Frodo

[Galadriel14]

WARNIG EXTREME SPOILERS
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Frodo dies in the end and I'm very, very sad!!!!! mecry mecry :angel:
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[Mathew6]

gee i ddint know that i mean he woulda died anyway maybe they have him die sooner but knew he died anyway in the grey havens sooner or later

[Galadriel14]

The stone that Galadriel gave to him lose his bright and he dies... mecry mecry mecry
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[Mathew6]

aww where u see that im pretty sur eit aint true?

[Galadriel14]

It's a page or two before the end. u can check it. mecry

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[Illuvatar]

This thread does not belong in Technical help.

I will move this to The ROTK Forum.

Illu

[Tar-Ancalimë]

before the end of what? huh? dies in the movie? the book? im confoosid.

[Narsil's weilder]

Sad but he saves Middle Earth! In the trailer for TTT Galadriel says on the lines of: 'The quest will claim his life'.

[Sindarin]

Well, they did say the ending of ROTK "would make us weep."

After the departure of Aragorn and such...Poor Frodo.

[Lynx]

Are you sure he dies because I've read that he gets in a boat with Elrond, Gandalf, Galadrial and some other people and they sail across the sea because the elves are leaving or something of the sort.

"Then Frodo kissed Merry and Pippin, and the last of all Sam, and went aboard; and the sails were drawn up and the wind blew, and slowly the ship slipped away down the long grey firth; and the light of the glass of Galadriel that Frodo bore glimmered and was lost."

Are they going to kill him off in the movie or something of the sort?

Lynx

[Tar-Ancalimë]

yeah thats what happens in the books.

they cant make him die in the movie!!! hes got to go to valinor!!! *panics*

[Lynx]

yes, that would just be wrong if they killed him off.

[A! Elbereth]

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OMG!!!!! This is terrible! This cannot happen!!!!! When I read that my heart dropped to my stomach!!! Oh please let it be a lie!!! THIS CANNOT HAPPEN!!!! IT WILL RUIN EVERYTHIN IVE DREAMED OF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

*begins to weep* mecry mecry

I cannot calm down!!! This will not do!!! This is scaring me!!! More anxiety!!!!!! AHHHHHHH! *freaks out and runs arond the room screaming*

I do not like the sound of this one bit! WHERE DID YOU HEAR THIS!!!!!!! I MUST KNOW NOW!

[Tar-Ancalimë]

ditto a! e

[A! Elbereth]

I'm so upset I am crying!!!!!!!! mecry This is the most awful thing I have heard in a v. long time!!! I can't express my feelings in words!!!... I had so much hope.... its been torn in pieces! please can't anyone reassure me?

BTW- if you didn't already know, I am known by some as a permanent emotional wreck mecry

[Tar-Ancalimë]

aw youre all right a! e... take a deep breath... and eat some chocalate... and watch FotR again.

*A! Elbereth calms down because she knows there is no confirmation of this*

[A! Elbereth]

Yes your right..... but I'm frightfully worried.. I shouldn't freak until Galadriel14 would please recite where her information was found?

[Tar-Ancalimë]

yes i think we'd all like to know that.

[Catz]

Guys........CALM DOWN........now....Galadriel14......you said a "page or two before the end"
What are you talking about?
the books?
the movie???
I think you need to explain....
and for my 10 cents worth.......no guys i dont think theyre gonna kill off Frodo...im inclined to think this is a wind up...so just chiiiiilllll, K?:cool: :thumbs: :grin:
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[Lynx]

haha. I figured as much, but there's no hurt in making sure when someone says different.

Lynx

[Galadriel14]

I am sure that he dies, unfurtunatly........... mecry mecry mecry mecry mecry mecry mecry mecry mecry mecry mecry mecry

[Catz]

its a bit pointless saying that Galadriel14 if you dont tell us where you heard it, and what provenance the rumour has.......
so where did you see this? on the net? did you read it? what?
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[TheRingBearer]

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[Galadriel14]

All the suffering of it was in vain. And he didn't save Midle-Earth, he wanted to be with the ring. In fact Gollum save Midle-Earth. If he didn't fall down into the fire of mount doom, everything would be ruined. The end of the movie should be very, very sad.
mecry mecry mecry

[Galadriel14]

I read it on page 335, but I'm portuguese and I have the portuguese version, I don't know if the pages are the same

[Catz]

of what Galadriel? the book The Lord of the Rings?
if so that s OK.....i dont know what your translation says but rest assured that in the original English version Frodo does NOT die.....he and Bilbo sail to Valinor with Gandalf, Galadriel and Elrond........
and yeah Frodo does fall to temptation at the last, but thats one of the best parts of the ending...that Gollum, in spite of being ruined, still saves ME
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[Galadriel14]

Of course, but I don't know if they kill in the film. I hope not! :mmmm:

[Galadriel14]

Well, in my version, the light of galadriel loses his bright and he beggins to see ''heaven'' :angel: . I think this means that he's dying. :huh:

[Catz]

ok....well part of the reason for the confusion is that this is the Movie forum.......so everyone thought you were talking about the movie....this thread should really be in the Books forum ok? so ill arrange to have it moved there...
and no....i dont think theyll kill off the main character in the movie after three years.....people would put out contracts on them lol
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[Galadriel14]

But the final would be more exciting if he dies. when I wrote that he was going to die in the end, I was thinking about the movie not in the book. They have to follow the film by the books. :read:

[Catz]

ummm no they dont.....and a lot of folk would argue that......i think the ringbearer being unable to stay in the place he gave everything up to save is a great ending....
and yeah tho it relates to the movie, you are talking about the book here
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[TheRingBearer]

As long as they show what actually happens at Mount Doom then I'll be half happy.

[Galadriel14]

I also heard some rumors that he is really going to die. I'ts true that it would make a great ending but is extremely unfear. For all who love Frodo like me, don't be sad! Be happy! It's not the end of the world! :thumbs:

[Undomiel]

that thing in the trailer that Galadriel says about the quest claiming his life-i dont think it's a prediction, it's her opinion. either that or it's meant to be metaphorical in that he wont get his old life back.
i'm sure this wont happen, spesh seeing as there was a spoiler that Ian Holm sed about him and Frodo sailing away.

[Galadriel14]

Well, her mirror can see the future... :huh:

[A! Elbereth]

Galadriel, if the book you are reading has Frodo die... then it is not the book, it is a faulty copy... because that is not how the story ends. You scared me so bad... oh you frightened me beyond measurement... does this mean that it was all just a misunderstanding?

[TheRingBearer]

Yeah, don't do that. You nearly gave me a heart attack lol

[Tar-Ancalimë]

yeah. thats not too nice.

but next time at least post it in the movie section or something. cause either you cant read or your books wrong. frodo goes to valinor and there he probably eventually dies.

and im just repeating everything everyone else said, huh? anyway i understand you might have thought that and thats cool but let us disabuse you of the notion now...

[Catz]

ok come on you lot.....give the girl a break...shes not a native English speaker and im sure shes doing her best here....Galadriel, please excuse everyone, but you REALLY worried a lot of people here, ok?lol roflmao lol
But were all cleared up now....but it does bring to mind an interesting issue...that of translations and whether or not they are anything like the originals....but thats not this thread ;)
Galadriel, heve you read the English version of the book? that might be interesting if you could manage it...comparing the two
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[Tar-Ancalimë]

Oh yes Galadriel I do apologize if I offended you. I didn't mean too. Really.

Yes and you seem to be proficient in English. I would definately read the English version if I were you. I read it in French and they seemed to change a lot.

[Lynx]

well now that we got that cleared up, I can rest easy. Galadriel, you had me worried there for a while but its all okay. :-)

Lynx

[Galadriel14]

Hey! I speak very well English! But, well this is just what I think, you can think whatever you want. I think he's gonna dye and that's it! And my book, it's the original. :p

[Galadriel14]

And you didn't offend me AT ALL! I don't know if the story is the same but I really hope that he keeps alive!!!!!!!!!!! I'm BIG fan of Frodo!!!! ;) lol ;) lol ;) lol ;) lol

[TheRingBearer]

That's ok Galadriel I don't mind cause I know he doesn't die!! If PJ does kill him in the ROTK film then I will officially apologise to you lol

[Galadriel14]

But, in your version he loses his finger doesn't he? :thumbs:

[Tar-Ancalimë]

um yes actually I said your English was good. Sorry if it didn't come across that way. i also think you should read the english book.

Yes he loses his finger. gollum bites it off. and im sure frodo isnt immortal, that he does die in valinor. but i hope they don't show that in the movie.

I'm glad to know I didn't offend you. It's just that you had us all panicking. :)

[Galadriel14]

Dont' worry! When I read that he was going to die I almost have a heart attack!!! I couldn't sleep the night after!! I was shocked!!!!! :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o

[TheRingBearer]

Yeah, Gollum bites it off and then stumbles and falls into the cracks of doom.

[A! Elbereth]

But I'm curious... in which chapter does it say he dies???

[Lynx]

well if I remember correctly but then I don't know if I do, doesn't he almost die at some point but doesn't really die or sam ends up saving him or something of the sort?

I don't remember exactly. But hey, i'm rereading so its all good.

[Firith Evenstar]

....the only way he dies in the book is metaphorically. lol he doen't die physically. :rolleyes:

that does raise an interesting question..i think i'll post about it now...

[Lynx]

okay. thanks for clearing that up. :)

[Dernhelm]

Originally posted by Firith Evenstar
....the only way he dies in the book is metaphorically. lol he doen't die physically. :rolleyes:

that does raise an interesting question..i think i'll post about it now...

I don't even necessarily agree that he dies metaphorically in the book either. To me, what is clear is that Frodo arrives at a place where he received healing both in mind and body (minus the missing finger, of course).

[TheRingBearer]

Yeah, he just has 'died' in the Shire. He cannot be happy and live their anymore so he goes to the Havens. Such a shame considering he fought to save it :(

[Elrenia]

Originally posted by Tar-Ancalimë
um yes actually I said your English was good. Sorry if it didn't come across that way. i also think you should read the english book.
I'm glad to know I didn't offend you. It's just that you had us all panicking. :)

Actually, I have read both version French and English and don't worry, Frodo does not die at the end since he leaves Middle-Earth with Elrond, Galadriel, Celeborn, etc...:)

And for interpretation, I totally agree with you RingBearer...:grin:

[Elrenia]

Originally posted by Lynx
well if I remember correctly but then I don't know if I do, doesn't he almost die at some point but doesn't really die or sam ends up saving him or something of the sort?

I don't remember exactly. But hey, i'm rereading so its all good.

You are right...there's a moment where Sam becomes the Second Ring Bearer because he truly believes that Frodo is dead but he is only badly wounded...:grin:

[A! Elbereth]

Yes... if that is what you were talking about Galadriel 14... I do believe the book ends with Frodo still alive sailing from The Grey Havens... I mean, Frodo could not have been dead if he went aboard a ship. lol ;)

[Galadriel14]

I don't know. lets wait untill the movie! :)

[Frodo's Love]

If Frodo would die at the end of ROTK, the movie-makers would destroy the whole world of Tolkien! The light that is fading away at the end of the book is, as far as I concern, what Sam sees while watching the ship pass... But hope isn't lost ...and I also think that Frodo will not die at the end of ROTK.

[A! Elbereth]

I'm still confused at this misunderstanding... would you quote the part in the book that says this?

[Mirkgirl]

A!E it is just a rumor, caused by a litle misunderstanding in the Portugese translation of LotR (or as much I understood). This is where the "LotR translations" thread in here started as well.

So anyway this is book forum and the last posts were all over the movies. Talk topic (books) or I'm closing it.