't read it yet. i just got the impresion that they were immortal
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Tar-Ancalimė
October 4th,2002, 11:01 PM
oh well i havent read UT... sorry... but maiar, I think, are not immortal, I haven't read the Silmarilion in a long time, but in there I think several maiar die... and anyway, I know for a fact Gandalf died and was, erm, how shall I say, sent back. And you never hear of Saruman coming back. In fact I'm pretty certain he doesn't.

At the same time, I am pretty sure they aren't subject to disease or old age. :grin:

Bonos-Girl
October 5th,2002, 01:45 PM
yep..thats the impression i got too. They are kinda like elves....but more likely to die

Gatsby
October 5th,2002, 04:17 PM
hmmmmmm i'll take your word for it tar
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CIH
October 31st,2002, 03:49 AM
I listen one it criticizes very accelerated and negative about the new movie...why people are so negative...??

Bonos-Girl
November 1st,2002, 03:58 PM
:huh: wtf?!?!

Gatsby
November 2nd,2002, 01:20 AM
she saying that she wonders why people some people are being negative about the movie.
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Estel
November 2nd,2002, 01:59 AM
The Maiar are "lesser" Valar and therefore immortal, although they can also be killed. Sauron was a Maia

Lessa
November 4th,2002, 08:44 AM
All the Ainur and that includes the Maiar who entered the world at it's beginning are bound to it until it's end.

Lessa

Daisy Gamgee
November 4th,2002, 11:29 PM
If they are bound to the earth until its end, how did Gandalf leave for the Gray Heavens?

Tar-Ancalimė
November 4th,2002, 11:45 PM
actually that really couldnt have been what she meant. i mean, many many Maiar die. Sauron was destroyed, Saruman was killed, Gandalf died even... not to mention the Balrogs which died in the first age... but going to the gray havens doesnt count as leaving the earth, actually... because they are just going to Valinor, and that is where Maiar originate...

but they are immortal, in the same sense that the elves are... they dont have the gift of men (or doom ;))

Daisy Gamgee
November 8th,2002, 04:50 AM
ahh, I always thought that Valinor was other worldy (i've haven't read any of the ME stuff).
But I did assum correctly from the sounds of it, that the likes of Gandalf wouldn't die from the common cold!! But I suppose a knife to the heart will kill any - mortal or not.
Am I right in thinking that Gandalf was "killed" during the fight with the Balrog, and he was just granted a kind of rebirth as he hadn't finished the deed he was meant to do??
One day, when I've got time, I promise I will get round to reading Tolkiens other ME material :thumbs:

seblai
November 8th,2002, 05:45 PM
I' m agree with you CIH

eressea
November 11th,2002, 06:46 PM
The NY Times last year had some very nice pieces on Tolkien and quizes every week.....one of them asked the source of Gandalf's name and if I remember correctly it came from a Nordic variation translating into wizard elf. People not reading the books and asking questions can b annoying but they aren't disruptive...whats annoying is watching LOTR for the first time and some twit with a cell phone not only answers it but carries on a conversation...I WANTED to kill!

Bonos-Girl
November 12th,2002, 04:16 PM
well...i'm extremely glad that that never happened ot me...that would've been soo annoying....and i wiuldn't have been able to shout at them cos it would be even more annoying (if that's possible!!)

Estel
November 13th,2002, 01:05 AM
Hint: report them to theater management...I did it and they person was told to TURN OFF their phone or LEAVE the theater.

Good thing too, because I hate to think what I would have done if I grabbed the phone away from them.

:elfqueen:

Lessa
November 13th,2002, 10:13 AM
Good! That's the only way to deal with berks like that.

Lessa

Bonos-Girl
November 13th,2002, 12:39 PM
the thing is..reposrting it would cause me to miss vital seconds of the film!!!

Ithielnor
November 13th,2002, 05:47 PM
This thread is great! keep it up.

Here is a bit more on Valinor- it started as part of middle earth and remained so until Ar-Pharazon tried to invade, that is when all of Middle-earth was changed and Valinor was removed beyond the edge, however, it was still part of the earth though ubtainable only by the elves (and ring bearers:wink:)

For those who havent read it, the Silmirillion is great, it gives lots of background

Ithielnor
November 13th,2002, 05:49 PM
hmm these smilies arn't working for me

Bonos-Girl
November 13th,2002, 08:26 PM
:huh:.....erm....that doesn't really belong here..there is a technical help forum near the bottom of the forum index....

TheRingBearer
November 13th,2002, 08:49 PM
It would really annoy me if someone coughed on purpose as a really important line was being said quietly :angry: lol

Bonos-Girl
November 14th,2002, 04:14 PM
i think i did that once when i was about 5..i thought it was eally amusing!!! noone else di though!!! lol lol

Daisy Gamgee
November 14th,2002, 11:30 PM
In our school assemblies, one person would cough, and then, another, and another, etc - it was really funny when we were 8, but when the lads were still doing it at 16 and 17, it just got really annoying lol

Bonos-Girl
November 15th,2002, 10:14 AM
sometimes we still do that....the teachers get really annoyed though lol!!!

legolaslover1
November 15th,2002, 02:57 PM
i know EXACTLY what you mean. i'm like a really big LOTR fan ok all is well and good it's just that everyone at my school comes up to me and says, "is that the end of the movie? is that the end of the movie?" god it bugs!




One Ring to rule them all, One Ring to find them

Iarfirithwen
November 16th,2002, 12:45 AM
OK that's not what bugs me. I mean it doesn't really worry me when people ask if that was the end of the movie. Especially if they haven't read the books and they have learnt to expect certain type of endings from a film because so many end according to formular,... being new to the world of Tolkien they have only just stated to realise that LOTR is special in oh so many ways.... And I must admit that, while I loved the ending, it left going oh no because I wanted to follow them "hunting orcs" and you are left wanting more and more and more and more and more and ....

What REALLY bugs me is the people who don't respect the other movie patrons who are trying to WATCH the movie and escape into it. I hate getting snapped back into the real world from Middle-earth by some inconsiderate movie goer who has to constantly and slowly rustle through their cellophane/foil chip packets;talk to their neighbours; munch loudly on their popcorm, talk on their mobile phones, rummage through plastic bags etc etc etc Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr rrrr

Saruman
November 24th,2002, 09:34 PM
As I was going out of the cinema (after seeing FOTR for the 5th time) I heard the following conversation between a family, who had obviously just seen the movie:
A: How'd 'e 'scape frem that black tower wi' th'horns mum?
B: 'E changed into ' eagle, I think.
C: Nah; 'e called the eagle wi' that fly thing, innit?
And so on. This wasn't annoying, it was hilarious!

Iarfirithwen
November 24th,2002, 09:56 PM
Thats funny lol (and no I wouldn't find that annoying, unless they'd said it during the movie)
By the way Saruman, this wouldn't have been in Yorkshire by any chance? lol

Saruman
November 25th,2002, 05:25 PM
No, but they must have been from there!

Elfdream
November 26th,2002, 07:45 PM
Someone told me they went to see the movie with a non-reader. After it was all over this person said out loud for everyone to hear..."This would make a great role-playing game!':rolleyes:

Elfdream

krylite
December 4th,2002, 03:26 AM
When I bought the Times Magazine(I never buy Time, I get my news from news talk radio and the local newspaper) at Borders, this hot chick(she was so pretty she could have been cast as an elf in the movie, yes she was a blonde who's face was prettier than Liv Tyler's) working there beside the other lady who rang up my magazine said to her "that must be the most embarassing thing in the store". Like what's that supposed to mean? Guess she caught me eyeing her in line.

Samwise2
January 1st,2003, 02:24 PM
I have seen the movie 4 times and read the book 2 times i read the book before the first movie came out and then started to reread it just before the 2nd movie and finished it today the 1st january 2003 i found that after seeing the movie it help me under stand the the book i bit better so much that when i got to the end where frodo said goodbye to sam i cryed because all i could see was the heartache that both frodo and sam went through to save the middle earth and the heart break that sam must have felt to learn that he and frodo wont be enjoying life in the shire or growing old together .i hope that iam not the only one to feel this way

Samwise2
January 2nd,2003, 11:12 AM
I agree my partner and i went to see it to day (4th time for me 1st for him) and there was this lady explaining it to her boyfriend, then someone thought it would be great to hit two coins together,and i know that there are some funny bits in it but this one person was so loud you could hear as if she was next to you .

eressea
January 2nd,2003, 03:24 PM
U don't even want to know what happened when I saw" Two Towers" for the first time(went twice)....and yes I admit I sunk to the level of the ignorants to handle it.....

Tįri Celebrindal
January 14th,2003, 05:56 AM
it's interesting. non-readers always complain about how abrupt the movies end, and readers usually complain about how much the movies differed from the books. but it doesn't change the fact that some moviegoers really deserved to be strangled in the theater. maybe they should just separate the fanatics from the totally clueless so we could all live in peace.

Lessa
January 14th,2003, 11:37 AM
LOL I can see the cinema ushers asking everyone if they have read the book or not. Then sending them to two seperate screens to watch depending on the answer. :)

Lessa

Pinklotus
January 16th,2003, 02:35 AM
Originally posted by synchondrosis
it's interesting. non-readers always complain about how abrupt the movies end, and readers usually complain about how much the movies differed from the books. but it doesn't change the fact that some moviegoers really deserved to be strangled in the theater. maybe they should just separate the fanatics from the totally clueless so we could all live in peace.

but then you had start with the seperating earlier .... i mean even the people who haven“t read the book (yet) know that the next movie is the last one *sigh* and I don“t know anybody who will just watch the 3rd movie if they haven“t seen part 1 & 2.

Also, who is saving from who ? When I watched TTT I was there with my best Friend who hasn“t read the Books but he is very interested in the whole Lord of the Rings Movie "thing"
Behind us were people who were very into the Books and the whole Time they were complaining about things which were wrong. (the nose of the elf is to big, the horseses, the clothes etc ).
When we left the Theater my friend and I talked about the Movie and he said, that the Movie was great but that he hated the People who sat behind us. He said he wants to enjoy the Movie not the Book.

Tįri Celebrindal
January 16th,2003, 09:59 AM
yes, it is tiring to listen to people who insist that peter jackson be faithful to the book in every single way. i guess that's a good thing on bringing a non-book person with you: they do concentrate on the movie, and take it as the movie without endlessly comparing it to the book. i think that's why so many non-book people are so completely enthralled with the movie.

Lessa
January 16th,2003, 05:37 PM
I like to take each on it's own merits. You have to make allowances for the transference from book too screen. There is no way that every single detail can be incorporated into the film. It just wouldn't work. It would be far to stilted.

Lessa

Lissuin
February 7th,2003, 04:07 AM
I hated at the midnight premeir a bunch of dumb high schoolers were in front of me and they wouldn't shut up!! 10 min. into the movie I leaned forward and said, "Would you please shut up, You are a making fools out of yourselves and if you don't shut up I will NOT be happy."

Obviously they took heed and shut up, i think they fell asleep. oh well, i was just happy they shut up.

annoying....verymad

Tįri Celebrindal
February 7th,2003, 08:37 AM
i guess i'm very lucky in my first viewing of TTT. i saw it in this theater with really expensive tickets that it's almost ridiculous, but it's so worth it:thumbs: . i think all those who bought were real fans...the air in the theater was humming with excitement and when the light went off everyone was applauding :hooray: and then suddenly there was this hush when the main title appeared. they groaned, laughed, and were silent at all the right moments! it was incredible. but of course the next times i watched ttt the audience weren't as appreciative anymore. pfbbt

Winyaél Greenleaf
February 16th,2003, 10:03 AM
That's nice. While the audience wasn't annoying, they were watching the show like wooden dummies...

Tįri Celebrindal
February 16th,2003, 03:46 PM
yeah...a lot of them doesn't understand half of what's going on...lol

Elvenwanderer
February 17th,2003, 02:10 PM
After I saw it for the 3rd time, I was in the bathroom and i heard 3 ignoramus's -I mean- women walk in, saying:

1: "Did you get the point of the movie?? Coz I didn't"

2: "No, neither did I, never saw the first movie, what's it called, the Companions of the Necklace or something?????"

3: "Me either, I totally didn't understand why that "thing" (meaning Gollum) had a split personality like that!!"

1: "I think the first movie was called something like "The Fellowship of the Necklace", so then, why was that short thing with big feet carry a ring?"

3: "Maybe we should see the first one."

Anybody else want to verymad(blow up)?!?!?

Tįri Celebrindal
February 17th,2003, 10:30 PM
lol lol lol
Maybe we should see "The Fellowship of the Necklace" also...

Elvenwanderer
February 17th,2003, 10:33 PM
musta been good!!
**big rush to see "The Fellowship of The Necklace" "IN THEATERS TODAY!!!"
lollollollol

Bonos-Girl
February 19th,2003, 02:08 PM
hehe sounds brilliant film to me....whats all the fuss about :huh: roflmao

Shieldmaide of Rohan
March 2nd,2003, 05:38 PM
Some people, eh?
Its kinda like one critic said (about FOTR), you know what, if you dont like this, you dont like movies. Hear Hear!

Whynni
March 3rd,2003, 12:47 PM
Ķt's very annoying if people are talking through the movie or are laughing all the time. I've also heard people laugh during the sad pityful Gollum scene when he's holding a debate with himself. That really drives me mad!

I prefer going to noon showings in Amsterdam, because it's usually very quiet there on that time of the day. Sometimes there are only 12 people. :)

Lessa
March 4th,2003, 08:53 AM
That's how I watched TTT. It started at 11:50am and had the added bonus of only being £2.50 there were about half a dozen of us and we were all to engrossed to amke any noise. The only reason I went so early is that I had to collect the girls from school at 3:20pm. As it was they had started to walk to their grandmas. They were not pleased I got told off by the 11 yr old. :)

Lessa

Samwise2
March 4th,2003, 08:56 AM
I went to the movie about 1 week ago , got my normal seat then this man sat down next to me and all he did was sniffle and snort the only reason i couldn't move was it was full

Winyaél Greenleaf
March 4th,2003, 02:03 PM
I don't think the above scenarios are that annoying yet. I think I've seen someone post something like this before. he was watching TTT I think, and then there's this grp of girls from Orlando Bloom's official fanclub, and they squealed each time legolas came on screen, which totally infuriated some pple, who demanded a refund. Muahaha! lol